“CANADIAN BIRTHER” STORY GAINING TRACTION …
U.S. Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky is getting desperate …
Wait … hold up: Rand Paul is still running for president?
Yes … yes he is. We’ve already written his political obituary, yet Paul soldiers on … a shadow of his former self. A ghost of his once fiercely-held convictions.
How is he doing? Not well, if you believe the numbers. Paul is currently polling at 3.5 percent among GOP voters nationally (sixth place), three percent in Iowa (sixth place), four percent in New Hampshire (seventh place) and 3.5 percent in South Carolina (sixth place) – according to the latest aggregate data from Real Clear Politics.
He’s simply not a part of the national conversation … whether it be the debate over the anti-establishment GOP front-runners or the undercard battle between the “Republican” establishment elites.
Desperate to regain some relevancy (and sow some doubt in voters’ minds regarding one of his top rivals), Paul is raising an issue involving one of the GOP frontrunners – U.S. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas.
The issue? Cruz’s eligibility to be president.
“The thing is, all experts agree that he was naturally born in Canada,” Paul said on CBS’s Face the Nation. “And so the question is – can you be naturally born in Canada and also be considered to be a natural born citizen? It hasn’t been decided.”
Hmmmm …
In August of 2013, Cruz released his Canadian birth certificate – indicating he was born on December 22, 1970 in Calgary, Alberta to a Cuban-born father and an American-born mother.
“Senator Cruz became a U.S. citizen at birth, and he never had to go through a naturalization process after birth to become a U.S. citizen,” a spokesman told The Dallas Morning News at the time.
According to Canada, though, Cruz also enjoys Canadian citizenship.
Confusing, right? Indeed …
“(The framers) used this unusual language in the Constitution of ‘natural born’, and so I think it will be brought up,” Paul continued. “Congressman (Alan) Grayson from Florida is already saying he’s going to challenge it in court. I think the Democrats will challenge it at the very least and I think it will have to be decided by the Supreme Court.”
On that last count, he may be right. According to Paul, this “extraordinary” situation ought to compel GOP voters “to decide in their own minds” whether this eligibility question matters in picking their presidential nominee.
Cruz has frequently referred to his American citizenship – and by extension his eligibility to be elected president – as “clear and settled.” In fact that’s the quote he gave CNN in responding to Paul’s statements.
But is it really “clear and settled?”
The U.S. Constitution states that “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”
Does that definition include Cruz? Possibly. But if it does … would a judge have to go through the sort of “activist” maneuverings Cruz claims to loathe in order to reach the conclusion that Cruz is eligible?
“(According to) the kind of judge Cruz says he admires and would appoint to the supreme court – an ‘originalist’ who claims to be bound by the historical meaning of the constitution’s terms at the time of their adoption – Cruz wouldn’t be eligible because the legal principles that prevailed in the 1780s and 90s required that someone be born on U.S. soil to be a ‘natural born’ citizen,” Harvard law school professor and Constitutional scholar Laurence Tribe wrote in an email published by The (U.K.) Guardian.
“Even having two US parents wouldn’t suffice for a genuine originalist,” Tribe added. “And having just an American mother, as Cruz did, would clearly have been insufficient at a time that made patrilineal descent decisive.”
However, Tribe wrote that according to a “living constitutionalist” – a judge who believes “that the constitution’s meaning evolves with the needs of the time” – Cruz would be eligible to run.
“There is no single, settled answer,” Tribe concluded. “And our supreme court has never addressed the issue.”
Cruz trails GOP frontrunner Donald Trump by fifteen points nationally, but enjoys a narrow (three-point) lead over Trump in Iowa and is second place in early-voting South Carolina.
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Okay – now I get why Democrats were tired of the whole “birther” thing…
Once again, the GOP starts something that ends up biting themselves in the ass.
Uhmmm, yeah – it actually was used against “Maverick” McCain in 2000 before Obama was even in the Senate
Think they used worse stuff on John in 2000 – thinking black baby.
All kinds of stuff, “Manchurian Candidate” based on his POW time, twisted his support on Veterans issues…
All that said, McCain was a TERRIBLE candidate, didn’t know when to shut up, lousy positions….
Every clock is right twice a day.
I bought a fake Rolex years ago and the hour hand fell off, that watch is right 24 times a day. Then there’s this one, it could only be right once a day: https://www.botta-design.de/en/einzeigeruhr-uno-24.html
If you look close you can see the name Rolen. Got one too.
Back to your room.
lol…I salute you a having a sense humor in the darkest of times. :)
Says you…………….
I maintain that if McCain had been prez instead of Bush#2, 9/11 might not have even happened but if it did we would’ve kept our eye on Afghanistan and not had one drop of blood spilled in Iraq and that whole place would not be as fucked up as it is now.
Nah Sparkie – 9/11 was happening no matter what.
“Osama bin Feeding the Fishies” began planning the attacks in 1996. The CIA was aware that they were planning some kind of attack using aircraft in ’98. By January of 99, the “fatwah” had been issued and the agents were moved to the US beginning that spring. Mohamed Atta was here in June of 2000 – didn’t make any difference who was in the White House.
And he actually picked Sarah Palin as his running mate. Talk about a lousy position!
I realy think Sarah would be stellar in ANY position!
YOU BETCHA!
That was the work of Lee Atwater.
By people in his own party first.
Just look how getting in bed with the Moral Majority has finally paid off.
Nah, this has gone on for time immemorial: http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/02/citizenship-status-of-our-44-presidents.html
Yup. Like I said….repeat.
The other “fly in this ointment (is from what I understand/heard..) is that Cruz only gave up his dual citizenship status a few years ago. That in itself is reason to be suspicious of his motives.
if he has such a hard-on for being a expert on constitutional law why did he not renounce it when he turned 21 instead of waiting till he is a middle aged man????
Looks to me like he wanted the best of two worlds. If he still had dual citizenship when he became a US Senator the fucker should have never been allowed to be sworn in as a United States Senator. I seriously doubt Cruz’ loyalty to this country.
And as you know, McCain was born in the Canal Zone (a US territory at the time where all males 18 years & older were subject to the draft) in a United States military hospital and both his parents were US citizens . I never had a problem with that whatsoever but I do remember it being made an issue (although short lived)
The fact is Cruz was born in Canada (not on a US military base) with only one parent being a US citizen.
Since many of Cruz’ and that lying SOB Trump’s followers are making a case to not allow some wetback mother drop a kid inside of the United States border to be a US citizen the minute they are birthed they need to quit their hypocritical BS and apply the same standard to Cruz.
But you and I both know they won’t
That and it looks like that old saying what goes around comes around (and it couldn’t happen to a more deserving crowd I might add…)
No real reason to up until then.
When the GOP gets around to selecting a nominee, that poor sap will be so damaged by attacks from his fellow candidates that he’ll stand no chance come election day. Trump and FitsNews are some of the best things to happen to the Democrats since Bob Dole running in 1996, only WAY better.
Hillary will be indicted.Republicans will win 45-48 states.Thank you Barack Obama.
If your going to just pull stuff out of your ass, then why not say republicans will win all 53 States and Russia.
Hold on buddy.Obama said he has visited 57 states.
It was at a campaign appearance in Beaverton, Oregon, on May 9, 2008. Obama said, “It is just wonderful to be back in Oregon. And over the last 15 months we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states; I think one left to go.”
Shall we go into the recorded brainfarts of GWB, Palin, Bachmann, Cruz, Jeb,Trump, Carly, Walker, Perry, CARSON, pogo, flip, Grandatango, Terry L Ward,….shall I go on?
Obama didn’t have a brain fart.He is an unpatriotic,American hating traitor that was probably just reciting what Rev.Wright told him.
Obama owning your ass for 8 years is really starting to take it’s toll on you.
Don’t worry, son, only one more year…then you can think of dumb shit to say about Madam President Clinton or President Sanders. All thanks to silly, out of touch goofballs like you and FitsNews. I hope Will is paying you something out of the checks he gets from the DNC and Trump.
Hillary going to prison.
President Sanders???? LMAO!!!!!
Sanders is on record endorsing plenty of dumb ideas. He wrote in the 1970s that the country was close to experiencing a nuclear apocalypse or “death by poison gas.” He claimed cervical cancer was caused by women not experiencing enough orgasms.
Bernie has been around communists a long time.
He used to work at the communist-led United Packinghouse Workers Union.
In the 1970s he belonged to the anti-war Liberty Union Party (LUP). Under the LUP banner, he ran unsuccessfully for the U.S. Senate and governor of Vermont. His platform called for all U.S. banks to be nationalized, public ownership of all utilities, and the establishment of a worker-controlled federal government.
Not surprisingly, Sanders is a strong supporter of the Apollo Alliance, a coalition of environmentalists and big labor that wants the government to take over America’s energy industry. The group is a hotbed of subversives and other radicals. Former green jobs czar Van Jones who described himself as a “communist” and “rowdy black nationalist” was a member of its board.
Trump is a good buddy with the Clintons. Voted for them and gave them millions.
If Trump gets the nomination, It’ll be fun watching all those ads featuring him hanging out with the Clintons and praising them in the press. They’ll simply use Trump’s own words and actions against him. Just add that to all the racist, sexist and bigoted stuff he’s said recently and, presto, he’s DOA. After reading a few more artcles like the one linked below, his own kids will make him drop out. He’s already destroyed the ‘Trump’ brand with those making $100,000 and up. If he keeps it up, he’ll leave a worthless brand for his kids to manage. Money talks and Trump will listen…
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-brand-business-213515?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link
Think Hillary will have television in prison on election night?
It would be nice for her to watch Sanders annihilate Trump in real time.
Just like Obama did to McCain in 2008. What the hell ever happened to Sarah Palin?
Oh yeah, trying to figure out the Daddy to her second bastard grandkid. Typical white trash Tea Party republican…
Sanders won’t get 35% after his record is exposed as a communist.Bye Bye Democrat Party.
As far as ‘white trash’ I just have this to say-STINKY!!!!
Michelle Obama says Barack has Body Odor – YouTube
? 4:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqq6EwcgyWk
Oct 5, 2008 – Uploaded by artifishalMichelle Obama tells Glamour magazine that Barack Obama is kicked out of bed because he stinks!
You read Glamour magazine?
Anyways, Bernie is already defeating Trump at the national level.
All that’s left is for you suckers to give the nomination to Trump and sit back a grab the popcorn. How about your white supremacist buddies making robo calls for Trump in Iowa? How about Trump openingly admiring Kim Jong Un’s abilities as a murderous dictator this past weekend? You guys even disrupted ypur own Trump rally to accost and harass an woman who simply stood up quietly? Can’t wait to see what incredibly stupid shit Trump and his followers will do this week. It getting hard to keep up, but I kniw you won’t disappoint!
If the GOP can’t win this one after Obama handed it to them on a silver platter……………………
I don’t hate America, I love America. What I don’t like is Flipmerica, the version of America in your brain that doesn’t exist anywhere else.
Hasn’t SNL bought all the rights to all those mis-speaks?
Hillary won’t face shit. I’ll hand her the White House so losers like you can cry for another 8 years.
Hillary will not likely see any day in court and if by some remote chance she does she will be pardoned by Obama before the gavel falls to start the trial of the day.
Both should be behind bars convicted of their many crimes, but so long as the criminal is in the White House and another bunch of retards believe he is legitimate with one US citizen parent, then BS on dumbass Hillary will not matter one iota.
Before 2006 even idiots knew that to be Natural born of the US required that you were born of two US parents. We can debate the where all day long and someone will have an opinion on both sides, but this part was clear.
There were eight attempts in Congress to change the Art 2 Sect 1 Cl 5 requirement and they all failed in the months leading up to the DNC announcing Obama.
If the segment of the Tea Party get their way with Cruz and he is nominated the liberal media and demoncrats will launch at Cruz and the GOP. It’s one thing for Obama to being POTUS but the liberals will not sit still to allow any opponent the same…. oh look was that a hawk….
This will be the new circus in town…
Got any Canadian chick jokes?
I took a quick look and discovered that there must not be any funny Canadian women. But here is a close one I saved that I really like
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(Tazmaniac – 8.31.15)
First joke I ever told when I was 5: When I started kindergarten, my Mother showed me the way to my Canadian Immigrant Grandmother’s house 2 blocks away rather than have me walk the 3 miles out of town to our farm. (I know, this was the mid 60s
before all the crazy stuff.) So anyhow, the first day I made it to Grandmother’s where she had a glass of milk and some graham crackers waiting on me. As I ate she asked me if I learned anything today. I replied that we learned the American alphabet and we started learning the Canadian alphabet but
ran out of time. She looked sideways at me and asked me to demonstrate the
Canadian alphabet I did learn. I told her “A, eh, B, eh, C, eh” about “D” she smacked me out of my chair and told me “your a wicked
boy today, eh!”.
Trump got the whole ball rolling, Rand merely glommed on.
You have to hand it to Trump, who ever he goes after gets hammered pretty badly.
If Killiary wins the nomination(I didn’t used to doubt this, but now with the emails telling her aides to break the law, we’ll see), watching her and Trump go at it is going to fun as hell.
Trump will take Cruz on as vp and just wants this out of the way before the ‘general’.
I can see that. Trump likes Cruz, but Cruz has been climbing in the polls for some time, so there’s that too. I think it serves Trump more than one way when he put it out there.
Good points.
He better not. We’ll exhume McCarthy to do the smell test on Ted Cruz’s loyalty.
Won’t be a problem.Unlike Muhammed Obama, Cruz has is not an appeaser of ISIS and our foreign enemies.
…and Unlike Obama, all other republicans refuse to work with him.
12th amendment (last sentence) kills that idea.
Glommed. Glommed?
Heh heh, that word sounds weird by itself.
Cruz’s citizenship problems just got a bit worse with the revelation that both his father and his mother were eligible to vote in Canada as citizens at the time of Ted’s birth. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/ted-cruz-mother-canadian-voter-list
Now, that may not affect his mother’s alleged American citizenship, but it could make her a perpetrator of “voter fraud”. How embarrassing for a Republican!
Meet the Obama’s!!!
While the American people had been constantly reassured Obama never knew that his unfortunate aunt was here illegally and that the two were not close, Ms. Onyango did of course attend both of her nephew’s inaugurations for the Senate in 2005 and then as President in 2009.
Ms. Onyango soon turned up represented by an expensive Cleveland immigration attorney when she had frequently chorused she was “broke.” Then, the very same judge who had ordered her deported from US soil in 2004 mysteriously ordered that she could stay in America. What the hell’s wrong with this picture?
And as some astute reporter discovered, Obama’s aunt also made illegal campaign contributions to his Presidential campaign; illegal aliens are strictly forbidden from contributing money to US politicians.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-relentless-conservative/the-continuing-saga-of-ob_b_990291.html
Meet the Obama’s!!!!
Can this man–our President–not spare some cash for a destitute aunt? What kind of person ignores their own flesh and blood?
Obama’s uncle is an even worse story of an illegal taking advantage of the American system with even worse results.
“Drunken Uncle Omar,” according to a statement by Rep. Steve King (R-IA), has twice been ordered deported and thrice arrested in our country all while being here illegally. He is being held on an ICE arrest warrant. How do these people remain in our country?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-relentless-conservative/the-continuing-saga-of-ob_b_990291.html
We are discussing Ted Cruz. The son of a former Communist and Castro supporter who came to the US illegally and whose son was born and raised in Canada.
Obama is not running for anything you dumb ass.
I don’t allow dangerous,American hating subversives from the Democrat Socialist Party to claim the narrative.
You POS’s have tried to destroy this country-NO more.
I am a Trump supporter you fool. Rafael Cruz is not a natural born US Citizen. He was born in Canada. But even if he was, we don’t need to put the son of an illegal immigrant in charge of this country. We need a real American. People who were born here. People who have roots here. People whose parents are from here.
You are to stupid to be a Trump supporter.
Trump does not need dumb rednecks like you to win. Go support Cruz.
He needs SMART rednecks like me to win-he doesn’t need hispanics or blacks.
Cruz is hispanic you dumb ass. Why do you think he does not use his real name. So he can fool dumb people like you.
“Too” stupid. Looks like you’re dumb enough.
Meet Hillary-in prison!!!!
“The agents are investigating the possible intersection of Clinton Foundation donations, the dispensation of State Department contracts and whether regular processes were followed,” one source said.
The development follows press reports over the past year about the potential overlap of State Department and Clinton Foundation work, and questions over whether donors benefited from their contacts inside the administration.
The Clinton Foundation is a public charity, known as a 501(c)(3). It had grants and contributions in excess of $144 million in 2013, the most current available data.
Inside the FBI, pressure is growing to pursue the case.
One intelligence source told Fox News that FBI agents would be “screaming” if a prosecution is not pursued because “many previous public corruption cases have been made and successfully prosecuted with much less evidence than what is emerging in this investigation.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/11/fbis-clinton-probe-expands-to-public-corruption-track.html?intcmp=hpbt1
What a Bizzaro World attack on women: An American woman losing her right to pass on the right of citizenship to her natural born son, simply for the “crime” of giving birth in Canada. Come on people, use some common sense–it is clear and settled that Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen!
It has nothing to do with the right of citizenship. No one is saying he is not a citizen. He just is not eligible to be President of the US. You have to be born in this country, or at a US embassy or US Military base.
Oh, is that all? Shit he just has to get a fake birth certificate like Obama.
Well according to you Obama was not eligible to be President, because he was not born in this country. Even though his mother is a US Citizen, and even though he can produce a birth certificate saying he was born here. So now that you are supporting Cruz, how was not born here, its obvious you were just saying that because you are a dumb red neck racist. i.e.a typical Republican.
Get off Medicaid. Get a Job. Stop being a taker.
He’s too busy posting as “flip” to even sign up for another Disqus account, let alone get a job.
Damn fetus eater.You don’t know my job by now is defeating EVIL frauds like you in the arena of ideas?
Must be horrible waiting for Euwe Max to post something so you can respond with your latest username and avatar. https://disqus.com/by/disqus_cBEw4pOrlg/?utm_source=reply&utm_medium=email&utm_content=avatar
Obama’s mother was a communist whore that fucked a trailer trash communist bro that gave YOU a radical Islamist POS as pResident.
Cruz’s father was a Cuban Communist. He supported Castro in the Revolution. Then he entered this country illegally. Does that make Cruz’s mother a Communist whore.
Just the framing of the article “canadian birther gaining traction” is laughable for the simple fact that he was factually birthed in Canada so one would naturally assume that it would gain traction since it directly contradicts the Constitution’s Natural Born Clause.
Same goes with the framing of the article “Rand Paul’s desperation meet Ted CRuz’s eligibility” when in fact we know Rand is a Constitutionlist who take the Constitution seriously and probably understands it better than the supreme court judges. A better framing of the article would have been
Rand Paul Supreme Understanding of the Constitution meets Ted Cruz’s in ineligibility.
I guess its all about perspective. I am sure “Conservatives” would be screaming “Natural Born Clause” if Raphael’s mom instead married the ayatollah of Iran and then conceived Raphael in Iran only to bring him back here to be President.
Fact is, the Raphael from Canada is probably worse.
Raphael is the Italian Renaissance artist. Don’t confuse with Rafael Cruz, the Canadian born son of a former Cuban communist who wants to be President.
Barf! Another piece of trash from FITS Shit!
Paul has flopped as a presidential candidate. My does he still bother to pretend?
coulda, woulda, shoulda sought a Libertarian nomination
That would be the (bland) Rand that is sitting out the Charleston Debates cause he’s only eligible for the kiddie table at one and not party line enough for the Saturday debate?
just askin
It’s not Cruz. it’s his father. Look into the father. He was a Communist.