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Clemson Drugged Out …

THREE TIGERS SUSPENDED FOR NATIONAL SEMI-FINAL … Three members of the top-ranked Clemson University football team will miss this week’s national semi-final game against the University of Oklahoma due to failed drug tests. The players are: Backup placekicker Ammon Lakip (a redshirt senior), starting wide receiver Deon Cain (a freshman)…

THREE TIGERS SUSPENDED FOR NATIONAL SEMI-FINAL …

Three members of the top-ranked Clemson University football team will miss this week’s national semi-final game against the University of Oklahoma due to failed drug tests.

The players are: Backup placekicker Ammon Lakip (a redshirt senior), starting wide receiver Deon Cain (a freshman) and backup tight end Jay Jay McCullough (a junior).  Of the three, Cain is the only player who has contributed to the team in a meaningful way this season – hauling in thirty-four passes for 582 yards and five touchdowns.

A native of Tampa, Florida, Cain was held out of Clemson’s big win over the University of Miami earlier this year for “attitude” issues, according to head coach Dabo Swinney.

In fact just hours before news of his suspension broke, he told reporters that his benching had been a “teachable moment.”

Oops …

Lakip, busted for drugs prior to the start of the season, lost his job to sophomore Greg Huegel – and was called upon to kick just one field goal and seven extra points this year.  Meanwhile McCullough hasn’t caught a pass all season.

Oklahoma (11-1, 8-1 Big XII) is a 3.5 point favorite over the Tigers (13-0, 8-0 ACC) in a rematch of last year’s Russell Athletic Bowl.  Clemson won that game 40-6 without starting quarterback Deshaun Watson, who finished in third place in this year’s Heisman Trophy vote.

Even without Cain, Watson will have receivers Artavis Scott (84 catches, 805 yards, five touchdowns) and Charone Peake (40 catches, 563 yards, five touchdowns) in the lineup – as well as tight end Jordan Leggett (34 catches, 442 yards, seven touchdowns).

Clemson will also continue to rely on the bruising running game of sophomore Wayne Gallman, who ran for 1,332 yards this season.

Bottom line?  As long as Watson and Gallman are healthy and Clemson’s defense isn’t short-handed, expect the Tigers to manage just fine against the Sooners without these three players.

The winner of the Clemson-Oklahoma game will play the winner of the Alabama-Michigan State game for the national championship on January 11 at the University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale, Arizona.  All three games will be televised nationally by ESPN.

Pic: Travis Bell Photography

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124 comments

sparklecity December 30, 2015 at 10:36 am

One more reason to stop the madness that has become college and professional football (and sadly I suspect involves a lot of high school football as well)

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Daniel Boome December 30, 2015 at 10:39 am

Interesting. So, by your logic, the fact that these players failed drug tests and were sent home before the biggest game of their season is a “reason to stop the madness that has become college and professional football”? I’m confused at what your point is, other than this is your usual derangement stemming from your hatred of sports in general.

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Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 10:48 am

Maybe he just prefers a strong debating competition over sports.

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sparklecity December 30, 2015 at 11:04 pm

Naw, you’ve got me confused with your ass-wipe buddy Ted Cruz…

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sparklecity December 30, 2015 at 10:59 pm

Actually I’m a big fan of women’s volleyball (college level) and track and field. And I like shooting sports (I was on a military marksmanship team and worked my up to compete nationally and am a proud recipient of the “Govenor’s 20” tab) I still compete in Practical Shooting matches (if ammo ain’t sky high due to dumb-assed paranoid rightwing nuts are hording ammo – that is)
And yes, college and professional football has become totally out of control. Look at the shit going on around you for crying out loud, shitloads of college “bowls” featuring mediocre teams, scandal after scandal, people looking the other way because the coach is raping little boys and they don’t want to see their dynasty crumble
By your remarks it has hit a nerve because deep down you know I’m right but you won’t admit it to yourself.

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Daniel Boome December 31, 2015 at 9:26 am

Right about what exactly? You didn’t even respond to my inquiry about what this situation has to do with college athletics and them supposedly being out of control. You just brushed that part aside and went on some delusional, menacing rant that would make Grand Tango proud. I agree that the number of bowls is ridiculous (especially the ones where 5-7 and 6-6 teams are playing), but that doesn’t have anything to do with college football being out of control. It just shows how ridiculous most of the bowl season is. Also, there is no “scandal after scandal”, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about there.

To top it off, you throw out a ridiculous, broad generalization about coaches raping little boys. Where in the hell did you get that? Jerry Sandusky is in jail and he wasn’t a coach when he was committing his crimes. Regardless, his despicable acts have nothing to do with college football or even the Penn State program. The most egregious part of that situation was that the players and new coaching staff had to pay the price for that situation, even though none of them had anything to do with it, when the perpetrator and those complicit in the crime were gone or in jail.

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sparklecity December 31, 2015 at 11:49 am

“Scandal after scandal”===WTF???
Pay attention to the news dude….just about every week there’s some player getting suspended after numerous infractions on and off the field and that’s because the coaching staff/athletic department looks the other way until it gets so bad they have to suspend the kid.. And why is that??? Because they don’t want anything to cast aspersions on their football program that’s fucking what.
Contributors to IPTAY, Gamecock Club, etc. (take your pick across this great nation they are all the same….) don’t want to hear a fucking thing unless it’s a winning season and damn the way they get to a winning season.
You know fucking well that’s what it boils down to and the reason for all those ridiculous bowls is a direct manifestation of college football being out of control. They know there are clowns who are dumb enough to watch them on TV for (i.e. viewing revenue from the broadcasting company) or some trip to Bumfuck Iowa to attend the “Salad Bowl” and share the revenue that way.
In summary: College and professional football has become the equivalent to the Roman “Games” ====Plain and fucking simple……….

sparklecity December 31, 2015 at 11:52 am

And let’s not forget how a professional football team puts the squeeze on a city to give them new stadiums, facilities, etc.or they’re outta there.

Bible Thumper December 30, 2015 at 10:45 am

I am certain that the general population and general student population of all states an colleges use illegal drugs at a great proportion than 3 out of 115. If anything, this a reason to expand college sports.

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a face in the crowd December 30, 2015 at 10:51 am Reply
Bible Thumper December 30, 2015 at 10:57 am Reply
Flip December 30, 2015 at 11:05 am

mamatiger wants to make em walk home.That sounds racist to me.All the money the bro’s made that bastion of segregation and slavery and ya’ll want em to walk home?

Not even 40 acres and a mule? :)

Bible Thumper December 30, 2015 at 11:10 am

Not sure about Lakip. Some pics he looks white, besides he’s a kicker. That’s a white possition, right.

Flip December 30, 2015 at 11:13 am

Whites have to become black at the state controlled universities.Hell I saw the Black Lives Matter protest in Minneapolis over Christmas and didn’t see ONE black person! :)

Bible Thumper December 30, 2015 at 11:15 am

Kickers wear tight short pants above the knee and high on the waist. Lakip can’t be black.

Jan December 30, 2015 at 1:05 pm

Dumb ass racist comment

Flip the Racist December 30, 2015 at 2:40 pm

You can guarantee any convo I’m a part of has plenty of racism chucked in. You’re welcome! LMAO!!!

Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:42 pm

Leave Flip alone.God ordained that man as an ambassador of truth.

God December 30, 2015 at 2:43 pm

I keep forgetting to stay the hell away from the tequila. Satan talks me into doing some of the dumbest shit when I drink the stuff.

Bible Thumper December 30, 2015 at 11:21 am

The Minnesota mascot is black. He was quoted saying, “Why do I always have to be the gopher?” ;-)

Flip December 30, 2015 at 12:13 pm

Does he read the Koran?

WhiteBoy December 30, 2015 at 1:05 pm

Haha. Nothing says pasty white kids than a black lives rally.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt December 30, 2015 at 5:05 pm

Or south american.

James December 30, 2015 at 1:04 pm

And spent it while incurring debt that extends for 15 years

Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 8:01 pm

Have you looked at Ray Tanner’s checkbook lately? He’s about maxed out that credit card they gave him.

sparklecity December 30, 2015 at 10:38 pm

Sure as long as it’s not football (in it’s present out of control form).
I LOVE watching women’s volleyball (college level)!!!!!

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Flip December 30, 2015 at 11:01 am

You play with your Barbie dolls and Batmobile weirdo.Even as athletics has become a victim of political correctness in the world of liberalism, it still offers the best chance for young people of all races and socio economics to come together while building a sense of community and pride.

It is obvious you were a non athlete.I played college baseball and basketball.My guess is you washed my jock strap and are bitter over it.

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Flip Plays With Himself December 30, 2015 at 2:36 pm

Notre Dame down two starters. If they lose 9 more maybe Ohio State has a chance? Probably not.

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Rocky Verdad December 30, 2015 at 4:24 pm

You seem bitter today? The old glory days fading faster than you like, or you can’t find your jock strap to wash?

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Flip December 30, 2015 at 8:48 pm

Shit.I ain’t tied to an ugly spic raising a couple of stank ass bastards like YOU!

LIfe is good.

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sparklecity December 30, 2015 at 10:34 pm

2 sport varsity letterman 10 – 12th grade (football & track) not to mention football since 8th grade & JV and can still fit into my letter jacket (complete with REAL leather sleeves!!!) at the tender age of 62…..
YOU do know that John Elway (a REAL pussy if there ever was one…) has publically stated he will not let his kids play football don’t you?
Athletics? = the best chance for young people of all races to come together while building a sense of community & pride” =========Got a better one for ya “Skippy”…. something called the military draft!!!
But something tells me you wouldn’t know anything about that would you since you’re too busy living in the past jacking off to your college days playing baseball and basketball
Excuse me, gotta get on line to buy movie tickets for the flick “Concussion”
One more thing: BENGAZI!!!!!!
See ya around sucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ClemsonGrad December 30, 2015 at 8:17 pm

Heathwood Hall loses every game. All the players smoke weed in the locker room before the game.

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Need you $ back December 30, 2015 at 9:42 pm

Hammond does coke, must be why you went to Clemdux too huh?

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erneba December 30, 2015 at 11:35 am

These suspensions should not have any impact on the game. I wish the team good luck.

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uh oh December 30, 2015 at 11:38 am

2nd time two of them have been suspended for drugs. I guess the people asking about Garcia’s multiple chances need to question their own program as it only says these players are suspended not kicked off. At least they will only be suspended one game this year. I wonder how many chances is Doodoo going to give these addicts, and how many fans that laughed at Garcia keeping on getting back on the team will try to tell you its different here? Well they are right, Garcia never got busted for drugs. By the way I told you that coke head kicker was a druggie. I wonder if jail time will be in his future because he is on probation for the coke offense and fail a drug test is a violation. Im sure Clemson will take care of that however. Just like they did with the woman beatings by not one but 2 players, and the reckless driving and failure to stop for a blue light by the coach. Corruptions runs deep in that program, and something tells me this is just the beginning. Peace out Tater, I will just drop the mic an leave it there for you.

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jrsimps December 30, 2015 at 11:43 am

Garcia’s problems were far worse than these guys smoking some dope. Pretty sure he was busted keying cars, going to a alumni function and getting drunk, and I’m sure their were several more. These guys wernt out defacsing property. So you’re Garcia argument is fuckin stupid

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Roberto December 30, 2015 at 1:37 pm

Just dont send flowers to your mom. Look up kenny flowers to see hienous.

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mamatiger92 December 30, 2015 at 1:41 pm

Or write a personal check for cocaine. My all-time favorite.

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Speak D Truth December 30, 2015 at 2:19 pm

One has a prior DUI and Cociane charge. Both are worse than anything Garcia did.

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jrsimps December 30, 2015 at 3:23 pm

Yea because getting over 4 infraction. While at USC is standard practice for y’all. We had a 5 star running back come in the same year Sammy Watkins came in and lasted one year before he got the boot. You think Spurrier would have told lattimore if he had goten in trouble that he was off the team. But hea, y’all got bigger things to worry about like beating citadel and that shitty coach y’all just bright in. Good luck with being back to 5,6 wins being a good year.

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idcydm December 30, 2015 at 11:44 am

I do believe they are gone for the year.

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mamatiger92 December 30, 2015 at 1:10 pm

“Wide receiver Deon Cain, kicker Ammon Lakip and tight end Jay Jay McCullough
won’t play in the game, and Swinney said that the Clemson careers of
McCullough and Lakip are over.”

lemme pick up that mic for you

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the ship is sinking December 30, 2015 at 1:25 pm

“Recently, my scheduled participation in this event has been perceived incorrectly as an endorsement of certain viewpoints and has entered the political arena. I have been out of town since last Thursday and am disappointed that this has become a distraction for me, my team and many others. I have been and continue to be very open about my personal beliefs. However, I do not inject those beliefs or the work of the foundation into the political process.”

Dabo don’t give a shit about his players.He is merely a modern day plantation owner that throws his bro’s overboard when they no longer are any benefit to his agenda and fake persona-see above.

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mamatiger92 December 30, 2015 at 1:33 pm

Too bad they don’t play for Meyer, or they’d play tomorrow.

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Flip December 30, 2015 at 2:03 pm

I see you must have missed church Christmas Eve as you continue to lie.Meyer is sitting a a 1st Round NFL pick for the Fiesta Bowl.Boyd is the only player that matters on Clemson.They are 6-6 without him.Meyer could sit 10 starters and they would beat Notre Dame.

MSU December 30, 2015 at 2:41 pm

Please bitch, they’ll mop the floor with you just like we did.

mamatiger92 December 30, 2015 at 4:32 pm

Boyd?

mamatiger92 December 30, 2015 at 4:42 pm

Of course, I can understand why an Ohio State fan would remember Boyd well….

“Clemson quarterback Tajh Boyd completed 31 of his 40 passes for 5
touchdowns and 2 interceptions. Boyd threw for 378 yards. Boyd was also
the Tigers’ leading rusher, rushing for 127 yards and 1 touchdown.”

40-35

Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 1:31 pm

And just where is that quote from? You don’t reference it, and it isn’t in the story we all are here reading? Did you make it up or read it on Tigernet? Maybe put his mic back down for him. Of course Dabo could say it, but actually do it, never., He is an ass clown with no class.

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Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 1:34 pm

so tigernet? Figures. I would never go on that shit site, so wont here.

idcydm December 30, 2015 at 1:39 pm

He said it in his interview on ESPN.

Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:33 pm

You are the only cocksucker on Fits that has a clue.We racists got to hang together.

Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:36 pm

You sure do… maybe you can go hang out near a boat landing sometime.

Its contradiction in itself December 30, 2015 at 1:39 pm

Here I’ll help with that. In the same article (which isn’t an actual news outlet, but a blog site like this only with forum boards and fan pages) it also says that in fact only Ammon is done and that because he is a senior but the other players can come back.

mamatiger92 December 30, 2015 at 1:42 pm

Nope. McCullough is done.

Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 1:42 pm

time will tell. until its official he isn’t.

Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:31 pm

You truly are a dumb-ass aren’t you…

Flip December 30, 2015 at 2:05 pm

Dabo gonna have a team vote, dress up like Buckwheat and do a dance for team unity.

who dat? it be Dabo December 30, 2015 at 2:07 pm

careful, mamma gonna get ya for dat

Whats this?? December 30, 2015 at 1:48 pm

I thought you were a Clemson fan?

Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:30 pm

He is, so much that he uses my name nere.

Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:30 pm

Probably because you can’t find it without your mom helping you.

Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:29 pm

Dipshit is back.

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Oh Boy December 30, 2015 at 2:40 pm

You’re the only dipshit I see. Shame you didn’t stay gone.

And here you are December 30, 2015 at 4:39 pm

Welcome back

Speak D Truth December 30, 2015 at 2:17 pm

He also suspended Sammy Watkins and then let him come to practice, get baptized, and immediately reinstated.

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LouieBouy December 30, 2015 at 11:48 am

It’s boring in Clemson most days. What’s a dude to do to cope with it all. The 3 should have attended USC, where drugs are legal and overlooked. Maybe new USC coach will change that, but not likely to have any players left if he does.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt December 30, 2015 at 4:59 pm

Unlike SCAR…Clemson players don’t get 5 chances to straighten up (Garcia..I’m looking at you).

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Apple to pony December 30, 2015 at 5:37 pm

Garcia didn’t get arrested for drugs ever no dui and he drank OVER the age of 21. Your point is as dumb as you. Go do some more Coke with your kicker

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Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 7:58 pm

So he was over 21 that first week when cops chased him and found him hiding behind a 5-Points dumpster?

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You are full of poo December 30, 2015 at 9:39 pm

That never happened. You made that up. Link???

Manny December 30, 2015 at 1:02 pm

What is it with blacks and pot? Damn stuff is expensive and illegal.

Take a clue—buy a six pack and make do.

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Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:28 pm

So are 26″ rims and tires, but they will live in an empty apartment to make sure they have big rims on their rolling pieces of shit vehicles.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt December 30, 2015 at 5:03 pm

So are satellite dishes but rednecks will opt to let the trailer run into the ground and their kids’ ratty pants be held up with rope before they get rid of that satellite.

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Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 5:24 pm

Still living in the year 1985 are we?

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make war not love... uh wait December 30, 2015 at 7:03 pm

no he thinks he is from 1969. Another old deadbeat pothead jackass

Limbaughsaphatkhunt December 30, 2015 at 5:04 pm

First of all, weed (even the hq kush) is fairly inexpensive these days…if you know where to shop :-)

Secondly, I’m white and love to smoke.

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Matt Foley December 30, 2015 at 7:01 pm

“I’m white and love to smoke”
I am picturing you as a fat, half bald guy but still with a ponytail and a goatee, with cargo shorts, teva’s, and a “vintage” Dead shirt to a concert you never went to, sitting in a van down by the river. No wonder your dumbass is a “democrat” or should I say Jackass. HeeHaw

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt December 30, 2015 at 7:18 pm

lol…you’ve just described the Comic Book guy from the Simpsons.

FYI, there are plenty of R’s who smoke as well. We are well past the days of stereotyping marijuana smokers…well some of us are anyway.

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LMAO December 30, 2015 at 1:44 pm

Nothing bunch of thugs at Cowtech anyway.

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Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:27 pm

And the USCe Dirtpeckers are nothing more than a bunch of choir boys sitting at home watching the games on television.

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LMAO December 30, 2015 at 6:57 pm

Your boys will be home Friday (3 are already home). Will they be excited about their “participation” award you always talk about?

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Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 7:56 pm

Ahh, genius… you do realize whether they win or lose they’ll be home on Friday. Please think things through before typing.

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LMAO December 31, 2015 at 8:34 am

Good try, but bad deflection on your part. You are as dumb as that idiot Tango was. I am starting to think you are him just without the @#^&! and the yelling at Folks

Squishy123 December 31, 2015 at 9:35 am

More than a good try, I knocked your dick into the dirt and you’re just too dumb to realize it.

LMAO December 31, 2015 at 9:49 am

And there is the Tango we all know and love to hate

Speak D Truth December 30, 2015 at 2:15 pm

Dabo is a phony! He didn’t send these guys home the NCAA did. The guy with a prior DUI and cocaine charge should have been dismissed from the team then but Dabo let him stay. Now he has another drug charge and Dabo still hasn’t kicked him off of the team.

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just sayin December 30, 2015 at 2:21 pm

The players run that locker room.He looks and acts like Les Miles retarded son.

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mamatiger92 December 30, 2015 at 2:33 pm

stay classy, flip.

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Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:39 pm

You don’t see the resemblance?I look just like my uncle Shitster456.He was born in Ohio.

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Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:33 pm

Speaking of retarded sons, what are Slurrier’s boys doing these days? I guess it must be tough finding a job where your boss isn’t dear ol’ dad.

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Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:27 pm

Remember when Slurrier came to USCe and stated that he had zero tolerance for drugs, that his player can choose playing or drugs but not both. How many Dirtpeckers were caught using marijuana and stayed on the team?

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Speak D Truth December 30, 2015 at 2:29 pm

You ignore the fact that this discussion is about Dabo and his tolerance for players that use hard drugs. No matter if it was Watkins with pills or this recent guy with cocaine.

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Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:32 pm

So is both coaches set the same policy, only one has to abide by it to. Is that what you’re saying?

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Don't Blame Spurrier December 30, 2015 at 2:35 pm

Just because Spurrier has zero tolerance for drug use doesn’t mean that the people who sign his paycheck have the same policy.

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What's your point? December 30, 2015 at 4:38 pm

None

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mamatiger92 December 30, 2015 at 2:30 pm

“Now he has another drug charge and Dabo still hasn’t kicked him off of the team.”
He’s a senior, genius. He doesn’t need to.

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Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:32 pm

I hear we got a bunch of queers on the Clemson football team.I like that.Not the drugs though.

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Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:34 pm

You’ve mistaken them for the USC women’s basketball team. There are bigger dicks in that locker room than in the men’s locker room.

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You like the locker room December 30, 2015 at 10:50 pm

You would know all about that wouldn’t you

Squishy123 December 31, 2015 at 9:34 am

What, peeking in the USCe women’s locker room… yeah and I puked and gouged my eyes out soon afterwards.

Moo U December 30, 2015 at 2:34 pm

Senior, at Clemson, so what, 3, 4 more semesters before he graduates?

I keed, I keed….

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Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:35 pm

I took a class online at Clemson and they sent my grades before the class began.

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Moo U December 30, 2015 at 2:38 pm

If you can successfully sign in to class then you are already on the front end of the bell curve.

Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:40 pm

They told me to mail my tuition payments to dabo?

Moo U December 30, 2015 at 2:42 pm

Yes and Dabo will sign your diploma personally too. And if you ever get hungry there’s a takeout menu printed on the back.

Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 2:44 pm

Will he lay hands on me? I just feel Jesus has big plans for that retard.We call him Dabotard when he gets all red faced!

Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 4:07 pm

I hear you enjoy it when a man lays his hands on you. Reminds you of your dear old dad.

Stop Talking To Yourself December 30, 2015 at 4:09 pm

Funny you should chime in at the laying hands part, did that get you excited?

Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 4:10 pm

Not as much as it did for you.

What a Fool December 30, 2015 at 4:12 pm

Oh wow, what a come back. Don’t let me keep you from drooling over Dabo like a good little giddy Clemsux girl.

Squishy123 December 30, 2015 at 5:20 pm

Oh wow, what a come back. Don’t let me keep you from drooling over Slurrier like a good little giddy USCe girl.

Rockie Veranalspicsterheimer December 31, 2015 at 7:43 am

Baylor RUSHED for 645 yards against UNC the other night in a their beat down over the Tar Heels. Clemson EXPOSED again as a fraud.

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Scooter January 2, 2016 at 1:26 pm

yeah man, Those SEC East champs really looked great.

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Elfego December 31, 2015 at 11:34 am

How much of you is phony ? The only thing I hold against Dabo other than beating Carolina is the way he handled the traffic ticket some time back and I hope he has grown from that incident. I dare say not many if any in here could handle the spotlight near as gracious if we were in that position. In my lifetime I have seen quite a few people bite the bullet because of their circumstances going to their head.

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Slartibartfast December 30, 2015 at 4:00 pm

Why aren’t we talking about the fact that Clemson has a real challenge? http://www.tigernet.com/story/football/Brutally-Honest-Venables-POs-players-telling-truth-14299 Oklahoma isn’t USC, this year. They have good players and a good coach. Dabo & Venables know this. Drugs’re bad mmkay?

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guest December 30, 2015 at 6:32 pm

We at Clemson say so long dummies!

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Native Ink December 30, 2015 at 10:46 pm

Pretty soon colleges in states like Colorado and Oregon will dominate college football. If you to school there, you can kick butt on the field and then relax with a fat J afterward without being hit with some BS suspension or dismissal.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein December 31, 2015 at 9:48 am

TBG’s Tigers will smoke the Sooners by double digits.

That is all.

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Elfego December 31, 2015 at 11:31 am

I hope you are correct and not dreaming. I would settle for them just to win. I disagree but few of them I really know and dislike unless they are Atheist Democrat’s.I am a real Carolina Fan and have been but I surely hope Clemson wins it all. Why hate someone because of a rivalry. These players kneel and pray together. Wake up Clemson and Carolina Fans we are all representing South Carolina.

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