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Will Folks: Thoughts On Alex Murdaugh’s Retrial Hearing

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52 comments

Oh Come On! January 30, 2024 at 1:33 pm

I guess five years from now, Fits will still be beating this dead horse of a story.

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It Can Always Be Worse January 30, 2024 at 4:01 pm

I’d take that over Prioleau posts any day.

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Dianne Lopp Top fan January 30, 2024 at 2:18 pm

Will Folks, if you were truly concerned with judicial corruption in South Carolina, your lede would be Carmen Mullen, all day, every day.

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Rebecca Shields Top fan January 30, 2024 at 5:48 pm

Mullen needs to be under the microscope. Judge Toal was excellent

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Tom Jones January 30, 2024 at 3:06 pm

For all that’s good and decent in the world, can you please move on from Murdaugh????? Nobody cares. Besides, he could be convicted of murder and run for the SC Senate after he’s released and win as long as he’s a GQP candidate.

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Exactly, My Friend January 30, 2024 at 5:18 pm

Amen!

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Too Much For Too Long January 30, 2024 at 6:45 pm

Out of the five top stories on the home page, rarely are there any less than three about the Murdaugh drivel. Frequently more. Almost never less than two.

Enough already!

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Sarah Nations Top fan January 30, 2024 at 4:14 pm

Just curious, who is still paying his attorney fees?

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Dianne Lopp Top fan January 30, 2024 at 7:48 pm

Yes, I thought Justice Toal surpassed even Judge Newman–which is high praise indeed.

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Elaine Zimney Top fan January 30, 2024 at 9:41 pm

I agree! One brilliant woman!

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Cynthia Saloom Top fan January 30, 2024 at 10:25 pm

Very brilliant, I agree. Also very biased. Obviously had her decision made well before Monday.

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Elaine Zimney Top fan January 30, 2024 at 9:40 pm

I want to know that also!

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JustSomeGuy Top fan January 30, 2024 at 4:26 pm

I believe that standard used by Judge Toal makes sense, regardless of any conflicting legal precedents. If 12 jurors render a verdict, and it was completely unaffected by the actions or statements of a third party, why should that justify a retrial? Regarding the one juror that testified that she was affected, that was only on her THIRD statement of her position. In the moment, she declared that her guilty verdict was her own and based on the facts and the law. In her second go at it, she said she was pressured by other jurors. Well, that’s just part of the gig, assuming it isn’t egregious. Only when asked a third time did she say her verdict was affected by the clerk of court. Unbelievably, she asked for (or was prompted to provide) yet a FOURTH rendition! Her word has as much value as Becky Hill’s, and in my mind, they wash each other out. The remaining jurors made it very plain that any comments or actions by Mrs. Hill did not have any bearing on their verdict.

If there is genuine concern with the validity of the jury process, you should be screaming about the attorneys tracking these poor people down after a trial to make them justify how they voted. There should be a law protecting jurors from after-the-fact harassment.

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Elaine Zimney Top fan January 30, 2024 at 9:45 pm

You are 100% on target. That may be why Judge Toal repeatedly said if anyone harassed them for an interview just to let her know! Joe McCullough, juror x attorney, is to blame I heard! He is a good friend of Dick Poots?

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Rakish Top fan February 5, 2024 at 3:04 pm

No kidding. Very expensive Defense attorneys track jurors down months after trial and essentially bribe them to change their verdict. Only one juror agrees and only 2 heard Hill say anything about Murdaugh. The juror in question made an affidavit 5 months after trial that failed to claim her verdict was influenced by Hill. But her new testimony last week, coached by defense attorneys, is now adequate grounds for a retrial? If that is Folks idea of justice, it will become very expensive in SC and only available to defendants like Murdaugh. That Folks turns this sham into a civil right crusade must be about settling scores and posturing for clicks than any concern about jury tampering. It seems easier to conclude that the defense is guilty of jury tampering post hoc. Obviously this possibility has not occurred to FITS news..

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Cynthia Saloom Top fan January 30, 2024 at 10:16 pm

Will is 100% right. Regardless of AM’s guilt, the U.S. Constitution was assaulted on Monday. Conflicts of interest, predetermined outcome, what a shit show.
Don’t forget – AM and Co. are democrats, Alan Wilson & Company probably Republicans. That is an additional unspoken bias in this case.
Becky Hill destroyed the trial, and AM should have been awarded a new trial.

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JustCallMeAva Top fan January 31, 2024 at 10:35 am

11 Jurors said she did not “destroy the trial” or impact their verdict. He was guilty as hell and every (sane) person knows it. This BS coming from Poot & Jim is just a smokescreen to save their own tainted reputation. How many times have they thrown out false info? More times than I can count at this point. Anything to try and get their client off which is their job. They obviously enjoy the attention and the $$$$$$. At some point, the $$$$ is going to go away and let’s see how much they believe in their client’s “innocence” then. Judge Toal has the best credentials of any judge in this state. She ruled correctly. She shouldn’t have to throw out a verdict because one juror claimed a story and signed an affidavit after being tracked down by the defense team along with a disgruntled, alternate. BOTH those witnesses changed their story on the stand. So we’re supposed to believe 2 non-credible witnesses as opposed to the other 11 jurors? Yeah, no.

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Marie Penn Top fan January 31, 2024 at 9:06 am

Thank you for your comments. Well said.

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JustSomeGuy Top fan January 30, 2024 at 4:29 pm

I think I’d like to have a cigar and a glass of bourbon with Justice Toal. I’d probably feel like the village idiot for that hour, but it could be fascinating.

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ricfits Top fan January 30, 2024 at 5:10 pm

TOTALLY AGREE, Just Some Guy!
Well said. Juror Z reminded me of a stop sign blowing in the wind during a blizzard. She didn’t know WHAT way she wanted to go.
For those of us who are just common folk, yesterday was a victory for the jurors. Now they can get on with their lives. Imagine Dick showing up while you are cooking Sunday dinner to harass you about your honesty during a trial for a madman!
Go find a different dirt road Dick!
Will, there will be other chances to bust the SC judicial system for dereliction of their duties. Now that yesterday has been decided, we can get on with other important cases.

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Dianne Lopp Top fan January 30, 2024 at 7:49 pm

Amen!

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Elaine Zimney Top fan January 30, 2024 at 9:47 pm

Masterfully said! Agree totally! Hope Will Folks read these comments!

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Jackie January 30, 2024 at 5:47 pm

Will, please … it’s “I COULDN’T care less, not “I COULD care less”. Sound it out, you’ll see. It’s difficult to accept your professional journalism with such an obvious faux pas.

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Clemson McDaniel III January 30, 2024 at 5:53 pm

One of Will’s best works…sure you can argue differently but the essence of the article is spot on…and the reason you all come to this site and join the fight. Recently, I was told by a top lawyer outside the State that if they bring a case to court in SC Toal is our Judge. Those in the know deal with this all the time…Horrible, horrendous but explains all the drunks associated with the SC justice system. The sum of their lives laid bare through the window into the soul of Murdaugh offspring. Horrifying and Dorian Gray like… They are not different in kind just different in degree of …… Thank you Will et al @ Fits

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yawn January 30, 2024 at 6:35 pm

“ Why would we go to such lengths on behalf of someone as eminently undeserving of those efforts as Alex Murdaugh?”

For clicks and some money.

Now Fits”News” has the sadz because the public doesn’t care about this crap anymore and has moved on.

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JustCallMeAva Top fan January 31, 2024 at 10:36 am

Pretty sure Will has the sads because he didn’t get a book deal out of this as one of his former reporters did. So now he’s shilling for the defense 24/7.

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VERITAS Top fan January 30, 2024 at 7:20 pm

FITSNEWS fails on this one. Murdaugh’s defense wants a do-over on everything. Jurors don’t get to declare in court their verdict and then come back a YEAR later and say differently. Juror Z, in her original sworn affidavit, said she voted guilty because of “PRESSURE” from the jury. After Harpo and Griff got ahold of her, she waffled (surprise, surprise, surprise). She offered conflicting testimony at the Jan. 29 hearing. Then, she wanted to come back and clarify her testimony THAT SAME DAY. ENOUGH! of this bullshit farce of FITSNEWS interpretation of “justice” due the people of South Carolina regarding Murdaugh. He’s guilty. Suck it up, FITS NEWS, and enough of your pontificating.

Two highly respected judges have made it clear that they are convinced of the “overwhelming” and “compelling” evidence presented at Murdaugh’s double-murder trial. Eleven of the 12 jurors reaffirmed that they convicted on the evidence and the law. WTF more do you want, FITSNEWS? Keep rhe story going for more clicks? Geezus freakin’ crazy.

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Elaine Zimney Top fan January 30, 2024 at 9:48 pm

Great comments!

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Marie Penn Top fan January 31, 2024 at 9:08 am

Exactly! Very well said.

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Dianne Lopp Top fan January 30, 2024 at 7:56 pm

He’s as guilty as the day is long—of a HEINOUS crime— and not worth the hand wringing and gnashing of teeth that are better suited to a revival of Hamlet on Broadway. This is a joke?-I listened to Juror Z and I did not find her credible.

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Michael Top fan January 30, 2024 at 8:00 pm

Will, what say you about Snake Harpootlian’s bombshell (which will probably be abreviated as BS) that he had “developed new information, that we will reveal shortly” regarding the murders at Moselle? Harpootlian throws this stuff out in a Biden-like manner, and his Columbia media sycophants never follow up. What do you know about it?

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The Colonel Top fan January 30, 2024 at 8:32 pm

“….three jurors testified under oath as to multiple instances of tampering involving Hill…” I know you were there, how did you get this so wrong?!? You sound like Dick.

11 of 12 jurors said they reached a decision based on the facts and evidence presented – hence, no tampering. The 12th impeached herself by changing her story at least three times including twice on the stand. Of the other two jurors who said they might have heard Hill say something, none agree on what it was she said.

Toal got it absolutely right. “Elick “still has multiple opportunities for releif and his best bet will be at the federal appellate level. HarmBo is looking for the exit and Toal gave it to them, “Elick” is probably broke now (at least in funds he can get his hands on from prison), Harpo has ruined his “greatest lawyer alive” reputation by hopelessly f@cking this case up at every turn and JimBo has destroyed any chance of ever achieving Harpo’s level of “revere” after this debacle. Those two delusional idiots were claiming, AFTER the ass whipping they got, that they would reveal the “real murderer” – what are they planning to break “Elick” out of prison to present him? You almost wonder if “Elick: doesn’t have something on both of them…
Now it’s time to shove “Elick” in a deep dark hole and go after Mullens, Todd, PiMPED, Palmetto Fed and all the rest of the willing co-conspirators in SC’s judicial hellhole.

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Elaine Zimney Top fan January 30, 2024 at 9:51 pm

100% correct!

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VERITAS Top fan February 17, 2024 at 5:51 pm

Golly gee whiz, you said that damn good.

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davismcclam Top fan January 30, 2024 at 9:16 pm

I agree with you 100 per cent

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Elaine Zimney Top fan January 30, 2024 at 9:38 pm

Will Folks – no one is advocating that Becky Hill NOT BE PROSECUTED! This hearing was about whether the lone juror x was influenced by Becky Hill in any way and in her signed affidavit she clearly said the other jurors “persuaded” her to vote guilty – she changed that when she was on the stand! That is why Judge Toal ruled the way she did. It seems to me that Dick Poots had Joe McCullough, his attorney friend, search out all the jurors until he found one he could persuade to alter their testimony as to how her vote was influenced. Besides, she confirmed under oath at the trial that her vote was guilty. Dick Poots is the one manipulating the system! I am so disappointed with you and now QUESTION YOUR JUDGEMENT in general! You need to go back and review all of the jurors testimony. What is wrong about Becky Hill writing a book. You would be the first one to capitalize on that opportunity!

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Marie Penn Top fan January 31, 2024 at 9:50 am

Absolutely! I totally agree.

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VERITAS Top fan January 31, 2024 at 6:49 pm

100% agree.

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Rev. Dr. Bradley Carey January 31, 2024 at 7:52 am

This whole bit of nonsense wanting a re-trial was just another stunt of his to try to get out of what he was legitimately convicted of. He tried to pull a Biden and Hillary stunt and blame someone else for his own doings and shortcomings. He tried yet again to get away with it, but the courts saw what he was doing. When he comes to his Final Judgement, I can see him trying to pull the same nonsense of blaming someone else for his actions or conviction, but it will not fly there either.

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TH January 31, 2024 at 10:21 am

Murdaugh 2.0 happening in Anderson county common pleas cts that expose the judges
..lawyers…insurance carriers…medical personnel and the state actors and others. Including sc bar and judicial committee as they are caught in a murder for hire plot and money laundering scheme w judges closing cases to help hide the scheme….u want to know why murdaugh case is scripted to protect all the other players in this scheme…look no farther than to Kennedy and Fink case against criminal defendants hore by judges to shut ppl up that know too much. Act quick bc govt trying to erase the case by removing any doc filed by them and worse. The number on their pleadings is 954 279 3785 and they had to fire their attorney who was caught colluding w the other side and judges to silence them and try to entrap them to go to prison. Their days are numbered w this corrupt system. It will show u how wide the muraugh case is and judges and others all over the state are involved in this deadly rackett!

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Clemson McDaniel III February 2, 2024 at 9:18 am

TH you are spot on…you obviously know the system which most do not. Excellent of you in citing cases and pleadings. Sadly, it is so wide reaching in its corruption that without high profile cases like Murdaugh bringing in outside attention(national/international media) there is little chance this system can be broken. I have had more people come to me from all over this country saying OHH MY GOD after viewing either NETFLIX or other documentaries on the financial crimes alone. The insidious way the people in positions of power here run the levers of justice is utterly shocking!

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Michael Top fan January 31, 2024 at 10:25 am

Will, your coverage of Murdaugh has been excellent. Don’t “move on.” That phrase has a lot of Clinton-stink on it anyway. We SC citizens depend on you for honest reportage of the most crucial legal battle in this state in a very long time.

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Michael Top fan January 31, 2024 at 10:29 am

Regarding Juror “X” and her wavering; the “pressure” she felt is called jury deliberations. Are we gonna have to institute a “forever vote” in which the jury is polled monthly during the entire sentence of a convicted criminal?

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Lizzie0714 Top fan January 31, 2024 at 10:55 am

This was the definition of a runaway jury. Also a great movie and book btw. Justice Toal was excellent under the circumstances. However, what we witnessed was (on its face) the not so alarming fact that even a rich white man with the best attorneys money can buy, cannot even get a fair trial in that corrupt state! Everyone else can rest assured that they also can give up any and all hopes of receiving a fair trial in the low country! What’s really going on is that justice Toal just gifted the Murdaugh legally dynasty one final parting gift…. A new standard of law with their family name on it! Bye bye U.S. v Remmer and SC v Green, hello and welcome U.S. v Murdaugh for all to reference for years to come! ???????. Alex has all the time in the world to see this through. He is also gifted many field trips throughout the years to come. Can’t wait to see where this journey takes us.

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Rakish Top fan January 31, 2024 at 11:16 am

I am sympathetic. It has to hard for media people to leave the Murdaugh affair behind. What with all the easy clickbait articles and easy subscription $…

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Rakish Top fan January 31, 2024 at 11:17 am

I am sympathetic. It must be hard for media folks to leave the Murdaugh affair behind. What with all the easy clickbait articles and easy subscription $…

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SubZeroIq January 31, 2024 at 6:09 pm

FITS and many others: so long as you keep saying Alex Murdaugh (“AM”) is guilty of the murders but he should be retried and re-convicted for the appearance of due process and the APPEARANCE of the right to an impartial jury, you demean an innocent, wrongly-convicted man, AND you demean the constitutional guarantees themselves.
Important as they are, the constitutional guarantees are NOT just for show; their ultimate aim is to prevent wrongful convictions.
And YOU had a leading role in procuring THIS wrongful conviction, including as an example of hundreds, spreading that false “blood spatter” story which, in reality, exonerates AM. But its true import came out too late.
Your efforts to expiate for what YOU did to AM and his family are too little BUT NOT too late.
So long as there is life there is hope.
Admit to who fed you the blood spatter story; admit to what you know about Mandi Matney (who is a leading candidate of being one of the real killers); admit to the deal you had with Eric Bland and when and how it broke down.
Frankly, that jury had tampered with itself long before Becky Hill tampered with it.
Frankly too, that jury, at least “Eric Bland’s five” wanted to, AND DID, poke their fingers in Jean Toal’s eye BECAUSE Eric Bland told them they could get away with it.
If you are trying to clear your conscience, what you are doing now does NOT cut with God.
If you are trying to get clicks and stuff, the REAL story of how that conviction was cooked FROM THE BEGINNING can get you “the book of the century.”
Do the right thing; but do not do it by halves.
God speed.

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VERITAS Top fan January 31, 2024 at 6:52 pm

Harpo? Griff? McCulloch? That you?

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SubZeroIQ February 1, 2024 at 6:50 pm

Veritas, will you ever understand the no lawyer in South Carolina can analyze or write like the incomparable SubZeroIQ?

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Kidd Top fan February 23, 2024 at 5:58 am

? No Tas-Tas it’s not Mc Grarpoo (see what I did there?) I know who they are and you’re way off base. They are a part of the case tho. Can you figure out how? I did! Simple enough!

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VERITAS Top fan January 31, 2024 at 6:55 pm

By the way, FITS NEWS content is well worth the monthly subscription cost. No one does it like FITS NEWS. No one.

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Elaine Zimney Top fan February 9, 2024 at 12:32 pm

Just listened to Martha McCullum’s introductory interview with two Murdaugh trial jurors and their attorney who was with them stating there was NO PRESSURE at all to reach a not guilty verdict or any verdict that night as hotel rooms were already arranged for them. Why don’t you do a report on that Fitsnews? This one juror, in my opinion has been persuaded to lie, for whatever reason, by Joe McCullough!

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