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Mandy Powers Norrell’s 2016 State Of the State Response: Full Text

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CorruptionInColumbia January 21, 2016 at 7:51 am

Our schools are under-funded? I thought the Republicans were as much on board with throwing money at a failing system as the Democrats are. Hell, there should be as much or more common ground with the two factions on educstion as anywhere. As with most everything the government does, the answer is not throwing more money at it (higher taxes), but demanding AND receiving performance and accountability from those the money is given to. Whether SCDOT and no-bid contracts that make people like Hugh Leatherman laugh all the way to the bank, or numerous snd unnecessary school administrators making obscene salaries for at best doing nothing or even hindering teachers in the performance of their jobs, there needs to be accountability for our money and how it is spent.

Heck, I was hoping Ms Norrell was at least going to tell us about her recent trip to Cuba.

http://m.thelancasternews.com/lancasternews/db/322936/content/Zwu8gYol

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RINO January 21, 2016 at 8:02 am

There will never be any accountability so long as the elected can count on people reflexively pulling the “R” lever on election day.

The rubes in this state are simply to dim to see that the ONLY difference between “R” and “D” is who they give the free money to.

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CorruptionInColumbia January 21, 2016 at 8:04 am

Yep!

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Tazmaniiac January 21, 2016 at 9:00 am

As a Democrat loving Nazi type, I love me some RINO.

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Tazmaniac January 21, 2016 at 9:15 am

FLIP, I wish they would have discussed helping mental deficients such as you. Putting you in section 8 with a EBT card and letting you “blog” on the interweb al day while sitting on a load of crap in your shorts is not helping you.

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flip January 21, 2016 at 10:14 am

Not me Taz.I consider you a weak,lying POS RINO that is the reason Obama was elected 2x’s however I am not spoofing your account.I wouldn’t waste my time with an intellectual light weight like you.

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CorruptionInColumbia January 21, 2016 at 11:34 am

As you know, I’m not a particularly religious soul, just spiritual. That said and out of the way, I’ll just be damned if this article I came across a few minutes ago doesn’t say a lot about a recurring issue on here.

http://skywatchtv.com/2016/01/21/for-whom-the-baal-trolls-part-one/

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Tazmaniac January 21, 2016 at 12:15 pm

Horn honkers like FLIP who proclaim to be “christian conservatives” and want to spend their day trolling you because they think you aren’t as good as them or have the same, cookie cutter, exact opinion as them are people who have such terrible personal failings and lives that they lash out at others to take their tiny minds off of their shortcomings. Take religion out and you have a far leftist. Both are fascist weaklings.

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idcydm January 21, 2016 at 5:52 pm

When FLIP attacks, I for one think…damn I did something right again.

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Tazmaniac January 21, 2016 at 5:57 pm

You know you hit the mark when he keeps trolling you and then spoofs you. I deserve a marksmanship award, he is in meltdown.

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Tazmaniac January 21, 2016 at 8:18 am

Just couldn’t wait to go kiss up to the Commies could she? Both speeches are the same old stuff. To actually get something done isn’t where the political power is, it is in the promise of fulfilling the promises.

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CorruptionInColumbia January 21, 2016 at 8:57 am

That’s a very good way of wording that, Taz!

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Drink the Kool Aid January 21, 2016 at 7:59 am

“If the Republicans could have given us the South Carolina we want and know is possible, they would have done it a long time ago.”

Say what you want about the rest of the speech, the statement above is the absolute truth.

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Tazmaniac January 21, 2016 at 8:27 am

I wasn’t here at the time, but i am to understand it was the Democrats that left the party and voted them out for the same reasons as you want the Republicans out. As I said below, the power is in the promise, not the fulfillment.

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idcydm January 21, 2016 at 8:39 am

Too bad Haley’s not a Democrat, they would have loved her State of the State address.

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21stconfed(L) January 21, 2016 at 8:43 am

“I’ll tell you one thing that has changed. During that time, Republicans have been in almost total control of state government.”

correlation does not equal causation, and no, republicans are not to blame for our roads and education problems. high paid teachers and new facilities can not stem the tide of a culture shift to the gutter. The problem with our schools are the people. 25 years ago people had cheap gas and gas guzzling pickups and didnt mind the gas tax. now people drive cars that use 1/2 the gas therefore half the gas tax revenue, no wonder our roads are in shambles.

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idcydm January 21, 2016 at 9:05 am

The problem is not “gas tax revenue”. The problem is just like Social Security and Medicare the tax revenue is thrown into the general fund and spent elsewhere.

Tax revenue is used to buy votes and when you rob Peter to pay Paul you can always count on the support of Paul.

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Tazmaniac January 21, 2016 at 9:45 am

Road contracting is a dirty business and I’m not talking about the asphalt. Same in Florida, widely corrupt. Our best start would be getting our money’s worth on what we spend now and then go from there.

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RogueElephant January 21, 2016 at 10:22 am

This is the truest statement I have seen in a while. BRAVO.

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guru January 21, 2016 at 10:03 am

Nimrata did not graduate a public school. She went to a private one…Orangeburg Prep. Her parents did lord knows what. She has no clue, as she and her husband live off the taxpayers.

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The Colonel (R) January 21, 2016 at 10:34 am

Allow me to parse a little:

“…Twenty five years ago…Per-pupil funding in our schools was at an all time high. (LIE 1) Our roads and bridges were some of the best in the nation. (LIE 2)Our neighbors had jobs with reliable health insurance and stable retirement plans…” (LIE 3)

“…Did you know that if you are working but making minimum wage, you would have health care coverage at no cost(LIE 4) if the Republicans had only voted with the Democrats to accept these federal funds?…”

Lie 1 – Funding for public schools in South Carolina has consistently increased year in and year out with the exception of 2003 and 2008 for more than the last twenty years: http://www.scrgfoundation.org/files/SCRGPublicSchoolLayout.pdf. In ’03 and ’08, adjusted dollars showed the continued increase in spending over previous years.

Lie 2 – From the earliest days of our existence, South Carolina has suffered from poor roads and bridges. G. Washington described the sand hills this way during his Southern Tour of 1791 – south Carolina is a “…“pine barren of the worst sort, being hilly as well as poor…” He went on to decry the generally poor conditions of our roads and infrastructure.

Lie 3 and 4 – South Carolina has always had an uninsured group of about 16% of the state – the ACA did nothing to fix this: http://www.ipspr.sc.edu/scip/pubhealth/afford.asp http://www.hhs.gov/healthcare/facts-and-features/state-by-state/how-aca-is-working-for-south-carolina/index.html

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flip January 21, 2016 at 10:51 am

But Nikki took the confederate flag down for you suckers.Peace has broken out all over the world and Nikki can be worshiped at the alter of the RINO/Liberal Establishment.

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RogueElephant January 21, 2016 at 11:34 am

Just like when Obummer was elected, the oceans started to recede. LOL

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Mike at the Beach January 21, 2016 at 2:06 pm

You didn’t build that…

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RogueElephant January 21, 2016 at 10:11 pm

Mike Huckabee said that was like thanking the bus driver because your kid got an A.

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No More Racist Flag January 21, 2016 at 11:42 am

Thank GOD for Nikki Haley, she finally ended that racist little flag’s miserable influence on our state. Now our state can begin to heal and our people unite. God bless South Carolina!

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9" January 21, 2016 at 12:38 pm

What kind of car did G. Washington drive?

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The Colonel (R) January 21, 2016 at 1:40 pm

A Lincoln?

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9" January 21, 2016 at 3:36 pm

That’s what I was gonna say.Great minds…

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The Colonel (R) January 21, 2016 at 6:17 pm

Maybe a Ford?

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shifty henry January 22, 2016 at 9:02 am

The Ford is my auto; I shall not walk. It maketh me to lie down beneath it.

It leaveth me stranded in deep waters. It vexeth my soul.

It leadeth me in the path of ridicule for its namesake.

Yea, though I ride through the valleys, I am towed up the hills.

I fear all evil for my sparkplug orrodeth.

My rods and my bolts discomfort me.

It preparest a puncture in the presence of trouble.

It anointest my hands with grease. My radiator boileth over.

Surely, curses and punctures shall follow me all the days of my life,

and I shall plead before the Ford
in vain forever.

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Mary January 21, 2016 at 12:52 pm

I don’t know about the school report. I would need to know who funded the study to know whether to trust it.

But you are wrong about the health care. If SC had elected expanded Medicaid, the percentage of uninsured in this state would have dropped dramatically. That was part of the affordable care act and was designed to deal with people who could not afford health insurance.

The reason we have always had uninsured is because there are people who cannot afford insurance or who private insurance companies do not want to insure.

I actually would prefer Sanders’ Medicare for all.

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flip January 21, 2016 at 1:07 pm

That argument riles people like David McIntosh, an evangelical Christian who heads the conservative Club for Growth.

“I fundamentally disagree with Kasich that that is the compassionate way to help poor people,’’ he said. “What he’s saying is, ‘We’ll spend money and sign you up for the worst kind of health care system in the country.’ ”

Expanded Medicaid under Obamacare is bankrupting Ohio.No doctors.Nobody is taking it.

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The Colonel (R) January 21, 2016 at 1:07 pm

The operative words that makes it a lie is “at no cost”. The cost is either increased taxes or increased debt – neither are acceptable at his point. as for the “Medicare for all” concept, getting health care for everyone was never the real intent of the ACA, it was getting “gubamint control” over your healthcare and insurance.

If congress had really wanted to provide “health care for all”, they would have shut down medicaid, allowed insurance companies to sell across state lines, encouraged MSAs and provided a stipend for those on Medicaid and up to 200% of the PL to but their own insurance. The savings from canceling Medicaid would have covered the cost easily.

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Mary January 21, 2016 at 1:21 pm

Allowing insurance companies to sell across state lines does nothing. That is just a bunch of crap made up by Republicans. If you expand your sales into other states claims will go up as will your premiums. In the end all you get is states like Wyoming where cows outnumber people setting the rules on who can sell insurance in states states like California and New York. No accountability and the state is stuck with an uninsured population when the insurance company goes under and cannot pay the bills.

Medical Savings accounts do nothing if you cannot afford insurance.

The federal poverty level for a family of four is about 25k. People at 200% of the PL cannot possibly afford health insurance. Housing, utilities and food eat up there entire income.

Finally, you seem to be perfectly happy with government insurance, a government check, and government retirement.

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The Colonel (R) January 21, 2016 at 1:38 pm

I write the check for my health insurance each month. I will not be eligible for “gubamint” insurance until I am 60 (reservists do immediately get health care. I will not draw a dime of “gubamint” retirement until I am 57 and a half (Reservists draw their retirement at 60 and get credit for deployment time in some circumstances – I get credit for 2.5 years)

So despite getting all of you information wrong, nice ad hominem attack anyway.

As for the market place – allowing companies to sell across lines lowers the cost of insurance by allowing cost savings based on economies of scale. Your point about Montana making the rules for another state is ridiculous – just like car insurance, each state could set minimal requirements.

As for the PL argument – that’s why they get the stipend up to 200%.

Man, you’re all over it today 3 for 3…

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Mary January 21, 2016 at 1:53 pm

I was under the impression you were a government employee. Do you not work for the state?

Selling across state lines will not lower cost by producing economies of scale if you let each state set the rules for who can sell insurance. That is what we have now. Any insurance company can ask to sell insurance in any state. They just have to meet the requirements of that state. That means certain reserve requirements and certain mandated coverage as well as other regulations designed to assure they have the ability to pay. If Montana Mutual wants to sell insurance in California they can do that now. They simply have to go through the California insurance commission and prove they meet the qualifications to do so.

You are totally missing my point on the PL. People at 200% to 300% of the poverty level probably cannot afford insurance. Where do you propose the subsidies stop? If you leave the insurance industry in charge they will always price their products to maximize profit not minimize cost.

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The Colonel (R) January 21, 2016 at 2:10 pm

200% for a family of 4 is slightly less than $50,000.

After I left active duty, my family of then three made slightly less than 200% in 1992 and lived quite well. We didn’t have a cool new car – we had my beater Isuzu. We didn’t have the latest cell phone (or any cell phone for that matter). We didn’t even have cable.

We made decisions to spend money based on what was important rather than what was “cool”. I’ve made considerably more in the intervening years but we still try to spend on what’s important rather than what’s cool. We’ve never owned a “new car” except for the Saturn we bought when my wife got her first real job. We average 250-300,000 miles on a car before we trade – the issues are about personal responsibility.

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Mary January 21, 2016 at 6:16 pm

Oh don’t give me the I walked five miles to school in the snow talk. Wages have not kept up with inflation. Today a policy to cover a family of four is about $1,150 a month unsubsidized. Try paying for that when your income $4,100 a month gross and you have to house, feed and clothe the family.

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The Colonel (R) January 21, 2016 at 6:17 pm

You’d be surprised to know how many people are doing just that.

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Bob January 21, 2016 at 1:37 pm

I love it. The government wants to take control of your health care. What a joke. After all a ruthless insurance company out to charge as much as possible, pay as little as possible, and dump you as soon as you get sick is a much better choice to put in control of your health care.

Americans pay more than any other country in the world for health care by a long shot, and yet we are nowhere near the top in health care results. Further our people are among the most unhappy with their health care.

We need a universal health care system or at least universal health insurance.

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The Colonel (R) January 21, 2016 at 1:41 pm

Mary, Bob – I assume you want you gender reassignment surgery to be covered?

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Mike at the Beach January 21, 2016 at 2:08 pm

In the immortal words of CSM Basil Plumley… “Gentleman; prepare to defend yourselves.”

You will be pilloried (once again) for bringing your pesky, factual BS onto this board.

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The Colonel (R) January 21, 2016 at 2:11 pm

Yeah, such is life…

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CorruptionInColumbia January 21, 2016 at 2:55 pm

Speaking of schools, they should get no additionsl funding unless and until they hire teachers, administrators, and other staff who can at least pretend to have common sense.

Although this is a Texas school, the stupidity in this story could have happened anywhere.
That this kid was suspended for doing ehat was right should result in at least s couple of firings.

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/nation/2016/01/21/tx-student-suspended-carrying-classmate-having-asthma-attack/79112058/

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idcydm January 21, 2016 at 5:47 pm

It would help if they knew the three R’s also.

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Mike at the Beach January 21, 2016 at 4:10 pm

Let’s keep things intellectual here…she is pretty cute, though.

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Tazmaniac January 21, 2016 at 6:02 pm

Check out the Oil Price thread! Classic FITS.

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MillHillMan January 21, 2016 at 9:52 pm

Another Lancaster native here letting you know she is so full of shit!!! “I know all those who serve in my hometown”, this woman and her husband have their nose so far in the air they could care less about those they consider below them which includes all citizens of Lancaster and this state unless there’s Political power to gain. More lies from another useless human taking up more oxygen from those too stupid to kick her ass to the curb!!!

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