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SC Democrats Battle Over Gay Marriage

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tomstickler November 20, 2013 at 1:58 pm

This website repeatedly refuses to understand that in this society, the only marriage that legally exists is one recognized by the state. And before anyone starts hollering about common-law marriages — yes, they are also recognized by the state if certain conditions are met.

As far as religious congregations are concerned, they only matter insofar as certain of their members are empowered BY THE STATE (scuzzi for having to shout) to solemnize a legal marriage. And, until the proper paperwork is filed with the local court, the marriage does not exist.

Persisting in error will not make it so.

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Smirks November 20, 2013 at 3:12 pm

This website repeatedly refuses to understand that in this society, the
only marriage that legally exists is one recognized by the state.

I’d like to make an important distinction, though.

Marriage is an individual right, and a person decides based on his/her own beliefs what marriage is. If two (or more) individuals agree to consider themselves married, then by all means they are married in their own eyes. They choose to enforce rules only as it fancies them, although that may not gain recognition in the eyes of religious institutions, or even the government itself.

The significance of involving government is merely to be legally recognized as married and to have laws, rights, benefits, etc., applicable to married persons apply to you and your spouse. Marriage under the law must conform to the rules set forth by whatever entity enforces said law, which is essentially the government. I think it goes without saying that the nature of this country is to apply laws fairly and equally to all persons without discrimination. If that is the case, then laws should cater to the recognition of, as well as the granting of legal rights to, homosexual persons who are married.

The significance of involving a religious institution is merely to exercise your marriage under that institution’s religious guidelines. Marriages under the church must conform to rules set forth by the church, which is usually dictated by how that church interprets whatever holy texts or beliefs they may teach. Again, who applies those restrictions to their marriage? The individual. The church has no right to apply their beliefs on someone, or anyone, not even their own members. The church has every right to refuse recognition of the marriage, or even kick the people out of the church for going against their beliefs, but they hold absolutely no power over the individual.

As for “empowered by the state,” pastors can marry of course, but in SC, so can a notary public. Religion is completely and entirely optional, people, has been for a long time.

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I have ADHD November 20, 2013 at 4:16 pm

Too long.

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Eli Odell Jackson November 23, 2013 at 9:22 am

if you wanna burn below it sure is your option

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FudgePackerAtChocolateMonkey November 20, 2013 at 2:25 pm

I hope they get gay marriage in SC soon. I so want to marry Grand Tango so we can start a family while I’m still young enough.

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Yelsewh November 21, 2013 at 8:38 am

You don’t have to be married to start a family… you should be but you don’t have to. There are plenty of hetero people out there making babies out of wedlock.

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Eli Odell Jackson November 23, 2013 at 9:23 am

that aint a family and that aint right

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9" November 20, 2013 at 2:41 pm

Insanity:Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu4k5sTzxIw

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Jackie Chiles November 20, 2013 at 2:43 pm

I flagged your post as inappropriate because I thought it was an ad for insanity workout videos.

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9" November 20, 2013 at 3:34 pm

chump

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Jackie Chiles November 20, 2013 at 3:50 pm

Excellent post.

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transparency November 20, 2013 at 7:58 pm

Jay makes Alvin Greene look disciplined.

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