Earlier this week The Spartanburg Herald-Journal published a story on county officials bracing for a $4.1 million increase in health care costs for their employees. The article didn’t mention U.S. President Barack Obama’s socialized medicine plan, but this looming insurance-related expenditure could be an early example of Obamacare “rate shock” in South Carolina.
What’s Obamacare “rate shock?”
It’s the grim revelation that this massive federal health care entitlement expansion isn’t going to lower anybody’s health care costs – like Obama promised it would – but will instead send those costs spiking. How high? Well, reports from California indicate increases of 116 percent for 40-year-olds (from $121 to $261) and as much as 123 percent for 24-year-olds (from $92 to $205). Meanwhile the Ohio Department of Insurance announced last week that average premiums in the Buckeye State could soar by as much as 88 percent – from $223 to $420.
Wow …
“Hope and change,” people … “hope and change.”
Anyway, we expect to see lots of headlines like the one coming out of the Spartanburg paper in the coming months as the Palmetto State – like California, Ohio and the rest of the country – confront the sobering reality of socialized medicine.
Like P.J. O’Rourke once said, “if you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it’s free.”
Sadly, we’re all about to find out …
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If you get cancer, get it now before it’s too late. Insurance companies and politicians are crooks and liars. They can blame each other while their wallets get fatter.
lol….we’ve reached an all time low as a country when we are hoping for cancer PRIOR to Obamacare.
If you get cancer, get it now before it’s too late. Insurance companies and politicians are crooks and liars. They can blame each other while their wallets get fatter.
lol….we’ve reached an all time low as a country when we are hoping for cancer PRIOR to Obamacare.
Can’t wait for Obamacare, when I’ll be able to purchase insurance with NO exclusion for my pre-existing conditions.
Yes … YES! Yo-bama is Yo-savior! Errything gone be alrights.
Errybody in da club bees gettin tipsy!!!!
Hells yes. We blacks folks ain’t too good wit writin and shit, but we shoo knows hows how to get our benjamins. What had happened is that the HNC done rolled up and gots me some insurance up in here, aight. Hope that motherfucker covers grills. Gots to get my bling on.
“The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire!
We don’t need no water—Let the motherfucker burn!”
Hell Yes. Let the muthafucka burn bitch
You left out a joke with a reference to fried chicken and watermelon. It would nicely compliment your impression of Ebonics.
Yes.. YES! Let’s go back to the good ole days of George W. Bush.
Hankel, Really? You can’t wait?
What exactly are you waiting for?
The pre-existing conditions part of this law kicked in almost a year ago!
Pull your lips off Obamas rear end and take a look around.
ObamaCare = Socialized Medicine
Churchill:
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
Dude, the pre-existing conditions part doesn’t fully kick in until 2014. Look it up. Only part of it is effective right now.
Correct. The pre-existing condition part for children has kicked in. The one for adults doesn’t kick in until 2014. And the people with those conditions – millions of children and adults – will have significantly lower healthcare costs because of this law.
Also, look up the definition of socialism, FITS. Obamacare ain’t it, as much as you’d like to mislabel it, but keep making yourself look stupid.
Instead of cherry-picking a few short-term instances and presenting them as a nationwide result, you might want to read the reports about all the insurance companies that have filed to compete in the exchanges (which will become operational in October). Competition for insurance companies will equal lower prices in the long run. Basic economics, son, look it up.
if that is basic economics, then I’m guessing you failed economics.
I love the quote. Nobody speaks to me like a scion of landed aristocracy.
“scion of landed aristocracy”
Haha! You and I agree for once.
I guess it was bound to happen. Churchill was a duplicitous bastard and not worthy of all the praise via WW2 lore heaped on him.
My wife’s grandmother, who lived until 1 week before 92(and would have lived much longer if not for an accident) commented once over the dinner table on Churchill:
“Every time I see a new born baby I can’t get that bastard’s big bald head out of my thoughts.”
Can’t wait for Obamacare, when I’ll be able to purchase insurance with NO exclusion for my pre-existing conditions.
Yes … YES! Yo-bama is Yo-savior! Errything gone be alrights.
Errybody in da club bees gettin tipsy!!!!
Hells yes. We blacks folks ain’t too good wit writin and shit, but we shoo knows hows how to get our benjamins. What had happened is that the HNC done rolled up and gots me some insurance up in here, aight. Hope that motherfucker covers grills. Gots to get my bling on.
“The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire!
We don’t need no water—Let the motherfucker burn!”
Hell Yes. Let the muthafucka burn bitch
You left out a joke with a reference to fried chicken and watermelon. It would nicely compliment your impression of Ebonics.
Yes.. YES! Let’s go back to the good ole days of George W. Bush.
Hankel, Really? You can’t wait?
What exactly are you waiting for?
The pre-existing conditions part of this law kicked in almost a year ago!
Pull your lips off Obamas rear end and take a look around.
ObamaCare = Socialized Medicine
Churchill:
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
Dude, the pre-existing conditions part doesn’t fully kick in until 2014. Look it up. Only part of it is effective right now.
Correct. The pre-existing condition part for children has kicked in. The one for adults doesn’t kick in until 2014. And the people with those conditions – millions of children and adults – will have significantly lower healthcare costs because of this law.
Also, look up the definition of socialism, FITS. Obamacare ain’t it, as much as you’d like to mislabel it, but keep making yourself look stupid.
Instead of cherry-picking a few short-term instances and presenting them as a nationwide result, you might want to read the reports about all the insurance companies that have filed to compete in the exchanges (which will become operational in October). Competition for insurance companies will equal lower prices in the long run. Basic economics, son, look it up.
I love the quote. Nobody speaks to me like a scion of landed aristocracy.
“scion of landed aristocracy”
Haha! You and I agree for once.
I guess it was bound to happen. Churchill was a duplicitous bastard and not worthy of all the praise via WW2 lore heaped on him.
My wife’s grandmother, who lived until 1 week before 92(and would have lived much longer if not for an accident) commented once over the dinner table on Churchill:
“Every time I see a new born baby I can’t get that bastard’s big bald head out of my thoughts.”
Sheet me lus me som bobama cares. Skeets skeets!!
Sheet me lus me som bobama cares. Skeets skeets!!
Oh, so the insurance companies increasing their rates is Obama’s fault?? HAHAHAHA!! That’s funny!!
They are gouging because the government will be subsidizing most low income coverage. Greed as usual!!
Yeah, so my insurance rates through my employer have gone up to over 200% of what they were just 4 years ago – that’s essentially 25% increase year over year from teh amount four years ago. So it is really expected to go up MORE quickly under Obamacare? Rate schock? Show hands for the past 4 years anyone whose healthcare is not subsidized already that has gone down???? Anyone?
P.S. I am healthy person in my mid 30’s who broke a two 5 years go, and that’s it….
broke a toe.
You must have terrible insurance. Mine didn’t go up by 25%. Mine went up $45 in the past 5 years. Obamacare doesn’t cover being a moron.
Yes! It’s the result of ObamaCare!!!
If a new law passed that required all car insurance companies to provide 2 free preventive care oil changes per year, free tire replacement every 2 years, and to pay for all hose, belts, and brake ‘preventive care’ cost. Then raised taxes on the auto parts and sales industry to subsidize low income drivers. . . . Do you think your car insurance premiums would go up or down? Exactly!!! Why do you think it’s different for health insurance?
Oh, so the insurance companies increasing their rates is Obama’s fault?? HAHAHAHA!! That’s funny!!
They are gouging because the government will be subsidizing most low income coverage. Greed as usual!!
Yeah, so my insurance rates through my employer have gone up to over 200% of what they were just 4 years ago – that’s essentially 25% increase year over year from teh amount four years ago. So it is really expected to go up MORE quickly under Obamacare? Rate schock? Show hands for the past 4 years anyone whose healthcare is not subsidized already that has gone down???? Anyone?
P.S. I am healthy person in my mid 30’s who broke a two 5 years go, and that’s it….
broke a toe.
Yes! It’s the result of ObamaCare!!!
If a new law passed that required all car insurance companies to provide 2 free preventive care oil changes per year, free tire replacement every 2 years, and to pay for all hose, belts, and brake ‘preventive care’ cost. Then raised taxes on the auto parts and sales industry to subsidize low income drivers. . . . Do you think your car insurance premiums would go up or down? Exactly!!! Why do you think it’s different for health insurance?
We warned about this back when Hillary proposed the same thing: The only people who will be able to afford Obamacare will be the people who don’t have to pay for it.
Yep, my summation to a rabid supporter of Obamacare in my last debate on the topic here at Fits around its passing was “Well, I can’t wait for insurance costs to fall under Obamacare.”
lol…I’m friggin Carnac the Magnificent.
:)
Even funnier is watching all the gov’t cheerleaders blame the insurance companies. It’s like 1+1 doesn’t equal 2 to them.
Well, since you referenced Carnac, I shall say, “You are CORRECT, sir!”
We warned about this back when Hillary proposed the same thing: The only people who will be able to afford Obamacare will be the people who don’t have to pay for it.
Yep, my summation to a rabid supporter of Obamacare in my last debate on the topic here at Fits around its passing was “Well, I can’t wait for insurance costs to fall under Obamacare.”
lol…I’m friggin Carnac the Magnificent.
:)
Even funnier is watching all the gov’t cheerleaders blame the insurance companies. It’s like 1+1 doesn’t equal 2 to them.
Well, since you referenced Carnac, I shall say, “You are CORRECT, sir!”
I have a relative with cancer…she gets PET scans every 6 months—she has obtained them regularly x 6 years…her insurance just denied her oncologist’ s recent request for a PET scan for the fist time. Ever….isn’t Obamacare grand? Thanks Democrats….
And what is even more outrageous is that your relative’s situation was precisely what medicaid was created to help with, so your relatives would not go bankrupt, paying forever for the treatment. This is what has now been erased by Obamacare, along with 80 billion dollars more Medicare items which have already been paid for by contributions from you and me.
So tell me how Obamacare erases medicaid. I’d love to hear it, because it doesn’t. The program will still exist – in fact, there’s that whole “medicaid expansion” thing that’s been in the news lately – perhaps you missed that. Oh! You must be talking about how some governors and state legislatures (including the ones in SC) are refusing the federal money to expand state medicaid systems. Yeah, that’s not Obamacare – that’s on those GOP govs and legislatures.
There used to be a segment on Saturday Night Live called “Popular Knowledge.” You would have done well on that segment.
Rather than argue with invincible ignorance, I’m going to let current events answer you. Meet me back here in a year. At that time you can give all of us your physical home address.
Because, you don’t know.
Puke, there can’t be any other possibe explanation, gotta be Obamacare.
Yep…just had to pass it so we could then “find out what’s in it.”…Now my mom isn’t getting the cancer care she needs…Thanks
Democrats!
I have a relative with cancer…she gets PET scans every 6 months—she has obtained them regularly x 6 years…her insurance just denied her oncologist’ s recent request for a PET scan for the fist time. Ever….isn’t Obamacare grand? Thanks Democrats….
And what is even more outrageous is that your relative’s situation was precisely what medicaid was created to help with, so your relatives would not go bankrupt, paying forever for the treatment. This is what has now been erased by Obamacare, along with 80 billion dollars more Medicare items which have already been paid for by contributions from you and me.
So tell me how Obamacare erases medicaid. I’d love to hear it, because it doesn’t. The program will still exist – in fact, there’s that whole “medicaid expansion” thing that’s been in the news lately – perhaps you missed that. Oh! You must be talking about how some governors and state legislatures (including the ones in SC) are refusing the federal money to expand state medicaid systems. Yeah, that’s not Obamacare – that’s on those GOP govs and legislatures.
There used to be a segment on Saturday Night Live called “Popular Knowledge.” You would have done well on that segment.
Rather than argue with invincible ignorance, I’m going to let current events answer you. Meet me back here in a year. At that time you can give all of us your physical home address.
Because, you don’t know.
Puke, there can’t be any other possibe explanation, gotta be Obamacare.
Yep…just had to pass it so we could then “find out what’s in it.”…Now my mom isn’t getting the cancer care she needs…Thanks
Democrats!
My 80-year-old mother-in-law’s pain doctor (she had back surgery in August of 2012), stated to her on her last appointment nearly a month ago, that he was retiring. He is ABSOLUTELY disgusted with ObamaCare. He informed her that her last day of seeing him would be in early August this year, and after that, he was retiring. He’s absolutely disgusted at the way the medical field is being manipulated by the current reigning government. That’s highly unfortunate. He’s the best doctor and former surgeon for the therapy that she needs, and we hate to lose him because of some jackasses who can’t see the forest for the trees. And it’s only the beginning.
Oh, so one doctor who doesn’t like the law means it’s bad. Nope. That’s what’s called an anecdote. And of course there is no chance of any political bias on his art or other reasons why he might be retiring…
Perhaps you should talk to all the docs who do support the law – the ones who want to help poor people in rural health clinics, for example, and the ones with the SC Hospital Association who fought and testified in front of the legislature to try to get the state to accept the medicaid expansion money. That may not be a scientific survey, but it’s a much better sampling than your mom’s one doctor. Learn some statistics.
U mean those actors who were given white coats to stand beside the prezzie? If Obamacare is so wonderful, why did the prezzie lie so many times to the American people, and why did the prezzie and Congress exempt THEMSELVES from Obamacare? Hmm…
No, “Because” is talking about the doctors who testified in front of the SC legislature, which eventually declined Medicaid expansion. They were actual SC doctors who testified for the reasons Because gave. Watch out, your bias is clouding your reading comprehension.
Funny, I work in the medical field with 3 other docs and a PA…and I don’t know any docs who believe that Obamacare will improve our health care quality or cost…and I work in primary care…not an anecdote..
Obamacare may not improve cost or quality on its own but that was not the primary purpose of it. It was designed to improve access to care and for those states that expand Medicaid, it will. As for the few doctors who don’t support it, remember the majority did. The doctors organization, the AMA supported Obamacare and lobbied for it.
“Obamacare may not improve cost or quality on its own but that was not the primary purpose of it. It was designed to improve access to care”
That’s some truth right there and a small peek at a socialist philosophy.
“We don’t care that the gov’t program we funded with your money sucks, now everyone can get sucky service instead of many of you that had decent service.”
In other words, they are happier when everyone is in the shit hole of poor service instead of just 15%-30% of the population.
As long as those 15%-30% are covered, everything is fine & justifiable. Screw the 70-85%.
I know of 4 doctors
My 80-year-old mother-in-law’s pain doctor (she had back surgery in August of 2012), stated to her on her last appointment nearly a month ago, that he was retiring. He is ABSOLUTELY disgusted with ObamaCare. He informed her that her last day of seeing him would be in early August this year, and after that, he was retiring. He’s absolutely disgusted at the way the medical field is being manipulated by the current reigning government. That’s highly unfortunate. He’s the best doctor and former surgeon for the therapy that she needs, and we hate to lose him because of some jackasses who can’t see the forest for the trees. And it’s only the beginning.
Oh, so one doctor who doesn’t like the law means it’s bad. Nope. That’s what’s called an anecdote. And of course there is no chance of any political bias on his art or other reasons why he might be retiring…
Perhaps you should talk to all the docs who do support the law – the ones who want to help poor people in rural health clinics, for example, and the ones with the SC Hospital Association who fought and testified in front of the legislature to try to get the state to accept the medicaid expansion money. That may not be a scientific survey, but it’s a much better sampling than your mom’s one doctor. Learn some statistics.
U mean those actors who were given white coats to stand beside the prezzie? If Obamacare is so wonderful, why did the prezzie lie so many times to the American people, and why did the prezzie and Congress exempt THEMSELVES from Obamacare? Hmm…
No, “Because” is talking about the doctors who testified in front of the SC legislature, which eventually declined Medicaid expansion. They were actual SC doctors who testified for the reasons Because gave. Watch out, your bias is clouding your reading comprehension.
Funny, I work in the medical field with 3 other docs and a PA…and I don’t know any docs who believe that Obamacare will improve our health care quality or cost…and I work in primary care…not an anecdote..
Obamacare may not improve cost or quality on its own but that was not the primary purpose of it. It was designed to improve access to care and for those states that expand Medicaid, it will. As for the few doctors who don’t support it, remember the majority did. The doctors organization, the AMA supported Obamacare and lobbied for it.
“Obamacare may not improve cost or quality on its own but that was not the primary purpose of it. It was designed to improve access to care”
That’s some truth right there and a small peek at a socialist philosophy.
“We don’t care that the gov’t program we funded with your money sucks, now everyone can get sucky service instead of many of you that had decent service.”
In other words, they are happier when everyone is in the shit hole of poor service instead of just 15%-30% of the population.
As long as those 15%-30% are covered, everything is fine & justifiable. Screw the 70-85%.
This fits article is not accurate. CNN Money just posted an article about health exchange rates in California. They have determined “Obamacare” will be extremely affordable.under the healthcare exchanges…more than they expected. People do your research, and read this article.
This fits article is not accurate. CNN Money just posted an article about health exchange rates in California. They have determined “Obamacare” will be extremely affordable.under the healthcare exchanges…more than they expected. People do your research, and read this article.
I’m sure this crack journalistic site will inquire why the rates are up. Get quotes from insurence companies to justify the increase. We all know these companies would never just raise rates because they can. I’m sure profits are way down. “Rates are up because of Obamacare!” Why.
Of course profits aren’t down, but you fail to attribute the proper reasoning to why the insurance companies can raise their rates. They are in bed with gov’t, it’s a huge crony capitalist event.
Hell, the insurance and pharma companies helped craft the bill.
If it was a true free market none of this shit would be happening.
I’m sure this crack journalistic site will inquire why the rates are up. Get quotes from insurence companies to justify the increase. We all know these companies would never just raise rates because they can. I’m sure profits are way down. “Rates are up because of Obamacare!” Why.
Of course profits aren’t down, but you fail to attribute the proper reasoning to why the insurance companies can raise their rates. They are in bed with gov’t, it’s a huge crony capitalist event.
Hell, the insurance and pharma companies helped craft the bill.
If it was a true free market none of this shit would be happening.
$261! Where do I sign up?
Pay more than twice that now with no preexisting except high blood pressure.
Lay off the racist banter Folks. Lots of people will be better off than what we have now with Obamacare. It isn’t just about you and the Obama haters.
Dummy
did you check the deductible?
$261! Where do I sign up?
Pay more than twice that now with no preexisting except high blood pressure.
Lay off the racist banter Folks. Lots of people will be better off than what we have now with Obamacare. It isn’t just about you and the Obama haters.
Dummy
My insurance is going down and I have a preexisting, I will no longer have a lifetime cutoff, preventative treatments are free (oh the humanity). Obamacare will go down in history as the boldest event in this generation. 10 years from now you will be bitching about someone trying to take it away. I’d like to share one thing I’ve learned in my advancing years is to never assume someone is a dumbass because of thier race, gender, nationality, state, or sexuality. Blog posts are another story.
My insurance is going down and I have a preexisting, I will no longer have a lifetime cutoff, preventative treatments are free (oh the humanity). Obamacare will go down in history as the boldest event in this generation. 10 years from now you will be bitching about someone trying to take it away. I’d like to share one thing I’ve learned in my advancing years is to never assume someone is a dumbass because of thier race, gender, nationality, state, or sexuality. Blog posts are another story.
If you think this country’s in bad shape now, just wait til I get through with it!” – Rufus T. Firefly, President of Fredonia, Marxist model for Hussein Obama, Jr.
It isn’t that the doctor and hospital side price is going up, it is that Obamacare administrators must be paid and must have expensive training, like the million dollar IRS-capades and must have benefits and must have blood, must be fresh…
If you think this country’s in bad shape now, just wait til I get through with it!” – Rufus T. Firefly, President of Fredonia, Marxist model for Hussein Obama, Jr.
It isn’t that the doctor and hospital side price is going up, it is that Obamacare administrators must be paid and must have expensive training, like the million dollar IRS-capades and must have benefits and must have blood, must be fresh…
Obamacare is Comradecare … like in USSR. Rationed care for all.
Obamacare is Comradecare … like in USSR. Rationed care for all.
Please, those opposed to health care reform, give us an alternative plan that doesn’t maintain the status quo. The fact that the US government can’t provide health insurance to every citizen is insane. These same politicians have no problem with THEIR gov’t supplied health insurance.
Please, those opposed to health care reform, give us an alternative plan that doesn’t maintain the status quo. The fact that the US government can’t provide health insurance to every citizen is insane. These same politicians have no problem with THEIR gov’t supplied health insurance.
Obama care will help low income families that don’t qualify for Medicaid now cause there slightly over the income
Obama care will help low income families that don’t qualify for Medicaid now cause there slightly over the income
http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/17/news/economy/obamacare-health-insurance-new-york/index.html
http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/17/news/economy/obamacare-health-insurance-new-york/index.html
Lies, damn lies and statistics, be careful when reading numbers and what they compare. My son has already received a health insurance rebate because of the ACA.
Lies, damn lies and statistics, be careful when reading numbers and what they compare. My son has already received a health insurance rebate because of the ACA.