Another Old Ship? Not With Our Tax Dollars!
GROUP WANTS TO RELOCATE BATTLESHIP IN PORT ROYAL, S.C. A group of Lowcountry residents are trying toYou must Subscribe or log in to read the rest of this content.
GROUP WANTS TO RELOCATE BATTLESHIP IN PORT ROYAL, S.C.
A group of Lowcountry residents are trying to
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The USS New Jersey park is right accross the river from the Olympia.
Well,
It is the last ship of its type (sister ship to the Maine – if I’m not mistaken).
I have become interested in the Spainish-American War era after reading the book and watching the movie “The Road to Wellville”(partly made in Wilmington) of all things
So in cases like this I think federal money should help (with private donations of course).
The Hunley is of no-shit historical significance and needs to be considered a national object of major historical significance.
Damned if I would want to see the ‘Memphis Belle” with a “sponsored by McDonalds” banner hanging below the cockpit!!!
Let’s let McDonald’s or Budweiser go ahead and sponsor the Arizona memorial or Arlington national Cemetary while we’re at it
I’m a military historian who likes nothing better than spending a few hours clambering over a warship or a battlefield but this is a bad idea
The Olympia is a one off with no sister ships. She needs a minimum of $30,000,000 worth of work to be moved and displayed. She was Dewey’s flagship at the Battle of Manila Bay. Her last claim to fame was bringing the “unknown soldier” home from WWI after having served as the flagship for US Naval forces during the war. Her only SC link is that she served as a decommissioned barracks ship in Charleston from 1912-1916.
She’d be better off being made into a reef.
“The Colonel” is a fool.
Last one left means just that.
It would be a travisty to sink the only warship of the Spainish-American War (so shamelessly hawked by Herst & other jingoists -& made that bullshit cooked up by the Bush II administration look small time).
I’m for keeping her afloat or drydocked like the destroyer beside the USS Constitution – which Iguess with FITS &
Colonel’s logic should be sunk as a reef also.
” Haul on that bowline – we sang that melody
Like all tough sailors do – when we’re far away at sea”
Well, I wish them luck! It appears to be a private group trying to fundraise for this project.
At first I thought Beaufort was a terrible spot for this, but then I realized all the potential visitors who descend on the area during Parris Island Marine graduations. I’m sure many of them would be interested in something like this. It would be awesome if this works out.
It seems like it might be a good mix with Paris Island but the Marine Corps has already firmly rejected a “co – sponsorship ” as being unworkable.
As for families going to Paris Island, most families show up, spend as much time with Joe or Molly as possible, go to graduation and then get on the road. Even in Philadelphia the ship has only drawn 80,000 visitors a year and that’s with the Independence Seaport Museum as a draw. The Spanish American War lacks the sexieness of WWII and compared to the USS North Carolina the Olympia pales in comparison. “The Showboat has more than a 250,000 visitors each year and still scrapes and begs for money. They plan to use her berth as a drydock to begin major hull work this year tonsave the cost of towing her to Norfolk or Charleston for repairs.
Seriously,if it goes anywhere, it should go to Portland,Oregan if it they can tow her up the river that far.
Damnit I ment Seattle or Bremmerton, Washington.
Sorry for the geographical error!!!!!
MY bad!!!!!
Don’t worry about restoring the good ole USS of A (or SC)….screw the obligations, save the war relics! It’ll give someplace for the old timers who aren’t getting infation adjusted payments in their SS to go to when they get depressed.
Let’s rename the USSA to the USS Titanic and not worry about salvaging her fiscal rudder.
There are more important things afoot, like taking Philadelphia’s floating garbage off their hands with some Federal printed up dollars and some of SC’s few remaining taxpayers money too, in the hope of making another war glorifying family fun park.
Insanity.
Let’s trade Joe Wilson for the ship. Wait. . .they alrady traded Joe Wilson away. Lexington, Richland and Aiken now have his sorry ass all to themselves. Shit. . .
SC is a shit location for naval history exhibits because it is poor. Yorktown is simply too complex for preservation afloat, and too large for dragging ashore as can be done with much smaller vessels like submarines.
Screw history. Who gives a shit about what happened yesterday. If we make a museum out of this relic some Spanish or Filipino group will say it “pains” them to look at it and we damn sure don’t want to offend anybody. If you want History just watch the History Channel.
Down in the low country, Beaufort already has the Kazoo Musical Museum. ( I ain’t kidding folks) The kazoo ai’nt never hurt anyone. The sound of freedom shouldn’t be from jets, guns, or battleships it should be coming from kazoos, accordions, and ukuleles.
Someone told me Old Bike Dude is a greeter and ticket tearer at the Kazoo Museum on the weekends. I got to get down there and meet him.
“If you want history, just watch the History Channel”
That was true about 5 years ago but now days the “History Channel” ain’t worth a shit.
“History 2” (f you can get it – channel 271 on DirecTV) is OK as is the Military Channel (DirecTV ch. 287) but it ain’t as good as the old “History Channel”
Just like everything else, a bunch of “suits” decided to go for the lowest common denominator and went cheap because “Pawn Stars” or “Ice Road Truckers” is cheaper to produce and dumbasses want to watch it (neither of which have nothing to do with history – unless someone says Bubba trying to pawn off a clone of a musket is history which is pure bullshit).
Fucking beancounters.
Sparkle City re History Channel, Right on! They should re-name it Shit Channel!
Speaking of Ice Road Truckers. Next weekend, in Columbia, is the monthly Gun and Knife Show. 12/08 – 12/09. Pork Chop from Ice Road Truckers is gonna be there. He’s from Lugoff Elgin area. Come on down and pay us a visit, Sparkle City.
Long live the USSA!
… where’s my check?
And I’m a fool?
I don’t know why she is called a battleship in the article… she’s not. The Olympia (C-6, later C-15)was a “heavy cruiser” (a “protected” cruiser, albeit) and properly named after a State Capital (prior to the changes in warship nomenclature made after WW2). She is 344 feet long and displaces an average of only 6000 tons +/-. The “Battleships” of the era [like the South Carolina (BB26)] were named after the states. The South Carolina (built 1908) and the Olympia (built 1888) were contemporaries and both saw service in WW1. The battleship South Carolina was 453 feet long, and displaced 16000 tons – a little more than 2 1/2 times heavier than the Olympia. The South Carolina’s main armament was 8 12-inch guns, and that of the Olympia, only 4 8-inch guns (which were later replaced by longer barrelled, but smaller caliber 5-inchers.
A considerable difference in size and armament.
Second observation – both had the same shaped prow — later abandoned with the “modern design” battleship and cruisers. GRANTED: the Olympia really is the last of the 19th century warships, and should be preserved for posterity — Mare Island apparently has the real answer – drag her out of the water and make her a land display. I am no engineer, but I think “we” (SC) might consider trying to get her down here (with flotation devices if necessary, rather than spending $10 million plus to ‘patch’ her)and tie her up to a dock like the Queen Mary I in Long Beach, and fill a caisson with concrete to make sure she will never sink. Maybe we also ought to consider this for the Laffey and the Yorktown, as we have a wonderful cement plant at Holly Hill — only about an hour from Charleston and an hour and a half from Beaufort (and the railroads go to both places to haul the bulk cement).
Just what south carolina needs. another old leaky war ship it cannot aford to maintain. #crazy