Since when are you on the side of Quarles and Fant, a couple of race hustlers who never have anything good to say about Greenville law enforcement?
And Shea is right-wing zealot. Her type generally has nothing good to say about Greenville, which is generally more accepting and open to non-facists then the surrounding county. Ignore her.
Hate to tell you but Quarles is absolutely correct, the Greenville PD has terrible leadership. The current chief was the former chiefs (Ken Miller /google him) hand picked successor. They ran off every competent commander at the PD and replaced them with DEI sycophants and wannabe beauty queens. Why does a PD need an LBGTQ+ liaison who works directly for the chief ? Maybe the Trump administration needs to pull federal funds from Greenville since they continue to the discriminatory practice of DEI.
It’s not just downtown, It’s in the suburbs and neighborhoods around Greenville. Crime has been steadily rising. Criminals just blatantly in broad daylight and plain sight of others are walking into yards, garages, and breaking in cars without a care. You call the police and they just shrug and mumble “duh, whadda want me to do about it”.
Then there’s the city and county leader just giving developers free reign to destroy what was once a nice area, most likely for a fee of course. It’s no longer ‘Green’ ville but Uglyville with all the cheap concrete pad homes and neighborhoods.
I walk daily downtown and Ms. Limnos and Ms. Shea are completely correct about the situation. My daily walk consists of getting asked for money, hearing someone screaming profanities at themselves or another person. Just the other day, I saw two people sleeping outside businesses. I fear for my safety, especially with people who have mental illness.
Anonymous above is completely correct too. All city leaders, Fountain Inn, where I live just are out to make money. They are turning our small, quaint city into a commercialized entity, bringing in all these chain restaurants and a chain hotel, which is out of place considering our downtown is all local-owned business. I blame crime on all the transplants that are moving here.
A one-time great town, became popular, the area grew, politicians saw a chance to gain power and make money. To continue the growth (and corresponding wealth and power), politicians moved to make the town even more popular, liberalizing the rules and “welcoming all”. Suddenly, one day, those who had lived there “forever” realized that the town isn’t what it was and moved away. Meanwhile, liberalization continued in an effort to “hush up” some of the unseemly things going on. Soon even the transplants realized that things weren’t as great as they were or as advertised and they began to move away. Only people left were the uber wealthy and those trapped by their economic condition (including the drug addicts and homeless – though they’ll eventually leave as well, see Detroit).
I used to love G’ville, though its “coolness” has worn off and the failures of a libertine society are showing through. I have an uber wealthy friend who lives in the heart of downtown in a very secure building but even he sees the issues these days. If we just could have prevented the Cliffs from gaining a foothold north of Hwy 11…
So is it time to send in the 82nd Airborne yet? This sounds like a wartorn city to me. In fact, should they just take over the entire state? After all, SC’s violent crime rate is higher than California’s or New York’s. Why aren’t Mace, Norman, and Wilson calling for the troops? Why aren’t Trump and Hegseth helping deep-red South Carolina instead of wasting all our money helping blue states?
Nothing brings law and order like soldiers in the streets with machine guns. There is a lot less crime in Russia and China.
When you elect liberal democrats who control city council this is what you get. Pair that with a neutered police department that makes Ashevilles police look tough on crime and you get what you have. It won’t get any better, one of the lone conservative voices on council was vilified when he suggested a sensible plan to address the homeless issue. All of the country club moms who continually whine about all of the “issues” need to look in the mirror because they are the ones who voted the libs and their feel good policies in
CongareeCatfish Top fanAugust 20, 2025 at 10:20 am
The comparison to Asheville should be the wake-up call. Its staring Greenville right in the face. It was once a favorite destination for so many of us 20 yeas ago. Now there are zoned out druggies everywhere, litter everywhere except perhaps the main drag downtown, and rampant property crime. Now we just pass through Ashville entirely to head further west to Bryson City, or go to Hendersonville.
Laurie Quattlebaum Top fanAugust 20, 2025 at 10:27 am
Some suspect that the fights (which have mostly taken place in the early morning hours) are largely staged for social media views. And the homelessness seems to pale in comparison to what I see in Columbia. This seems to be a South Carolina – not just Greenville – problem. Perhaps some of our brilliant gubernatorial candidates have some thoughts?
Many/most are mentally ill in addition to being drug addicts and they do not want anyone telling them what to do. “Homes” have rules and most don’t want to follow them.
Didn’t Fox News Anchor Brian Kilmeade have the answer to this problem? Just give them lethal injections? Problem solved. Isn’t this what a strong leader would do? It costs significantly less than housing them and providing mental health treatment. They are just scum or foreign vermin. We need a final solution.
R. Jason Forister Top fanAugust 20, 2025 at 10:51 am
We still have the absolute worst way of viewing ‘homelessness’ as though it is some affliction affecting the poor, poor victims of poverty. 95% of it is not. The homeless in America are not ‘victims’. 95% of ‘homelessness’ is a drug-user lifestyle choice, to wander around all day, pee on the sidewalk, beg for money, get high, eat lunch at all the ‘homeless’ ‘helping’ churches and organizations, do more drugs until they pass out on a bench in some park – wake up and repeat. Governments think it is a social problem that money can solve, yet the more money they send to ‘fight homelessness’ the more of it we get. All government needs to do is enforce the law and hold people accountable for their actions. I say again, the homeless in America are not victims of anything other than maybe drug-induced mental illness. If a person cannot make it (financially) in the USA, especially in a thriving urban area like Greenville, then I don’t think that person can make it anywhere. Just go to a third world country – any third world country – if you want to see real homelessness and poverty.
Seems to be common in cities where the leadership seems bent on turning the downtown districts into “Olympic villages”…without the athletes. The shine wears off, the prices go up, and the crowds grow. But not the same demographics as before. We live in Spartanburg but used to go to Greenville and decided it’s not worth the hassle. Unfortunately, Spartanburg is fulfilling its “Greenville Envy” fantasies with the corresponding problems.
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Since when are you on the side of Quarles and Fant, a couple of race hustlers who never have anything good to say about Greenville law enforcement?
And Shea is right-wing zealot. Her type generally has nothing good to say about Greenville, which is generally more accepting and open to non-facists then the surrounding county. Ignore her.
Hate to tell you but Quarles is absolutely correct, the Greenville PD has terrible leadership. The current chief was the former chiefs (Ken Miller /google him) hand picked successor. They ran off every competent commander at the PD and replaced them with DEI sycophants and wannabe beauty queens. Why does a PD need an LBGTQ+ liaison who works directly for the chief ? Maybe the Trump administration needs to pull federal funds from Greenville since they continue to the discriminatory practice of DEI.
It’s not just downtown, It’s in the suburbs and neighborhoods around Greenville. Crime has been steadily rising. Criminals just blatantly in broad daylight and plain sight of others are walking into yards, garages, and breaking in cars without a care. You call the police and they just shrug and mumble “duh, whadda want me to do about it”.
Then there’s the city and county leader just giving developers free reign to destroy what was once a nice area, most likely for a fee of course. It’s no longer ‘Green’ ville but Uglyville with all the cheap concrete pad homes and neighborhoods.
I walk daily downtown and Ms. Limnos and Ms. Shea are completely correct about the situation. My daily walk consists of getting asked for money, hearing someone screaming profanities at themselves or another person. Just the other day, I saw two people sleeping outside businesses. I fear for my safety, especially with people who have mental illness.
Anonymous above is completely correct too. All city leaders, Fountain Inn, where I live just are out to make money. They are turning our small, quaint city into a commercialized entity, bringing in all these chain restaurants and a chain hotel, which is out of place considering our downtown is all local-owned business. I blame crime on all the transplants that are moving here.
This is everyday in downtown Columbia.
Yeah, the transplants did it. ?
This political drivel not news.
A one-time great town, became popular, the area grew, politicians saw a chance to gain power and make money. To continue the growth (and corresponding wealth and power), politicians moved to make the town even more popular, liberalizing the rules and “welcoming all”. Suddenly, one day, those who had lived there “forever” realized that the town isn’t what it was and moved away. Meanwhile, liberalization continued in an effort to “hush up” some of the unseemly things going on. Soon even the transplants realized that things weren’t as great as they were or as advertised and they began to move away. Only people left were the uber wealthy and those trapped by their economic condition (including the drug addicts and homeless – though they’ll eventually leave as well, see Detroit).
I used to love G’ville, though its “coolness” has worn off and the failures of a libertine society are showing through. I have an uber wealthy friend who lives in the heart of downtown in a very secure building but even he sees the issues these days. If we just could have prevented the Cliffs from gaining a foothold north of Hwy 11…
So is it time to send in the 82nd Airborne yet? This sounds like a wartorn city to me. In fact, should they just take over the entire state? After all, SC’s violent crime rate is higher than California’s or New York’s. Why aren’t Mace, Norman, and Wilson calling for the troops? Why aren’t Trump and Hegseth helping deep-red South Carolina instead of wasting all our money helping blue states?
Nothing brings law and order like soldiers in the streets with machine guns. There is a lot less crime in Russia and China.
When you elect liberal democrats who control city council this is what you get. Pair that with a neutered police department that makes Ashevilles police look tough on crime and you get what you have. It won’t get any better, one of the lone conservative voices on council was vilified when he suggested a sensible plan to address the homeless issue. All of the country club moms who continually whine about all of the “issues” need to look in the mirror because they are the ones who voted the libs and their feel good policies in
The comparison to Asheville should be the wake-up call. Its staring Greenville right in the face. It was once a favorite destination for so many of us 20 yeas ago. Now there are zoned out druggies everywhere, litter everywhere except perhaps the main drag downtown, and rampant property crime. Now we just pass through Ashville entirely to head further west to Bryson City, or go to Hendersonville.
Some suspect that the fights (which have mostly taken place in the early morning hours) are largely staged for social media views. And the homelessness seems to pale in comparison to what I see in Columbia. This seems to be a South Carolina – not just Greenville – problem. Perhaps some of our brilliant gubernatorial candidates have some thoughts?
Why not develop a plan to help these folks find “beds” somewhere other than the streets?
Many/most are mentally ill in addition to being drug addicts and they do not want anyone telling them what to do. “Homes” have rules and most don’t want to follow them.
JAMA says the number of homeless who are mentally ill is probably around 65%+
Didn’t Fox News Anchor Brian Kilmeade have the answer to this problem? Just give them lethal injections? Problem solved. Isn’t this what a strong leader would do? It costs significantly less than housing them and providing mental health treatment. They are just scum or foreign vermin. We need a final solution.
We still have the absolute worst way of viewing ‘homelessness’ as though it is some affliction affecting the poor, poor victims of poverty. 95% of it is not. The homeless in America are not ‘victims’. 95% of ‘homelessness’ is a drug-user lifestyle choice, to wander around all day, pee on the sidewalk, beg for money, get high, eat lunch at all the ‘homeless’ ‘helping’ churches and organizations, do more drugs until they pass out on a bench in some park – wake up and repeat. Governments think it is a social problem that money can solve, yet the more money they send to ‘fight homelessness’ the more of it we get. All government needs to do is enforce the law and hold people accountable for their actions. I say again, the homeless in America are not victims of anything other than maybe drug-induced mental illness. If a person cannot make it (financially) in the USA, especially in a thriving urban area like Greenville, then I don’t think that person can make it anywhere. Just go to a third world country – any third world country – if you want to see real homelessness and poverty.
Seems to be common in cities where the leadership seems bent on turning the downtown districts into “Olympic villages”…without the athletes. The shine wears off, the prices go up, and the crowds grow. But not the same demographics as before. We live in Spartanburg but used to go to Greenville and decided it’s not worth the hassle. Unfortunately, Spartanburg is fulfilling its “Greenville Envy” fantasies with the corresponding problems.
Spartanburg, are you paying attention?