There are even more serious issues into which, Duffie Stone, the AG, and the courts should be conducting more investigations, specially into that juror who, according to Becky “Boo” Hill’s book, pages 58-60 got “thousands of dollars” from unnamed friends to stay on the jury instead of returning to work and getting replaced by an alternate.
Respectfully and succinctly, jury service (like voting) is NOT by conscription.
No one should be making money off voting or off jury service; nor should jury service be a paid vacation from a job.
The only possible non-corruptible (or less corruptible) way is some law for employers to grant employees paid leave for CONFIRMED jury service, which many civic-minded employers do anyway.
But what has happened here is WAY beyond the pale no matter how much lipstick is put on that pig.
Yes, you have to respond to a jury summons. But there are several mandatory and discretionary exemptions.
All that juror had to say at the initial jury selection OR as the trial went on was that jury service would impose a financial hardship on him.
Then that juror would have been excused from jury service to begin with OR he would have been replaced by an alternate. There were six alternates available. That is what alternates are for.
But for a juror to receive outside one, in the “thousands of dollars,” from unknown people is unheard of, at least by me.
I regret that you do not see this as an issue at all; but I am shocked to my core that it happened and even more shocked that Becky “Boo” Hill bragged about it.
Will, I will be reaching out to you tomorrow to suggest a retraction on some false information you are purporting as fact hiding behind the word “allegedly”. I’m a little surprised since you have my contact information you would not reach out for a comment from my wife who will refute what your unhinged, potty mouth friend is saying and you are taking as fact. By the way Lawyer Lori did not use the word allegedly yet you linked her segment. You are a party to her slander. We can also talk about the source of this complaint. Shame on you for green lighting a complaint from a twice fired sheriff’s deputy with no clue what he’s talking about and no knowledge of Becky’s action.
Perhaps I can phone in a sighting of Sasquatch and you’d print it without checking! Check your email in the morning Will. Neil Gordon, co-author “Behind the Doors of Justice
This question is NOT to Alex Murdaugh (“AM”) but to that Jim Jordan (“JJ”), who claims AM was the brother JJ never had: Are $150K worth turning your back on “the brother [you] never had” AND on his son? Specially in their worst hours?
If you, JJ, did not believe AM killed Paul or Maggie, did you ever see it from AM’s side? A widower who also lost his younger son and is being falsely accused of the murders of both?
If you, JJ, were a true friend, you would have thought of Buster, at the very least.
Even as a client, no other lawyer could have, or would have, gotten for you what AM got for you money-wise, even minus the $150K AM supposedly stole from you.
You, JJ, seem very healthy and strong; and I have no way of getting the actual records of your case; but my guess is that your injury (whatever it was) was not serious enough for the money AM got for you, even minus those $150k.
Were those $150K (which you pretend you would have given AM had he asked) worth your dehumanizing him, pointing the finger at him, and insulting him with “what kind of animal are you?”?
Frankly, JJ, if I were inclined to call money-greedy people animals (which I am not), I would have wondered which of the two of you is the worse animal.
Veritas, read John 18:22-24:
22When Jesus had said this, one of the officers standing nearby slapped Him in the face and said, “Is this how You answer the high priest?” 23Jesus replied, “If I said something wrong, testify as to what was wrong. But if I spoke correctly, why did you strike Me?” 24Then Annas sent Him, still bound, to Caiaphas the high priest .…
Just so you know, in case you have not read it elsewhere, I PERSONALLY know the VERY PEOPLE who railroaded Alex Murdaugh (“AM”) into two wrongful murder convictions because their friends (or payors) wanted AM’s Moselle because those people are obsessed with shooting beautiful living deer for the trophy of their horns and no trophy is ever enough for them.
I respect natural, reasonable, ecology-respecting hunting for food (though I never did it); but trophy-hunting and catch-and-release I loathe.
I know those people, Hatchet-for-Hire Heather, David Fernandez, Johnny James, John Meadors, and Donald Zelenka, and their assistants and collaborators because they tried, and are still trying, to bring false criminal charges against me to wrest from me a sliver of vacant land my mother and I unsuspectingly bought in March 2009 to build on it a completely solar house for ourselves. We bought it not knowing that the City of Columbia and the adjacent property owner had run illegally and surreptitiously run their sewer lines across and underneath that lot making it unbuildable.
When I sued for them to re-route the sewer lines away from my land (very feasible at minimal cost to them), they anawered by getting me falsely arrested and made homeless at Christmas time and at risk of homelessness ever since.
I wish the people who TRIED but, thank God, failed to railroad ME into two “harassment-in-the-first-degree” wrongful convictions with an evil plan to get me sentenced to 36 years, YES, THIRTY-SIX, by non other than Judge Clifton Newman would reimburse me and my family for our costs in exposing my evil prosecutors’/persecutors’ perjury, subornation of perjury, forgeries and fabrications against me.
Your insulting what I write as “drivel” will not change the facts that I have transcripts of my own cases AND I have page citations from Becky Hill’s books. Nothing can change that.
Luke 19:22-23 (“I will judge you by your own words”) and Luke 6:38 (“For with the measure you use, it shall be measured for you.”)
You and Becky “Boo” claim to be religious, etc. I leave that for God to judge; but I want to ask YOU about your own words.
Fair enough?
Using the book you, “Neil Gordon, co-author[ed] ‘Behind the Doors of Justice[,]'”
for starters, page xix: “Word is from someone on the defense team that Alex had been practicing and perfecting his snot-and-crying display for weeks.”
All possibilities:
1. This is a total fabrication by you and/or your co-author.
2. You and/or your co-author were spying on “the defense team” during “the trial of the century.”
3. Alex’s “defense team” has/had at least one traitor working against Alex’s interests during and/or after the trial.
4. The juror with the borrowed coat two wide for him (“the borrowed-coat juror”) invented that story with you and/or Becky “Boo.”
5. “The borrowed-coat juror” invented that story and fed it to you and/or to Becky “Boo” after the trial but before writing the book.
6. You and/or Becky “Boo” fabricated that story and fed it to the jury, with only “the borrowed-coat juror” dumb enough to repeat it in media interviews.
7. You and/or Becky “Boo” knew your spying on Alex’s “defense team” during the trial would, sooner or later, come out; so, you sought to pre-empt that revelation by pretending Alex’s “defense team” was sending out “word” just out of the treacherousness of its own heart or, according to your theory of the world, out of contrition for defending Alex.
Which is it?
However you respond by insulting me, it will not change the fact that I am quoting VERBATIM from page xix of your and Becky “Boo’s” book.
Also a legal principle is “qui non negat fatitur,” which should not apply to a defendant in a criminal case because that defendant has no burden at all; but that principle should apply if you’re threatening a civil defamation suit againat Will Folks; and I am NOT a lawyer.
Wow, in one fell swoop, I am defending Will Folks and sending many more to buy your and Becky “Boo’s” book to look at page xix!
But that is only a by-product of my main intent: to reach the truth and exonerate the wrongly-convicted.
Respond if you can; or “qui non negat fatitur.”
No insults… I am a truth-seeker myself and that’s why I became a reporter back in 1990.
Just to clarify, my wife met Becky at 9:02 AM on March 1 just prior to Bekki’s trip to Moselle. I met Becky on March 23 and was discussing the book.
Oh, when you say“ we“ as to anything that occurred before the end of the trial I honestly don’t know what you mean. I honestly do not understand what you were saying about a particular juror and a coat can you please expand. Thank you, Neil.
To the extent you sometimes post as “Neil Gordon” and other times as “anonymous,” you seem to be playing dumb to avoid responding to my my questions and analysis of the statement on page xix of the book you co-authored with Becky “Boo” Hill.
When you FIRST respond to that very direct question, I shall, God willing and FITS permitting, engage further with you.
Just for everyone’s information, the unjustly-dismissed juror (whom you call “the egg lady”) and SubZeroIQ have never KNOWINGLY met or spoken to each other.
What needs to be “take[n] out” (to quote other commenters) are: (1) the abuse of criminal courts to gain advantages in civil litigation; and (2) the brazen obstruction of justice by prosecutors and court personnel in a blind and rabid obsession to convict the innocent and prevent the wrongful convictions from being vacated.
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Rumors are that things like this have gone on at times even in larger circuits by employees within the courthouses
There are even more serious issues into which, Duffie Stone, the AG, and the courts should be conducting more investigations, specially into that juror who, according to Becky “Boo” Hill’s book, pages 58-60 got “thousands of dollars” from unnamed friends to stay on the jury instead of returning to work and getting replaced by an alternate.
Respectfully and succinctly, jury service (like voting) is NOT by conscription.
No one should be making money off voting or off jury service; nor should jury service be a paid vacation from a job.
The only possible non-corruptible (or less corruptible) way is some law for employers to grant employees paid leave for CONFIRMED jury service, which many civic-minded employers do anyway.
But what has happened here is WAY beyond the pale no matter how much lipstick is put on that pig.
Yes, you have to respond to a jury summons. But there are several mandatory and discretionary exemptions.
All that juror had to say at the initial jury selection OR as the trial went on was that jury service would impose a financial hardship on him.
Then that juror would have been excused from jury service to begin with OR he would have been replaced by an alternate. There were six alternates available. That is what alternates are for.
But for a juror to receive outside one, in the “thousands of dollars,” from unknown people is unheard of, at least by me.
I regret that you do not see this as an issue at all; but I am shocked to my core that it happened and even more shocked that Becky “Boo” Hill bragged about it.
“Lawyer Lori” is a loon.
Agree completely! When she is on Court TV or other videos, I turn it off. Can’t stand her.
The SC Supreme Court should consider assigning the Murdaugh case to The Honorable Bentley Douglas Price.
Will, I will be reaching out to you tomorrow to suggest a retraction on some false information you are purporting as fact hiding behind the word “allegedly”. I’m a little surprised since you have my contact information you would not reach out for a comment from my wife who will refute what your unhinged, potty mouth friend is saying and you are taking as fact. By the way Lawyer Lori did not use the word allegedly yet you linked her segment. You are a party to her slander. We can also talk about the source of this complaint. Shame on you for green lighting a complaint from a twice fired sheriff’s deputy with no clue what he’s talking about and no knowledge of Becky’s action.
Perhaps I can phone in a sighting of Sasquatch and you’d print it without checking! Check your email in the morning Will. Neil Gordon, co-author “Behind the Doors of Justice
Agree 100%.
This question is NOT to Alex Murdaugh (“AM”) but to that Jim Jordan (“JJ”), who claims AM was the brother JJ never had: Are $150K worth turning your back on “the brother [you] never had” AND on his son? Specially in their worst hours?
If you, JJ, did not believe AM killed Paul or Maggie, did you ever see it from AM’s side? A widower who also lost his younger son and is being falsely accused of the murders of both?
If you, JJ, were a true friend, you would have thought of Buster, at the very least.
Even as a client, no other lawyer could have, or would have, gotten for you what AM got for you money-wise, even minus the $150K AM supposedly stole from you.
You, JJ, seem very healthy and strong; and I have no way of getting the actual records of your case; but my guess is that your injury (whatever it was) was not serious enough for the money AM got for you, even minus those $150k.
Were those $150K (which you pretend you would have given AM had he asked) worth your dehumanizing him, pointing the finger at him, and insulting him with “what kind of animal are you?”?
Frankly, JJ, if I were inclined to call money-greedy people animals (which I am not), I would have wondered which of the two of you is the worse animal.
Veritas, read John 18:22-24:
22When Jesus had said this, one of the officers standing nearby slapped Him in the face and said, “Is this how You answer the high priest?” 23Jesus replied, “If I said something wrong, testify as to what was wrong. But if I spoke correctly, why did you strike Me?” 24Then Annas sent Him, still bound, to Caiaphas the high priest .…
Just so you know, in case you have not read it elsewhere, I PERSONALLY know the VERY PEOPLE who railroaded Alex Murdaugh (“AM”) into two wrongful murder convictions because their friends (or payors) wanted AM’s Moselle because those people are obsessed with shooting beautiful living deer for the trophy of their horns and no trophy is ever enough for them.
I respect natural, reasonable, ecology-respecting hunting for food (though I never did it); but trophy-hunting and catch-and-release I loathe.
I know those people, Hatchet-for-Hire Heather, David Fernandez, Johnny James, John Meadors, and Donald Zelenka, and their assistants and collaborators because they tried, and are still trying, to bring false criminal charges against me to wrest from me a sliver of vacant land my mother and I unsuspectingly bought in March 2009 to build on it a completely solar house for ourselves. We bought it not knowing that the City of Columbia and the adjacent property owner had run illegally and surreptitiously run their sewer lines across and underneath that lot making it unbuildable.
When I sued for them to re-route the sewer lines away from my land (very feasible at minimal cost to them), they anawered by getting me falsely arrested and made homeless at Christmas time and at risk of homelessness ever since.
I wish the people who TRIED but, thank God, failed to railroad ME into two “harassment-in-the-first-degree” wrongful convictions with an evil plan to get me sentenced to 36 years, YES, THIRTY-SIX, by non other than Judge Clifton Newman would reimburse me and my family for our costs in exposing my evil prosecutors’/persecutors’ perjury, subornation of perjury, forgeries and fabrications against me.
Your insulting what I write as “drivel” will not change the facts that I have transcripts of my own cases AND I have page citations from Becky Hill’s books. Nothing can change that.
Luke 19:22-23 (“I will judge you by your own words”) and Luke 6:38 (“For with the measure you use, it shall be measured for you.”)
You and Becky “Boo” claim to be religious, etc. I leave that for God to judge; but I want to ask YOU about your own words.
Fair enough?
Using the book you, “Neil Gordon, co-author[ed] ‘Behind the Doors of Justice[,]'”
for starters, page xix: “Word is from someone on the defense team that Alex had been practicing and perfecting his snot-and-crying display for weeks.”
All possibilities:
1. This is a total fabrication by you and/or your co-author.
2. You and/or your co-author were spying on “the defense team” during “the trial of the century.”
3. Alex’s “defense team” has/had at least one traitor working against Alex’s interests during and/or after the trial.
4. The juror with the borrowed coat two wide for him (“the borrowed-coat juror”) invented that story with you and/or Becky “Boo.”
5. “The borrowed-coat juror” invented that story and fed it to you and/or to Becky “Boo” after the trial but before writing the book.
6. You and/or Becky “Boo” fabricated that story and fed it to the jury, with only “the borrowed-coat juror” dumb enough to repeat it in media interviews.
7. You and/or Becky “Boo” knew your spying on Alex’s “defense team” during the trial would, sooner or later, come out; so, you sought to pre-empt that revelation by pretending Alex’s “defense team” was sending out “word” just out of the treacherousness of its own heart or, according to your theory of the world, out of contrition for defending Alex.
Which is it?
However you respond by insulting me, it will not change the fact that I am quoting VERBATIM from page xix of your and Becky “Boo’s” book.
Also a legal principle is “qui non negat fatitur,” which should not apply to a defendant in a criminal case because that defendant has no burden at all; but that principle should apply if you’re threatening a civil defamation suit againat Will Folks; and I am NOT a lawyer.
Wow, in one fell swoop, I am defending Will Folks and sending many more to buy your and Becky “Boo’s” book to look at page xix!
But that is only a by-product of my main intent: to reach the truth and exonerate the wrongly-convicted.
Respond if you can; or “qui non negat fatitur.”
No insults… I am a truth-seeker myself and that’s why I became a reporter back in 1990.
Just to clarify, my wife met Becky at 9:02 AM on March 1 just prior to Bekki’s trip to Moselle. I met Becky on March 23 and was discussing the book.
Oh, when you say“ we“ as to anything that occurred before the end of the trial I honestly don’t know what you mean. I honestly do not understand what you were saying about a particular juror and a coat can you please expand. Thank you, Neil.
See above please
To the extent you sometimes post as “Neil Gordon” and other times as “anonymous,” you seem to be playing dumb to avoid responding to my my questions and analysis of the statement on page xix of the book you co-authored with Becky “Boo” Hill.
When you FIRST respond to that very direct question, I shall, God willing and FITS permitting, engage further with you.
Just for everyone’s information, the unjustly-dismissed juror (whom you call “the egg lady”) and SubZeroIQ have never KNOWINGLY met or spoken to each other.
What needs to be “take[n] out” (to quote other commenters) are: (1) the abuse of criminal courts to gain advantages in civil litigation; and (2) the brazen obstruction of justice by prosecutors and court personnel in a blind and rabid obsession to convict the innocent and prevent the wrongful convictions from being vacated.