She should get life at the very least. She aimed for the head, which is proof that she intended to kill that woman. Because of the racial aspect, the spitting claim and the fact that she’s a woman, they probably wouldn’t want to go for the death penalty, although if the shooter was a man, they definitely would.
People keep telling me an armed society is a polite society but all I see is people getting murdered at schools, movie theaters, grocery stores, malls, etc.
Guess the Good Guy With A Gun™ was in the bathroom again or something.
The good guys might have been intimidated by all of the “Rob Me” signs found in so many Irmo businesses that prevent them from legally carrying, there. I don’t know if it is coincidence, or if elements of IPD are encouraging so many of these signs, but any business owner who places them on their business is a damn idiot. These signs will only discourage the law-abiding good guys, never the criminals such as the shooter in this incident. She didn’t care about going to prison for life for murder. She sure as he’ll won’t care about an added gun charge.
Hopefully it won’t. Unlike what you guys seem to hope for, with Wild West shootouts and plenty of injured or dead bystanders, states that have enacted permit less carry (aka “Constitutional” carry) Have noticed no uptick in violence beyond existing crime trends as police are further hamstrung and courts are unwilling to deal effectively with violent criminals. Some enjoy reduced rates of violent crime because criminals are not as protected by the legal system and anti-gun laws as they had been, previously.
A couple of years ago, some LE like SLED Chief Mark Keel and others were whining about how allowing open carry would create confusion and their officers wouldn’t know who was the good guy and who was the bad guy. Since open carry passed, I have only observed three citizens openly carrying firearms. In none of those cases did they create panic or generate a shootout. Restoration of rights long denied is not the bad thing some of you think it is.
Hey, all this will get much better when we get “constitutional” carry. It’ll be fun when all the Barney Fifes start pulling and shooting while trying to figure out just who the bad guy is!
I think Will should report these deaths like he did covid deaths…that they died “with” a gunshot wound because they probably had some condition that would cause death eventually.
I know the “Wild West” gunfire with lots of innocent bystanders hit is what you guys hope for Nanker, but the reality is, that just is not the case. 25 states now have permitless carry with more hopefully coming on board. Just about all of the “blood flowing in the streets” that you guys always predict, is the same miscreants who probably cannot legally possess a firearm to begin with because of prior criminal history.
On the FOX News site it says the shooting victim spat on the shooter, but this article characterizes the interaction before the shooting as “verbal” only. Hate crimes are crimes in which the perpetrator chooses to attack the victim because of their race, etc. They often make this clear by yelling racial epitaphs, for example. In this case I suspect the shooter would have shot at anyone regardless of color if they spat at her so this doesn’t seem like a hate crime.
Yeah, if she doesn’t turn herself in, it might result in her going several states away and being on the run for who knows how long, only God knows who else she might kill along the way. Maybe tone down the bloodthirsty Rambo fantasies and just be grateful she’s behind bars.
No, not obvious at all. Posting links here will get your comment held “for moderation review” and never released. Therefore I will give you a couple of stories to Google.
“Murder of Jan Pawel and Quiana Jenkins Pietrzak”
“Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom”
Hate crime laws create special, not equal, categories of protected people. If the perpetrator of a hate crime is black, gay, or a woman, chances are slim that they will be charged with a hate crime.
Too many guns, too much anger, and too much hate all around. Also, think of the over-abundance of guns in the Murdaugh properties and cars. What did Jesus Christ say about the sword? Full disclosure: I am posting what I said all along to also see if my comment will get through here now that my comments on Murdaugh stories get “held for review” then killed.
I think Jesus said something to the effect that if you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and get one. Sounds like an endorsement of being prepared to defend yourself (and others) to me.
No, Jesus Christ said that those who live by the sword shall die by the sword. And earlier the Bible says that unless the Lord watches over the house, in vain do the guards forgo sleep all night. The deeper meaning is that, in a truly civilized and moral society, no one wants to steal or kill. But if we replace sublimation of the soul with material weapons, those weapons will kill us instead of giving us eternal life. Biostatistics prove that the availability of a gun is a significant variable in turning suicidal thoughts into actual suicides.
Even the circumstances about the event are everchanging and don’t add up. But one thing is for sure, it just goes to show that nobody carries a gun without the desire to kill. People are murdered every single day in all kinds of circumstances, but why is it that only CERTAIN victims of senseless violence are presented as tragic. Innocent people are MURDERED at the hands of hate-filled people everyday. Too bad we’ll die never knowing peace…
Of course, she just killed someone in cold blood…for no reason…sure…I’ll buy that. Just like every police shooting that results in death is “justified”…mmm hmm…
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Would be deemed a hate crime if it were the other way around….
There are no hate crime laws in South Carolina.
Yes, black people are charged with hate crimes in states that have the laws. This is obvious if you do a second of research.
Rob, I posted a reply to you but somehow it wound up below rather than underneath your comment.
There are federal hate crime laws that cover every state.
Show me an example
She should get life at the very least. She aimed for the head, which is proof that she intended to kill that woman. Because of the racial aspect, the spitting claim and the fact that she’s a woman, they probably wouldn’t want to go for the death penalty, although if the shooter was a man, they definitely would.
usual suspect
my name Jeff
Who was her brother that died? Where was he killed? City, State?
Which was the pedestrian and which the driver?
The things modern “journalists” leave out of stories…
her dark soul will burn in hell
Take that back and never say anything like that, no matter what. For your own sake. Please.
Clearly a hate crime. To shoot someone in the back. Clearly murder. Solicitor should ask for the death penalty.
I don’t know that they can prove premeditation. Even if they could, most states require the accompaniment of another crime.
People keep telling me an armed society is a polite society but all I see is people getting murdered at schools, movie theaters, grocery stores, malls, etc.
Guess the Good Guy With A Gun™ was in the bathroom again or something.
The good guys might have been intimidated by all of the “Rob Me” signs found in so many Irmo businesses that prevent them from legally carrying, there. I don’t know if it is coincidence, or if elements of IPD are encouraging so many of these signs, but any business owner who places them on their business is a damn idiot. These signs will only discourage the law-abiding good guys, never the criminals such as the shooter in this incident. She didn’t care about going to prison for life for murder. She sure as he’ll won’t care about an added gun charge.
This murder will hopefully kill the Constitutional Carry bill. Can anyone imagine the chaos with so many impetuous people carrying guns.
Hopefully it won’t. Unlike what you guys seem to hope for, with Wild West shootouts and plenty of injured or dead bystanders, states that have enacted permit less carry (aka “Constitutional” carry) Have noticed no uptick in violence beyond existing crime trends as police are further hamstrung and courts are unwilling to deal effectively with violent criminals. Some enjoy reduced rates of violent crime because criminals are not as protected by the legal system and anti-gun laws as they had been, previously.
A couple of years ago, some LE like SLED Chief Mark Keel and others were whining about how allowing open carry would create confusion and their officers wouldn’t know who was the good guy and who was the bad guy. Since open carry passed, I have only observed three citizens openly carrying firearms. In none of those cases did they create panic or generate a shootout. Restoration of rights long denied is not the bad thing some of you think it is.
Hey, all this will get much better when we get “constitutional” carry. It’ll be fun when all the Barney Fifes start pulling and shooting while trying to figure out just who the bad guy is!
I think Will should report these deaths like he did covid deaths…that they died “with” a gunshot wound because they probably had some condition that would cause death eventually.
I’m surprised the anti-vax dudes aren’t claiming the vaccine did it because she “died suddenly.”
I know the “Wild West” gunfire with lots of innocent bystanders hit is what you guys hope for Nanker, but the reality is, that just is not the case. 25 states now have permitless carry with more hopefully coming on board. Just about all of the “blood flowing in the streets” that you guys always predict, is the same miscreants who probably cannot legally possess a firearm to begin with because of prior criminal history.
On the FOX News site it says the shooting victim spat on the shooter, but this article characterizes the interaction before the shooting as “verbal” only. Hate crimes are crimes in which the perpetrator chooses to attack the victim because of their race, etc. They often make this clear by yelling racial epitaphs, for example. In this case I suspect the shooter would have shot at anyone regardless of color if they spat at her so this doesn’t seem like a hate crime.
dont give anyone a reason to shoot you- guns all around , i wish she had not turned in,
so cops could shoot her like a rabid animal
Yeah, if she doesn’t turn herself in, it might result in her going several states away and being on the run for who knows how long, only God knows who else she might kill along the way. Maybe tone down the bloodthirsty Rambo fantasies and just be grateful she’s behind bars.
No, not obvious at all. Posting links here will get your comment held “for moderation review” and never released. Therefore I will give you a couple of stories to Google.
“Murder of Jan Pawel and Quiana Jenkins Pietrzak”
“Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom”
Hate crime laws create special, not equal, categories of protected people. If the perpetrator of a hate crime is black, gay, or a woman, chances are slim that they will be charged with a hate crime.
If you don’t absolutely despise these people, you are either playing them for their vote or overcharging the dummies for common sundries.
If you don’t absolutely despise these people, you are either pandering for their vote or way overcharging them for food and sundries.
Too many guns, too much anger, and too much hate all around. Also, think of the over-abundance of guns in the Murdaugh properties and cars. What did Jesus Christ say about the sword? Full disclosure: I am posting what I said all along to also see if my comment will get through here now that my comments on Murdaugh stories get “held for review” then killed.
Shameful
Typical of these people
I think Jesus said something to the effect that if you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and get one. Sounds like an endorsement of being prepared to defend yourself (and others) to me.
No, Jesus Christ said that those who live by the sword shall die by the sword. And earlier the Bible says that unless the Lord watches over the house, in vain do the guards forgo sleep all night. The deeper meaning is that, in a truly civilized and moral society, no one wants to steal or kill. But if we replace sublimation of the soul with material weapons, those weapons will kill us instead of giving us eternal life. Biostatistics prove that the availability of a gun is a significant variable in turning suicidal thoughts into actual suicides.
Even the circumstances about the event are everchanging and don’t add up. But one thing is for sure, it just goes to show that nobody carries a gun without the desire to kill. People are murdered every single day in all kinds of circumstances, but why is it that only CERTAIN victims of senseless violence are presented as tragic. Innocent people are MURDERED at the hands of hate-filled people everyday. Too bad we’ll die never knowing peace…
Of course, she just killed someone in cold blood…for no reason…sure…I’ll buy that. Just like every police shooting that results in death is “justified”…mmm hmm…