SOCIAL LIBERALS, “NEOCONSERVATIVES” SAY THEY WILL VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON OVER DONALD TRUMP
“We are on the verge of a real meltdown in the Republican party,” radio host Hugh Hewitt declared this week.
On the verge?
News flash, man. “Republicans” are already there. The populist insurgency of billionaire businessman Donald Trump has thrown the GOP into full-on Chernobyl mode.
Things have gotten so crazy, some establishment “Republicans” are dropping all pretense and letting their true colors bleed through … like former New Jersey governor Christine Whitman, who has previously compared Trump to Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler.
According to Whitman, the GOP unity pledge – which Trump was forced to sign – apparently doesn’t extend to “The Donald.” Meaning if he gets the nomination, she will be voting for Hillary Clinton.
“You’ll see a lot of Republicans do that,” Whitman told NJ.com. “We don’t want to. But I know I won’t vote for Trump.”
Wow …
Socially liberal “Republicans” like Whitman aren’t the only ones making a beeline for the Clinton bandwagon. So-called “neoconservatives” – a.k.a. those who believe in perpetual warmongering – are also rallying behind her candidacy.
(Hmmm … wonder why).
If Trump is the GOP nominee, neoconservative intellectual Robert Kagan wrote this week that “the only choice will be to vote for Hillary Clinton.”
He also referred to Trump as a “Frankenstein monster.”
Meanwhile Max Boot – a hardcore supporter of the failed Iraq War – wrote this week that “a Trump presidency would represent the death knell of America as a great power.” Really? Apparently he thinks the $4-6 trillion taxpayers spent over the last decade-and-a-half on a failed occupation of the Middle East was a great investment.
All over social media, so-called “conservatives” who have marched in lockstep with the GOP’s appeasement of Barack Obama are now sporting the #NeverTrump hashtag – indicating they will not support Trump if he defeats establishment “Republican” favorite Marco Rubio.
And again … they wonder why we say there’s “no difference” between these two establishment parties?
Frankly, we love the chaos. The deep fractures in both establishment parties are a long time coming … and will hopefully be useful in shredding existing political labels that have become effectively meaningless.
We need an outcome-based system … not one based on self-applied labels. And maybe this will bring us closer to such a system.
In the meantime, it’s just funny to see a bunch of “Republicans” who months ago were demonizing Clinton and bragging about their ability to defeat her now openly supporting her over Trump.
Clearly party loyalty is only for those “in the party.”
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Ever wonder why they call them a “party”
There is ain’t no “party” in either the Democrats or the Republicans
There are a lot of Democrat/Republican Shits
Even an equal number of Democrat/Republican Assholes
And then there is my favorite:
Fuckin’ Democrat Cockroaches and their identical twins the Fuckin’ Republican Cockroaches
ouch!
My reaction: Schadenfreude.
Don’t get too happy. All this does is demonstrate even more that it is not the Rs vs the Ds but rather the Rs & Ds against the People.
Donald Trump is a rich kid liberal reality TV personality, so either way you vote you get a liberal in the WH. Hillary and Bernie just have actual experience. Electing Trump would be like electing an incredibly ugly Kardashian.
The why do the libs hate him so much? Hell they didn’t hate Pat Buchanan, Bob Dole this much.
The Republicans have earned this fiasco. Years spent demonizing anything government related by the fringes of the Republican party have so fractured it one wonders if it can ever be whole again.
The only hope I see is that some reasonableness may return when all these age 65+ tea party types die off in 10-15 years.
One day you may be 65+ if you don’t die from stupidity first.
Going to see Trump in Columbus tomorrow. Welcome President Trump.
Yes. Welcome Emperor Trump. I wonder what disaster he’ll pick for a VP.
Are going to choke any minorities at the rally or are you one of those fat lazy supporters?
You going to the trial in August?
How will we tell you apart from the other Klansmen if you all wear white hoods?
+1000 I’m closer to 65 than 40. I was about 37 before I felt like in my heart of hearts that I was making wise, logical decisions. I think critical thinking finally wrested the steering wheel from emotions. Now my daughters and grandkids have placed me in the family elder spot, seeking my thoughts on stuff happening in their lives. Pretty sweet gig.
Isn’t amazing that when critical thinking comes into play, wisdom is not far behind and increases.
My PhD from the School of Hard Knocks has been a major influence. The hard part is trying not to be a judgemental nag.
Just wait, the closer you get to 65+ and beyond your wife, if like mine, will call you Archie Bunker every once in awhile.
You didn’t pay the $35,000 for a Trump U degree?
Mrs. TAZ the 1st easily beat that. Chump (Trump?) Change.
You know what they call child support and alimony? Worth it!!!
Yup, and when they spent a generation inviting in the southern segregationists, Bible bigots, and balmy Baggers, don’t be surprised when these take over.
I pledge to vote for the most conservative candidate. If the race is Hillary against Donald, then I’ll vote for Hillary.
Incoming!
Why would you vote against what you oand others like you helped create?
lol…if that was true you have voted for Tom Ervin.
Come on! Ervin dropped out of the election and endorsed Shaheen as I predicted he would.
Ervin might not have taken down the Confederate flag. God bless Nikki Haley!
I’d like to know what specifically make Hillary more conservative than Donald in your mind.
You don’t have to type pages, just a couple of bullet points- the big things that maker her more conservative.
I will start with just one. Free Trade is freedom to sell by and sell without big government interference or taxing it in the form of tarriffs.
Only big government liberals would interfer. Only crony capitalist would want protection from competition. That protection will only make American business weaker. First it helps, but eventually it becomes an addiction.
The major industries in SC export most of their products. Boeing, BMW, GE and numerous tire companies.
True conservatives believe in less government, not more.
Ok, that’s one thing.
How about two other policies that are big government liberal type things?
Trump’s possition on eminent domain is wrong. It should be used only for public use, public transportation, and public utilities, not casinos.
Ok, so George Bush used eminent domain the same way a Trump. Is he conservative in your book?
“as Trump”
Trump’s statements about Muslims is a recruiting video for ISIS. We have Muslim freinds who are dying and fighting ISIS. Trump makes it more difficult for the Kurds who are ate the front lines.
Ok, that’s not a “big government” issue. Do you have something else you can point to?
you continually make stupid remarks
Let the establishment vote against Trump as that will make Trump stronger. People are madder than hell and the old arguments put forth by the Establishment are going down!
You realize there aren’t that many angry racist white people out there. Probably not even in the millions.
what are you a census taker ? come back when you know what the fuck your talking about
Not knowing what the fuck you’re talking about never stopped you. Oh my!
Don’t underestimate the number of ignorant people out there. Millions voted for George W Bush twice.
You are correct, that is why so many people thinking Hilliary has this “wrapped up” are deluding themselves.
America Home of the 42% Stupid.
I’m gonna write in Willie Nelson.
I was thinking ’bout Springsteen, IF he brings THE BAND with him!!!!!
Must havev been a good concert.
Knocked The Stones outta’ our number 1 slot.
Three and a half hours, of good old rock and roll!
Well, that’s entertaining.
you get what you give
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL7-CKirWZE
Trump is going to win the nomination. Trump is going to win the general election. Get on board or get out of the way. I see the Koch Brothers are back to backing their boot licker Marco Antonio Rubio, what a surprise; and Rafael Cruz just keeps lying, cheating and praying. Why aren’t the Christians voting for me. Maybe because they smell charlatan and son of a conman.
Trump is literally a charlatan and a son of a con man. Literally.
Trump will win most states tomorrow. The latest CNN poll shows he is now within the margin of error of tieing Cruz in Texas. If Cruz does not double Trump in Texas, he is dead. Trump will then crush Rubio in Florida on March 15. I like were this is going.
Trump’s fifth Bankruptcy?
Oh, he’ll win the primaries. That’s by design. But he doesn’t have enough numbers to ever beat the Democrat nominee. Now high ranking GOP operatives are saying they will vote for Hillary.
I sure hope they don’t because if Trump wins there will be a lot of Hollywood elite liberal types that say they will leave the country.
Ooooooh, who will leave when Hillary wins?
I don’t know have you heard of any?
What does that tell you? Hillary is less polarizing, thus far more electable. Pretty obvious how this will play out.
It tells me people that love their country don’t threaten to leave their it because of a politician. “Hillary is less polarizing”, too you maybe.
We’ll be better off
You got that right, if they want to leave let them go.
Hell, even Colonel might vote for her. We know Nikki will.
August Trial – I like where this is going!!!
Marco? Yer needle is stuck again.
And he’s got small fingers and you know what that means –
you gotta shave your back. so what
No silly, it means he has a little stump. Stumpy trumpy.
Five Words – Trump University San Diego August
By Donald – con men in courtrooms get it up the ass. Better get some lube – asshole.
There are now many disgruntled Republicans and Moderates trying to deal with the perceived inevitability of a Donald Trump candidacy for the Republican nomination and run for the Presidency.
They don’t understand that many of the average people are fed up with the traditional Democrat and Republican candidates for the Presidency. They saw eight years of Bush and then eight of Obama while the economy stalled, their incomes plateaued, business’ fled this country in record numbers for foreign shores, the status, power, and influence of the US lessened, and the hopes that their children would have more opportunity and have a better life and a better chance to prosper than they had.
Most everyday folks don’t get hung up on some pie-in-the-sky political philosophy. They are just concerned with the economic, social, everyday issues that will make this a better country for them and their children.
It ain’t nothing more than many people waking up and realizing that things in the last fifteen years have not been good, and will continue to get worse for them and their children if they don’t do something.
To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, “America is no longer that shining light on the hill.”
In all fairness the middle class has not seen their incomes go up after inflation since 1980, except for a few years under Clinton. I agree with you they are angry, but they should not blame it on Bush and Obama. Its just how trickle down works or more specifically does not work. If he wins Maybe Trump will abandon trickle down. If he does, who knows where he can go. If he does not, it will be 4 to 8 more year of stagnation.
We have to get money out of politics so that government can work for the average man.
The people whom I read he has been consulting with are old Reaganites.
Bulllllllllllllllllllllll shit!
Exactly. He’s a fool.
“In all fairness the middle class has not seen their incomes go up after inflation since 1980, except for a few years under Clinton. I agree with you they are angry, but they should not blame it on Bush and Obama. Its just how trickle down works or more specifically does not work. ”
What a monumentally stupid statement.
The Federal government by policy debases the currency year after year, targeting 2% specifically and you claim that the reason middle class incomes haven’t gone up is because of “trickle down” policy?
You are an economic ignoramus.
Trickle down on you, Reagan created the largest debt since WWII. Reaganomics II created the new biggest deficit plus a bonus failure, the Great Republican Recession. Clinton raised taxes, Republican’s, always wrong about economics, said to a man it would wreck the economy. Result booming economy and a balanced budget handed to Jr. Bush. Then of course, as pointed out before, we had the Republican Bush economic disaster, economic collapse.
And what does any of your statement have to do with stagnating wages for which your boy said “they should not blame it on Bush
and Obama”?
Or did you miss that part?
Ronnie Ray
Guns us down.
Takes us back to
Tinsel town.
The NASCAR CEO endorses Trump-
“I’ve known Donald for over 20 years,” France said at a rally in Valdosta, Ga. “I’m going to tell you one thing: you know about his winning and success. He wins with his family. Any of his children, you’d be proud to have in your family. That’s how I judge a winner.”
His family – with which wife? 3 wives makes a winner? I’d say the children’s success have more to do with their mothers & wealth, than anything hands on Donald’s done. Example this little gem that Trump had to say about having another baby with Mrs Trump #3. “‘Cause I like kids. I mean, I won’t do anything to take care of them. I’ll supply funds and she’ll take care of the kids. It’s not like I’m gonna be walking the kids down Central Park,” he told Stern.
I know, why does he keep divorcing them. He could just run around on them like all the other Republicans do.
Trump, Clinton, Republican and Democrat parties…we have survived much worse as a Nation.
You forgot Bush, Bush Jr, Nixon….
And Reagan. Middle class screwed under all those administrations, except Clinton.
Clinton just screwed interns.
… and gun owners!
But really interns. Boooya!!!
For the record, if Monica had offered up her mouth to me late at night in 1995 I’d have taken it.
For the record, who gives a damn who you screw.
I do.
I didn’t forget anybody.
You’re right. We’ve survived a few Republican Presidents who left the country worse than they found it. That’s why we keep electing Democrats to the White House. They do a much better job.
Trolling, trolling, trolling down the river.
How many more user names can you come up with?
“Frankly, we love the chaos.”
——
“In chaos there is opportunity”
Exactly, and Trump recognizes opportunity. If you think there is a nuclear meltdown now, wait until tomorrow night.
I’ll bet you’re right.
You think Trump will meltdown worse than he did in the last debate?
Pee pee in his pants. Sometimes those short worms don’t shake as well, not enough centrifical force.
Explains while he has to import female labor for marriages. Except for that bumpkin from the south, who you know worked for less anyways.
Wait until MSNBC and CNN start asking him about Trump University – over and over and over and over.
Welcome back dumb ass.I see you ain’t got any smarter.Sure.Trump U. Will decide the election.
What clicks most with everyday Americans –
A Yahoo account or –
Stealing $35,000 from Grandma in a scam?
Heading to Columbus,Ohip for noon Trump rally at Airport.Will report in.Thousands have grabbed tickets and shuttles from parking area started at 8:15.
Sitting next to David Duke? Don’t forget to pick up your hood from the dry cleaners and the kerosene for the cross at the corner station. LMAO!!!
Sure……..long ride from West Columbia. Thought you were in Arizona? Then it was FL, then MB? Be real, the funny bus don’t drive that fast.
Pro choice & pro universal health care. Socially liberal in general. I may be able to live with that.
Republicans may stay home but they aren’t voting for Clinton.
I stayed home in 2008 because of that idiot McCain. It didn’t teach Republicans anything, I might as well tell people I voted for Obama.
Washington, DC’s criminals all running scared are they? Even Hillary is a flat out in the open FELON.
Just like other Dictators and the kings in other Countries, the “ruling class”, “elitist establishment” cannot stand the thought of losing their hold on power and control!
We see it in Washington and here in SC. MY THOUGHTS, SCREW ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THROW THEM ALL OUT AND START OVER!!!!!!!!!!
Hmm…..where is Mark Sanford..? Where is Tom Davis…?? From top to bottom here in our state, when an outright criminal goes to another country and declares “We Came, We Saw …and He DIED” that got fellow Americans KILLED and these fine politicians act like Little Miss Bo Peep…..WE ARE FED UP…!!!!
Our entire political class is caught in a vortex similar to Bell South workers having no clue how to get in their leadership’s FACE about Cell Phone dominance…!! Its like GM workers not understanding about Tesla Batteries instead of fossil oil cars..!! Its like Amtrak workers not understanding the SKYTRAN system…!!!
Its home buyers not understanding the difference between a 2×4 and Insulated concrete forms homes……
Its like Jim Clyburn not understanding how money to SCSU can be TRACKED….!!!
WE ARE…FED….UP…!!!
This is what can happen, unexpectedly. For the unknowing and history deniers, Google “Southern Strategy”. Starting with the passage of the ’60’s Civil Rights Acts, the Republican Party for over 50 years cynically recruited the nations intolerant and ignorant with their “Southern Strategy”. They were remarkably successful, they turned the solid Democrat (Dixiecrat) South, Republican. Now their crazy recruits have become the Republican majority. The inmates have taken over the asylum. Republican’s, looks like you are going to have to deal with your stunning success, how proud you must be.
First, you need to explain how Trump’s wins in Nevada and New Hampshire are the results of a Southern Strategy.
That would require a brain. You ask too much.
“We need an outcome-based system … not one based on self-applied labels. And maybe this will bring us closer to such a system.”
I’m hearing this more and more! All I can say is Amen! There may be hope for us yet. Down with the neocons!
Cannot speak for the pundits you cited, but conservatives will just not vote for either Presidential candidate. They’re both liberals so there you go.
First we bury the Repugicans, then we turn on the Democrits. The order is very important.
You P USSIES wouldn’t fare well.