And yet every city and state that has raised its minimum wage has seen no decline in employment. In fact their economies are booming. The dirty secret of the right is that while their theory sounds “conservative”, the facts do not back up the theory. The truth seems to be that when the income of waiters, waitresses, etc is pushed up they spend more money and that increased spending creates more jobs.
Its like the Laffer Curve. You know the one where if the more you cut taxes the more money you collect and if you eliminate taxes you get infinite money. Its a theory that has never ever worked, but they stick by it because it says what they want it to say. Facts are not relevant. If the theory sounds good, for god sakes don’t test it.
Conservatives don’t even treat the Laffer Curve as an actual curve, but a slope. Treating it as a curve would suggest there is a point where taxes shouldn’t be lowered. Republicans will support lowering taxes on the rich until they pay nothing at all.
Get an education, stay out of trouble, be responsible for your actions, and then I doubt you will be making seven dollars an hour. You might be making that to start, but the cream will rise to the top.
It goes straight into a savings account for the education of my two grand kids. Fortunately, I don’t have to touch it. I just want to make sure that they go to college, are raised responsibly, and never have to worry about making seven dollars an hour.
You’re a good socialist. Why not let those kids earn their way instead of providing a free ride on the tax payer dime? Bernie would be proud.
erneba February 26, 2016 at 12:53 pm
They are earning it by being good responsible kids, and it is my money, just delayed in payment to me.
American People February 26, 2016 at 12:58 pm
It’s money provided by taxpayers to you for simply being a US citizen. You’re taking that money and giving a couple of lazy brats a free ride. I hope they get a nice “safe space”. The way you talk about college students would really hurt their feelings. Your contributions were spent years ago. Our tax dollars are paying you now. Like I said… Bernie would be so proud of you.
idcydm February 26, 2016 at 1:05 pm
SS and Medicare, two wonderful Democrat Programs.
Flip February 26, 2016 at 2:57 pm
“It’s money provided by taxpayers to you for simply being a US citizen.”
You only reap if you pay into the system, be a little fair.
erneba February 26, 2016 at 6:17 pm
I am not sure that I have consumer all the FICA taxes I payed along with my employers contributions at this point. I have not been on SS that long and frankly, I have not received back what I put into it.
You surely make many unfounded general and personal statements about people. Sounds like you have things figured out. If I thought like you, I too, would probably be a socialist.
euwe max February 28, 2016 at 7:21 pm
I am not sure that I have consumed all the FICA taxes I payed along with my employers contributions at this point.
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did you vote for the war?
the minimum wage is a blunt instrument. its the only wage that the government can influence. we can’t legislate increases to middle class salaries. we can only try to push up from the bottom. pointing out that there are flaws and downsides in raising the minimum wage is lazy ‘conservatism’. Labeling something ‘free-market’ or ‘socialism’ does not constitute an argument.
Not if you are making money and you need employees to run your business. Your cutesy Fox News quip not withstanding. Business is labor + capital + infrastructure. Without anyone of the three the business will fail.
“…if you are making money and you need employees to run your business” , presumably you would have to offer pay in order to get people to work for you.
On the other hand, if a position will cost you more in wages than it generates in additional revenue, you probably aren’t going to hire.
Yes, but the new higher paying jobs created from the additional spending that results from people earning more money will replace that super low paying job plus more. That is what the all the cities that have raised the minimum wage have experienced. Is there a top to that, yea. But we are not there yet. Higher minimum wages did not kill the economy in the 50s and 60s
In the 60’s when I was in high school, I made minimum wage then I joined the military and made less than minimum wage, of course the benefits were good. Know what else I did in the 60’s, paid taxes.
Flip February 26, 2016 at 3:01 pm
Some people will never earn a big salary or have a job with good benefits. Some people just don’t get talents or skills that can earn that kind of living. They still work, they often work damn hard, they should be able to make at the very least a meager living without relying on the government.
I don’t get how Republicans can be against both a living wage and welfare, a lack of the former necessitates the latter…
idcydm February 26, 2016 at 3:25 pm
I don’t get how you think Republicans are against a living wage and welfare.
Flip February 26, 2016 at 4:49 pm
It’s in everything they write and say.
idcydm February 26, 2016 at 6:13 pm
No it isn’t but keep saying it, your ilk will love you for it.
Flip February 29, 2016 at 9:03 am
Against minimum wage, constantly bashing people on food stamps, you’re right conservatives never say anything bad about welfare or a living wage.
Trump 2016 February 26, 2016 at 12:12 pm
As soon as Trump kicks his ass in Florida we will not have to worry about him anymore. Can you even imagine this guy as President of the United States. President of Haiti maybe. But Jesus Christ, look at the guy. I mean can you see this weeny representing us on the world stage?
Yes I can. And you will. I won’t call you names, because like a lot of Republicans you have been duped been duped by the establishment into believing that Cuban kid is capable of being a President.
Do you have something against Cubans? What is wrong with being Cuban? By the way, the President of Haiti is black, not Hispanic. I guess to you Republican establishment types all minorities look alike.
JB February 26, 2016 at 3:11 pm
No, but obviously you do. I don’t see you pointing out Trump’s German heritage, Fuhrer Trump. So what was the point in calling Rubio a “Cuban” kid. He is an American. Yes, most Haitians are black, so your wisecrack about President of Haiti made little sense.
Bible Thumper February 26, 2016 at 1:09 pm
Two years ago, Rubio announced …
I wish Fitsnews was paying attention to what Donald Trump said two years ago or even two days ago.
Fits seems to have a new program which switches from article to article much faster than before. Is that done in an effort to log more clicks? Now, if I were an advertiser, that’s something I’d like to know.
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Just be yourself,Marco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_lBQkjLONk
The minimum wage is nothing more than mandatory unemployment.
And yet every city and state that has raised its minimum wage has seen no decline in employment. In fact their economies are booming. The dirty secret of the right is that while their theory sounds “conservative”, the facts do not back up the theory. The truth seems to be that when the income of waiters, waitresses, etc is pushed up they spend more money and that increased spending creates more jobs.
Its like the Laffer Curve. You know the one where if the more you cut taxes the more money you collect and if you eliminate taxes you get infinite money. Its a theory that has never ever worked, but they stick by it because it says what they want it to say. Facts are not relevant. If the theory sounds good, for god sakes don’t test it.
Conservatives don’t even treat the Laffer Curve as an actual curve, but a slope. Treating it as a curve would suggest there is a point where taxes shouldn’t be lowered. Republicans will support lowering taxes on the rich until they pay nothing at all.
“booming”???
Yes. Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, San Diego, New York, Louisville, Washington. All are doing very well.
All centers for money printing/gathering…it is juiced in some areas, but some not:
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2016/02/the-ten-most-distressed-cities-in.html
Really?
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2016/02/the-high-minimum-wage-at-work.html
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2015/08/seattle-has-lost-1300-restaurant-jobs.html
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2015/11/report-15-minimum-wage-could-cost-new.html
I could go on and on…the facts seem to disagree with your theory.
But they’re your facts not his. I’ll bet his facts include the entire work force not just the minimum wage work force.
Republicans, fighting for YOUR RIGHT to make less money. How are you supposed to pay the bills with less than $7 an hour?
Get an education, stay out of trouble, be responsible for your actions, and then I doubt you will be making seven dollars an hour. You might be making that to start, but the cream will rise to the top.
Wonder how much erneba gets in SS each month? Please, spend my tax dollars wisely.
It goes straight into a savings account for the education of my two grand kids. Fortunately, I don’t have to touch it. I just want to make sure that they go to college, are raised responsibly, and never have to worry about making seven dollars an hour.
You’re a good socialist. Why not let those kids earn their way instead of providing a free ride on the tax payer dime? Bernie would be proud.
They are earning it by being good responsible kids, and it is my money, just delayed in payment to me.
It’s money provided by taxpayers to you for simply being a US citizen. You’re taking that money and giving a couple of lazy brats a free ride. I hope they get a nice “safe space”. The way you talk about college students would really hurt their feelings. Your contributions were spent years ago. Our tax dollars are paying you now. Like I said… Bernie would be so proud of you.
SS and Medicare, two wonderful Democrat Programs.
“It’s money provided by taxpayers to you for simply being a US citizen.”
You only reap if you pay into the system, be a little fair.
I am not sure that I have consumer all the FICA taxes I payed along with my employers contributions at this point. I have not been on SS that long and frankly, I have not received back what I put into it.
You surely make many unfounded general and personal statements about people. Sounds like you have things figured out. If I thought like you, I too, would probably be a socialist.
I am not sure that I have consumed all the FICA taxes I payed along with my employers contributions at this point.
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did you vote for the war?
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_world_hypothesis
That’s some legacy for Obama.
Yeh reminds me when you Republicans drove the country into the worst recession since the Great Depressin .
That was a great legacy!
And then proposed making that goofball Palin ,who gives new meaning to the word “airhead, “VP
You would think as great as Obama is our economy would be booming and Bush is living with his legacy isn’t he.
I find it amusing you think everyone is either a Republican or Democrat.
the minimum wage is a blunt instrument. its the only wage that the government can influence. we can’t legislate increases to middle class salaries. we can only try to push up from the bottom. pointing out that there are flaws and downsides in raising the minimum wage is lazy ‘conservatism’. Labeling something ‘free-market’ or ‘socialism’ does not constitute an argument.
People sometimes forget that the true “minimum wage” is zero.
Not if you are making money and you need employees to run your business. Your cutesy Fox News quip not withstanding. Business is labor + capital + infrastructure. Without anyone of the three the business will fail.
“…if you are making money and you need employees to run your business” , presumably you would have to offer pay in order to get people to work for you.
On the other hand, if a position will cost you more in wages than it generates in additional revenue, you probably aren’t going to hire.
Yes, but the new higher paying jobs created from the additional spending that results from people earning more money will replace that super low paying job plus more. That is what the all the cities that have raised the minimum wage have experienced. Is there a top to that, yea. But we are not there yet. Higher minimum wages did not kill the economy in the 50s and 60s
In the 60’s when I was in high school, I made minimum wage then I joined the military and made less than minimum wage, of course the benefits were good. Know what else I did in the 60’s, paid taxes.
Some people will never earn a big salary or have a job with good benefits. Some people just don’t get talents or skills that can earn that kind of living. They still work, they often work damn hard, they should be able to make at the very least a meager living without relying on the government.
I don’t get how Republicans can be against both a living wage and welfare, a lack of the former necessitates the latter…
I don’t get how you think Republicans are against a living wage and welfare.
It’s in everything they write and say.
No it isn’t but keep saying it, your ilk will love you for it.
Against minimum wage, constantly bashing people on food stamps, you’re right conservatives never say anything bad about welfare or a living wage.
As soon as Trump kicks his ass in Florida we will not have to worry about him anymore. Can you even imagine this guy as President of the United States. President of Haiti maybe. But Jesus Christ, look at the guy. I mean can you see this weeny representing us on the world stage?
But you can see Trump as president? GTFO, moron.
Yes I can. And you will. I won’t call you names, because like a lot of Republicans you have been duped been duped by the establishment into believing that Cuban kid is capable of being a President.
Uh…..whatever. I’m voting for Bernie or Hillary. Both of them will destroy Trump in a general election. Thanks for helping put another Dem in the WH.
Unlike your attempt to use bigotry, “President of Haiti” and “Cuban kid”?
Do you have something against Cubans? What is wrong with being Cuban? By the way, the President of Haiti is black, not Hispanic. I guess to you Republican establishment types all minorities look alike.
No, but obviously you do. I don’t see you pointing out Trump’s German heritage, Fuhrer Trump. So what was the point in calling Rubio a “Cuban” kid. He is an American. Yes, most Haitians are black, so your wisecrack about President of Haiti made little sense.
I wish Fitsnews was paying attention to what Donald Trump said two years ago or even two days ago.
Folks isn’t paid to pay attention to the crypto-fascist. He’s paid to ignore it and write crap about Rubio.
Fits seems to have a new program which switches from article to article much faster than before. Is that done in an effort to log more clicks? Now, if I were an advertiser, that’s something I’d like to know.
“In the 20th century, it’s a disaster.”
Last I checked we were in the 21st century…