NOT BAD ENOUGH, IT SEEMS …
It’s no secret we are 100 percent on board with the populist overthrow of the “Republican” party – spearheaded by Donald Trump. But we are similarly enamored by “the Bern” – a.k.a. the insurgent Democratic presidential campaign of independent socialist U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont.
Make no mistake: Sanders ideas are terrible (thumbnail sketch here) – and he would be an unmitigated disaster as president.
But we see the potential for the populist wave he is riding to destroy official Democrat-dom the way Trump is taking a sledgehammer to the GOP establishment.
And that’s a beautiful thing …
Also, a Sanders’ victory in the Democratic primary would likely result in a far more honest debate in the November general election – including an opportunity for America to take a long, hard (and hopefully honest) look at the cancer that is socialist ideology.
Such a thorough review is long overdue.
Anyway … while we rejoice in the fact that both status quo parties are having serious base problems, we know Sanders is highly unlikely to “pull a Trump” in South Carolina and emerge victorious over the establishment in his party.
Hillary Clinton is going to win in the Palmetto State on Saturday … in fact, she’s going to win by a huge margin.
How huge?
We asked several Democratic operatives to give us their thoughts on Clinton’s “First in the South” spread … and you might be surprised to hear what they told us.
“I’m hoping for 20-30 percent,” one Clinton backer told us, quickly adding “I’d love for the ‘revolution’ to be over already.”
Whoa … why the hate?
“Sanders’ supporters are rather nasty online especially to women,” the operative said.
Oh right … we heard something about that. From this guy, of all people.
But what will Clinton’s spread actually be?
“Realistically I predict 16-18 percent,” the operative said.
That view is in line with several other crystal balls – including one held by a veteran Democrat who has worked on numerous statewide and congressional campaigns in South Carolina.
“Twenty points,” the operative told us.
It’s also in line with the prediction of a Democratic elected official who has been effusive in praising Clinton in recent weeks.
“Fifteen to twenty points,” the ex-pol told us. “If she has a good day.”
Oddly, the operative who predicted the largest margin of victory for Clinton – 28 percent – is a reluctant supporter.
“I’ll probably vote for her but not enthusiastically,” said the source, who is closely aligned to one of Clinton’s biggest public backers in the Palmetto State.
Operatives backing Sanders are more optimistic about his chances.
“Fourteen points,” one predicted.
“Ten points – if turnout tanks,” another opined, citing the possibility that some Clinton backers might stay home if they believe her victory is a foregone conclusion.
It is … but there’s no denying Sanders has made South Carolina far more interesting than anyone could have predicted.
In mid-November, aggregate polling from RealClearPolitics showed Clinton drawing 70.7 percent of the vote in the Palmetto State -compared to only 18 percent for Sanders. According to the latest data, Clinton has seen her support drop to 57.4 percent, while Sanders has climbed to 33.3 percent.
As a result Clinton’s lead has been slashed from 52.7 percent to 24.1 percent – which is even more amazing when you consider she has the state’s all-powerful black vote (which is expected to comprise between 55-60 percent of the Democratic primary electorate) all but sewn up.
Bottom line? Hillary Clinton will be a double-digit winner in South Carolina … but she’s in line to lose the expectations game much like she did in Iowa and Nevada.
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Kinda letting your anarchist flag fly, Will?
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But we are similarly enamored by “the Bern” –
LMAO! Fits’s boy! :
It wasn’t as bad as he says. His family managed to send him to the University of Chicago. Despite a prestigious degree, however, Sanders failed to earn a living, even as an adult. It took him 40 years to collect his first steady paycheck — and it was a government check.
“I never had any money my entire life,” Sanders told Vermont public TV in 1985, after settling into his first real job as mayor of Burlington.
Sanders spent most of his life as an angry radical and agitator who never accomplished much of anything. And yet now he thinks he deserves the power to run your life and your finances — “We will raise taxes;” he confirmed Monday, “yes, we will.”
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/bernie-sanders-the-bum-who-wants-your-money/
Unreasonably angry as usual I see. Sanders was fighting for civil rights while you were probably burning crosses on peoples’ lawns.
The only thing he was good at was talking … non-stop … about socialism and how the rich were ripping everybody off. “The whole quality of life in America is based on greed,” the bitter layabout said. “I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”
So he tried politics, starting his own socialist party. Four times he ran for Vermont public office, and four times he lost — badly. He never attracted more than single-digit support — even in the People’s Republic of Vermont. In his 1971 bid for U.S. Senate, the local press said the 30-year-old “Sanders describes himself as a carpenter who has worked with ‘disturbed children.’ ” In other words, a real winner.
No wonder you like him…he is a lying,agitating communist pervert just like YOU!!! LMAO!!!!
You seem like a very hateful person, what a shame. I will continue to pray that you find Jesus soon.
—– also interesting
Bernie is a great man. It seems like a lot of Dems believe Hillary may be a stronger candidate but really I think she is too scandal-scarred and honestly too much of a neocon. We need a real liberal for president. We need someone who can actually fix health care and social security. I don’t see that happening with Hillary, and I damn sure don’t see it happening with a Republican. God bless Bernie Sanders! Sanders 2016!
The Super Delegates will never let it happen, true democracy in action.
The general election is a democratic process. The party primaries are “democratic” processes. It is the price Bernie must pay for running as a Democratic candidate. With the way our country votes though he would not stand much of a chance running as independent or third party.
Super Delegates are only used for one thing, to control the Democrat Primary. that’s real democracy.
So for all these years Bernie didn’t want to be a Democrat but like all politicians will try to use the system to his advantage. He’s full of more BS than Hillary.
There are only two independents in Congress. Let’s face it, it’s a game everyone plays if they intend to win.
If Trump ran as an independent he would not have a chance to win either.
Yep, Trump and Sanders are just alike, all talk no substance. I didn’t vote for Trump but we all know who you will vote for.
lol…you voted for another loser…go figure
What, just an lol.
I doubt she’ll win South Carolina. I’m willing to bet on it.
I support Bernie but Hillary has a good chance of taking SC.
What a brilliant comment.Really? Dumb ass.
LMAO!!! Sip on that haterade fool!
I should wait until I’ve had two cups of coffee before reading here: I thought it read “beat off” …..
To Hillary? Gross dude.
We now know that you have good vision, Nolff!
:-)
Some kind of choice, one’s a Socialist the other under investigation.
Mainstreaming Sanders requires whitewashing his radical pro-communist past. It won’t be easy to do.
If Sanders were vying for a Cabinet post, he’d never pass an FBI background check. There’d be too many subversive red flags popping up in his file. He was a communist collaborator during the height of the Cold War.
You are so full of it, it leaks out when you waddle around.
After graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American People’s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as “America’s greatest Marxist.”
LMAO!!! There pogo goes again! Can’t write for himself so he copies and pastes from some crackpot sites!
In the early ’70s, Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies.
http://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/
Doesn’t sound like a socialist to me: “I don’t believe government should take over the grocery store down the street or own the means of production, but I do believe that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a decent standard of living and that their incomes should go up, not down. I do believe in private companies that thrive and invest and grow in America, companies that create jobs here, rather than companies that are shutting down in America and increasing their profits by exploiting low-wage labor abroad.”
IJReview:
Communist Party USA (CPUSA) has recently penned a 2,023-page open letter expressing its eagerness and enthusiasm on getting to work with the Democratic Party to “advance the modern communist agenda and achieve communist goals.”
You must not have a job to go around copying and pasting all this garbage.
That’s all happy, feel good rhetoric with no real explanation.
Who doesn’t believe “that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a decent standard of living and that their incomes should go up, not down.”?!?!
No one would ever admit otherwise even if they did disagree. Bernie is a Socialist for a reason, and that means he believes in redistribution- which is taking money from some people and giving it to others.
It doesn’t matter if he brands himself a “Social Democrat” or not, at the end of the day it’s all about redistribution.
“Bernie is a Socialist for a reason, and that means he believes in redistribution”
Doesn’t sound like you know what socialism is. Socialism isn’t “the government should tax and spend” no matter how badly you want to make it out to be that.
Social democrats believe in government taxing to fund programs to give people a better quality of life, but the means of production still remain in private hands. By definition that isn’t socialism.
If you want an example of an actual socialist you should look up Kshama Sawant. She once said of Boeing: “The workers should take over the factories, and shut down Boeing’s profit-making machine.” That is socialism.
Sanders also adopted a Soviet sister city outside Moscow and honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.
Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council — a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to “the triumph of Soviet power in the US.”
Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.
http://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/
Pogo, the brain works much like a computer. I think you may still have a commodore 64, it might be time to upgrade.
Anything above false? NO!
Pogo, are you a CNN writer or maybe you work for fox? hmmm, i wonder….
I work for God.
No wonder you are stupid. You work for a made up figure that a bunch of dead men wrote in a stupid book.
Hey guys, the 1950’s called…..
While attending the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
Pogo, you should really go see a doctor, i don’t think you’re thinking clearly.
Facts bother you?
Your lack of facts makes you sound like a mental patient.
the youth are winning; time to start listening
Pogo, did you fall off your pogo stick and hit your head? You sound a little disoriented.
What’s Bernie under investigation for? Oh, you mean the other Socialist…
The failure of Black leadership will consolidate their vote behind her. Your typical house negroes, Bakari Sellers, Todd Rutherford, Jim Clyburn, I. S. Leevy, John Lewis, Elijah Cummings, et al are basking in Hillary’s funk & loving the stink. She, evidently has not sought the support of our infamous mayor who is probably holding out for more payola. The state of Black America is sad indeed:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIHc84VYALQ
—– interesting thoughts
Kind of like the GOP led Congress.
Dream Team 2016 …Trump and Sanders. If you think that won”t beat Hilldabeast, you are wrong.
That “dream team” would do for the purveyors of men’s hair care what JFK’s failure to wear a hat to his inauguration did for the haberdashery industry. And it wouldn’t do much for the rest of us either…
Hillary will win big, which is why I voted for “the Donald” last Saturday.
The Donald will make her cry again…he is the one candidate that they fear the most. He had Bill sounding like he was on his death bed. Bernie could knock her out but he’s afraid to attack her from every angle.
The candidate I fear the most is Cruz. Not because I think he can win but rather because of what he would do if he did win. The candidate to be feared most for winning potential is Rubio. He can contrast the old (Hill or Bern) with the new better than the rest. Of course, the “new” isn’t really new because he trots out the same old policies of tax cuts and deregulation that have obliterated the middle class in this country.
You are correct, Cruz is one of the crazies. Trump would be bad but at least he supports a wide variety of things and would be totally against the Republican establishment. He would work with Democrats if he had to even. Cruz would be stubborn and shut the government down even on his own party until his policies are accepted and obliterates our country.
These people are being reported as consulting with Trump on economic, drug and education policy.
Art Laffer, Stephen Moore, Rudy Giuliani and Bill Bennett.
Ouch!
Nevada is a low population of blacks and lots of Mormon’s, hence its Bernie country.
SC has a lot of blacks and they still roam the Clinton plantation.
Dems are uncomfortable with the fact that racism still exists in their party as well.
Bernie supports the Black Lives Matter movement, he will have plenty of support from African Americans.
Blacks see Bernie as the white people’s champion, you’re going to see that in the election here in SC.
All Dems support BLM, it’s a non-issue.
Hillary “supports” it as in she pays it the barest amount of lip service she has to.
Bernie Sanders – Houston Communist Party
houstoncommunistparty.com/category/bernie-sanders/
Wow didn’t know you got your news from a communist website. Well you are atheist so you being communist too wouldn’t be too far fetched. Have a nice day pinko.
It doesn’t matter whether she’s insincere or not, it only matter who blacks believe/trust- & they trust her more than Bernie. Polls show it, etc.
Doesn’t matter.Traitor Obama just broke the law again and is closing Gitmo and sending terrorists to Charleston,Sc.
Obama fucked the Democrat Party and just defeated Sen.Bennett (D) in Colorado.
I think what Clinton has going for her is name recognition and a false sense by many Democrats that she will get more accomplished in office. Guessing she will also try to bus people to the polls to bolster her numbers.
Bernie is able to put a drive in people to show up in the polls, it’s just whether or not he can get enough, which I doubt he can.
I’m not predicting a Bernie victory in this state but I do believe he has a chance.
Outside the NE, Bernie’s support is mostly younger people. That’s not going to win him the nomination – he needs the minorities and some of the older white vote.
Bernie does not deserve to win or make a good show. He refused to hit Hillary on her lying and her email debacle.
She had a big, full bull’s eye on her fat ass, and Bernie apologetically refused to go there.
Agreed, only people that degrade others deserve to be president. Such brilliance!
Bernie has spent his life ‘degrading’ America as a communist pervert.
Again, idiots like to say scary words. He is no Communist; in fact he isn’t even a pure Socialist.
move to saudi arabia or israel.
you should live with terrorists; you think like one
He would not have degraded her, just question her motives for setting up an illegal State Department email server.
This is America Bernie forgets one thing it’s the shit that floats to the top that gets the attention not the truth. Honesty will never win an election in America the people are not ready for honesty.
Perhaps he felt there were more important matters to discuss. Besides, it’s not as if anybody thinks she’s got integrity – not even her supporters believe it.
Harpootlian has Bernie behind in single digits once the votes are counted
Well Said. My only counterpoint would be that he has his reputation and integrity while the other side will deflect and obfuscate. He is sticking to his principles when he put the smug Al Hunt in place, “Win or lose, we will do it honestly” – hopefully it is a win. We will see.
so you will be voting for a sociopath instead?
No, I am leaving Hillary out of my mix.
Two weeks ago I sent an email to a leader of the Democrats in North Carolina. In it, I told him that Donald Trump would obviously win SC. But, not by as large a percentage as expected. Because, many Independents, Trump Supporters, GOP crossovers, etc. were going to wait and vote for Bernie Sanders in this weeks Democratic Primary against Hillary Clinton. And, I was right. Trump won, but not as massively as Polls projected.
Now, those voters, along with numerous progressives and smart young Black SC Citizens, will deny Hillary the giant win she is expecting. She may win, but not by much. I hope my predictions continue to hold true.
Like myself, one tends to put Hillary’s potential problems with her mail server/mishandling of secure documents/selling government favors through the Clinton foundation, on the back burner.
This scandal really has the potential to upset Hillary’s Presidential aspirations. Remember a few weeks ago, there was talk of keeping Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, etc., in the stable in case Hillary’s problems evolve into a full-blown legal issue. Hillary’s legal issues have stayed off the front page thanks in part to the Republicans and their wild primaries. And the MSM will not explore the issue unless they are absolutely force to do so. But Hillary’s issues still persists and will not go away
There is actually more question marks and intrigue associated with the Democrat field of candidates.
It is going to be fun to watch.
Folks have grown complacent with the talk of E Mails ; they think it will go away but it will not because it is far more serious than Watergate …Hillary must know she is doomed , she may be angling for a kind of plea bargain with a pardon from Obama when he leaves office …when she drops out any delegates she has won are free to vote for anyone they please , or someone she endorses like Biden …700 Super delegates are free to vote for anyone of their choosing and if Biden jumps in by late march he can still get into the last primaries such as California and build up momentum
Delegates are only pledged to vote for their candidate on the first Ballot , after that anything goes
I came, I Saw…….and Hillary is handcuffed…!
Benghazi Fits operation ……..408
the DNC will enjoy trump very much, if they choose Shillary to represent the DNC instead of bernie
Bernie is a “Sudden” Democrat….who has never been asked to give a speech to anyone because he’s been giving the same speech for 40 years – all without a plan for execution.
Bernie’s actually kinda Republican, that way. Lots of talk, but no action. Good cheerleader. But a Republican Gamecock said it best.
“Bernie’s a Cheerleader. Clinton is the quarterback.”