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Donald Trump Is Wrong On Apple

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CorruptionInColumbia February 22, 2016 at 9:09 am

I concur, Fits! While I still feel that Trump is our only hope that this country might be able to repair itself, I also 100% disagree with him on the Apple issue.

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idcydm February 22, 2016 at 10:02 am

I would agree with you on the Apple issue if it were a personal phone. I believe that Apple can get into that phone right now if they wanted to.

Do you want to know what is on Government employee Hillary Clinton’s private server?

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CorruptionInColumbia February 22, 2016 at 12:57 pm

Hi idcydm!! The problem with this particular issue is that if they develope the means to crack the phone or phones in this case, they have developed the means to crack all such phones. Then the Government will be abusing the process at every turn, as they do anything else, right now.

This is nothing more than another case of the Government being butt hurt because somebody made something they aren’t able to stick their noses into.

A poster on a website I occasionally visit related to LE things made a great point about the importance of what was on this phone or the lack thereof. He noted that the terrorists went to great lengths to destroy their personal phones before they died, but not the county-owned phone or phones. Any info of importance was probably on the destroyed phones.

Given the massive amounts of data the NSA et al is said to collect on everyday citizens in the US, who have done nothing suspicious or wrong, I don’t understand why they don’t go dig through that. You’d think all that snooping and spying would have accomplished something by now, but it didn’t catch this pair, the Boston Marathon bombers, or anyone else that I can think of.

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idcydm February 22, 2016 at 1:19 pm

I understand where you are coming from but I believe they can get all the information right now. Hell they designed the damn thing, do you think they don’t already have a process to get into it.

It’s all smoke and mirrors from both sides.

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Flip February 22, 2016 at 9:22 am

Wrong on Apple but right on being pro choice and for universal health care.

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Tom February 22, 2016 at 9:40 am

I think he is probably wrong on Apple, but the Government says it is not trying to get Apple to put a backdoor into all of its devices. What they are asking in this suit is that apple find a way to decrypt this one phone. Nothing more. Apple says that is a slippery slop they do not want to start down. It is a lot more nuanced moral, ethical and liberty v. Security issue than you make it out to be.

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The Colonel (R) February 22, 2016 at 9:40 am

“…This website has full-on embraced the chaos that is Donald Trump…”

The understatement of the year – “…the chaos that is (will be) Donald Trump…”

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pogo February 22, 2016 at 10:10 am

It is only chaos for RINO’s like you.Either get on board to defeat the evil Democrat Party or get the hell out of the way.We are gonna win with or without ya.

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mamatiger92 February 22, 2016 at 10:18 am

The irony is that Trump is the absolute definition of a RINO. Wake up, flip.

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Flip February 22, 2016 at 10:22 am

If Republicans could be more progressive like Trump is on some issues maybe they would win the White House. Until then we’ll just keep calling them out for who, and what, they are.

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The Colonel (R) February 22, 2016 at 10:24 am

If “Republicans” were any more “progressive” they’d be Socialists like most Dimocrats

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Flip February 22, 2016 at 10:24 am

Socialism doesn’t mean “more government”

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The Colonel (R) February 22, 2016 at 10:27 am

So·cial·ism ?s?SH??liz?m
noun
A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Yes, by definition, Socialism requires “more gubamint” to supervise the “collective” – that’s why all Socialist gubamints eventually fail.

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Flip February 22, 2016 at 10:33 am

You should look up libertarian socialisim or social anarchism, not every socialist believes in a strong central government.

Universal health care as we have it today isn’t true socialism because we still rely on privately held insurance companies, not to mention private hospitals, pharmaceuticals, medical device manufacturers and so on. Means of production still clearly in the hands of the capitalists.

Bernie Sanders isn’t even a socialist. He is a social democrat. He has already publicly stated that he doesn’t think the means of production should change hands. He’s just a pro-government capitalist at the end of the day.

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pogo February 22, 2016 at 10:35 am

Sanders is a COMMUNIST in the mold of Stalin,Castro and Chavez.A dangerous individual.

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Flip February 22, 2016 at 10:36 am

There’s no way a communist would call themselves a socialist and no way a socialist would be fine with the means of production staying in the hands of capitalists. Nice try though. Is your kool aid cherry or grape flavor?

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The Colonel (R) February 22, 2016 at 10:23 am

I was going to point that out and then I thought – why bother…

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mamatiger92 February 22, 2016 at 10:23 am

It’s like a cult.

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Flip February 22, 2016 at 10:26 am

Pogo and his old buddy Tango love cult mentality. Don’t think for yourself just blindly follow whoever or whatever until you’re in one big room sipping kool aid.

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pogo February 22, 2016 at 10:33 am

That was Obama’s following.How else could an American hating ‘closet’ Muslim and appeaser of this countries enemies get elected if they weren’t brainwashed by the MSM and state controlled schools?

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Flip February 22, 2016 at 10:35 am

Then you must hate America because America elected him twice.

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pogo February 22, 2016 at 10:39 am

He destroyed the Democrat Party.They lost everything.House,senate,state legislatures…why they need Amnesty…

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Flip February 22, 2016 at 10:42 am

But he still won in 2012. We still have CONSTITUTIONAL and LAWFUL health care reform. We have legalized gay marriage. Obama is #winning. America is #winning.

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The Colonel (R) February 22, 2016 at 10:45 am

It isn’t like a cult, it is a cult: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality

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pogo February 22, 2016 at 10:28 am

Bottom line.Democrats need a new class of voters-illegals/Amnesty/path to citizenship.

Trump+ Wall+deportation+NO Amnesty+NO path to citizenship=NO Democrat Party

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Flip February 22, 2016 at 3:44 pm

Democrats don’t need a new class of voters. They have the lower and middle classes.

Republicans need a new class of voters, because there aren’t enough rich people to keep them elected and all the elderly folks are dying off.

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Flip February 22, 2016 at 10:23 am

Trump won’t defeat Clinton, he’s been her pal for a long time and has even given her money. Trump is doing this all for Hillary.

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The Colonel (R) February 22, 2016 at 10:25 am

Apparently, everybody has given Hillary money. The only difference between Hill and your average whore is that no one would ever consider doing the (very literal) “nasty” with her…

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Flip February 22, 2016 at 10:27 am

Good point!

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idcydm February 22, 2016 at 9:41 am

What I find amazing about this, the owner of the phone, a government entity (fed, state or local), is so inept as to not retain access to all information on their phone a government employee is using.

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idiotwind February 22, 2016 at 11:46 am

so you really believe apple doesn’t already have the ability to do this? and without going near the phone? and isn’t protecting their own prerogatives while riling up defenders in the edward snowden/area 51 crowd? ok…

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TontoBubbaGoldstein February 22, 2016 at 2:08 pm

the edward snowden/area 51 crowd…

You rang?

: )

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HD February 22, 2016 at 11:51 am

This website has *been paid to* full-on embrace the chaos that is Donald Trump …

FTFY

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9" February 22, 2016 at 1:15 pm

Trump has promised to overturn the Supreme Court’s gay marriage ruling.For an ‘outsider’,he sure has learned to play the game real fast;make a lot of promises you know you can’t keep.

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CorruptionInColumbia February 22, 2016 at 1:24 pm

Oh for real? One of the things I have heretofore admired about him was his lack of pandering to the religious nutters. If accurate, this is disappointing.

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CorruptionInColumbia February 22, 2016 at 3:08 pm

Shit. That is disappointing. Hopefully, he is (which I do find troubling) pandering to the blue noses in words only.

A friend who was working for a large international corporation had a number of gay and lesbian co-workers in his office four years ago. He told how a lot of them were really conservative people, who were fiscally conservative, gun owners, and held many of the same beliefs and values that he did, except that they were gay. He said quite a few wound up voting for 0bama, and hating it, probably feeling as I did when I voted for McCain in 2008. Understandably, he noted, they just could not vote for a Presidential candidate or a party that seemed hell bent on cutting their throats regarding issues of equal (not superior) rights. I asked why they didn’t vote for the Libertarian candidate to show their dissatisfaction with the Republican/Romney camp. He said some wanted Romney soundly defeated that badly and that a few he talked with did pick the Libertarian.

I hope Trump wakes up and backs off of these bullshit issues. Equal rights for the gay or lesbian couple down the street from me are not hurting me. There are more pressing issues that ARE hurting this country and which he has addressed. He needs to focus on them.

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9" February 22, 2016 at 3:37 pm

I don’t think he’s being too real on the issue.At my age,I don’t trust any politician,and marriage is not a big deal,unless you or The Colonel is ready to say,I do:-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXuyQILJ-yc

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TontoBubbaGoldstein February 22, 2016 at 2:17 pm

Wrong on Apple, wrong on torture, right on immigration…

TBG doesn’t agree with a great deal of what Trump is selling, but the fact that he drives mainstream Republicans and Democrats apoplectic, combined with the fact that he is correct on the critical issue of border security, is enough for TBG.

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CorruptionInColumbia February 22, 2016 at 3:11 pm

Yep!

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Joe February 23, 2016 at 8:06 am

The big question … Why is a county government handing out $600 Iphones to employees? Certainly there is a more cost effective communication solution.

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AmericanIndependent121 February 23, 2016 at 5:28 pm

So what’s the consensus here? Vote for Hillary the serial liar? No thanks! I’d take either Sanders or Trump any day!

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