LETTER ALLEGES JOHNNY JEFFCOAT USED HIS POSITION TO GET GOVERNMENT GIG, HUGE PAY RAISES
A group of taxpayers in Lexington County, S.C. is urging the S.C. State Ethics Commission (SCSEC) to launch an investigation into county council chairman Johnny W. Jeffcoat.
Our readers may recall Jeffcoat as the politician who has been pushing an eight-year, $300 million tax hike at the county level – and the guy who successfully lobbied the town of Lexington, S.C. to pass a $2.1 million annual tax hike last year.
Oh … he’s also the guy who has referred to tax hike opponents in Lexington (like the founding editor of this website) as Mormons.
Anyway …
The group, which goes by the name of “People for a Better Lexington,” sent a letter to SCSEC executive director Herb Hayden earlier this month alleging Jeffcoat “improperly used his position as an elected official on County Council to secure high-paid employment for himself in the Town of Lexington.”
Additionally, the group alleges Jeffcoat has “used his official office to secure annual pay increases for his town position that were above and beyond what was available to town employees.”
“We are alleging that Councilman Jeffcoat violated the state’s ethics laws … which prohibit elected officials from knowingly using their official office to obtain an economic interest for themselves and from influencing a governmental decision in which they have an economic interest,” the letter stated. “On behalf of thousands of hard-working government employees and taxpayers in Lexington County, we respectfully ask that the State Ethics Commission investigate Councilman Jeffcoat’s conduct.”
According to the complaint, Jeffcoat got his job with the town of Lexington in 2010 – earning a salary of $14,601. In 2011, he secured a $51,811 annual pay increase – following by an $8,974 annual pay increase the following year. In 2013, he received a $10,196 pay hike and last year he was given another pay increase of $4,889.66.
Jeez … no wonder this guy is lobbying hard for tax hikes to subsidize government growth …
Jeffcoat reported his salary as “personal income” on his filings with the SCSEC – although in 2015 he listed his salary (which had grown to more than $90,000 a year) – as “family income.”
He also receives more than $20,000 annually from county taxpayers.
“These monies were given to Councilman Jeffcoat during a time of great financial pressure on many families in Lexington County, as they struggled through the economic recession, with many people losing their jobs and homes,” the group’s letter to the ethics commission read.
Indeed …
Will the SCSEC follow up and investigate Jeffcoat?
Based on its track record in the past, we doubt it …
This agency is as toothless as it is gutless. Also, even if it did conduct a formal investigation – the SCSEC is notorious for issuing slaps on the wrist to influential politicians.
Jeffcoat is not seeking reelection in 2016, although he continues to push for tax hikes at the county level.
We continue to oppose those hikes on principle …
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He doesn’t approve his salary with the Town, Town Council does by way of its budget adopted by ordinance and administered by Town staff. His role at County Council does not approve his Town salary or position. When did whether Lexington County families are struggling economically become part of the State Ethics Act? This is a political grievance, and those opposed should take their complaints to the proper venue, Lexington Town Council.
The point is, people struggle to keep a roof over their heads, water and power to their homes, a means of transportation, and food on the table, as these scum continually push for tax increases that aren’t needed so they can feed their greed.
Yet there are idiots who always seem to believe if we just give them more of our money, for some reason they will choose yo spend it properly, THIS time. Really????
I’m in agreement that plenty of people are struggling economically, and that tax increases worsen their load. However, there’s no law against promoting tax increases. The point is, it is a waste of time to make what is inherently a political position, when alleging someone has broken the law. In this case it makes no sense to include that as an allegation of alleged legal misconduct by Jeffcoat or include it in a complaint to the Ethics Commission.
I understand your point in part, but everytime these slimeballs like Jeffcoat snd Summers push for a tax increase, it is because they have figured a way to personally profit from it. I say let them deal with the annoyance of an investigation each time they try this, at least.
Seems like at one time, I read that Summers was some bigwig at Harvest Hope Food Bank. I guess at a minimum, she wants to increase dependency on that institution.
“respectfully ask that the State Ethics Commission”
Why should anyone have to “respectfully ask”? How about a simple “Do you damn job!”?
The are either going to do it or not- and probably not. They are no different from SLED, they serve the purpose of creating the appearance of checks & balances, nothing more.
I heard the other day that the owner of Benton boats hired the Lexington mayor to run a restaurant at night(where Gilligan’s used to be), sounds like yet another payoff to me. Anyone know if the rumor is true?
http://www.thestate.com/news/business/article59154548.html
Looks like he was right after all.
You notice in that comment section two people calling Deese an ass and one saying he owes a ton of people money in Lexington and Columbia?
If he owns a ton of people money, how is he starting a restaurant with the Mayor as manager?
*owes
I recently conversed with a young lady who noted the “Mr D’s” going up not far from the new Captain D’s in Lexington and what a crummy, potentially confusing, name for them to pick. I told her that it will probably at least get interesting for them when the Captain D’s corporate attorneys look into it, whether anything comes of it or not.
When and where will we have a King D’s?
Why such low asspirations?!
Give em time!
:-)
Mr. D is probably Captain D after he retired from the Navy.
No clue about the relationship between those two but it would not surprise me one bit.
Steve is a stand up guy. He owned a restaurant in the Vista for years and managed Hudson’s BBQ before becoming mayor, You couldn’t ask for a better guy.
Metts, Myers, Frazier, Halfacre, Jeffcoat, Owens!
Charleston County, Williamsburg County and Horry County use to be the most corrupt, immoral and dishonest in the State. It now seems Lexington County has taken the lead by leaps and bounds!
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Oh don’t forget Mayor Tbone, Tameka Isaac, and the rest of the black mafia morons in Richland County!
I totally agree!
The South Carolina State Ethics Commission was a strong, working watchdog for South Carolinians for years…until Nikki Haley packed the vacancies left by the lazy beyond all comprehension Mark Sanford with her toadies and they emasculated Herb Hayden and ran off Cathy Hazelwood.
Bullsh*t. They have been tools of the powerful, persecuting enemies and enabling friends.
Place needs a complete overhaul, and has needed one for 30 years.
I heard Sam Griswold is under investigation, again. Anyone know if that is true?
Sam helped the investment Commission lose $7 billion and the Obama Health Co-Op lose $80 million. That is impressive!
Oh,, What a super man we have in him!!! A lot better than Curtis Melvin Loftis who sits on the Investment Commission and has a vote on what the commission does… Loftis is part of the problem not the solution. He cannot provide anything positive and he has been on the Investment Commission for the past 6 years!.. Not qualified , no education, no smarts… no knowledge in finance… Lost millions from the trust fund of retirees but his intimate buddy got well paid…
Poor Sam. He is an aged man that covets other people’s money. He has cost the taxpayers billions. Did he keep any of it? Who knows?
Sam, member of the State Retirees Association. Helping the Commission to Lose $7 billion. So so bad!
Question? What are you talking about? Curtis Loftis is an aged man with a contagious vile… gross. He has been on the Investment Commission for 6 years! With a vote ! He is part of the problem.. Gross man with the brain of a roach. He must be replaced by the legislature with someone who is qualified… Period. Enough of his crap.. Enough…
Sam Griswold. Impotent, fat, old man with ager issues. Always attacking Alan Wilson, Herb Hayden and Curtis Loftis.
Stop, fat old man, please stop. You are sending your soul to hell!
Herb Hayden needs to get his head out of his ass…and take action on Ethics violations by politicians and elected officials… The dishonorable Curtis Loftis has several complaints filed several years ago and they are still floating in space… Shame on the State Ethics Commission… Corruption there .. and corruption in the AG, Alan Wilson…covering the ass of corrupted officials.
The AG, Alan Wilson, needs to do his job… elected to fight corruption and respect the law..and not covering corruption, refusing to answer FOIA requests by honest citizens and coming with opinions after the facts to protect the crooks. He cannot run for governor with that reputation… Do your job, Alan Wilson. Herb Hayden, do your job… That is all we ask.. Do your job… The tax payers pay your salaries… and they vote…
Sam Griswold helped the Retirement System lose $7.1 billion dollars.
That is a legacy that even Al Capone could be proud of!
Hello, Curtis Melvin Loftis… a law suit could be coming your way. Too stupid to know better. The state treasurer is showing his ass.
You, Sam Griswold, love other people’s money.
You and Bonnie and Clyde would have been a great team.
Sam COVETS money, especially other people’s money. I suppose that is why he talks trash about Herb Hayden, Alan Wilson and Curtis Loftis.
Go to bed… You are drunk and this makes you very stupid
Covets??? You had too much to drink.. and you must go to bed… Simple question;; Who pays for Loftis’s attorneys in the multiple violations against him? And who agreed with the payments… The tax payers of this State? We, the tax payers do not want to pay for ethics violations and we do want to cover the ass of Curtis Melvin Loftis. Alan Wilson will agree with us. And He should agree with the tax payers who vote in this State.
Sam, are you going to sue Alan Wilson and Herb Hayden too? Are you going to use your intimate friend Reynolds Williams as your lawyer?
You are sure a very sick man, Curtis Melvin Liftis and you make no sense at all. Stop drinking and go to bed now., now..
Why does Sam Griswold talk so badly about Herb Hayden and Alan Wilson?
Why?
You need to go to bed and stop drinking now… In the morning, you will see how ridiculous you are and people will know , for sure , that you have no morals, no education, no respect . Stupid is and stupid does…
Poor Sam Griswold. So full of hate.
Sold his soul for so little money.
Loftis is guilty as sin and he knows it… Hired intimate friend with whom he is associated… profited. 2 million dollars… from State retirees… Shame. Paid out of the book of the STO. No records, no trace. Where did that money go? Some money could be in his pockets and no-one would know! Transparency… We demand an answer from Curtis Melvin Loftis.. Where did that money go?
Oh, poor filthy liar. So active in your life of sin.Why do you hate Alan Wilson, Herb Hayden and Curtis Loftis? Because they are not liars like you?
I bet if you look under the rock the “People for a Better Lexington” crawled out from, you will find they are same bunch of malcontents that call themselves the Campaign for Liberty. This is nothing more than an attempt to throw mud around, so they can discredit the effort to have the penny tax on the ballot for November.
/// According to the complaint, Jeffcoat got his job with the town of Lexington in 2010 – earning a salary of $14,601. In 2011, he secured a $51,811 annual pay increase – following by an $8,974 annual pay increase the following year. In 2013, he received a $10,196 pay hike and last year he was given another pay increase of $4,889.66. ///
If that is all true, he needs to go.
Can you prove that it is NOT true?
If you can’t, STFU, “JimBob.”
And go fetch Terry another cup of coffee. He’s taken to calling you an Ohio carpetbagger, so you’d best try to get back on his good side.
I can smell a pogo post from light years away.
Hi Johnny (Jeffcoat)! Good to see you weigh in on the tax increases you always are pushing for. Or are you Debbie Summers, who always seems to be pushing for a tax increase, too?
Self-serving, greedy, cockroack bastards, bitches, snd whores.
Jeffcoat in Lex. or Aiken county must be like Locklear in Roberson county?
Must be a lot of inbreeding.
Keeping it All in the Family over here:
http://www.thestate.com/news/local/article21254349.html
Moved here in November seems there is a Jeffcoat or a Shealy on every corner
You catch on, quickly! Being aware of a problem is the first step in dealing with it.
jimlewisowb doesn’t call them cockroaches for nothin’ that’s for sure!
“I don’t want anybody to give anything to my son just because I’m his father but I don’t want him to be penalized for that,”
Once they get the government work in their blood is goes on for generations.
From the linked article:
“He is the son of County Councilman Johnny Jeffcoat of Irmo, town economic development director since 2009. The senior Jeffcoat didn’t influence the decision and there is no problem with having both on the town payroll, MacDougall said. “Those two positions don’t overlap at all,” the mayor said.
The senior Jeffcoat said his son got the job on his own merits. “I don’t want anybody to give anything to my son just because I’m his father but I don’t want him to be penalized for that,” he said.”
Two words: BULL SHIT
City of West Columbia ex city councilman BJ Unthank was just hired as business and economic development director, even when they lose they when.
Piranha feasting on the taxpayer carcass. Once the blood hits the water you can’t keep them off.
Johnny also has a beach house on Harbor Island, off the Beaufort coast.Must be nice1
A source very close to the situation told me that Johnny pushed Jimmy Metts into hiring Danny Frazier. Wonder why? Did Johnny get a piece of that gambling pie, or was there another reason?
Called you a Mormon, eh Will? Most of the Jeffcoats in the Carolinas are Lutheran.
Watch out. He might try to have you excommunicated. Or whatever it is we do.
(I have recently joined a Lutheran church, and am just getting my bearings. I may need new bearings for my knees, soon, too. All that kneeling, you know …)
Oh God, do they get into that kneeling shit or what?!? I have family that was devout Lutheran and they used to badger me about going to church with them all the damn time. Against my will, I went a few times and did not enjoy it. Stand, sit, squat, kneel, sit, stand, squat, kneel, stand…..
Felt like I had been to a damn gym when it finally let out.
True Story: When stationed in DC my best buddy invited me to stay with his family over Christmas. They were Catholic and were going to a Christmas morning service. They didn’t want to leave me alone so they found a Baptist church on the way. They dropped me off and left. The church wasn’t open so I was sitting on the steps wondering what to do. Suddenly tires screeched and his mother yelled” get in”. She realized that there were no cars in the Baptist church parking lot so she came back to check. Saved me from freezing to death in Louisville, KY! So I attended the Catholic service which was interesting except for one thing — you got it! Sit-Stand-Kneel, etc & etc ..!!
Yeah, my ex-wife was Catholic. I conformed to all the movements and routines when I attended services, but never conformed to the religious beliefs, inside or outside the church.
I was married in a Catholic church in Germany. The entire story is interesting and I’ll post something on it later. My ex and her mother only attended services on Easter and Christmas.
That’s why she is your ex-wife stupid. So your is new wife is a black muslim?
Sit, Fred, Sit.
Boring asshole.
Da boy done be party buddy with randy, danny, jake, leon and ted. check it out.
Appears former Mayor Halfwit has been replaced by Mayor MacFuckougall, the “ougall” being the taxpayers
Didn’t take long for the new Mayor Little Cockroach to become a full sized Mother Fucking Cockroach
Read that Mayor MacFuckougall was the front man for the new Steak/Seafood Joint where Gilligan’s used to be
Odds are I will bypass their offerings – any place that full of goddamn Cockroaches is bound to give one the runs after a visit
As for Cockroach Turncoat, he may not be up for reelection but it will be years before his slime trail disappears from Lexington County
In days gone by, he would have been one of the folks that the locals tarred and feathered and then run out of town.
What an ass hat.
What a damn shame that custom went away!
Maybe he will end up at Butner like Metts and Breibart..
I would love to see that!!!! I also hope he has a lot of “home boys” (and girls) from the Lexington political scene to keep him company while he’s there.
Hmm…..I wonder if he is related to Lydia Jeffcoat..? Maybe get her to go have a chat with him…
You people just don’t get it. The SC Ethics Commission has nothing to do with enforcing ethics laws. The staff are controlled by powerful interest, Senator Leatherman most specifically, and the staff use the ambitious laws to persecute enemies and enable friends.
Please, people, get this simple thought in your head then everything they do becomes clear.
Don’t worry too much about Jeffcoat’s finances—when he retires from rippin…ah…serving the public on council he will
Be joining Raghead and Andre and Danny who strangely—even with a “new” sheriff—do video poker extensively still
And if they run out of space in Andre’s warehouses then they’ll just scout around for Lexington County terrain
And get their OTHER arrogant BFF Debbie Summers to get the land—as on Corley Mill Road—by eminent domain !!!
You sound like someone who knows their Lexington County politics, well!
Well now…Karma is not just a girl in India and when Lexington County’s “statesmen” get buried in their own rut
Better know those chickens ARE coming home to roost and yes it IS Karma that will be biting them square in the… !!!
Maybe Maddox rd.
Fuck Johnny jeffcoat! He is a worthless, lying POS. Johnny also lobbied for his son Brian to be get over a $70,000 yearly salary with the town of lexington as their municipal judge. But leeches like the jeffcoats will attach themselves to government jobs and suck as much as they can from the taxpayers as long as we and town council allows them to. So, I think the answer is simple, VOTE OUT MAYOR & TOWN COUNCIL AND FIRE THE JEFFCOAT LEECHES!!
In the photo accompanying this article, Johnny looks like 9″ just rammed him from behind, kinda like Johnny enjoys doing the citizens of Lexington County.
… with apologies to 9″.
Whatever happened to that Ethics Complaint against Curtis Loftis for diverting $2 million to his old fraternity brother and business partner? It was supposed to have been heard 9/16/2015 but was cancelled the day before and has not been heard of again. Looks like Herb Hayden and the Ethics Commission are as crooked as the rest of them. Good luck, Lexington County. Don’t expect relief from the Ethics Commission. If you’re an elected official you are immune from the law in this state. Shameful!
Heard that the AG, Alan Wilson, is protecting Curtis Loftis and that the tax payers are paying for Loftis’s attorneys! All is well in SC and all is well with the State Ethics Commission! Yes, indeed.. good luck, Lexington County . What a disgrace we have in this State.. corruption in the State Treasurer, corruption in the AG, corruption in city council…
Who are Loftis’s attorneys and who pays for their efforts? Could it be the tax payers… paying for the corruption and the corrupted Curtis Melvin Loftis? If so, who approved those attorneys and their payments? We must be informed and must see transparency ….
Sam Griswold,
Why do you trash Herb Hayden and Alan Wilson? Why?
Why do you stay so close to other people’s money? Why did you watch the investment Commission lose $7 billion? In fact, you helped them.
Is that why you trash talk Alan Wilson and Herb Hayden all day?
STFU, Loftis… You sit on the commission and you vote with the commission.. You have not proposed one thing … The sessions are recorded and are all in archives and you can see them again to refresh your sick, faulty memory. You are part of the problem and you are an idiot… We know you ..
Poor Sam Griswold. Aged man that loves only money.
Poor Sam, you can’t take it with you.
Poor Curtis Melvin Loftis… Aged man with infected diseases… Contagious… Stay away from our young men and children… and go to bed and stop drinking…. You are drunk… Gross.
Poor Sam. No hard on in 20 years, Stinks, and constantly hating on Herb Hayden and Alan Wilson. Maybe you are jealous of their erections and proper grooming.
Curt, you are drunk… Go to bed now… We tried but we failed… Poor Curtee. Sick and drunk… We told you to stop drinking … too mentally challenged and booze.. Not good..
Hating Sam Griswold. Why do you hate Herb Hayden and Alan Griswold and Curtis Loftis.
Poor Sam, self hating. So sad.
Maybe if Sam did not covet the public’s money he would not be such a self-hating old fat ass.
Loftis, go to bed… You are a blooming idiot under the influence… Sound familiar.. Loftis voting under the influence. Loftis under the influence. Heard that before… Sick of the man. Gay man ? Gross man?
Sam Griswold,
You are so angry. Seek help.
Stop your sinful ways. Can the Investment Commission pay you enough to make you sell your soul?
Alan Griswold? Loftis is so drunk he cannot remember the issue… A very simple question… Who pays for the attorneys in the ethics violations against Curtis Melvin Loftis? And who approved that transaction? Simple questions,deserve simple answers… simple
Reynolds Griswold, do you have any of the money left?All that money. Wow, all that money. And you covet even more!
Loftis, you are so drunk… go to bed… now.. You make a fool of yourself.. Please , go to bed…
“During the course of their marriage, he showed little interest in their sex life, was cold and indifferent to her needs and desires.. Mr. Loftis was abusive to her, cursed her and used foul language .. on the evening of Feb 2, 1990 Mr. Loftis approached her as she was leaving the capitol City Club , forced his ways into her auto harassed and intimated her with threats of litigation and pushed her to the ground..” Curtis Melvin Loftis has not changed since 1990… Violence, intimidation, Gross behavior toward women and young men…
Sam Griswold and Howard Duval are board members of the SC Retiree Asso. Sam hates AG Wilson. Does Howard Duval hate AG Wilson too?
Are they under investigation?
No, Curtee, they are not under investigation but you are! You have been for years… And you stink!
Ole Sam Griswold. Anonymous blogger, lover of other people’s money, Board member of SC Retiree Asso. Yes, old Sam, close to $7 billion that has been flushed down the toilet with the public cleft to pa his bill.
Sam Griswold, a man Al Capone could admire!
Ole Curtis. Anonymous blogger from way back.. lover of other people’s money.. Voting member on the Investment Commission, up to $7 billion that has been flushed down the toilet with the public “cleft to pa his bill ” Loftis has pissed off too many people and Karma is sweet.. He sits on the Investment Commission… Who wants to sit next to him? Infected and all… Gross man . The legislature must remove that ugly man and replace him with person who is qualified. Sick and very disgusted… Alan Wilson … You are better.. answer the simple question.. Who is paying for Loftis’s attorneys? and who approved that payment? Simple..
Lies and decussate. how your filthy little should must shrivel each time you post.
Sam Griswold, you ought to be ashamed.
Why does Sam Griswold, board member of SC Retirees Asso, hate AG Wilson. Does Howard Duvall, Sam’s fellow board member hate AG Wilson too?
Does Councilman Howard Duval want City of Columbia to pay millions in higher retirement contributions? Does he endorsee Sam Griswold actions that helped the Investment Commission lose $7 billion dollars?
Curtee, you do not know what you are talking about… Poor soul… Stupid is and stupid does. You sit on the Investment Commission.. you are part of the problem… face it.. You do not get along with people.. Violence, lies, screams . Who wants to work with you and for you? Curtis Melvin Loftis has destroyed the STO. Poor corrupted soul..
Sam Griswold, the only man in SC that was next to the investment commission when it lost $7 billion and the Obama Care Co-Op when it lost $80 million.
Coincidence? I think not. Sam is greedy!
You do not say that? What a powerful man we have in him? Loftis sits on the Investment Commission and has a vote on that commission…lost $7billion on that commission and he had a vote on this… Loftis does not know what he is talking about… Period… or worst, he does not know that he was part of the problem… The legislature needs to replace him and he must appoint someone who knows what to do… Period. Legislature, remove the idiot and have him appoint someone who is qualified ,as the governor and comptroller do… Simple..
Sam, Sam,
Picking on women now? hating Herb Hayden and Alan Wilson is not bad enough?
One simple question, we ask… Who is paying for Curtis Loftis’s attorneys in the ethics violations against him? The tax payers of this State? A simple question… a simple answer. Who approved of that payment? Simple answer…
Sam Griswold hating on Herb Hayden and Alan Wilson. Wow.
Who pays for the attorneys and their efforts in the multiple ethics violations against Curtis Melvin Loftis? And who approved that transaction? Transparency .. Loftis..
I don’t know anything about that. You will have to ask them. All I know is you are a self-hating old man that covets other people’s money. U hate on Herb Hayden and Alan Wilson and Curtis Loftis.
Why all the hate?
Let me inform you.. All we ask is very simple and it deserves a very simple answer: who is paying for Loftis’s attorneys in his multiple ethics violations… and who approved of that transaction.. Simple question deserves an answer. Transparent Loftis will know that.. Curtis is sick and corrupt and Alan Wilson is covering his ass . Too bad Alan… Tax payers vote… and they do not like to pay for corrupted officials and their ethics violations.. Alan, do your job!
What’s pissing me off is that we are now being treated like coloreds. Since WHEN do we get investigated? Blacks are rebelling everywhere and it’s only a matter of time. The next thing you know, we’ll have a black governor. The state of south carolina is out of control. this shit is crazy. wake up friends. wake the fuck up. It’s happening right before our fucking eyes. Am I the only one concerned. Hell, they’re getting our girls PREGNANT for God’s sake. What the fuck?
They whole county council should be investigated…the county employees get no pay raises and treated like dogs for their greed.
They also need to snoop into Beth and John Carrigg they are both crooks as well
Sled has been investigating Swansea’s “acting town/water clerk” for theft for about 8 months or longer. This is after she admitted to taking the money to the Swansea police chief. So far she’s been on paid administrative leave, you got that PA ID leave. She’s been getting her over $70,000 a year pay while sitting at home. This is also after losing a law suit for deflamation, which was paid for through town insurance. If Sled is also after the Mayor and others, maybe to save time they should check their own records. Yep, they have enough to at least warrent an investigation but who knows where they put that evidence.