National Politics - 2016

Will Hillary Clinton Get Indicted?

HIGH STAKES IN EMAIL SCANDAL … Will she or won’t she?  The answer to that question could determine whether Hillary Clinton becomes America’s next president … or its next fallen politician. Earlier this week, chatter among the media elites centered around an ongoing Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) probe into…

HIGH STAKES IN EMAIL SCANDAL …

Will she or won’t she?  The answer to that question could determine whether Hillary Clinton becomes America’s next president … or its next fallen politician.

Earlier this week, chatter among the media elites centered around an ongoing Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) probe into Clinton’s use of a private server to handle official government business during her tenure as Secretary of State.  This business included top secret documents as well as undisclosed correspondence with U.S. president Barack Obama.

A week ago, MSNBC host Joe Scarborough said the investigation into Clinton was “far more advanced than we the public knows.”

“Most of us around this table are hearing from multiple sources … that the Hillary Clinton investigation [by] the FBI is far more progressed,” Scarborough said to his cohost, Mika Brzezinski. “Mika and I have been hearing it from the top officials in the Obama administration for actually several months now, and we can’t go to a meeting in Washington where we don’t hear this.”

Wow.

This week U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa – former chairman of the House Oversight Committee – made waves when he suggested FBI director James Comey had “no choice” but to refer Clinton for prosecution on criminal charges.

“The director is somebody who cares a great deal about national security – and with the body of evidence, he really has no choice but to refer this for indictment,” Issa told Trish Regan of Fox Business.

Most political observers believe an indictment would mark the end of Clinton’s presidential aspirations – putting the Democratic party in the awkward position of having to either nominate a socialist, U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, or scramble to find a replacement “establishment” politician.

While the present-day indictment drama swirls, pressure is also being applied on the National Archives to release draft indictments prepared by a special prosecutor in the late 1990s related to Clinton’s involvement in the infamous Whitewater debacle.

Whitewater was a failed real estate venture that has exposed Clinton and her husband – former U.S. president Bill Clinton – to criticism regarding corrupt insider dealing.

Judicial Watch – a Washington, D.C.-based group – has sued for access to files from the investigation, but the government is thus far refusing to release them saying Clinton “maintains a strong privacy interest in not having information about her from the files of the Independent Counsel disclosed.”

What do you think?

Will Clinton be indicted?  Vote in our poll and post your thoughts in our comments section below …

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186 comments

CorruptionInColumbia February 4, 2016 at 12:52 pm

No.

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erneba February 4, 2016 at 1:47 pm

Love the line about Hillary and Obama.
“They are two different heads, but part of the same snake.”

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flip February 4, 2016 at 2:16 pm

Alex Jones? Really?

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CorruptionInColumbia February 4, 2016 at 2:22 pm

Hey, Alex may not be right all the time, but neither is he wrong all the time. The old guy he’s interviewing says things that really do seem to fit and would make sense.

A broken clock…

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Tazmaniac February 4, 2016 at 5:23 pm

Even the worst strategist would have to think about the threat of a scorched earth scenario. If she doesn’t get what she wants this go-round she will burn it all down, Ds and Rs just like that guy said. Human nature 101, no conspiracy theory needed.

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CorruptionInColumbia February 4, 2016 at 5:43 pm

True! I wish there were a way to enforce her indictment against Congress’ will. It would be fun to watch the entire load of shit go down with one flush.
:-)

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OldAndTired February 4, 2016 at 12:53 pm

Jim Clyburn is working behind the scenes, through his surrogates, for Bernie Sanders. I had several of these folks tell me that they will be working the crowds at next week’s NAACP banquet.

Doesn’t Clyburn dislike the Clintons?

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erneba February 4, 2016 at 1:35 pm

Yes, there was a big pissing contest between the factions of the Clinton and Obama campaigns during the presidential primary in 2008.

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idcydm February 4, 2016 at 1:41 pm

Remember when Bill Clinton told Jessie Jackson that this guy should be serving us coffee?

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erneba February 4, 2016 at 1:50 pm

Yeah, now that you speak of it. It was a real pissing contest for a while. And they still don’t like each other. And it was SC that started Obama’s strong run in the primaries.

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jebrayshaw February 4, 2016 at 6:52 pm

Does obummer have to squat?

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erneba February 4, 2016 at 7:04 pm

Yes, and then wipe as opposed to shaking.

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TroubleBaby February 4, 2016 at 1:04 pm

Hilliary deserves to be indicated, whether she will be or not I have no earthly idea.

It will fascinating to watch…the Clinton machine is very powerful, but Obama has built himself quite an apparatus himself and it’s not clear that he’s interested in helping her.

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idcydm February 4, 2016 at 2:03 pm

If he helps her, what does that tell you? It tells me some in the political elite are above the law.

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TroubleBaby February 4, 2016 at 2:20 pm

Well, it’s been a long, long time that the elected elite have been mostly above the law…to many who didn’t realize it, it’s just not becoming apparent.

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idcydm February 4, 2016 at 2:29 pm

“long, long time”…probably because some don’t care whether she gets charged or not…really!

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TroubleBaby February 4, 2016 at 2:34 pm

lol…well you can blame apathy for the reason the elected elites aren’t prosecuted(and those apathetic, like me)- but then you’d have trouble explaining why the people charged with prosecuting them aren’t doing their job given they aren’t elected.

:)

idcydm February 4, 2016 at 2:48 pm

The Judicial Branch of the Federal Government is submitted for appointment by the Administrative Branch and the Legislative Branch confirms. You’re right they aren’t elected but it is still political and we elect the politicians.

As far as the indictment of Clinton it’s the Administration’s Department of Justice.

TroubleBaby February 4, 2016 at 2:50 pm

“You’re right they aren’t elected but it is still political and we elect the politicians.”

I know I’m right.

:)

But you’re missing the point, the people responsible for placing their own policing forces are never going to appoint people hostile to them. It doesn’t matter who is elected or who elects them.

The problem is government itself. It’s very nature.

idcydm February 4, 2016 at 3:06 pm

I’m not missing any point.

The Politicians in Government will stay the same as long as people don’t care if someone is indicted or not.

You’re the one that said she should be indicted but doesn’t care if she is or not and accepts it’s the very nature.

There’s nothing wrong with our government, just the people we elect to run it.

TroubleBaby February 4, 2016 at 3:34 pm

“I’m not missing any point.”

Yes you are, but I’m not going over it again- I’m sure we both dislike being circular.

Sic Semper Tyrannis February 4, 2016 at 3:45 pm

Compare the Fed to SC, now ask yourself is she going to get indicted?

idcydm February 4, 2016 at 4:00 pm

So what are you saying tit for tat.

BTW I don’t think she will be indicted, corruption is corruption regardless the level of government.

Sic Semper Tyrannis February 4, 2016 at 4:14 pm

Correct. Have a good rainy day.

ed February 4, 2016 at 3:09 pm

Leftrash (blacks, muslims, illegal aliens, democrat pols, federal employees, etc.) can ignore all laws of the land. Everyone else has to submit or be punished with the maximum penalty.

flip February 4, 2016 at 2:15 pm

Obama’s just going to wait out the rest of his term patiently so he can bail and laugh all the way back home. Not his circus, not his monkeys.

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ed February 4, 2016 at 3:25 pm

Hillary has dirt on Obama she can use to protect herself. But, with Comey at the FBI she will be forced to drop out of the race and either Sanders or Biden will end up the Democratic candidate (albeit damaged goods).

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Herman W. "Buz" Martin February 4, 2016 at 4:29 pm

Biden could win. Sanders could not.

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nero88888 February 4, 2016 at 2:20 pm

Trump deserves to be indicted for raping his first wife.

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Fecal Matters February 4, 2016 at 2:34 pm

Broken record much?

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flip February 4, 2016 at 2:36 pm

We sat through 7 years so far hearing about birth certificates, you can sit through a few months hearing about rape allegations.

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Fecal Matters February 4, 2016 at 2:38 pm

Ah, you mean the birth certificate mubojumbo perpetuated by the Clinton camp?

flip February 4, 2016 at 2:50 pm

I doubt the Clintons were still bringing up the birth certificate issue after 2009.

Fecal Matters February 4, 2016 at 2:52 pm

Doesn’t matter, they’re the ones that planted the seed. Disgusting individuals.

flip February 4, 2016 at 2:57 pm

The GOP watered the plant for the last seven years so at this point blaming Hillary for the birther movement isn’t going to work.

Who are most birthers going to vote for? Isn’t Trump himself a birther? How is he doing in the primary? Yeah damn it’s Hillary’s fault all right!

Fecal Matters February 4, 2016 at 3:02 pm

I’m sure President Trump and Bill will have a good laugh next time they cross paths at Bohemian Grove.

U B DUMBASS! February 4, 2016 at 3:08 pm

I never thought that there could be an Atty Gen. more corrupt than Eric Holder– but it appears that I was wrong.

If Lynch does not prosecute Hillary Clinton, her term at the Justice Dept. will go down in history as a period in America when corruption ran rampant at all levels of government–but of course, that goes without saying of the Obama administration and will continue and expand under the criminal Hillary.

The only one who is beholden to no one and has the balls to bring these sinister scofflaws and treasonous villains to justice is Trump.

Pilf February 4, 2016 at 2:59 pm

Islam is a political party hiding under the cloak of religion. Read Sun Tzu and deception in warfare. Islam seeks the destruction of all that is good and decent (freedom, democracy, the rule of reasonable law etc) in this world in order to replace it with the evil of Muslim dictatorship. Deception is the keyword to describe you.

usmc_marine February 5, 2016 at 4:19 pm

Where did this article mention trump…of bush for that matter. Not even close to a comparison

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nero88888 February 4, 2016 at 2:21 pm

She deserves to be indicted according to a partisan right wing nut job.

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nero88888 February 4, 2016 at 2:21 pm

Your fat fukkin head WILL explode when no indictment comes. trump deserves to be in prison for raping his first wife.

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TroubleBaby February 4, 2016 at 2:22 pm

lol, you’re kinda angry…I don’t care whether she gets charged or not…really!

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itoldyou February 4, 2016 at 2:36 pm

If Trump deserves to be in prison put him there All criminals should be put in jail Or are you saying H gets a pass because Nixon violated the law

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Gordon February 5, 2016 at 9:34 am

That’s PRESIDENT TRUMP – Get used to it.

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nero88888 February 5, 2016 at 10:11 am

Trump is an unelectable bigoted liar and accused rapist. He’s going to prison for raping his first wife you low info parasite

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Keep calm and spell check February 4, 2016 at 2:42 pm

Brother, she had already been “indicated”. Whether she will be indicted is the question.

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TroubleBaby February 4, 2016 at 2:44 pm

lol…thanks for the catch!

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ed February 4, 2016 at 3:13 pm

The people who blindly follow Hillary, are like the people who followed David Koresh and Jim Jones.

They would rather burn to death or drink cyanide, than admit they are wrong.

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CorruptioninColumbia February 4, 2016 at 1:14 pm

I am a twice convicted pedophile and I am listed on the Sex Offender Registry. The truth is that the only thing that is corrupt in columbia is me. I am nothing more than a self righteous prick/blowhard/troll who loves young boys.

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CorruptionInColumbia February 4, 2016 at 1:18 pm

Obviously, I have arrived. I merit my own troll to follow me, even precede me, to various threads. I feel special.

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CorruptioninColumbia February 4, 2016 at 1:32 pm

Obviously, I HAVE arrived. I merit some dumb ass troll to follow me, even precede me to various threads. What a pathetic douchbag. Get a life troll! You definitely are not special.

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Fecal Matters February 4, 2016 at 4:12 pm

Well, ain’t that the troll pot calling the troll kettle black.

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erneba February 4, 2016 at 1:53 pm

Yeah, you are big time now. Your own personal troll. Admires you so much, he copies your name. Now that is envy, just kidding.

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idcydm February 4, 2016 at 2:00 pm

You must have given him some serious butt hurt. I know one thing, your troll lacks originality.

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CorruptionInColumbia February 4, 2016 at 2:14 pm

Apparently so, idcydm!!!!

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Rocky Verdad February 4, 2016 at 3:36 pm

Welcome to the Elite Membership club.

Rocky Verdad February 4, 2016 at 3:36 pm

What did you do?

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CorruptionInColumbia February 4, 2016 at 4:35 pm

I dunno, but I must have pissed in his or her cornflakes. Obviously, they deserved it do I hope they, “drink up!”

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Tazmaniac February 4, 2016 at 6:08 pm

I am green with envy. All I have going for me is about a week or so of Flip stalking me. I mostly get HuffPo, Mother Jones, and Media Matters copy and paste regurgitating Leftist Bots. That you went from talking meat curtains to little boy’s bare asses was kind of a clue.

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CorruptionInColumbia February 4, 2016 at 7:06 pm

I still preach the wonders of meat curtains, Taz. Yep, the troll seems to be into young boys, even bragging about how popular he was when he was the young boy.

I’m toying with letting meat curtains define my candidacy, should I run for political office.

“MEAT CURTAINS FOR ALL, and Arby’s for those who don’t like meat curtains”, sayeth I!

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CorruptioninColumbia February 4, 2016 at 1:15 pm

p.s. I am nothing more than a fucking cockroach!

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Rocky Verdad February 4, 2016 at 1:23 pm

A) No
B) If this don’t pull Tango Flip back in – nothing will!

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flip February 4, 2016 at 2:17 pm

They’re too busy in the basement keeping each other company today it seems.

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Anonymouse February 4, 2016 at 2:18 pm

I think that one comment from Stickler about his disqus ID freaked him out yesterday.

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flip February 4, 2016 at 2:30 pm

Before he was using the disqus ID of nerwzub, or “buz” and “wren” spelled backwards. That’s kind of creepy to me because it shows just how stalkerish he is towards Buzz.

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Rocky Verdad February 4, 2016 at 3:34 pm

Or the hearing on Feb 16?

Flip February 4, 2016 at 11:29 pm

It bothered ‘us’. I have been getting death threats on the email account attached to the Disqus ID tomstickler posted.

Working on it.

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Nölff February 4, 2016 at 1:27 pm

If she’s indicted, it won’t be until after the election. It’ll be a long and drawn out.

I doubt she’ll win the Democratic nomination. If that’s the case, she probably won’t be indicted. The whole point of Gowdy try to indict her is to keep her from becoming POTUS. It would defeat the purpose.

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itoldyou February 4, 2016 at 2:35 pm

We don’t know the extent of her criminal acts. There are thousands (she said 30 do you believe her) records we have yet to see. Imagine what is in there.

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Rose Larkin February 4, 2016 at 2:51 pm

exactly, see smarter in politics than I thought. You know they are out to get her because she is the only presidential candidate with the goods.

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Fecal Matters February 4, 2016 at 3:12 pm

The “goods”, what exactly are the “goods” in your infinite wisdom?

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ed February 4, 2016 at 3:21 pm

Hillary should be indicted WE THE PEOPLE know it.

She is pathetic. The DEM voters are already seeing her as a weak candidate by cheating herself a win in IOWA. She is going to loose NH and its going to be down hill for her.

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jebrayshaw February 4, 2016 at 3:25 pm

Stolen goods!

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idcydm February 4, 2016 at 1:36 pm

It speaks volumes of this Administration that we even have to ask the question.

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erneba February 4, 2016 at 1:36 pm

Many will say it is not comparable, but the Obama Administration really put themselves in a box with the way they handled the Petraeus affair. He was charged with a crime and paid the price. He failed to protect information that passed through his hands.
It is clear that this person, Clinton, failed to protect the classified information that passed through her hands.
Her excuses, at this point, are comical and she is making an ass of herself.

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itoldyou February 4, 2016 at 1:43 pm

Petraeus committed a few crimes but H has committed many Most we will hear about in the future

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Rose Larkin February 4, 2016 at 2:49 pm

In your dreams and Trumps..

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shifty henry February 4, 2016 at 3:28 pm

Huma, explain to us why your husband the “Big Weiner” had to find other twits to satisfy his lonely, lustful nights……

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erneba February 4, 2016 at 3:30 pm

Boy..you are being rough on Huma…good job.

shifty henry February 4, 2016 at 3:56 pm

Just curious as to what her true game plan is…. plus I don’t like that snarky new poster

Rocky Verdad February 4, 2016 at 3:32 pm

Because she’s smart? And he’s an asshole?

Rose Larkin February 4, 2016 at 3:30 pm

We all liked Petraeus but he was in love, so he gave info away and not to his wife. Yep Obama should have been tougher, but he has been pretty busy saving our country, fighting Bush wars, fighting the GOP to keep people insured so they do not die, saving our houses, loans, stocks and life savings and trying to get the GOP to agree to something.. Oh yeah and some ridiculous amount of 60 some months with 250,000 a week new jobs. I think you all our most concerned because Hillary and Obama are dems.

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idcydm February 4, 2016 at 3:37 pm

“Oh yeah and some ridiculous amount of 60 some months with 250,000 a week new jobs.”…You weren’t valedictorian were you.

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Rose Larkin February 4, 2016 at 2:49 pm

Your dog looks nice. I can’t tell if you are a victim of fox tv, the right wing smear group on Hillary, or if you know what your saying heare is a pack of lies. There is no smoke, no lies, she has many accomplishments, well known with all the international leaders as secretary of the state, works both sides of the aisle, has fought her life for human and civil rights, and is truly the republicans biggest target, they fantasize about her going down.. She is still standing because she is innocent folks.

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Fecal Matters February 4, 2016 at 3:09 pm

Right wing smear campaign? I know a whole slew of registered democrats that wouldn’t trust her as far as they could kick her. Quick, go to google and copy/paste a list of her “accomplishments”.

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erneba February 4, 2016 at 3:12 pm

And you think I am brain-washed, you are pitiful.

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idcydm February 4, 2016 at 3:14 pm

There sure are a lot of new comers on this thread…wonder how the are working for?

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erneba February 4, 2016 at 3:16 pm

They seemed committed, inspired, and also off-target. Yeah, I noticed it seems to be a new user. I wonder if there is some low-level Hillary campaigning going on.

idcydm February 4, 2016 at 3:22 pm

Naw, they wouldn’t be campaigning on Fits but then again maybe they are dumb enough.

Tazmaniac February 4, 2016 at 4:51 pm

Sock monkey mercenary hire by her campaign to do advance damage control. Working from his Mom’s basement to spread the vast right wing conspiracy meme like shit on a shoe.

ed February 4, 2016 at 3:18 pm

She already has gotten away with murder: she and Obama supplied jihadists with weapons used by Muslims to murder Christians in Syria, Libya, and Iraq, and she also facilitated and condoned the murder of Americans by Muslims in Benghazi.

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JB February 4, 2016 at 3:39 pm

The Iraqi army is responsible for fleeing and leaving their arms and equipment behind for ISIS to take. So thank whoever started that boondoggle.

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jebrayshaw February 4, 2016 at 6:49 pm

Obama getting boondoggled by Maliki and the Iranians. Should have armed the KURDS they fight and help Christian refugees.

JB February 4, 2016 at 7:11 pm

They don’t want us there – they don’t want us there – Or do suggest we just occupy whatever nation we want to?

jebrayshaw February 4, 2016 at 3:24 pm

She bragged about getting a rapist off on a technicality, attacked women VICTIMS of her rapist husband and wirelessly compromise national security for personal gain. She has not been innocent since sweet sixteen. She made $100,000 from a$1,000 investment. Odds on that being honest 1000 to 1, period. No more BS, please.

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ed February 4, 2016 at 3:29 pm

There was much talk of HiLIARy’s brain and accompanied damage that manifested itself when she didn’t return to her debate throne in December, leading to speculation on her extended bathroom break. This may be the excuse allowing HiLIARy to withdraw and save face.

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shifty henry February 4, 2016 at 3:25 pm

I know you are Huma Abedin, and your lying for her will not save your ass when the axe falls.

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erneba February 4, 2016 at 3:28 pm

Yeah, I have heard all the Hillary girls are getting together tonite over at Hillary’s for a clam bump…er..er..clam bake.

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ed February 4, 2016 at 3:32 pm

If the FBI recommends and the AG declines, it is very bad news for Democrats running for office. The question then falls to the Republican candidates and/or nominee whether they would appoint an AG that would indict.

Can you imagine the moment in a debate between HIllary & whomever when the question is asked whether, if elected, they would indict HIllary? Almost worth the price of admission.

Rocky Verdad February 4, 2016 at 3:33 pm

I’d bump Huma.

Fecal Matters February 4, 2016 at 4:29 pm

How much have you had to drink today?

Rocky Verdad February 4, 2016 at 4:54 pm

Just cofffee.

shifty henry February 4, 2016 at 4:02 pm

Huma Abedin and two lesbians were at a political meeting having a drink at the bar when Hillary Clinton waved at them from across the room.

“Nice,” commented one. “I’d like to get between
her legs sometime soon.”

“No, you wouldn’t,” said Huma disparagingly.
“She’s hung like a doughnut.”

erneba February 4, 2016 at 5:25 pm

That’s a good one.

HOWYAFEEL February 4, 2016 at 3:29 pm

Hey Rose get ya bags packed we’re goin on a cruise down that big ol lazy river DANILE BABY

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itoldyou February 4, 2016 at 1:42 pm

One part not talked about much is the fact that Hs lust for money and feeling she is above any law has ensnared many gov employees into her web of deceit. It is amazing how many are lying to protect her. Obama himself has lied over and over about this issue.

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erneba February 4, 2016 at 2:07 pm

That’s a good point. I imagine there are many high-level bureaucrats in Washington that are “holding their breath.”

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Rose Larkin February 4, 2016 at 2:44 pm

Wow. you should be scared..real scared if the republicans take over the white house. Trump wants min wages of 7.25, some want no min wage. Lets see, no jobs, no insurance, no medicare and no social security, no welfare. Add to this blanket bombing of any countries we can’t seem to negotiate with, or do not like. We should all get scared our children’s children will be hated by most of the world. Yeah and don’t forget, racism, right wing crazy religion, white power, and sexism things the republicans want to take us back to.

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ed February 4, 2016 at 3:17 pm

Will the FBI be able to persuade Putin and the Ayatollah to give back THEIR copies of our secrets they ‘accessed’ from Clintoon?

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jebrayshaw February 4, 2016 at 3:18 pm

People without skills and a poor education have a better chance starting at 7.25 than at 15.00. Minimum wage is not supposed to be a lifetime wage. Need to cut off illegals taking American jobs. Too many AA are clueless.

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Terry February 4, 2016 at 3:24 pm

Who the hell other than a dumb ass Republican came up with Minimum wage is not supposed to be a lifetime wage? We have lots of minimum wage jobs that need to be filled. In the past we respected all people who worked from the trash collector tot he CEO. But the GOP has changed that with their rich people are more important bull shit.
A person working their entire life as a waitress or waiter deserves respect. They work hard. There is nothing wrong with that. We understood that in the past. But now we just degrade those people as unmotivated and unsuccessful. Republicans are full of crap.

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Fecal Matters February 4, 2016 at 3:29 pm

So someone who’s charged with asking if “you want fries with that” should be making as much as a college graduate with a degree in journalism or nursing?

Whatever February 4, 2016 at 3:49 pm

That is the lamest, whiniest answer to the ‘raise minimum wage’ argument…because their wages wouldn’t rise as well? Get real and don’t cry about somebody else doing good for themselves. If the minimum wage rises, we all benefit. It’s already been proven.

Fecal Matters February 4, 2016 at 3:53 pm

So does that mean you would not advocate for the wages for college graduates to rise exponentially with increases in the minimum wage? Where’s the incentive to better oneself when you can drop out of school and make as much as someone who takes on the debt and puts in the hard work that college requires?

Terry February 4, 2016 at 4:56 pm

Stupid argument.

Fecal Matters February 4, 2016 at 4:09 pm

You’re delusional if you think an uneducated person slinging a mop for $7.50 an hour suddenly gets a government entitlement that doubles his or her hourly income to $15, for nothing, is someone “doing good for themselves”.

jebrayshaw February 4, 2016 at 6:58 pm

Waitress is not minimum wage. The great majority do not stay in a minimum wage job. Artificially raising minimum wage LIMITED access to an entry level job. Not counting govt. Jobs republicans have hired more people and created more employment than DemocRATS.

JB February 4, 2016 at 3:45 pm

What good paying jobs are illegals taking?

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Fecal Matters February 4, 2016 at 3:50 pm

Illegal immigrant, Cesar Vargas was sworn in as an attorney in New York today. Does he count?

JB February 4, 2016 at 3:56 pm

Not really, he got a law license not a job. Suppose he can work for himself. Is that preventing legal Americans from getting a law license?

Fecal Matters February 4, 2016 at 4:04 pm

So he could potentially take a client away from an American citizen practicing law in the US. You can play semantic games, but that’s a job.

JB February 4, 2016 at 4:09 pm

It’s not a job if you’re not receiving an income. I’m sure the law profession is worried.

Fecal Matters February 4, 2016 at 4:15 pm

A paying client would denote income. You asked for an example and now you want to play semantic paddy cake.

jebrayshaw February 4, 2016 at 6:42 pm

Roofers, drywalling, etc. Every job taken away from a working CITIZEN is a good paying job if you get underCUT by any non-fiction. Dump truck drivers not getting required insurance. Inflation is a high cost when providing free services to ILLEGALS.

itoldyou February 4, 2016 at 7:03 pm

First of all the rest of the world hates us right now We buy their loyalty. If the Democrats had not opened the borders we wouldn’t need minimum wages I worked out of the Union and made good money until the immigrants diluted the labor force. SS is a good program but the politicians have stolen 4 trillion dollars from it to pay people like you * i suspect you are a teacher) The people we will have to kill are religious fanitics and if there are a billion of them then we will have to kill a billion. I am a racist and don’t see anything wrong with it. White power built this country Look at africa or Mexico

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JB February 4, 2016 at 7:10 pm

When the hell was the southern border ever closed? It is nice you admit to being a racist. What’s with the teacher hate? I thought the GOP blamed unions for their own demise and running companies out of business or the country due to unfair demands.

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itoldyou February 4, 2016 at 8:47 pm

I don;t hate teachers I just don;t want to pay them. The Unions were for immigration that was problem. The border should have been closed. If you want to understand read the rest. About 30 years ago Alan Greenspan said t he thing I am most afraid of is wage inflation and if I see it I will raise interest rates to put people out of work. Naturally gov worker and politicians (who are gov employees pimps) liked this idea because they wanted to continue to get huge pay raises while the rest of the country worked as slaves to enrich them. They knew if the private unions got there way their would be inflation and it could ruin the country. Nixon tried wage and price controls but as soon as wages were settle he took off the price controls. He knew the unions would never stand for this again so they opened the borders to dilute the labor force and that is why the average person will never buy a house and will live in poverty. This is a long subject and hard to cover completely in this post

shifty henry February 4, 2016 at 3:20 pm

the shit that runs downhill …… sort of like “if you can’t fight city hall then at least you can shit on the courthouse steps and leave a big stink” …..

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jack February 4, 2016 at 2:09 pm

Just more GOP and Fake News bull shit. Typical modus operandi. It will backfire on them just like it did on Gowdy. If you can’t get indicted for what Bush and Dick did there is no law in Washington.

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TroubleBaby February 4, 2016 at 2:13 pm

“If you can’t get indicted for what Bush and Dick did there is no law in Washington.”

It’s just that the law doesn’t mostly apply to the elected elite. Just because other pols should have been prosecuted, and weren’t, doesn’t make Hillary innocent of committing the same crime Petraeus did, but on a much larger scale.

It really isn’t “fake news”…she really did violate national security protocols. She’s not even denying it.

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flip February 4, 2016 at 2:58 pm

Every politician is a member of the C.Y.A.

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Tazmaniac February 4, 2016 at 4:57 pm

Gm was too big to fail and Hillary is too big to jail. I beginning to think we need to start downsizing.

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itoldyou February 4, 2016 at 6:57 pm

She committed crimes. One the WSJ pointed out months ago is anticipatory Obstruction of Justice… If you destroy evidence even though there is not even an investigation that is a crime Hillary voted for this law

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idcydm February 4, 2016 at 2:15 pm

Just more DNC talking points.

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erneba February 4, 2016 at 2:45 pm

Gowdy’s hearings put Hillary on record as telling a lie about the cause of the attack, and ignoring the security and the call for assistance from the Embassy personnel in Bengazhi.
Money well-spent.

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itoldyou February 4, 2016 at 6:55 pm

Committee hearing never get anywhere because the Admin is protecting them. During the WW hearings witness after came in and lied but nothing happened because they knew they could get away with it.

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JB February 4, 2016 at 3:42 pm

Obama declined to investigate and prosecute the Bush administration.

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itoldyou February 4, 2016 at 6:52 pm

One new president will never investigate the outgoing one. If you go back to Nixon , Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Obama, They should have been investigated and maybe charged I know they committed crimes. But the New President just wants to advance his ideas and doesn’ t want to disrupt the country. The end of the story is this We have lost the country If H gets elected it will be over that much sooner. But either way the US passed the point of no return If you have money get out if not your children will live in a sewer somewhat like Beirut

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itoldyou February 4, 2016 at 2:22 pm

Anyone without being told whuld know that The SofS deals in secret gov information. H brought her crime family into the gov so she could amass huge amounts of money. She and Bill have gotten away with so many lies and criminal acts they felt above any law. Any time an X president takes money from Schools, foreign Governments or Companies these people are telling them in advance we will enrich you if you play ball

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Bill February 4, 2016 at 2:26 pm

Wait what happened to BENGAZIIII, BENGAZIII. Change in talking points by Fox?

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flip February 4, 2016 at 2:28 pm

They finally dropped Benghazi in hopes that an indictment will be the silver bullet that brings her down. Won’t happen though. At least the email thing is a little more fair of an attack against her.

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Weekend at Bernie's!!!! February 4, 2016 at 2:35 pm

FOX is too busy trying to derail Trump to focus on the real enemy. If the stars line up just right this will result in a socialist winning the GE. Bernie should be hiring a food taster about now.

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Flip Wilson or Geraldine? February 4, 2016 at 2:46 pm

When there is a website called “oldwasheduprebelisnotasocialist” then the old washed up rebel is most certainly a socialist. He and Ayers probably attended the same bomb making seminars.

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Old and Jaded, not persuaded February 4, 2016 at 2:29 pm

Anybody who thinks that Hillary will ever be held accountable is smoking the good stuff. Sooooo, cue music, “Pleasssseeee don’t Bogart that joint,,, my friend,,,”

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stumpknocker February 4, 2016 at 2:30 pm

just more shit slinging, republicans can’t beat her on the issues so they resort to benghazi 2.0 stratigy, gonna come out with the same results only the haters will be a little more rabid

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flip February 4, 2016 at 2:31 pm

This is the other side of the coin for why I support Sanders. He’s a better candidate with less toxicity. There are a lot of Democrats who can’t trust her. Still amazes me that those people still vote for her in the primary though.

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stumpknocker February 4, 2016 at 2:36 pm

i’m going to vote for trump in the primary, but will be voting for Hillary in the general, reason being, i think she can push the progressive agenda further than Bernie, hey my heart is with him but i just don’t believe he has it in him to play dirty enough with the republican congress

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flip February 4, 2016 at 2:39 pm

What do you think Hillary is going to accomplish though? Doesn’t sound like she is going to build much on Obamacare. I don’t care for Hillary much, which is really saying something because I thought Bill Clinton wasn’t that bad of a President.

I ask also because Bill never had to deal with today’s Republicans. They were never this fucked up in the 90s. I don’t see how anyone can take them to task, they are hopped up on the crazy for real.

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stumpknocker February 4, 2016 at 2:44 pm

Obamacare is not an issue anyone can run on, it is never gonna work until we remove the insurance companies, national healthcare has been in her blood since she was first lady do you really think she is going to let it go if she is elected?

flip February 4, 2016 at 2:48 pm

If she doesn’t have the votes in Congress she doesn’t have the votes. She may be able to trade favors and compromise better than Bernie but against the modern day Republicans that isn’t going to amount to much in the end.

Right now I’m more worried about who will win the Republican nomination though. Crazy comes in lots of flavors and I’d like to know which one we are going to have to deal with in the GE.

stumpknocker February 4, 2016 at 2:51 pm

if it is Bernie vs trump, Bloomberg is going to step in, his net worth is ten times that of trump

flip February 4, 2016 at 2:56 pm

I hope Trump wins the primary. He is invulnerable to most Republican attacks because he’s playing with the GOP deck of cards. They can’t attack him because he’s telling their base what they want to hear, attacking him only undermines their performance in the primary.

Once the primary season is over he is going to face someone with a different deck of cards. He is going to have to balance keeping his fringe base happy without losing moderates, and he’s going to have to do it while getting hit from a candidate that doesn’t have to conform to even half of what he’s proposing.

I still say he’s only in the race to help Hillary.

stumpknocker February 4, 2016 at 3:00 pm

old ted there ain’t hurting Hillary’s chances either

JB February 4, 2016 at 2:42 pm

I’m not voting for him because if by some miracle he won – it would just be more of the last 6 years. Nothing getting done in congress. He is really rigid in his ideology and there isn’t a chance in hell that single payer will pass or free college. Then on the other hand – if Hillary is elected the GOP will probably piss away more money and time with investigating political witch hunt committees.

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flip February 4, 2016 at 2:43 pm

I think no matter which Democrat wins we are headed for deadlock. I’m afraid even if a Republican wins we are headed for the same thing because at this point the Democrats may very well try to return the Republicans’ favor.

Jack February 4, 2016 at 2:33 pm

yea, I see Obama derangement syndrome has already mutated into Clinton derangement syndrome. Haters gotta hate. Fox gotta lie. A leopard cannot change his spots.

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flip February 4, 2016 at 2:34 pm

Clinton derangement syndrome is just making a comeback from the 90s. lol!

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jebrayshaw February 4, 2016 at 3:29 pm

They issue of who can give away the most free stuff?

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Rose Larkin February 4, 2016 at 2:36 pm

No and she shouldn’t be. The GOP has been leading this witch hunt. Clearly they are afraid of this very qualified presidential CANDIDATE. I Have heard and you all can verify by doing some research. I understand the computers that store top secret information CANNOT COMMUNICATE with lets say Hillary Clintons computer. What that means is she could not receive top secret information on her computer. Everything else is like Bengasi. Didn’t happen.. Lets see what we found out with the senate committee Bengasi after 11 hours is that she did nothing wrong, just like she was cleared by the CIA, FB! EIGHT times before. She is a target. The republicans want her out. They use everything, right down to her voice, it is political and sexist.

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TroubleBaby February 4, 2016 at 2:38 pm

“I understand the computers that store top secret information CANNOT COMMUNICATE with lets say Hillary Clintons computer.”

One of the details that just came out is that she had her aides print the top secret info(a violation) from the embassy computers, scan them(another violation), then email them to her private server(yet another)…..

lol

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flip February 4, 2016 at 2:41 pm

I agree that such a thing is wrong, but have a hard time believing Hillary is the first and only person to do this, which is how Republicans are playing it. Politicians do shady shit all the time, using web based email, deleting email records, all that stuff to avoid accountability. Hillary did it in a stupider fashion than most but she’s just one pig out of the whole pen that got caught.

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TroubleBaby February 4, 2016 at 2:43 pm

I agree.

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JB February 4, 2016 at 3:26 pm

Sarah Palin and yahoo email instead of Alaska state email. Keep thinking another governor got caught doing it too.

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Shazam Gomer February 4, 2016 at 2:39 pm

So, you could solve the riddle in a few minutes of research and Obama’s FBI couldn’t figure it out. Why am I not surprised? You should be running the FBI or the CIA. Just choose and call the motherfucker up and tell him what you want

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GOP FORWARD TO THE PAST February 4, 2016 at 2:42 pm

Rose, how dare you accuse the GOP of sexism. That is so like a woman.

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Christian Huffman Baldwin February 4, 2016 at 2:41 pm

He HAS TO, otherwise, his so called legacy is over. He’ll only be known for letting her off the hook, IMO

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Tazmaniac February 4, 2016 at 5:26 pm

Google Gerald Ford’s most famous action while President. O will be Ford with no payback, doesn’t make sense.

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Tralfaz February 4, 2016 at 3:08 pm

The threshold for indictment is pretty low, and there seems to be a lot of evidence to meet the threshold here. The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy strikes again!

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ed February 4, 2016 at 3:11 pm

I can’t even imagine what fool would even think about voting for Hillary. …but then again blacks and gays and other misfits of society are behind her whole heartily. …yeah the usa is headed down the sewer for sure.

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itoldyou February 4, 2016 at 4:06 pm

What does the Threshold have to do with anything. When h set up a secret server she knew she was breaking the law. Have you ever considered she is nuts

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Bob February 4, 2016 at 3:57 pm

Republicans love to try to prosecute anyone they are afraid of. The last time we had an email scandal was in the Bush years. Republicans were pressuring US Attorneys all over the country to prosecute Democrats running against them. When they refused to do so on the grounds prosecution was not warranted, Bush fired them and replaced them. This is obviously illegal. So when Democrats tried to prove what was going on they asked for White House emails. Lo and behold, there were none. The White House had been using the private RNC servers and somehow all the relevant emails had been accidently erased by the RNC.
Moral of this story. If a Republicans are trying to prosecute their competition, they are worried. Its just their way.

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itoldyou February 4, 2016 at 4:05 pm

Why compare It is obvious you are a teacher or some other hater that cannot look at something and make an objective decision i am worried that someone like H could ever be president.

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Tom February 4, 2016 at 5:54 pm

“A teacher or some other hater”. Do teachers hate you? I suspect they do. Why would you assume Bob is a teacher? Because he sounds smart? I guess you are not fond of smart people.

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itoldyou February 4, 2016 at 6:45 pm

Many teachers are parasites they use their numbers to get money from gov.

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Herman W. "Buz" Martin February 4, 2016 at 4:35 pm

Whatever it takes to put Hillary and Bill out of our misery.

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CorruptioninColumbia February 4, 2016 at 8:29 pm

Hilderbeast won’t be indicted. This is much ado about nothing in an election year. Political bullshit, pure and simple.

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itoldyou February 6, 2016 at 4:14 pm

Do you lie to your own diary. Tell me one reason H didn’t use the gov E mails system

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ronbo February 4, 2016 at 9:25 pm

Hillary (the Clintons) should have been indicted many times over no one is above the law its time to put all three in jail, including Obama and we all know it. They all deserve to be hung for treason .

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Rick B February 4, 2016 at 10:59 pm

The gathering of assets by the Clinton Foundation while she was Secretary of State is the biggest buying of influence by foreign countries than ever thought possible. This makes their White Water Scam, lies, and infidelities a minority of all their criminal and unethical accomplishments.
We can only hope they’ll go away.

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itoldyou February 6, 2016 at 4:13 pm

You are right I believe H and B are both sociopaths who will break any law to enrich themselves. I believe some of these dealings are close to treason. At the minimum aiding our enemies.. Sort of like when Jane Fonda went to Vietnam

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Gordon February 5, 2016 at 9:36 am

She has no ethics or integrity and violated laws of national security, she needs to be indicted. the question shouldn’t be IF , it should be WHEN. She broke the law, bottom line- everyone knows it, except for her sheeple followers who see through rose colored glasses and can’t accept simple facts of life.

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RGS February 5, 2016 at 3:24 pm

When you’re a politician you LIE, that’s what you do. When you wanna save 15% on car ins………………………………….

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Terry Stromky February 5, 2016 at 8:17 pm

Hilary needs to be in jail. She will finish the destruction of our country started by Obama. I hope and pray JUSTICE will prevail for the sake of our country.

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