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Burningspeare November 5, 2015 at 4:43 pm

Cruz is a true nut case. No wonder he has strong support in The South.

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Bible Thumper November 5, 2015 at 4:46 pm

No more nuttier than Bernie Sanders. The favorite northern nut.

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 4:55 pm

of the two, who do you feel has more compassion?

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TroubleBaby November 5, 2015 at 5:03 pm

That’s a tough question to answer because no one knows the inside of their hearts so to speak.

What you have is a fundamental disagreement in society. Some think wealth redistribution is compassion, some think that letting people keep what they earn is compassion.

Even though those things are different, there can be a desire for compassion behind both.

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 5:09 pm

thoughtful answer, making some good points, quite refreshing

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which way is the wind blowing November 5, 2015 at 5:06 pm

Speaking of compassion – I’ve noticed all of them seem to be sharing personal stories of addiction now. Showing their softer side and acting like we need to help this people. Wonderful – but how does that square with all the Republicans who are constantly wanting to drug test individuals receiving govt benefits?

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Bible Thumper November 5, 2015 at 5:09 pm

The drug test is not to deny benefits, but reform behavior.

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which is the wind blowing November 5, 2015 at 5:18 pm

Depends on the state. Some states cut them off with the first positive screening and other have rules about drug convictions making one ineligible. It is another waste of money law since it has panned out to cost the states more money than it saves in kicking folks off.

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Terry November 5, 2015 at 5:25 pm

Then why don’t we drug test everyone who works for Government including Senators and Representatives. They are taking a heck of a lot more of our money for nothing than people on welfare.

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Rocky Verdad November 5, 2015 at 5:35 pm

Now that’s just silly. Think of the last Congressman that got busted for coke. You want to lose the majority?

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 5, 2015 at 8:13 pm

Every one in government period !!!!

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Bible Thumper November 5, 2015 at 5:07 pm

Sometimes compassion is just enabling harmful behavior. Acting on your compassion with other peoples money is not a virtue. The people who receive that kind of compassion, think it is an entitlement and are rarely thankful or reform.

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 5:11 pm

but the point Bernie is making that the wealth has already been redistributed from the middle class to the one 1%, he just wants to move it back

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Bible Thumper November 5, 2015 at 5:18 pm

There are things that can be done but redistribution of wealth is a dis-incentive to both wealthy and lower incomes. We need policies that encourage wealth creation.

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 5:24 pm

1% has robbed the middle class and the republicans just stood by and said they will trickle their wealth back down to us. hell that theory has been implemented by the republicans since reagan and things are only getting worse, lets go back to the tax rates of the 60s when america was really strong and had a good economy.

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Terry November 5, 2015 at 5:28 pm

+10 Back then we were the most powerful Nation on earth and respected by everyone. Our middle class was strong, our manufacturing base was strong, life was good. Then Republicans decided the rich need to own a lot more of the country.

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Burningspeare November 5, 2015 at 5:44 pm

Powerful but never respected by everyone.

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 5:46 pm

what country has ever been respected by everyone?

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Burningspeare November 5, 2015 at 5:47 pm

None.

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 5:49 pm

so you just posted a irrelevant comment?

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 5, 2015 at 7:15 pm

Can’t wait to smoke a bong hit with you !

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Rakkasan November 6, 2015 at 7:12 am

We need wealth creation for the middle an dlower classes. Got any ideas on how to get it. BTW, second and third low paying jobs ala Jeb! doesn’t count as an answer

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Burningspeare November 5, 2015 at 5:40 pm

Irrelevant.

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Burningspeare November 5, 2015 at 5:40 pm

True. Plus he is a fool, proved by his debate performance which leads me to believe that he is a shill for Hillary. Trump may also be a foil for Hillary.

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southmauldin November 5, 2015 at 4:45 pm

There is no fucking way that the deficit will not explode under a 10% rate with no taxes for those making under $36000. Steve Forbes wanted a 17% tax rate when he ran and he was laughed out of the park by economists saying that it would balloon the deficit. I guess he is resorting to blatant lying now that he has absolutely no chance at the nomination.

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 4:50 pm

SHUT THE FUCK UP..You G__ D___ IMBECILE your fucking unholy god FUCKED up the economy…You FAILED GET THE FUCK out of the way.

You took a $9 Trillion war-necessary debt – that would have evaporated if we’d stayed the Bush economy – and DOUBLED it..you STUPID LYING MOTHERFUCKER…

I’d SLAP the FUCKING SHIT out of you get around me and Suck Obama’s Dick…you IGNORANT FUCK…It’s time to Kick your FUCKING Teeth in…

It’s Bad enough you fucked up the country…now you’re so FUCKING stupid…you are Running from the BIG Fucking MESS you have made…

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vicupstate November 5, 2015 at 4:57 pm

Go fuck yourself, you dumb shit.

Bush’s economy TANKED just as Obama was taking office, which cut revenues and raised expenses dramatically. Bush inherited a SURPLUS you DICKHEAD! His lousy tax cut and wars eliminated that and produced the largest deficits until that time. The DEFICIT has been FALLING for several years and is now back DOWN to where Bush left it after the worst recession since the Great Depression.

BUSH LOST JOBS, OBAMA has ADDED jobs. You DUMB FUCK !!

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Beartrkkr November 5, 2015 at 11:28 pm

We’ll ignore the explosion of the economy created with the internet revolution (or dot.com boom if you will). A trained… no an untrained monkey could have presided over that economic locomotive. However, the inevitable internet bubble also crashed the economy under Bush. Really didn’t matter who was in office, that train wreck was coming. Throw in some old-fashioned terrorism in 2001 and the US economy came to a screeching halt.

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 5:00 pm

the war was never necessary and was terribly prosecuted

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 5:30 pm

Is that why Hillary and Kerry voted for it?

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 5:34 pm

they were wrong, how the hell do you think Obama won, the democrats did not forgive her for caving to public opinion and that vote is still a black mark she carries to this day.

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 5:38 pm

Good…that means Hillary LOSES again…because none of her opponents voted for the war…GOOD…thanks for admitting that skank is Dead in the water…That’s comforting considering the damage you have done to the country…

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 5:44 pm

oh she is gonna win

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 5, 2015 at 7:59 pm

When her 18 inch is finished you will beg to be tortured by Bush Special Agents.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 5, 2015 at 7:55 pm

No they voted, but for a lie. Everyone knows that but you , now you do.

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 8:40 pm

I get it…It was Bush’s fault, they voted for it, after they voted against it…

LMAO…Thanks for that…I’m one creative MoFo, but I cannot make up some of the shit you come with….(: Funny stuff for sure…(And what’s hilarious, I think you actually believe the stupid shit you post)….

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 5, 2015 at 8:50 pm

Glad you got it.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 5, 2015 at 9:12 pm

You voted, Haley, Bush, etc. Get ready !

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YallCalmDown November 5, 2015 at 5:14 pm

Dude, you want a sedative?

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 5:30 pm

I’m GLAD you cower…Trump Will BASH your Fucking skull…while Americans Stand and Cheer…You Anti-American Bastard,….GET used to it…

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Rocky Verdad November 5, 2015 at 5:37 pm

Blah, blah, I’m a big fat pussy. I threaten you with caps. Caps are cool. And swear words, because – “I’m always cooler on line.” Duh, duh, bubaba – crap. Trump’s a plant from the Clintons and you’re still too stupid to see it.

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Rantastic November 6, 2015 at 12:18 am

I guess his answer was “no”.

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southmauldin November 5, 2015 at 5:42 pm

Just another Internet tough guy. I bet you are like that guy that almost wrecked me today on Roper Mountain Road and who flipped me off. But when I decided to pull up beside him and give him some words, he crossed three lanes of traffic to exit on Haywood Rd. A real pussy. But you have to say G__ D__ instead of cussing properly. What are you afraid of? Do you think when you die God will pull up this blog and say that since you took his name in vain that you will go to hell. I’ve got news for you, you vile human being. You’ll be sitting three guys down from Hitler, Stalin and Dick Cheney in the hottest part of hell.

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Rocky Verdad November 5, 2015 at 5:44 pm

Dang, you go!!!!

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 6:00 pm

How ironic…your stupid ass is all over the road….

I addled you didn’t I? You’re blubbering……I think you know I mean it…and I do…that should concern you, as we go forward…if you knew me, you’d be scared as hell, considering the Bullshit your trying to sell, after what you have done to our people…

This is a MOTHERFUCKING WAR..and you are on the wrong side of the warriors…A retreat would be advisable…but you’re a Democrat, so I don’t think you’re smart enough to realize that…

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sparklecity November 6, 2015 at 8:58 am

Or maybe laying naked an a bed of fiberglass insulation for eternity……….

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sparklecity November 6, 2015 at 9:00 am

“naked IN a bed of fiberglass insulation”
sorry for the typo……………

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Rakkasan November 6, 2015 at 7:20 am

And to think it was getting a bit quiet and calm on the board. Boom, a visit from Batshit Mountain. Been up to the Mountain for more gems of wisdom, I see.

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vicupstate November 5, 2015 at 5:02 pm

Yeah, it’s more ‘Art Laffer’ laughable and discredited nonsense.

I wish it was true that Cruz had no chance at the nomination, but I can’t agree with that assessment. The bat shit crazy element of the Republican Party is now their base.

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ballooning November 5, 2015 at 5:09 pm

Shep did a spot on that today and every one of them added over a trillion to the deficit, with Trump’s being the worse, coming in at 10 trillion.

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Robert Kerns November 5, 2015 at 5:55 pm

Southmaudlin, Cruz believes in actual budget cuts which will lower the deficit, not the flim flam man Democrat and RINO version which is a cut from the amount they planned to increase the budget by, i.e. no actual cut from the amount spent the prior year. Since when did Obama and the libtards care about exploding deficits. It is their bread and butter and how they buy votes by being “Santa Claus” to the ignorant. Cruz also believes in getting rid of the baseline budgeting scam.

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southmauldin November 5, 2015 at 6:51 pm

Yeah, good luck with that Robert. You cutting SS, Medicaid or the defense budget? That’s most of the government spending. How about disability, which needs to be cut, or military disability, which needs to be cut? There isn’t enough there there, if you know what I mean. Hell, I’m for a 10% across the board cut in everything. Let’s call it the Patriot Cut. But it will never work. Both parties are to blame.

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Rakkasan November 6, 2015 at 7:18 am

They don’t need to buy votes,.Your hate, exclusion, and craziness push people to vote D

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 4:45 pm

He’s likely UNDERESTIMATING…But no wonder FITS is not swayed…you got your head up so far up Obama’s ass…you think that stupid some-beech has created jobs instead of a $18 Trillion deficit…

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vicupstate November 5, 2015 at 4:59 pm

There is not an 18 Trillion dollar DEFICIT, there is an $18 Trillion dollar DEBT!

And it was already 50% of that before Obama took office.

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 5:09 pm

Obama increased the DEBT MORE than ALL presidents BEFORE him COMBINED…and Bush secured Stability and Peace in the Mideast…Obama not only FUCKED Up that very VALUABLE accomplishment, has NOTHING but FAILURE for the TRILLIONS he spent…

QUIT peddling BULLSHIT you Sinister BASTARD…

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Jack November 5, 2015 at 5:13 pm

Big T, I know you are a brain dead certifiable nut. I know you talk to yourself all the time. I know you live in a basement and collect welfare. I know even talking to you is a waist of time, but even you must understand this very rudimentary part of our government. Only tCongress can spend money. The President cannot run up the deficit. Only Congress can do that.

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Terry November 5, 2015 at 5:10 pm

Liar. Republicans love to make up stuff. That is all they ever do. Fact checker said most of their responses in the last debate were lies.

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Bible Thumper November 5, 2015 at 5:14 pm

Rubio came out pretty good. Media is critical of him not showing up for Senate votes, but he showed up for more votes than Obama or Kerry, yet no media criticism.

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Terry November 5, 2015 at 5:23 pm

The media is not criticizing him, Jeb is. Of course he should show up. But as far as I am concerned the country is better off without him being there.

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 5:33 pm

Go look at Drudge’s Headline photo right now….that’s Rubio’s worst nightmare…and why he pales to Carson and Trump…

You cannot halfway play Conservative…and think that will work again. Voters are not that stupid, thanks to Liberal-Tarians Romney and McCain educating them on what NOT TO DO…

Rubio is lagging for a reason…

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Rocky Verdad November 5, 2015 at 5:40 pm

Rubio’s a real fags man. You love him. He’s a Cubano Metro Sexual.

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 5:14 pm

talk about a liar, friends and neighbors of carson say he was not a violent hood rat when he was young, said he was a quite nerd with a pocket protector. i looking forward to the guy he stabbed in the abdomen to step forward.

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 5:17 pm

Put Carson next to Hilary…and let America decide..you IGNORANT BRAIN DEAD Racist Liberal Motherfucker..

You’re Full of Shit, you nasty cretin..I’d love hear you go to a Carson event and make your accusations out loud…and let me know you’ll be there…PLEASE, you indecent Shit bag….You people need to be held personally accountable for the Criminal level lies you perpetuate. I’d love to be the one to hold you to it…I’d LOVE TO…

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 5:20 pm

your hysterics do nothing to push your ideas forward, it only showcases how disturbed you are

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 5:27 pm

FUCK you, Dumbass…

You can’t convince Religious Zealots of the Democrat Party with reason. Liberal-Tarians McCain and Romney proved that…You’re a blind and Ignorant disciple of a false and failed god..and you have not budged DESPITE one fuck up after another..

Like Hitler or Democrat Slaveonwers…FORCE is all that will defeat Criminal liars like you..

The Republicans who Rip your Fucking head off, and shit down your Windpipe will defeat you…that’s why Trump and Carson are leading…They – and the voters – know you are human SHIT, and flushing you is THE ONLY answer to defeat you and fixing the mess you’ve made. So you better be ready…because we ARE BRINGING it..and all you have is that Shrill and Carping little skank named Hillary…

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 5:31 pm

“Shrill” your posts are the definition of shrill, you are just so scared of the world around you, you think your posts are justified

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 5:36 pm

My Posts are a SLEDGEHAMMER, you carping little effeminate.

They are a ROAR that is resonating with the American people who know you are a FILTHY Obama Piece of Shit who lied, and damaged our country, causing widespread suffering, so your elitist politicians can fuck the people, and live like kings…

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Rocky Verdad November 5, 2015 at 5:39 pm

You’re that kid in the GE commercial who can’t lift Gran’ Pappy’s hammer – aren’t you? Yes you are. That’s OK though, ’cause you’re gonna change the world.

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 5:55 pm

Quit trying…you only make yourself look like an idiot…and I mean that…and that can be said of all of you…

Obama winning unfairly, has only made you weak…w/o your race-blanket…you are lost…

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 5:41 pm

actually if you were to “ROAR” as you do in here in public you would be arrested for indecent behavior and if you were to defend yourself to the judge as just roaring you would be fitted with a special jacked and placed in a padded room.

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 5:53 pm

STFU you ugly little shill. You’re playing cap gun, and I play Flamethrower…There is NO option this time..

You have played out, Dumbass. And I don’t think you get it…and that makes it all the more easier…So just keep regurgitating your cliches…you have no idea how fucking stupid you all look…FITS demonstrates that…He’s running T-Rav’s campaign for you (appealing to idiots) ….and we all know how well that worked…

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 5:57 pm

well you should put the flamethrower down cause you are just shooting yourself in the ass, the only value you bring to the blog is being the brunt of jokes. you can’t pick up the hammer can you? hehehehehe

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 6:42 pm

Quit trying. You have no chance.

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 6:44 pm

chance of what?

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 5, 2015 at 7:43 pm

I personally will request Hillary’s biggest strap on for you when the time comes.

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Rocky Verdad November 5, 2015 at 5:38 pm

Moving on to fuzzy navals now?

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Jack November 5, 2015 at 7:35 pm

Which Carson are you going to put up? The Carson who is thug like Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown. The coward Carson who tried to get a kid at Popeyes killed to save himself. Or the criminal Carson who stabbed a guy.

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 8:42 pm

Either one will make that stupid ass, shrill and Repulsive Skank you ass-kiss, look like the Damn Fool she is…LMAO…

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 5:19 pm

Either we ATTACK the Democrats, Hillary and Obama..and rip their Fucking heads off, and Rub their faces in their lies, until we smother those Dishonest Motherfuckers..or Americans continue to Suffer under these FILTHY Criminal liars..

You make the choice.. Republicans That SLAP the FITS NEWS level Bullshitters, WIN…otherwise WE ALL LOSE…

We cannot afford to swallow the Bullshit FITS, and Dicks that he sucks, spread. You BETTER Fight for your country NOW…or you lose it…

That said: the FITS-Type Liberals are Cowards…once you SLAP the SHIT out of them…they’ll run and hide…like Selfish and lazy Criminals do, when faced with Justice and America’s best..

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Rocky Verdad November 5, 2015 at 5:38 pm

You drinkin’ again? Glug, glug, glug. We doin’ vodka shooters this afternoon? Not drivin’ are ya? You got ’em all in this one. Crap, cocks, sucking, gay sex. Proud of ya’ boy – signed Dad!!!

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TARevolution November 5, 2015 at 5:48 pm

Get used to it, you barin Dead Bastard…

Either the GOP slaps the FUCK out of you, the media..and the IGNORANCE and Failure you peddle…or this country swirls down the toilet…

We’ve beaten NAZIs and Democrat Slaveowners, along w/ Communists and Socialists…And I think the BEST GOP candidates know who you are…and are ready to dispose of you…they have already shown your same old Bullshit will not work this time…

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Manray9 November 5, 2015 at 6:15 pm

As with most issues the devil is in the details. So in Cruz’s la-la land that will be a $760 billion reduction in revenue. Here’s the monkey wrench: What’s he going to stop funding? He won’t save that much abolishing the IRS. What else? Farm subsidies, “fat cat” defense contracts, corporate welfare schemes, oil and gas credits…not a chance.

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 6:42 pm

yep, pretty much gutted everything already, i recon we could cut all social services for the poor and have UN come in and feed them and put them in camps.

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TSIB November 5, 2015 at 6:59 pm

It won’t. He’s full of shit.

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TSIB November 5, 2015 at 6:59 pm

Remember when George W. Bush lied his ass off about his tax plan, and got away with it?

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stumpknocker November 5, 2015 at 7:16 pm

i remember that, the last time a Republican took a stance on principal and he paid for it.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 5, 2015 at 7:24 pm

Yep but the hen house gate was open too long.

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erneba November 5, 2015 at 7:23 pm

Abolish the IRS, come up with a simpler tax plan, I just see all the tax lawyers and tax accountants crapping in their drawers.
Something has to be done to give this economy a kick and this just might do it. I have not read the details, but this could be a morale booster and good for the economy.
The devil is in the details, I would like to know more about it.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 5, 2015 at 7:40 pm

Are you from S Carolina ? Do you vote republican ? Is the state of S. Carolina corrupt from the top down ?

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erneba November 5, 2015 at 8:11 pm

Try to make sense and I might give you answer.

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he may do time November 5, 2015 at 8:20 pm

He is using a another Marines pic as his avatar.Sad.

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erneba November 5, 2015 at 8:30 pm

Thanks for the info. I don’t mind answering legit questions from someone, but as soon as I sense that they are a pompous ass or issuing ad hominem attack, I usually don’t respond.
I don’t know much about this person, from the few times that I have read his comments, I chose then not to waste my time with him.
Thanks for re-enforcing what I suspected.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 5, 2015 at 9:22 pm

If you believe that, any respect ( that I do have ) for a fellow serviceman would be a slap for all that served.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 5, 2015 at 9:26 pm

Come here, and see my pic @ me !

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 5, 2015 at 8:51 pm

Is there a way to be in control again ?

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 5, 2015 at 10:43 pm

I was just a little behind you.

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tomstickler November 5, 2015 at 9:27 pm

To help Will dig a little deeper: http://baselinescenario.com/2015/11/04/60-of-ted-cruzs-tax-cut-goes-to-the-top-1/

For those who decline to click links, 60% of the tax break goes to the top 1%.

The claim that a family of four pays no tax on its first $36,000 of income is basically a lie, since they will pay 16% when they spend the money.

Cruz’s plan does not do away with the four biggest loopholes that favor the rich — the deduction for charitable donations, the mortgage interest deduction, the exclusion for pension contributions, and the exclusion for employer-provided health care.

The long debunked theory that tax cuts encourage growth depends on the arrival of the confidence fairy — so far never seen. That is why Cruz uses “dynamic scoring”. Without that pie-in-the-sky promise of growth, his tax plan adds to the deficit.

The assumption that the tax cuts will be “appropriately financed” can only mean that government spending will be reduced to completely offset the losses of tax revenues. Yet at the same time, Cruz proposes to guarantee funding for Social Security and Medicare.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 5, 2015 at 10:35 pm

Tango and flip, you’re in ! Thank god.

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Carol November 8, 2015 at 6:28 pm

My tax plan will create jobs in other country’s for the Koch brothers…….ok at least he tells the truth except he is not a US citizen. ..Cruz loves him so Koch!

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