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Palmetto Pension Debacle: Scales Falling

“ADVOCATE” FOR RETIREES FINALLY ADMITS THERE IS A PROBLEM || By FITSNEWS || After years of backing the S.C. Retirement System Investment Commission (SCRSIC)’s controversial investment strategies – and defending its abysmal performance – one vocal leader in the Palmetto State’s pension fund debate has finally seen the light. Wayne Bell…

“ADVOCATE” FOR RETIREES FINALLY ADMITS THERE IS A PROBLEM

|| By FITSNEWS || After years of backing the S.C. Retirement System Investment Commission (SCRSIC)’s controversial investment strategies – and defending its abysmal performance – one vocal leader in the Palmetto State’s pension fund debate has finally seen the light.

Wayne Bell – president emeritus of the State Retirees Association of South Carolina – sent an email this week in the aftermath of the surprise resignation of SCRSIC chief investment officer Hershel Harper.

(News of Harper’s resignation was reported exclusively here).

“While not casting stones at the (SCRSIC) or staff, or trying to second guess what they should have done, it probably is time to ask what changes to the investment strategy need to be made,” Bell wrote.

Probably time?

Actually it’s well past time …

Just last March, though, Bell was singing a vastly different tune – telling The Carolina Ledger he was “confident” in the commission’s investment strategy.

S.C. treasurer Curtis Loftis has been on the SCRSIC from day one … like white on rice.

According to Loftis, the fund has left a whopping $7 billion on the table over the last ten years as they pursued a controversial “alternative investment” portfolio.

“They gambled when they chose a complicated, expensive, ‘cutting edge’ investment plan and they lost,” Loftis wrote on his website earlier this month. “They rolled the dice and now you must pay their $7 billion dollar loss.”

He’s right … and we’ve paid a premium for this incompetence.

South Carolina’s corrupt pension fund managers have consistently doled out massive bonuses to the very bureaucrats who have labored to produce some of the worst results of any large pension fund in America (at the highest price, too).

All that was fine with Bell … for years.  In fact this so-called “watchdog” has been nothing but a shill for corrupt fund manager Reynolds Williams and his cronies.

“They did not flinch when I discovered over a billion dollars in unreported fees,” Loftis told us of Bell’s group.  “They did not flinch  when I discovered we were dead last in returns over the last ten years. They did not flinch when I reported they underperformed to the tune of $7 billion dollars.”

Guess the numbers have finally reached a point Bell had no choice but to acknowledge them …

“Only in South Carolina are the watchdog groups effectively controlled by the entities they are supposed to be overseeing,” Loftis said, adding that the commission’s failure “will cost all future taxpayers and government employees a fortune in increased taxes, increased contributions and reduced benefits.”

Indeed …

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272 comments

The Buzzman September 23, 2015 at 8:24 am

Good to see their game falling apart for them.

God work, Curt.

Up next on the “Massive amounts of unaccounted-for money” front: Mike Wooten, that other tool in Charleston (never can remember his name), and SCDOT.

pogo, GFY.

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gfy September 23, 2015 at 11:05 am

Glad to see you on it Boz.Loftis seems like a good and honest man. What concerns me is a lying POS like YOU involving yourself in ANY investigation,even if it just commentary or opinion since you have ZERO credibility and ALL of your past accusations against good and decent citizens have been proven false.

Spewing falsehoods and baseless allegations against the perceived political enemies YOU have created in YOUR apparently sic mind is a formula for ridicule and lawsuits.

Ask David Wren and TSN.

Keep up the good work. Every community needs somebody to laugh at. You obviously found your God given niche.

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The Buzzman September 23, 2015 at 11:38 am

THIS community (readers and commenters on FITSNews) have you to laugh at. Being a comedian, maybe that does make me a tad bit jealous.

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willblogformoney September 23, 2015 at 11:59 am

Ouch!

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Toomuchjuice September 23, 2015 at 6:14 pm

The Buzzman is the Bug man.. The bug man of West Columbia. Poor soul. Too much bug juice… Curt needs help …

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The Buzzman September 23, 2015 at 6:24 pm

Holy shit! I haven’t lived anywhere even close to West Columbia in over 35 years.

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Idiot September 23, 2015 at 6:35 pm

The Buzzman … Explain why you think Curt = good work. You need to be educated so you do not make statement like that. Curt = lies, false accusations, violent temper, gross life style, and more.. Be educated , and stop being the boy who carries the water to the idiot. It makes you an idiot…

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Ted September 23, 2015 at 8:14 pm

Filthy liar. Oh what a tortured soul you must be.

Filthy little liar. How does it feel to be a filthy little liar?

?? September 23, 2015 at 10:52 am

What happened at the Sept 16th ethics hearing where Loftis was facing charges?

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Notbad September 23, 2015 at 5:36 pm

Transparent man, Mr. Transparency could not face the State Ethics Commission so he became Mr. Invisible. He had his attorneys ask for a consent order. A violation took place… Loftis is accused of violation the law… He hired a business associate and intimate buddy to represent the state. His friend profited $2 million… He can afford to retire now on the back of State retirees. His friend in an 1990 affidavit said he had represented Loftis since he was admitted to practice law in 1986. His friend is an attorney… He should know the law… Shame. But then, 2 million dollars … Not bad.. Don’t you think so?

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ted September 23, 2015 at 8:24 pm

Sad, filthy little liar. I pity you

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Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:52 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

Sam seems such a practiced liar. He is a natural for that profession.

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LateToTheParty September 23, 2015 at 11:03 am

Better late than never, I suppose…

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Ethics September 23, 2015 at 12:11 pm

I am tired and disgusted to see his fat face and fat hands on TV… How much money is taken from the fund to advertise for Future Scholars? Loftis is on these commercials way too often.. Very costly and certainly not needed … But Loftis think he is the best…. He has to take care of his intimate friends…Depleting the funds does not bother Loftis….That is what he does with our tax dollars and money in the funds. Names of friends that have gotten million: Ed McMullen, Mike Montgomery, Ed Willoughby… and many more.

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ted September 23, 2015 at 1:59 pm

Lie after lie after lie.

The Investment Commission and their friends should be ashamed

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Worthless September 23, 2015 at 2:45 pm

No, Loftis ,.You should be ashamed. You tell lies after lies and you cannot face the truth. Mental problems from way back, violent temper… Throwing computers, destroying computers disks, bashing your staff with statements like” You are worthless” Abuse of power in office is against the law…

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ted September 23, 2015 at 8:13 pm

Sam Griswold, please stop your filthy way. You are nasty, fat and ugly. You are a liar. Stop your ways!

Stayaway September 23, 2015 at 8:29 pm

Look at you Loftis, Fat, ugly, and infected with incurable diseases. The brain of a roach… Gross man. Stay away from our children and young men…

Faye September 23, 2015 at 8:34 pm

Sam Griswold, Sam Griswold. Run back to Fellow fat assed Reynolds Williams and nurse your hard feelings towards Loftis. Loftis has found you out and you can’t stand it.

You two are crooks!

M326 September 23, 2015 at 8:50 pm

I think Reynolds Williams has contributed a lot to retirees. More than Curtis Loftis. What has Loftis done for retirees? NATHA!

Samtoo September 23, 2015 at 8:53 pm

Sam Griswold, you stank ass old fart.

Reynolds seems to have guided the investment Commission to being the worst investor in the country.

If losing money hand over fist is a good thing, Reynolds Williams is a prince.

Reynolds Williams has put out state into debt that is crushing us.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 10:50 pm

Let us know your position, Curtis. What an ass!

Kyle September 23, 2015 at 10:55 pm

Sam,

If you want Curtis call him. He was a the Trump thing. He was at Dinner with a bunch of political types at Ruth Cris and may still be.Call hm.

But you are dealing with me and I am disappointed. You are better than this crap. You are an educated man and a mature man. Why would you stoop so slow?

Why would you stoop so low?

Jealous September 24, 2015 at 12:28 am

Loftis will never be a trusted man.. He has pissed off so many people in this state… We will be very happy to see him gone ..to Trump, to New York, to Hell. Yes , go away… Loftis will never be missed in this state.. Good riddance and what a relief it would be… Good riddance… Go away Loftis.. Loftis violated the oath of the office to protect and defend the constitution … Vulgar and mentally challenged Loftis.. violated the constitution Go away.. Rejected Loftis … Mad Loftis, Gay man Loftis.. rejected by young men… Jealous Loftis…

Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:51 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

Sam, you have spent 4 years writing such filth. Who pays you?

M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:13 pm

Curtis, Curtis. Why do you hide behind these aliases? Just be honest and post with your name.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 8:48 pm

I may be fat and ugly. But I am not a liar nor am I nasty. You are fat and ugly as well. I guess we have a lot in common.

Samtoo September 23, 2015 at 8:50 pm

You fat assed smelly old man. You sold out your people.

Sam Griswold sold out his people for a few attaboys and a few pieces of silver.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:12 pm

Oh, Curtis, You are so transparent.!

Nick September 23, 2015 at 11:10 am

The left wing leadership of the “retiree group” doing what they were told by the RINO’s. Ain’t no surprise there. This is SC!

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Qualifications September 23, 2015 at 5:10 pm

Loftis was fired from 2 state jobs. Fired by Eckstrom and fired by Andre Bauer…. He is afraid to lose the best job he ever had… He is not qualified for the job and it shows. He has politicized the pension system and must be removed from the commission and forced to appoint someone qualified to represent him on the panel as the governor and comptroller general do. Loftis does not have the qualifications to be on the commission. Period.

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ted September 23, 2015 at 8:24 pm

Liar, oh lair. Why say things not true.

You build up Loftis with every obvious lie you tell.

Poor filthy liar.

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M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:34 pm

How is this a lie? You really are not prepared or educated to do this job on the Investment Commission. What qualifications do you have to serve on this Commission? None whatsoever!

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hal September 23, 2015 at 9:47 pm

Sam, is that your fat stinky ass I smell?
Flabby Sam Griswold ass. Man, what a bitch ass.

Loathsome September 24, 2015 at 2:34 am

Because Sam has an ethics violation against Loftis,,, his ass is stinky? Wait, Loftis has an infected ass with vile loathsome diseases .. incurable… in his own words… Yes , loftis and his own words…under oath… vile loathsome diseases… He has them..

Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:50 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him? Was anyone else paid?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

DEHC 32 years September 23, 2015 at 11:21 am

I belong to the SC Retiree Association and very few of us agree with Griswold and Bell on theses issues. They don’t consult us. Most of us voted for Loftis and will do so again.

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Member September 23, 2015 at 11:31 am

I agree. They have the investment Commission speak to us at most every meeting but never allow the Treasurer to speak. I asked about that and they just rolled their eyes.

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CasaCarolina September 23, 2015 at 11:54 am

Time for Loftis to go to Casa Carolina in Positano. Pay to play Loftis spent one month in the villa owned by Ed McMullen… November 2014, in Italy… Yes, nice trade for advertising for Future Scholars don’t you think? How much money from the fund goes to Ed McMullen? Ed can afford that villa, since he is well taken care of by Loftis … Money from parents and grandparents…. Violated by Loftis again…

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Sic Semper Tyrannis September 23, 2015 at 12:15 pm

You must be part of the problem if you think Curtis is. He broke the sham open !

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Nick Chucker September 23, 2015 at 12:30 pm

Good read.

PRguys September 23, 2015 at 7:10 pm

Sic Semper Tyrannis. You make no sense.. Curtis did not brake any sham open!! Curtis is a cheater and takes the works of others as his own. He was a cheater in school. not for long since he does not have a college degree. He was in a gay parade , OK with that since he is gay. But problems with his gay bashing and hiring gay PR candy faces guys. They came and left… Why did Loftis hire so many PR guys and why so many left?

Desires September 23, 2015 at 7:23 pm

Loftis thinks he is a man of intense desires… Poor soul. Rejected by many … young men do not want old, fat bad ass Curt.. Loftis, you are not my type. Loftis is infected..

Ted September 23, 2015 at 8:10 pm

You are an insignificant person, and a filthy little person too.

Make an appointment and perhaps you can see him. Leave your squalid life, sitting at the computer, making up lies, and visit Loftis. Maybe he will be nice to you. If you are lucky he may give you advice on how to stop being a fight, dirty, nasty liar.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 8:43 pm

Curtis, you are getting obscene. Is that how you want to be remembered?

Samtoo September 23, 2015 at 8:45 pm

I heard Sam Griswold had an adulteress affair on his wife and was found out.
He is a disgusting person.

Mylover September 23, 2015 at 9:10 pm

I heard that Loftis is gay and that he cheated on his wife., He went on trips with his gay lover a day after his wedding.. Divorce papers.. Sworn testimony from his wife… Good grief..

Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:50 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner. Who paid Sam Griswold and how much?

M326 September 23, 2015 at 10:46 pm

Oh. You never had an affair on your wife? How long did that marriage last? Curtis, you just can’t get rid of this.

Kyle September 23, 2015 at 10:48 pm

Sam,

Sam Griswold, this is beneath a man of your age and education. Why would you stop to this. Why would you go so low?

Sam, you should be better than this. You are a disappointment.

ted September 23, 2015 at 8:08 pm

Filthy little liar. Please seek help. You are spending your life trying to hurt a man that is so far above you. He does not know you exist. You are the dog turd on his shoe that he scratches off.

You are a filthy, little person.

Ted September 23, 2015 at 1:57 pm

Just lies. Lie after lie.

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payback September 23, 2015 at 3:07 pm

So you weren’t staying at Casa Caroline in November, 2014? Is that what you are really claiming? Curtis, you are lying!

Ted September 23, 2015 at 8:11 pm

filthy little liar. No one believes you. You are a pathetic person screaming into a computer screen.

seek help. You can have a better life. Stop being a filthy liar.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 8:44 pm

Just say you never stayed at Casa Carolina owned by a subcontractor of the 529 program. Don’t lie, Curtis.

Samtoo September 23, 2015 at 8:46 pm

Sam, glad to see you take ownership of the question, filthy little liar.
Ask Curtis about that. It is my job to keep filthy liar posting so everyone can see how desperate Sam Griswold and the investment Commission are!

M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:51 pm

All I want to know is was he in italy at Casa Carolina in November 2014. Does that seem too much to ask?

William September 23, 2015 at 9:52 pm

Ask him.

Call his office. I have known Loftis since middle school. He pays his own way. He tells the truth.

Ask him.

Help September 24, 2015 at 1:03 am

i agree, Loftis needs to seek help.. He is very sick.. a pathetic person screaming into a computer screen… He has hurt so many people… a filthy liar.. He needs to seek help. Very soon…

Ted September 23, 2015 at 3:26 pm

Lies, lies and more lies.

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Ever September 23, 2015 at 1:53 pm

Loftis is bashing black men, bashing women, bashing veterans, bashing gay men, {he is vile} bashing the investment commission, bashing the Governor, bashing the Attorney General, bashing journalists, bashing staff and former staff of the STO… 100% turn over in the STO. Loftis lies and screams false allegations about everything and everyone. He is too stupid to get along with people. Not to be trusted… ever.

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Macky September 23, 2015 at 1:56 pm

The anti-Loftis commenters project hate.. The other commenters, on both sides of this issue, discuss it like adults.

You hated are sick people and make Loftis look good.

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Notgood September 23, 2015 at 6:55 pm

Macky.. “You hated are sick people and make Loftis look good.”.. Loftis does not look good. His fat ass, infected ass, his fat face, his oozing penis … no Loftis does not look good. Sexual abuse and abuse of power in office does not look good. Infected man, he is…

ted September 23, 2015 at 8:07 pm

filthy little liar. so filthy. So lonely. So sad and pitiful.

Poor filthy little liar.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 8:41 pm

Are you suggesting you are not doing this bashing, Curtis? We all know it’s you.

Samtoo September 23, 2015 at 8:44 pm

You are not very smart so you think what you will. I am not the Treasurer but only a supporter that hates filthy liars like Sam Griswold.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:48 pm

So, at least I am not afraid to identify myself. Curtis Loftis is.

Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:48 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

Sam Griswold is for hire. Send him your nasty filthy jobs.

Votingundertheinfluence September 23, 2015 at 4:31 pm

Poor baby Loftis…. Not allowed to talk to retirees.. Poor baby Loftis… He cannot find his baby bottle but he can find his other bottle…under the influence…

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Ted September 23, 2015 at 8:06 pm

Petty little bitch liar. poor poor you.

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M326 September 23, 2015 at 8:40 pm

Curtis, everybody knows these posts are you. Why does the Treasurer of SC spend his time on this web site?

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Samtoo September 23, 2015 at 8:43 pm

I would love to be the Treasurer. But, alas, I am not.

He is a tower of strength, love and peace. He is a god-like man here fighting sinners like you.

Sam Griswold, you are a sinner. You sold your people out!

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M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:47 pm

Gee, I didn’t know he was god-like. He certainly has a high opinion of himself.

ron September 23, 2015 at 9:49 pm

Sam. Is that your fat flabby, stinky ass I smell?

M326 September 23, 2015 at 10:12 pm

Must be. So how does this improve your argument, Curtis?

Sammm September 23, 2015 at 10:15 pm

Stink fat assed Sam Griswold. Seeking approval from Reynolds Williams.

How sad. Selling out your people for a few coins.

Hestinks September 23, 2015 at 10:22 pm

Loftis is drunk.. Too much and Loftis is under the influence.. Another flavor of the week.. We have seen many flavors of the week.. Poor Loftis, cannot stand on his own feet .. He has to borrow someone else.. He sure stinks..

sammmm September 23, 2015 at 10:24 pm

Sam Griswold,
I smell you fat ass from here. You should trademark it .”SamAssStank,: A Griswold product.

Stayaway September 23, 2015 at 10:34 pm

We smell your ass Loftis.. Vile, infected ass with an oozing penis.. Contagious and incurable .. In your own words. Incurable , for life… contagious .. Stay away from our children and young men…

Kyle September 23, 2015 at 10:36 pm

Sam Griswold.
This is no longer fun since you have taken ownership of all this filth you have posted abut Loftis. Wow, at your age, posting all this filth.
Wow

Bully September 23, 2015 at 10:15 pm

Oh, I want to go back to 2003 and alt talk royalty… Google Richinus2003 and you will find what a jerk and vile person Loftis is.. a cyberbully from way back… Censured for being a bully and more.

sammm September 23, 2015 at 10:17 pm

Sam Sam sam. So nice to see you owning your lies and deception. Fat assed Sam finally owning this bile.
Stinky fat ass Sam. Own it.

Wewanttoknow September 23, 2015 at 10:54 pm

Loftis is finally owning his lies and deception. Fat as Loftis,finally owning this bile . Stinky fat ass Loftis… Infected , contagious fat ass Loftis.. stay away from our children and young men… By the way.. what happened to $900,000 from the Bank of NewYork/Mellon.. Is that money in the pockets of Loftis? Is that money in the STO? I bet it is in the pockets of Loftis… We want to know.. We need to know. $900,000 is a lot of money…

kyle September 23, 2015 at 10:56 pm

Sam Griswold, Sm Griswold. Quit while you can. You have taken ownership of the deception. You are busted and you know it.

Sam, you are better than this. You are educated and mature. Why would you spend time posting such filth.

Sam, you are better than this. Why did you do it?

Ownit September 24, 2015 at 12:54 am

Curt,curt,curt, So nice to see you owning your lies and deception. Fat assed Curt finally owning this bile. Stinky fat ass Curt. Own it.

Fatass September 24, 2015 at 12:50 am

Curt, is that your fat flabby, stinky ass I smell?

Bet September 24, 2015 at 12:42 am

So, Sam is the flavor of the week… Loftis is so predictable.. A flavor of the week. We had so many flavors of the week, coming from Curtis Loftis, an elected official of SC, with many mental issues. What a shame that an elected official is spending so much time posting on FITS… Using tax payers time, tax payers computers, tax payers dimes. Is it because Sam filed a complaint to the State Ethics Commission and Loftis’s butt is toast? Loftis knows he is guilty, He hired his sweet intimate buddy and gave him $2 million. Sweet indeed… on the back of state retirees…

Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:47 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

Sam, Sam Sam. Please tell us how much you were paid to sell out your people.

Lies September 24, 2015 at 7:07 pm

Lies… lies… and more lies. from sick Loftis

Howmanymorepaytoplay September 23, 2015 at 12:57 pm

No, you do not belong. Loftis will be impeached soon… Pay to play Loftis … Many violations.. First, pay to play scheme , involving the state’s $24.5 billion retirement fund and Curtis Loftis was April 6, 2012… with Mallory Factor. Documents via the FOIA showed that Factor recommended the companies to Loftis and in turn, Loftis recommended the companies for contracts with the commission. Factor would have been paid if the commission selected one of the firm… Read the news article in the State “Attorney General clears Loftis in pension probe” Cleared that time by Alan Wilson…. The second violation in July 23, 2015. Ethics complaint alleges S.C. treasurer hired business associate to represent state. Loftis was too scared to face the hearing schedules Sept. 16. Consent order… Let’s hope that the State Ethics Commission does not clear Loftis. The case is well documented… and Loftis stands accused and he knows that he is guilty.

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Nick Chucker September 23, 2015 at 1:09 pm

Appears to me that Loftis is trying to protect the SC citizens.Why are you against that?

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Abuse September 23, 2015 at 1:30 pm

Is Alan Wilson involved in the Ethics complaint? Rumors are that the tax payers will pay for Loftis’s attorneys… Loftis is using and abusing the SC citizens and the tax payers of this state. Oh, by the way.. Loftis is delinquent of $14,274.14 on a house 353 Shadow Race LN, in City of Folly Beach.. Pay your taxes transparent man… We, the citizens pay our taxes.

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ted September 23, 2015 at 1:58 pm

Lie after lie after lie.

The Investment Commission and their cronies like Sam Griswold and Wayne Bell should stop this filth.

Ted September 23, 2015 at 1:58 pm

Lie after lie after lie.

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Inconvenient September 23, 2015 at 3:13 pm

Loftis, the newspapers articles are very clear. So Loftis you are lying… lie after lie after lie. Loftis Cannot tell the difference between the facts and lies. Facts are inconvenient, aren’t they?

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Ted September 23, 2015 at 8:12 pm

Liar, oh ye filthy little liar. You sound so desperate. you sound so full of hate and bile and envy.

Stop your sinful ways and stop being the filthy little liar that you are!

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M326 September 23, 2015 at 8:46 pm

“Ye” Well, Curtis, are we now talking biblical?

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Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:46 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

Sam, you have gone so low, I hope you were paid a lot!

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GreenvileGuy September 23, 2015 at 11:29 am

This pension fund issue is the most serious issue before the State. i hope the parties come together on this and stop in bleeding.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis September 23, 2015 at 12:12 pm

Good luck, if you think the crooks will give up thier easy money

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Nick Chucker September 23, 2015 at 12:27 pm

Hillary and Bill haven’t yet.

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Change IP much? No. September 23, 2015 at 1:44 pm

We all know it’s you Flip.

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Nick Chucker September 23, 2015 at 1:48 pm

Who is ‘flip’?

Kelly September 23, 2015 at 2:26 pm

That is the truth. They are criminals and they will not give up control of our money without a fight!

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Moretocome September 23, 2015 at 7:33 pm

No, Curtis Loftis is the criminal.. 220 million lost from the trust fund of retirees.. And more to come….

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Ted September 23, 2015 at 8:05 pm

Filthy little liar. Why do you spend your life screaming lies into a computer.

No one cares what you think. You know that because if they did care you would not be posting on here under an anonymous name.

You have delusions of importance. You are a sad filthy creature.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 8:38 pm

apparently you care!

Serious September 23, 2015 at 5:54 pm

The STO is the most serious issue before the state and the tax payers. 100 percent turnover in the STO… Loftis has replaced institutional knowledge with friends and friends of friends. PR guys, with pretty faces have come and go. seven? Sordid..

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ted September 23, 2015 at 8:05 pm

Filthy little liar. Oh, you filthy little liar.

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M326 September 23, 2015 at 8:39 pm

very sordid

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SAmToo September 23, 2015 at 8:41 pm

Yes Sam Griswold . You are a master liar. You sold out the retirees and government employees. We know who you are.

You sold us out for a few silver coins.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:45 pm

Well, just how much in silver coins would it take to buy me? I have plenty of income from my other investments. I get nothing and want nothing from retirees or the investment commission.

ted September 23, 2015 at 9:48 pm

So you say. Fat assed Sam Griswold. Flabby assed. Stinky assed.
You need depends.Oder free.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 10:10 pm

Oh, Curtis. What about your ass? Richinus2003. Look up his foolish diatribes.

Sammm September 23, 2015 at 10:16 pm

Sam o Sam.
Huge fat assed Sam Griswold. They names Uranus after your ass. They may dice your fat ass up and feed Africa.
Ass…big old fat flabby stinky ass Sam Griswold!

M326 September 23, 2015 at 10:41 pm

Gosh, I did not realize Loftis was so fascinated with my ass!

sammmm September 23, 2015 at 10:43 pm

It is a huge, fat, flabby, smelly, ancient old ass.

it smells like old cheese and bonuses like jelly.

Stank Ass by Sam Griswold!

Electedofficial September 23, 2015 at 11:34 pm

Really, Loftis .. is that all you got.. You are an elected official who has sworn to defend and protect the law of this state and of the united states… Bashing people, gay men, black men, attorneys, state officials, senators, the governor, the attorney general, staff and former staff, veterans, .. and more.. Curtis Loftis, State Treasurer… Really is that what you got and what you do… Post on Fits and accuse people … What a sorry treasurer you are… What a shame you are to this state.

Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:45 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner. Sam, please tell us how much you are being paid.

Philip Branton September 23, 2015 at 11:36 am

Hmm……from reading this article here: http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/9/23/catholic-groups-debate-divesting-from-fossil-fuels.html

….it is clearly evident that the “managers” never consulted a fine priest around this state…..

………..and Curtis Loftis needs to pray a little more…….

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The Buzzman September 23, 2015 at 2:10 pm

Earth to Philip … glad to see you still commenting, even though you seldom make a bit of sense.

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Soft Sigh from Hell September 23, 2015 at 5:35 pm

I haven’t seen the “garbage laser” stuff in a long time.

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you know me September 23, 2015 at 12:27 pm

His brother has said that Curtis has received death threats.

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Nick Chucker September 23, 2015 at 12:30 pm

Shame.appears Loftis is working for the taxpayers.

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GC September 23, 2015 at 2:22 pm

The insiders hate to see someone be honest and to require others to be honest.
It is easy to see why good people don’t run for office. A handful of insiders that loot the place will libel anyone that stands u for the taxpayer

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Grossman September 23, 2015 at 7:57 pm

Honesty is good.. Loftis is not honest. Mr. Transparency is not transparent… Mr. Transparent is a jerk, a liar, a fake. Gross man with vile obsessions.

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ted September 23, 2015 at 8:00 pm

Filthy liar, do you see yourself as a mature and intelligent person?

So sad for you, a filthy liar filled with hate.

Poorbaby September 23, 2015 at 3:21 pm

Poor baby… Where is his baby bottle? Scared Loftis, scared to be in front of the State Ethics Commission because he knows that he violated the law,. He even told his staff that he was scared of the ethics violation… Guilty

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ted September 23, 2015 at 3:25 pm

lies, lies and more lies.
Nasty little person, why do you spend your time lying?

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?? September 23, 2015 at 7:29 pm

What happened at the Sept 16th ethics hearing where Loftis was facing charges?

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Gotohell September 23, 2015 at 7:35 pm

Loftis should go to hell and he knows it… Vile man…

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Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:44 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

Why Sam, why?

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Onthebackofretirees September 27, 2015 at 8:45 pm

Loftis did shit his pants and could not face the Ethics Commission but he agreed that a violation took place and that he did violated the law. Hired friend . associated with friend with whom he was associated , profited, $ 2 million dollars… Friend with whom you are associated got $2 million. Sweet deal.. Can retire on the back of retirees… Sweet indeed..

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biff September 23, 2015 at 12:30 pm

Good for Curtis. He the #1 SC rockstar. Owns that job like a mutha.

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Liability September 23, 2015 at 2:22 pm

Please , Curtis Loftis, explain why the unfunded liability doubled in the tuition prepayment program? A very good question in need of an answer as soon as possible…Why did the unfunded liability doubled?

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ted September 23, 2015 at 2:23 pm

lie after lie after lie

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justsayin September 23, 2015 at 2:59 pm

The state audit for fy 2014 shows that the unfunded liability doubled from 2013 to 2014 for the tuition prepayment program. Surely the State Auditor isn’t lying. Whey the big jump. What does this mean for kids registered in the program? What did Loftis do to jeopardize their education?

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Ted September 23, 2015 at 7:59 pm

The Tuition Prepayment Program was closed by the General Assembly on 2008. That fund will deplete its asset in a few years. It depends on appropriations from the General Assembly and they have not made any. It is the Treasurer’s job to deplete the assets in an orderly way and to advise the general assembly. The Treasurer is doing an excellent job.

But of course you know all of this but choose to lie. Because you are a filthy little liar.

Noresponsibility September 23, 2015 at 8:16 pm

Curtis Loftis, you will always blame somebody else. It is never your fault. Deceiving the public and mothers and grandfathers should be a crime. You are telling us the fund is broke and that you have no responsibility?

Ted September 23, 2015 at 8:25 pm

poor filthy liar. Poor filthy liar.

Sam Griswold has not trained you well. Sam is a professional liar.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 8:36 pm

Oh, Curtis, you must be desperate. I had nothing to do with this post.

Sam Too September 23, 2015 at 8:39 pm

Is this Sam, the stooge of the rich and powerful. The man that sold out the government employees and retirees?

Yea, that is Sam.

Pockets September 23, 2015 at 9:35 pm

Loftis, STFU.. you are not even close to reach his ankles.. You are in the gutter, the shit way to your ankles. Loftis is a cheater , a liar, a fake… no if , no maybe, Loftis is a fake.. looking out for Loftis. for himself. No degree, no brain, violent temper, screams, false accusations.. No need for that man.. Get lost, Loftis.. The state will be better off without you. What have you done for this state? Nothing… Looks like you put money in your pockets and the pockets of your friends.

John September 23, 2015 at 9:41 pm

Sam Griswold. You are an old man. How can you use such language.
Sam Griswold, did Reynolds Williams pay you to say those things?

M326 September 23, 2015 at 10:39 pm

Oh, Curtis, it is not me.

Kyle September 23, 2015 at 10:41 pm

Sam Griswold,
You have tipped your hand. You have taken ownership.
The fun has gone out of this now.
You truly are a despicable old man that sold himself out to the Commission. Wow, All I can say is wow. You are as low as a man can be.
Your masters at the Commission got a good deal. You did your work well.

Moralviolation September 23, 2015 at 11:57 pm

Loftis ,you are low… very low… Very serious concerns about the male orphans in Ukraine. The Saluda Foundation,, shitty organization .. Forum, 2003. Violation here, moral violation…

Sam September 24, 2015 at 6:44 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

Sam has sunk so low. How much was he paid to bathe is filth?

Wayoutofhere September 23, 2015 at 11:49 pm

Loftis is a scared man, afraid to lose the best job he ever had… A Bugman from West Columbia.. without any education past Brookland Cayce High School, with a violent insane temper, a vile life style, violence against women and abuse of his staff…” You are worthless” Loftis needs to go… Trump… take him out of SC. Take him and his sweet friend Ed McMullen.. and his sweet friends.,Mike and Logan, and … to way out of here… I cannot take it any more…

Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:43 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

Only money would make a man do what Sam has done.

Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:42 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him? How much were you paid?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

Example September 24, 2015 at 12:01 am

Example, please… Loftis lies and lies and lies.. He cannot see the truth because he lies… His lies become truth to him… Sick

M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:37 pm

So it is responsible to increase the unfunded liability of this fund by 100%? Curtis, even you must admit there are questions to be raised about this.

Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:42 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

Wow much are you being paid to lie, Sam Griswold?

Kyle September 23, 2015 at 11:03 pm

Sam Griswold. You now own this filth. I am shocked. You are an educated man, a mature man. And you spent years posting filth, deception and lies.

I am stopping now, Sam. You are disappointing me. And your friends. You have let us all down. You are a traitor t your class.

You are what you accused Loftis of being.

Sorryman September 23, 2015 at 11:15 pm

If the fund will deplete its asset in a few years… why in the world would you Curtis Loftis come on tV and paint a future bright… A lie and many commercials on tV. False and fake… Mr.Transparency is a liar, abusing tax payers and mothers and fathers and grandfathers… putting money in a program that was closed and will deplete its asset in a few years.. Loftis , you are sorry..

Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:41 am

There are two different programs.

1. Loftis administers and markets the 529 Future Scholars Fund. It is one of the best in the country.
2. The college prepayment fund shuttered by the General Assembly during the term of Converse Chellis. It is paying itself down to zero, as planned. It will deplete its assets, as planned, in a few years.

You know this so why do you lie, Sam Griswold?

Ned September 23, 2015 at 2:24 pm

Wayne Bell and Sam Griswold are part of a handful of people posting comments here that can only be considered pornographic. They should stop.

Or better yet, Reynolds Williams should make them stop.

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Paul September 23, 2015 at 2:27 pm

the effective use of a third party is an old and established practice by politicians. it is interesting that a government organization like the Investment Commission is using one. I hope this is investigated.

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Jerry September 23, 2015 at 2:30 pm

Sam Griswold is an insiders stooge. He has shilled for them for years. Griswold never met a government program he did not like or a government expenditure that he could not figure a way to get his hands on.
When Sam is in charge the money is not safe.

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$900000 September 23, 2015 at 3:00 pm

LOL! What a good laugh, Dr. Sam Griswold has been retired from State government for more than 13 years. Loftis , where is your degree? When Loftis is in charge, the tax payers money is not safe… Over $220 million lost from the trust fund of retirees. 9 million paid to Mike Montgomery and Mitch Willoughby, paid outside the state system. Was $900,000 paid to the State treasurer? Where is that money? In his pockets or in the STO?

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Dan September 23, 2015 at 8:21 pm

Sam Griswold. of the fat assed smell butt Griswolds.

Why would you say such things about Loftis. While he may be your superior in every way you repeatedly disrespect him.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:03 pm

My superior?? What a pile of crap!!

M326 September 23, 2015 at 3:25 pm

Yes, that Sam is a really bad person. Why, I saw him help a little old lady cross the street and she didn’t even want to go! I saw him ask a little kid for a lick of his ice cream cone and he ate the whole thing! I saw him replace food stamps with a debit card now we can’t identify who to hate in the grocery store! He is just bad news wherever he goes. I’ve heard that he stepped on a roach not once but twice! Oh, yes, then he filed an ethics complaint against you, Curt. No wonder you hate him. And all you can do is anonymously call him names. What to do?? He should be deported to work his evil in another state. He is soooo bad! (And he only posts using one name.)

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Mary September 23, 2015 at 8:19 pm

Desperate Sam, lashing out at Curtis.

Sam, you are wrong. You were wrong. Admit your stupidity and repent!

M326 September 23, 2015 at 10:05 pm

Oh, Curtis. You are so pitiful. Nobody accepts your foolish claims. What reason would I have to denigrate you? Only your foolish actions regarding the well-being of retirees. You are a fool and we know it.

sammmm September 23, 2015 at 10:06 pm

Fat assed Sam Griswold. What a smell ass. He ass. Flabby ass!

you know me September 24, 2015 at 11:03 am

Gay men can be so childish.

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jimlewisowb September 23, 2015 at 2:56 pm

Fuck ’em, Fuck the Horses they rode in on, Fuck’em All, Fuckin’ Cockroaches

PS – Hey Reynolds, when they finally put your sorry ass in the ground you better have someone tell them to add about 200 lbs. of lead to your coffin – the line of people waiting to piss on your grave will stretch from Florence to Quinby and back

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Seth September 24, 2015 at 6:36 am

Reynolds Williams has cost this state 7 billion dollars. He ought to be in jail.

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Sconset987 September 23, 2015 at 3:15 pm

Harper’s departure and Loftis’ criticisms are two separate issues. FITS should not try to combine them in another misguided effort to make Lofits look good. While Harper was OK in the deputy role, he turned out not to be a good fit as chief investment officer. However, Loftis’ criticisms about investment strategy, returns and corruption continually fall flat because the facts simply do not support him. It seem to me that Loftis’ bigger concern should be with the consent order he signed with the Ethics Commission. Now that he has admitted fault, will there be a criminal referral?

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Mary September 23, 2015 at 3:18 pm

You are wrong. You are obviously not an investor. Loftis hit the nail on the head and for the last 4 years he has been dead on this issue. Income down, expenses up, and debt up. Simple, isn’t it.

It took others 4 years to realize it. Don’t penalize Loftis for being on target and early, penalize others for being slow.

Please site your source for the consent order. I can’t find it anywhere.

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Cheater September 23, 2015 at 3:53 pm

Loftis is not on target… Loftis takes the work of others and takes credit for it… Reminds me of a cheater who took my homework and said it was all his work… I bet Loftis cheated a lot in school. I bet Loftis cheated a lot in life… Many complaints about his cheating ways from way back. Alt.talk.royalty 2004. Many law suits in rental business and bugs control business. Cheater…

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Sic Semper Tyrannis September 23, 2015 at 4:12 pm

Hopefully you and 987 will be looking for a job soon !

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Youareafool September 23, 2015 at 4:15 pm

Why would I be looking for a job soon? Tell me… you are a fool.

Sic Semper Tyrannis September 23, 2015 at 4:29 pm

If it wasn’t for Curtis the crooks would never have been found. Read your own post numbnut.

Faye September 23, 2015 at 8:18 pm

Poor, ignorant fool.

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scott September 24, 2015 at 6:35 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

Who is paying Sam Griswold?

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Sconset987 September 23, 2015 at 3:54 pm

Mary is a new fake name for your posts isn’t it Curtis? And, just because The State didn’t write about you avoiding a public hearing by signing a consent order, doesn’t mean your problem isn’t real.

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Andrew September 23, 2015 at 8:17 pm

Smelly fat bastard Sam Griswold. Fucked around on his wife. Cheated the state. Now he is shilling for the Investment Committee. Only in SC

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M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:01 pm

Why don’t you call my wife and get her comments on this? You are a dreadful character assassin reflecting your own deficiencies. What did your wife say about you??? I know what she said.

Samtoo September 23, 2015 at 9:04 pm

Your wife? I hear you had an open marriage. Her words means nothing.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:31 pm

NO, I am asking about YOUR wife! What did she say about YOU??

samtpoo September 23, 2015 at 9:33 pm

Sam Griswold, No one wants to hear about you marriage.

Generally speaking, people hate hearing about open marriage.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 10:29 pm

Nobody wants to hear about my marriage. But they might want to hear about yours. Let’s make public your divorce hearings. Oh, My. What a mess!

Kyle September 23, 2015 at 10:34 pm

Oh my. Sam Griswold, taking ownership of thousands of nasty, deceptive, filthy post.
Sam Griswold, shilling for the Retirement System as they lost billions.
Sam Griswold is the author of all this shit that has been posted against Loftis.

Sam Griswold ought to be ashamed.

I have screen shot this stuff and will send to Loftis. He won’t be surprised, but others will.

Sam Griswold takes ownership. Wow.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 10:00 pm

Loftis’s wife of 6 months had some choice comments. Let’s hear them!

Sammmm September 23, 2015 at 10:05 pm

Sam Griswold, Sam Griswold. Glad you are taking ownership of those filthy posts. Cant wait to show Loftis that you were the “Artist” of deception and filth. Of course, he always knew!

Seth September 23, 2015 at 3:19 pm

The National media has repeatedly reported this story and has been favorable to Loftis. The local press, not so much. Just shows you how the establishment runs government, the press, the Chamber, etc.

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Blessed September 23, 2015 at 7:48 pm

The national media… Blessed are they for they do not know the truth about the monster Curtis Loftis… We, in South Carolina, know his ways and they are evil… Loftis is an evil man… stupid… violent .. gross.. and more.

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Ted September 23, 2015 at 8:16 pm

Oh, fifthly little liar. I pity you.

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Dicky September 23, 2015 at 3:22 pm

Loftis has had to endure these juvenile, nasty comments for 4 years. The investment Commission and the Commission Godfather Reynolds Williams ought be ashamed on themselves.
Of course, if the Commission’s actions were defensible they would do so, but they are not, so they lash out at Loftis with nasty personal attacks. It is all very 4th grade. Maybe 3rd grade.

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Weknowhim September 23, 2015 at 3:39 pm

Loftis is known for attacking people … for making false accusations, for insulting people and their mother, and children , for spreading lies … He is known for his moral turpitude… attacking staff and former staff… He has done a lot of these attacks here on FITS… Yes , we have copies and we know Loftis. and we will not forget. We know Loftis and his ways.. And we will not take it anymore…

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ted September 23, 2015 at 8:15 pm

You are such a filthy little liar.

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Sickofyou September 24, 2015 at 3:00 am

Many people have had to endure these juvenile nasty comments from Curtis Loftis.. He should be ashamed . An elected official behaving that grossly.. with very nasty personal attacks.. Yes, Loftis and your nasty personal attacks… on staff and former staff, on senators, on legislators, on the governor, on the state attorney, on veterans, on black men, on women, on journalists… Loftis, we sick of you… When people know you, they are sick of you…

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scott September 24, 2015 at 6:34 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

Sam, tell us the truth for once!

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Mick September 23, 2015 at 3:24 pm

The Investment Commission is dead last in returns for 10 year period ending June 30, 2015.

Among highest fees in country, in fact $2.6 billion in fees over the ten years!

Are they even an “ongoing concern?” I suppose they are because they are government, not a business.

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James September 23, 2015 at 5:44 pm

Now you see why retirees only get a 1% cost of living raise the fat cats get the rest.

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William September 23, 2015 at 8:15 pm

Sam Griswold has helped the bad guys fleece SC and the retirees and he got a few silver coins for his trouble. We all got robbed!

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M326 September 23, 2015 at 8:58 pm

Please let me know how I profited from my activities. My efforts have actually cost me money since I receive no remuneration from anybody. I just try to advocate for what is right.

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Lone Ranger September 23, 2015 at 6:00 pm

That’s right—you all-day suckers keep electing pompous
Loftis and Kenny Bingham and to prove you’re as immoral as you are dumb…let’s
agree

That no doubt at all you were the same gutless and stupid
drones who keep electing I-Rip-Down-Patriots’-Flag-Joe Wilson and Lindsey
Grahamnesty !!!

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Sally September 23, 2015 at 7:56 pm

I just saw Loftis at the Tump event and he was shaking hands and having his picture taken over and over again. I think you haters ought to grown up and get over this childish love/hate relationship and rid yourself of the anger and join life.

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Destruct September 23, 2015 at 8:21 pm

Trump will self destruct and Loftis will too. Actions are louder … Facts are facts

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Wash September 24, 2015 at 2:53 am

Hope that they wash their hands, very carefully and completely. Loftis has loathsome vile incurable diseases.

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Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:33 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

Sam, tell us who is paying you too make a fool of yourself.

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Sally September 23, 2015 at 8:02 pm

The Investment Commission is dead last in returns and the highest in fees. A lemonade stand, and insurance company or any business would be bankrupt. Not the Commission, it confiscates money from retirees and taxpayers so it stays in business.

Fat assed Sam Griswold and his small band of liars work hard to libel the Treasurer. Looks like the Treasurer will get the last laugh.

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Jeff September 23, 2015 at 8:27 pm

Griswold was run off from HHS. He was run off because he was having an affair with a saffer and was lousy at his job.
His wife did not care (who would want to fuck fat Sam Griswold) but the Governor did not forget and ran that fat, smell ass off!

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Nick September 23, 2015 at 8:36 pm

I understand Sam was very closed to being indicted. But I also heard he had the goods on Leatherman, so he was saved by that.

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Don September 23, 2015 at 8:37 pm

I heard the same thing. I also heard Sam had an open marriage so it was not really an affair.

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Scott September 23, 2015 at 8:56 pm

Carol Campbell told me Sam Griswold was the biggest crook he ever met.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:26 pm

Carrol Cambell awarded Sam the Order of the Palmetto for his work on Cambell’s cabinet. Yeah, he really thought Sam was a crook.

Samtoo September 23, 2015 at 9:28 pm

Everybody gets that worthless peace of paper. Especially if they are running you off and want the whole sordid affair kept quiet.

Sam Griswold is not liked by anyone that is why he is a willing stooge for the rich and powerful.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 10:25 pm

Gee, does everybody like you??

sam September 23, 2015 at 10:29 pm

SAM Griswold ASS!

The ultimate ass for the ultimate stank. Sam ASS, brought to you from Sam Ass Griswold!

Attendance September 24, 2015 at 2:23 am

Curtis Loftis is the ultimate stank . Curtis ASS, brought to you from Curtis Ass Loftis… There you go… A play by Curtis and his ass and Sam and his ass… Bet we have a record attendance… You are an idiot, Loftis… An elected official.. What an ass…

Waste September 24, 2015 at 2:43 am

Where is your degree Loftis… High school… no other training in finance… that was very costly to the state and it is very costly to the tax payers. Loftis is spending his time on FITS, on tax payers time, on tax payers computers, on tax payers provided office… Loftis is a waste of tax payers money… a fake man.. a lie..

scott September 24, 2015 at 6:32 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner. Sam, please show your tax returns!

Samtoo September 23, 2015 at 9:26 pm

I think Dick Riley thought the same thing.

Honeymoon September 24, 2015 at 2:49 am

I heard that Loftis cheated on his wife many times before his marriage and went on a trip with his sweet boy friend when they came back from “their honeymoon.”.. It is in the divorce papers… Very honest Curtis Loftis.. Honeymoon with boyfriend… Wife not invited.. LOL

Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:31 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.Sam, please show our taxes and let us know who is paying you.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 8:56 pm

Indicted for what?

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Official September 24, 2015 at 1:56 am

Do you feel better Loftis ? Dr. Sam Griswold retired 13 years ago from state government and has a true, honored reputation.. Loftis is very jealous of the fact that he is respected in the state . Loftis is not respected and never will be. Trump will not be president, ever.. Loftis will never be governor , ever. Too many pay to play schemes by Loftis… Too many lies, too many insane accusations… Loftis is not a respected elected official…. shame.

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Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:29 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him? Sam Should show his taxes!

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

Hanged September 23, 2015 at 8:47 pm

Curtis you are a real quality act.. keep up the commentary. Having an affair with a saffer? What is that? Loftis you are under the influence… So , we have a new flavor of the week.. we had many flavors of the week.. Poor , sick, Loftis with his flavors of the week… Rejected by PR guys, rejected by candy face boys. Loftis likes well hanged boys… See Alt.talk.royalty. 2004.

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Samtoo September 23, 2015 at 8:49 pm

Sam Griswold, Sam Griswold.

Diresting a small band of Investment Commission cronies to bash the treasurer. Sam Griswold, you are lower than low.

You sold out your people. You sold them out for a few attaboys and a few silver coins.

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M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:24 pm

Just had a meeting of state retirees. They seem supportive because they know the truth. Sorry, Curtis.

Samtoo September 23, 2015 at 9:26 pm

Sam Griswold, the fat asses Sam Griswold.

No one believes you. You are not worth believing. No one cares what you say. You are vile

M326 September 23, 2015 at 10:24 pm

If fat asses are a negative, many retirees would be affected. Thanks, Curtis.

dan September 23, 2015 at 10:27 pm

“SAM=ASS=STANK”

Huge, smelly, rank, hairy, stinky, Sam Stank!

Pretend September 24, 2015 at 2:04 am

Baby Loftis.. Did you lose your baby bottle… Whine and cry… Loftis is a sorry elected official… What a role model… He needs to go to mama to learn to hold the role of state treasurer. … Shame and disgrace.. Loftis, stand up and pretend to be state treasurer…You cannot even pretend to be state treasurer. No one believes you..No one cares what you say.. You are vile..

Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:28 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner. Who is paying Sam?

Dan September 23, 2015 at 8:54 pm

I worked for Sam. I hated him. He was rude, pompous, had bad breath and hot on ladies all the time.

Sam is the worst creep I ever met in government and I was glad he was run off.

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M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:23 pm

I did have bad breath. My wife insisted that I gargle every morning. So hopefully I conquered that deficiency. The rest seems Loftis’s imagination.

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M326 September 23, 2015 at 8:55 pm

Lets see. Sam was on the cabinet of two governors–Carroll Campbell and Jim Hodges heading up DSS and DHSS. He was the chief operating officer of the Budget and Control Board. One might think he had something to contribute. Do you have evidence otherwise?

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Converse September 23, 2015 at 8:57 pm

He was run off from two of the three jobs! I heard he was almost indicted. And everyone knows about the affair. I mean how tacky was that.
Sam Griswold is a very bad character. Stay away for him!

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M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:20 pm

Oh, yes, a very bad character. Now what was it he did again??

Dan September 23, 2015 at 9:22 pm

Sam Griswold is a careless man with other peoples money. Time and time again.

Sam Griswold is a vile and disgusting man. Just ask his neighbors.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 10:22 pm

Thanks, Curtis. One could say the same about you.

sammmm September 23, 2015 at 10:28 pm

SAM GRISWOLD PRESENTS “ASS.”

A play starring Sam Griswold and his huge ass. Stank, hairy, flabby, old stank Ass!

Veryscary September 24, 2015 at 2:16 am

Sammm… … Curtis Loftis presents ” ASS”
A play starring Curtis Loftis and his huge ass. Stank, hairy, flabby, old stank Ass! Curtis Loftis is our State Treasurer… Come see this distinguished elected official… Sad.. He is in charge of the state money and many funds… and he has violated these funds… He has lost 220 million dollars from the retirees trust fund… but his sweet intimate friends got paid… What will he do next? and what has he done to the STO? Sick and very scary…

Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:28 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner. Sam Griswold should show his taxes!

nitrat September 23, 2015 at 9:41 pm

Sam worked at DSS long before the cabinet system was on the drawing board. I worked at DSS when he was state director and I think it was during my ’74 – ’85 stint. They had 4 or 5 directors, hired by the DSS board, during that time. But, the agency ALWAYS ran the smoothest when Robert Floyd was interim director, which he was frequently with turnover like that.
Don’t know when or if he was at DHHS….I don’t know what DHSS is.

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ted September 23, 2015 at 9:45 pm

Sam was a disaster for the agency. He was a one man wrecking crew. And his ass was very fat. And stinky.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 10:21 pm

Oh, yes, the size of his ass is very important.

ted September 23, 2015 at 10:25 pm

Huge Sam Griswold ass. SAM+ASS+STANK.

Google it and be mesmerize be Griswold ASS!

Town Crier September 25, 2015 at 2:55 pm

The Sam I knew during those tenures was chosen for those jobs because of his extensive knowledge of those agencies and state government in general. Well respected and well liked. No matter what Loftis puts out there, he can’t change Sam’s record of accomplishments. Loftis has accomplished nothing, unless you count the record turnover in employees as such. What he fails to realize is that no one is responsible for his current predicament but him. As long as I’ve known Loftis, he has never played well with others. Politics is just not a good fit for him.

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M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:19 pm

“Saffer” never had an affair with me. If you knew my wife, you would know there is no need for an affair.

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M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:17 pm

I am trying to assess my ass. It does not seem fat to me given my age and all. But then, I guess that is a matter of opinion. I need to look at Curtis’s ass more closely to see if it is fatter than mine. Wonder what I will find?

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Disease September 24, 2015 at 1:40 am

You will find that Curtis and his ass have an incurable disease.. Your ass is better… no problem there…

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Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:27 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know why Sam Griswold has acted in such a juvenile manner.

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Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:26 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.

How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid Sam Griswold? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?

I want to know.

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Mitch September 23, 2015 at 8:31 pm

I must say that thee Loftis haters are incredible. I hope someone studies all this because such comments are very rare. The is really sick stuff.

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nitrat September 23, 2015 at 9:32 pm

“South Carolina’s corrupt pension fund managers have consistently doled out massive bonuses to the very bureaucrats who have labored to produce some of the worst results of any large pension fund in America (at the highest price, too).”
Actually, board has just acted like the ignorant Southern Republicans that they are…in way over their heads. They thought if Mitt was good enough to work in private equity, it must be the way to go. And, they managed the pension fund managers like they worked at a private equity company/racket; in other words, it didn’t matter if the investment made any money for the investors/state employees & retirees, the fund manager in NYC and at the retirement system got their cuts off the top.
My God, get the money out and put it in US Savings Bonds and we would be better off.

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Kyle September 23, 2015 at 9:39 pm

Nitrat,

The Investment Commission is the worst performer in the country. The worst! It is awful. Loftis has done his best but he needs help. People like you, intelligent retirees, must step up and use your wisdom and connections.

Call him and help him out. If the Commission is not altered and investment returns not bettered, the state will suffer for decades.

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nitrat September 23, 2015 at 9:49 pm

The legislature has to do something about that commission.

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Kyle September 23, 2015 at 9:50 pm

I hope so. I know Loftis is going to see them. Lets hope and pray the legislature moves.

How can they not. We are going bankrupt.

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M326 September 23, 2015 at 9:41 pm

Savings bonds would not meet the demands of managing our retirement fund. This is an astoundingly ignorant suggestion. Go back to investing school!

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nitrat September 23, 2015 at 9:43 pm

Irony is a little beyond your grasp, isn’t it?

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Jake September 23, 2015 at 9:44 pm

Nitrat,
Sam has his handful of haters. They will hate on you unless you agree 100$% with them.
Sam is a very mean man and has a very fat ass. Stinky too.

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Custodian September 24, 2015 at 1:36 am

Loftis is a very mean man and has a very fat ass. Stinky too. He has the brain of a roach… no education and no qualifications to be on the commission. Loftis does not have the qualifications set by law, to be on the commission. Period. And it shows.. Loftis must appoint someone with the qualifications set by law to represent him on the commission like the governor, the comptroller general do… A high school degree from Cayce sure does not qualify Loftis to sit on the commission and to deal with the big bankers of New York… and it shows… very costly to the state retirees.. Loftis is not a good custodian of money… Way above his head… Appoint someone who knows finance and is qualified to be a true custodian of retirees money.

Scott September 24, 2015 at 6:25 am

Sam Griswold, an educated man and a mature man, has taken ownership of these filthy, nasty anti-loftis statements, I want to know why.
How much has Sam Griswold been paid? Who paid him? Did the Investment Commission pay him of did Reynolds Williams pay him?
I want to know.

Sammmmm September 23, 2015 at 9:43 pm

Sam, why are you so mean? Why is your Sam Griswold ass so fat? Why do you let Reynolds Willaims make you do all the filthy work?

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nitrat September 23, 2015 at 9:47 pm

I’ll say again that irony is beyond your grasp.
But, still, if the retirement funds had been invested in Savings Bonds, they would have earned more than what they did where that commission put them.

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frank September 23, 2015 at 9:48 pm

The Commission is the worst. Absolutely the last place earner. Disgraceful.

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M326 September 23, 2015 at 10:18 pm

Unfortunately, that is demonstrably untrue!

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Sammmm September 23, 2015 at 10:23 pm

Sam Griswold,
You are the ultimate expert in lying.
I will defer to your expertise.

M326 September 23, 2015 at 10:52 pm

At least I am honest about who I am. I cannot say the same about you, Curtis.

Kyle September 23, 2015 at 10:58 pm

Sam, you have taken ownership of years of posting filth, lies and deception. Why would you post such things?

You are an educated man, a mature man.

Were you paid? Promised something? Why would you stoop so low?

Usbonds September 24, 2015 at 1:10 am

US Savings Bonds? Really… Where are you from? What planet did you fall from?

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Jake September 24, 2015 at 7:41 am

The Investment Commission is rated the worst in the country and look how they lash out at Treasurer Loftis. I suppose if I was caught, leaving $7 billion in retiree money on the table for Wall Street Investment Bankers to pick up, I would be mad too.

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ELCID September 24, 2015 at 1:57 pm

And Alan Wilson just sits on his hands, while these thieves rob our retired State workers.
He’s just a bag of worthless cow manure.

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