National Politics - 2016

Will Bernie And “The Donald” Live To See 2016?

BUCKING THE ESTABLISHMENT CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH … || By FITSNEWS || Earlier this week, our founding editor received a call from a veteran establishment “Republican” operative who was profoundly disappointed in our “fawning coverage” of Donald Trump‘s 2016 presidential campaign. “How much is he paying you?” the operative…

BUCKING THE ESTABLISHMENT CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH …

|| By FITSNEWS || Earlier this week, our founding editor received a call from a veteran establishment “Republican” operative who was profoundly disappointed in our “fawning coverage” of Donald Trump‘s 2016 presidential campaign.

“How much is he paying you?” the operative inquired angrily of Will Folks.

Um …. really?

Trump isn’t paying us.  He isn’t even running ads on our website (not that ad buys would influence our coverage).

Don’t get us wrong: We love that Trump has the utterly worthless “Republican” party and its army of establishment hacks on its heels.  We love that he has tossed the GOP’s boring script for the 2016 primary out the window.  We love that he is rolling out substantive proposals on hot button issues.  And we love that he has millions of Americans – at long last – finally paying attention to the worsening plight of this country (and the dearth of leadership in response to that plight).

All of those are good things … and a similar dynamic is at play on the Democratic side as it relates to the insurgent candidacy of independent socialist U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders.

What do we love more than any of this, though?  The forces Trump is tapping into …

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A “DISENFRANCHISED PISSED OFF REPUBLICAN”

One of our longtime friends – a Republican activist in the South Carolina Upstate (and former supporter of Wisconsin governor Scott Walker) – texted us recently after attending a Trump rally.

“I was surprised how much energy the room had,” she told us.  “He radiates positive energy.”

“He was loud, brash, and saying things we all thought but no one who represented us would ever say,” she said.

And what of the conventional candidates (all of whom are polling in single digits in early-voting South Carolina)?

“I’m tired of being a lemming in their power play,” she added, noting that former Florida governor Jeb Bush “is weak, too compromising, and too much establishment – which is why we are where we are.”

We asked her point blank: Weren’t (you) a Walker gal?

“A long time ago,” she said.  “Now I’m a disenfranchised pissed off republican who plans to vote against the (Republican National Committee), (Reince) Priebus, (Jeb) Bush, and especially (Nikki) HALEY.  F*ck them.  I’m done and consider myself an independent.”

This isn’t some Tea Party wing nut, either … this is an establishment GOP operative who has simply had enough of, well, the establishment.  Oh – and Trump’s not paying her, either.

“When you lose people like me then (you’ve) got big, big problems,” she added, referring to the party.

Indeed …

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TRUMP’S ROAD AHEAD …

Obviously Trump isn’t perfect.  Far from it.  He’s got a litany of inconsistencies which must be answered for at some point or another during this campaign – and we suspect future efforts to derail his candidacy won’t be as transparent and clumsy as the first attempt.

Can he survive the coming onslaught?

As for us, we are obviously going to continue calling him out when we disagree with him (see here and here).

Also, unlike a lot of journalists our founding editor Will Folks isn’t easily smitten (or intimidated) by star power – even when joining a gaggle of reporters on Trump’s Boeing 757.

While all of the mainstream media reporters on the plane (literally every one of them) posed for pictures with Trump, Folks demurred when offered the opportunity.

“I’m working,” he politely told The Donald, remembering the example set by the late Jim Davenport of the Associated Press.

Trump’s plane was nice, sure, but we’re going to judge the man by the substance of his proposals … and so far we like what we’ve seen.  Obviously his tax and spending plans will weigh heavily in our considerations, as will his foreign policy views.  We’re also eager to see the extent to which he embraces market-based education reforms – one of the rare areas where Bush, the establishment candidate, actually has a leg to stand on.

But beyond the issues: Can Trump and Sanders maintain?  After all, anti-establishment movements have a way of unspooling.  Losing steam.  Getting co-opted.

Remember the “Tea Party?”

Here’s what one of its members is doing now …

Trump and Sanders have galvanized opposite ends of the political spectrum by hammering away unapologetically at a simple truth: That everyday Americans are getting screwed over – and establishment politicians are doing nothing to stop it.

To the extent they continue hammering away at that truth, their respective movements will continue to grow …

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“THE WALLACE ROUTE”

The angry “Republican” operative who demanded to know how much Trump was paying us is not only a student of history – he’s been a participant in it.  He was in the arena during the turbulent 1960s – and actually worked some high-profile races as a young volunteer.

In his conversation with us, he made an eery remark …

“If all else fails, there’s still the Wallace route,” he said.

The Wallace route?

For those of you who don’t remember, George Wallace was a multi-term segregationist governor of Alabama – the guy who “stood in the schoolhouse door” to prevent blacks from integrating the University of Alabama in the early 1960s.  Wallace’s publicity stunt – undertaken nine months after he proclaimed his support for “segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever” – thrust him onto the national stage as the patron saint of angry white men.

In 1968, Wallace mounted a third party bid for president – and was, in fact, the last third party candidate to win votes in the electoral college (he carried five southern states, earning 10 million popular votes and 46 electoral votes).

Four years later, in 1972, Wallace ran for president as a Democrat – winning primaries in Florida, North Carolina and Tennessee and scoring second-place finishes in Indiana, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.  Public opinion polls at the time showed him gaining momentum and moving into position to capture the nomination of the badly-splintered party – but all that came to a halt on May 15, 1972 in Laurel, Maryland.

There, at a local shopping center, Wallace was shot five times by would-be assassin Arthur Bremer.

The next day Wallace won the Maryland primary from his hospital bed – but having been paralyzed from the waist down in the shooting (one of the bullets pierced his spinal column), his campaign was effectively over.

Is this the “Wallace route” the operative was referring to?  Either Trump gets in line … or gets a bullet?

Indeed.  In fact, the operative joked that Trump’s assassination could be pinned on “the Mexicans,” referencing a high-profile spat between The Donald and leaders of the Sinaloa Cartel.

“El Chapo did it,” he said, referring to Mexican drug lord Joaquín Guzmán Loera, who recently escaped from a maximum security Mexican prison.

Mainstream media outlets are already comparing Trump to Wallace … does this mean establishment “Republicans” have a similar fate in mind for him?  Along with an at-the-ready scapegoat?

And what of Sanders?

If the Clintonistas don’t get him, will the “Maryland Mob” call in a hit?

If you’d asked us a year ago, we’d have told you America’s two mainstream political parties would nominate Bush and Clinton for their respective nominations.  Now that apple cart has been upended by Trump and Sanders.

Other candidates have to beg supporters to attend their events.  Trump and Sanders are drawing crowds numbering in the thousands.

Can they maintain their populist insurgencies by staying true to the people they’ve inspired?

And if so … can they stay alive?

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48 comments

a face in the crowd September 11, 2015 at 11:21 am

Latest entertainment from Republicans:
God wrote the Constitution (Delay)
Dred Scott is the law of the land (Huckabee)
People here need to speak American (Palin)

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CNSYD September 11, 2015 at 11:40 am

But they can’t top any utterance from face.

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a face in the crowd September 11, 2015 at 11:41 am

Got your pom poms ready for App State?

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B. A. Barackus September 11, 2015 at 11:46 am

Face? I pity the fool!

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Trump's Accountant September 11, 2015 at 11:26 am

Oh, my bad, it looks like there was a typo. FITSNESS should be FITSNEWS. My bad, I’ll correct it right away Mr. Trump.

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Rocky Verdad September 11, 2015 at 11:42 am

On the day after the 2016 Trump appears on the Today show.

Matt Lauer – “Mr. Trump – glad your here this morning.”
Trump – “My pleasure Matt. We’ve always been friends.”
Lauer – “Donald, you ran a third party campaign and didn’t win, how do you feel.”
Trump – “Well Matt, it was a huge success, huge. We captured 22% of the vote, more than Ross Perot, and more than Teddy Roosevelt. It was a great success. And it’s just the beginning Matt. You know, it’s a movement, not just an election. In four years, with the right new young candidate to challange the stupid people in Washington, we’ll get 45 or 50%. It’s really gradifying.”
Lauer – “So what’s next Donald?”
Trump – “I’m starting my own Viagra product, called Stand Tall. It’s gonna be huge. Hard to beat it. And it’s going to be safe even if it lasts over 4 hours. We’ve got really smart people working on it right now.”

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flip September 11, 2015 at 11:51 am

Only chance democrats have is a Trump 3rd party run-which WON”T happen per my sources.

Hillary and Joe are stuck at 47% PERIOD. Neither can get 50% and the electoral map is favoring Republicans.My guess is Virginia is the KEY state as Ohio and Florida are going Republican.

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Voices In Your Head September 11, 2015 at 11:53 am

Yes, yes, Trump won’t run third party, and he’ll win the Latino vote, and he isn’t a Hillary supporter in disguise!

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Rocky Verdad September 11, 2015 at 12:20 pm

And then launch his Viagra line?

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Victorious Secret September 11, 2015 at 1:36 pm

47%, huh?

Did you see what you did there?

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Rocky Verdad September 11, 2015 at 2:15 pm

CNN polls today have Biden beating Trump by 10 and Bush by 8. Rught roo

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flip September 11, 2015 at 11:45 am

Stay strong Fits.The Trump movement is real. I will be leaving for Florida in about 3 weeks for most of the fall/winter (work/play).I hope to do all I can to move Trump forward and make sure the Republican Party implements his immigration plan.

I can tell you Trump is bringing evangelicals, the Tea Party activists,Jews and independents together in south Florida.LEGAL Hispanics are enthusiastic.Women love him.

It is interesting when I do some ‘independent’ polling with people… that evangelicals explain to me that Trump’s faith is NOT an issue with them. They believe Obama and the Democrat Party hate Christians and they would accept a strong President that just didn’t attack their faith and spiritual norms/traditions.

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How You Know He's Out Of Touch September 11, 2015 at 11:47 am

I can tell you Trump is bringing evangelicals, the Tea Party
activists,Jews and independents together in south Florida.LEGAL
Hispanics are enthusiastic.Women love him.

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Rocky Verdad September 11, 2015 at 11:56 am

90% of women are for Trump. It’s the truth.

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That's A Lot Of Women September 11, 2015 at 12:10 pm

He should ask Mitt Romney for some binders to hold all those ladies in.

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Bible Thumper September 11, 2015 at 12:45 pm

Only attractive women support Trump.

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Rocky Verdad September 11, 2015 at 1:37 pm

He’s starting his own line of viagra. “It’ll be huge I tell ya. I’m giving a rock hard endorsement to this new product. It’s as dependable as hickory.”

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Rocky Verdad September 11, 2015 at 11:51 am

When you get down there, please do me a favor. Go down to the corner of NW 42nd Avenue and NW 7th Street (just south of Miami International) and get me a cafe con leche, and then stand on that corner and holding a sign saying “deport all the illegals and their anchor babies.”

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flip September 11, 2015 at 11:53 am

I don’t visit 3rd world countries.

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Third World Trailer Park September 11, 2015 at 11:54 am

You live in Third World America though.

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Rocky Verdad September 11, 2015 at 11:56 am

Heck, you gotta drive through South Carolina to get there.

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flip September 11, 2015 at 12:03 pm

You don’t like your country or your state.Sad.

Rocky Verdad September 11, 2015 at 12:06 pm

Personally, if I had my way, I’d be moving back to Florida in a heartbeat. Who knows, maybe in another year or two.

Everybody else September 11, 2015 at 1:04 pm

What’s there to like?

flip's sober brain September 11, 2015 at 1:03 pm

You live in one, dumbass.

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FITS is pro-Democrat September 11, 2015 at 11:54 am

Trump would HATE FITSNews. Almost all FITSNews does is in aid to the destructive and failed Democrat Party.

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The Donald September 11, 2015 at 11:55 am

Someone got to see my plane. It wasn’t you, that’s for sure. No way my security guards would allow you within half a mile of my plane.

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U R not very learned, R U? September 11, 2015 at 12:01 pm

I could access to Trump, and his plane with one phone call. When a man is running for president, especially with the odds Tump faces, access is not that difficult for real journalists.

The fact that FITSNews went – and how it was presented afterward-speaks volumes about the level (or lack) of professionalism practiced here. The amateur nature of it will likely be what does in Trump. But I really don’t think he will care as long as the right president comes forth from it all. I do think Trump cares about his country and its future, which is a LOT more than you can say about Obama, Hillary, Joe, and the Democrat Party.

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The Joke That Never Stops September 11, 2015 at 12:12 pm

You could have access to Trump in one phone call? How’s that? To tell him your pizza joint is out of mushrooms?

Not experienced RU? September 11, 2015 at 12:53 pm

Your life experience must be very limited.

grandtangosuglydog September 11, 2015 at 12:37 pm

“Real journalists..” LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL what did you bump into a newspaper stand…LOLOLOL real journalist….HAHAHA yeah right..your blog failed remember, i knwo another in the long line of failures your life has been but you by no means of the definition are a “journalist”

U R in a very small world September 11, 2015 at 12:52 pm

If you knew even a fraction of the truth…I bet you’d shit all over yourself.

You are up to your neck in myths…and act as if reality is a big deal. You must have a very low station in life if you think someone would lie about that.

Rocky Verdad September 11, 2015 at 1:34 pm

Hurray – it’s Friday and Tango started with shitting all over ones self. Shitter day for Tango. Hurray.

Bitch is high as fuck September 11, 2015 at 1:02 pm

Does flip take magic mushrooms?
Oh snap, he’s probably on that flakka shit people are bugging out on.

flip September 11, 2015 at 11:58 am

I would agree that Fits is trying to destroy the Republican Party-HOWEVER my guess is Fits is scared shit less of Trump and won’t fuck with him.If that happens we can fire up SCPD again. :)

I don’t think he Will appreciate Will comparing his campaign to a communist like Bernie Sanders. :)

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grandtangosuglydog September 11, 2015 at 12:36 pm

You really are the stupidest asshole (we know you and all the alias names, GT etc the same loser) and you living in Florida..priceless..!! Another angry fat old white guy with no balls and screams all day about how shitty your miserable life is..Then we find you live in Florida (Hells waiting room) and it all makes sense.

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U implode when reality BITES! September 11, 2015 at 12:49 pm

What is hilarious, is when you ignorant fucks find out you’re wrong. Not wrong about one thing, wrong about it all.

You are so mired in delusion and the myths your puppet masters feed you…you have a tendency to meltdown when reality manifests. Dumbasses – and you’re one of the biggest- don’t deal w/ truth well.

Also: You elected Obama, and swear he’s a swell guy….How FUCKING ignorant must you be, to do that?

SCBlue September 11, 2015 at 12:57 pm

flip caught him in a lie yesterday and he is unhinged over it!:

grandtangosuglydog flip • a day ago

Yeah a 4.2 unemployment rate, well below the national avg, Marijuana use among teens is actually down, Denver has the fastest rising home prices in the nation and they have a tax surplus so yeah im sure they hate it.1

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flip grandtangosuglydog • a day ago

Down among teens you fucking lowlife liar????You are nothing but a POS-worthless human being….

According to a recent federal survey, marijuana use among Coloradans age 12 and over went up slightly between 2011 and 2013, to 12.7% from 10.4%.

“This is exactly what we were worried about,” said Kevin Sabet, director of the drug policy institute at the University of Florida, and co-founder of a group, Smart Approaches to Marijuana, that opposes legalization.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/in

Money is Power September 11, 2015 at 2:51 pm

Trump could easily crush this website, yes. Trump could easily destroy Haley and even Hugh Leatherprick, too.

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flip's dreamworld September 11, 2015 at 12:59 pm

The fantasy life of this guy. lol
He is very committed to it, I’ll give him that.

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Trump BASHES you too, liberal September 11, 2015 at 11:52 am

You run a photo of Socialist-Democrat Bernie Sanders as a pretense to Bash the establishment GOP…and claim kinship with Trump’s outsider, “Rage Against the Machine” campaign…

But let’s be honest, if FITSNews has ANY Republican in it, it’s the moderate/establishment/libertarian brand. You are part of the MACHINE Trumps is slaying.

FITSNews launched itself in a treatise against the Bush strategy used to “gut” moderate/libertarian/establishment John McCain…

So if you must BASH, Start with FITSNews. You are as big a part of the tone-deaf, power-hungry, selfish and out-of-touch Elite-archy as the establishment GOP. Trump hates sycophants like you.

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Same 'ol Same 'ol September 11, 2015 at 11:56 am

Anyone who challenges the establishment should have the resources to protect themselves, otherwise, get out while you can. The “big boys” don’t mess around.

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Bible Thumper September 11, 2015 at 1:05 pm

September 11 2015

Also, unlike a lot of journalists our founding editor Will Folks isn’t easily smitten (or intimidated) by star power – even when joining a gaggle of reporters on Trump’s Boeing 757.

While all of the mainstream media reporters on the plane (literally every one of them) posed for pictures with Trump, Folks demurred when offered the opportunity.

“I’m working,” he politely told The Donald, remembering the example set by the late Jim Davenport of the Associated Press.

What fantasy world is Will Folks living in? Does anyone believe a word of this after,his recent bromance with T-Rav, even appearing on his reality show? Will would drop every thing if Trump offered an appearance on a revived “Apprentice”.

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Victorious Secret September 11, 2015 at 1:35 pm

Indeed. It is very hard to synthesize the “Trump” comment when you also look at the Southern Charm fiasco.

Need I also mention that Will reminds us of his “brief cameo” with almost every opportunity he can?

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Bible Thumper September 11, 2015 at 1:58 pm

Don’t you have to be well known to appear as a Cameo? Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say it was a bit part?

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Bible Thumper September 11, 2015 at 1:19 pm

“THE WALLACE ROUTE

Mainstream media outlets are already comparing Trump to Wallace … does this mean establishment “Republicans” have a similar fate in mind for him?  Along with an at-the-ready scapegoat?

That is the most idiotic nonsense I’ve ever seen on this site. Arthur Bremer was a social misfit seeking fame.

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erneba September 11, 2015 at 3:47 pm

The disenchantment abounds, pushing the established politicians to the side of the political road. I think the Trump candidacy has staying power for no other reason than people are tired if the Republican establishment. They have become homogenized in the Democrats into what is now recognized as the ‘ruling’ establishment with people like the Clinton’s and the Bush’s leading the parade.

It is not quite a universal movement yet, the Democrats have been slow to show their disdain for the Clinton’s the way the Bush’s are being turned away by the Republicans. This next election is going to be about ‘new blood,’ same-o same-o ain’t gonna cut it.

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