RE: ANCHOR BABY DEBATE: THE REAL ISSUE
Dear Editor,
I hate to say it but you couldn’t be more wrong on the immigration issue. First and foremost, labor is just another market. We believe in free markets because prices tend to be a far better indicator for determining the proper amount of production and consumption. Why would a bunch of politicians know the appropriate amount people to let in or out?
There are also a great deal of unforeseen consequences of government intrusion into the labor markets including changing the general pattern of migration. Most of the big immigration from Mexico was seasonal before we really started enforcing the border. This has forced workers who used to just come for harvesting season to stay for the entire year. Harvesting in and of itself is difficult work which requires many hours of working outdoors in the hottest months of the year. Employers should be free to choose their laborers and clearly Mexican immigrants are more eager than Americans for work.
IZA has done incredible work studying labor markets and have come to the following conclusions:
– Immigrants fill labor gaps
– Immigrants don’t compete for the same jobs as native born Americans
– Immigrants complement native born labor
– The synergy increases production therefore increases wages for all parties
– Labor Markets are extremely adaptable for eager parties.
Secondly immigrants are actually less likely to produce less violent crime than native born Americans. Most of the studies that show immigrants produce more crime include crossing the border as a crime in and of itself which is true but doesn’t really affect anyone. Where it matters, in violent crime, native born Americans are eight times more likely to commit a violent crime than an immigrant. Eight damn times more likely!
Cato has a great deal more research on the subject, which you can read here.
Lastly, a border fence is the dumbest way possible for government to fix a problem it created. Penn Jillette actually had immigrants build him a border fence and then had the same immigrants go under, through, and over the fence to show just how pointless it was. The video is really funny to watch but if you want to skip ahead to the fence go to the 3:20 mark …
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In conclusion, immigration helps the economy, raises wages, and produces less crime but if all that isn’t enough for you think about how terrible a world without guacamole would be
Colin Ross
Atlanta, Georgia
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86 comments
Thank you for printing my letter.
Why do facts hate Republicans and their attempted policies?
Nevermind the fact that immigration is actually down since the mid-2000s. The republican candidates can keep going on about the non-existent immigration ‘problem’ during their primaries, then look like even more complete buffoons when it comes to the debates during the general election.
Down? DOWN???? … Sheeshus, you are fucked up in the head!!!!
Darn facts just won’t give you dumdass liars a break. Try again…
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/16/with-fewer-new-arrivals-census-lowers-hispanic-population-projections-2/
Suck a dick, dick. I own you now.
That butthurt must really sting? Those gosh darned facts will do it to you every time.
Obliterating liberals and the Democrat Party, plowing you asunder, is ALL that matters.
Do that and we can solve all of the problems destroying our country. If we do not conquer you, we’re doomed to swirl down the toilet of Third-World Status.
All the other chatter – regarding race, homosexuals, women, immigration – is meaningless Bullshit, proffered by the liberals and its media, and meant to keep the only important goal hidden.
Flush the Democrat party. Obama, and what he has done to us, has made that more apparent, than ever. take them out of power. Nothing else matters.
You type a mean game. Too bad that’s all you’re capable of. The last gasp of the angry white man…
Colin Ross ( the person who penned this letter) is so full of shit, his argument and facts are not even worthy of a reply … HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Because you have no counter argument that you can back up with facts. As usual.
No .. because you are one sick mother fucker. Want to meet me in person so I can teach you a lesson???? Come on you pussy ass dip shit asswipe … Lets meet in person so I can take you out .. .hahahahahahaahahahahah!!!!
Me knocking you on your old ass still won’t make anything you’ve typed true. I’ll just continue to use verifiable facts to slap the shit out of you. It’s so much easier.
Pussy Ass coward … You are now my bitch boy! …. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Sorry. Not gay. Try GrandTango. He loves that stuff. Now prance along…
Because you have the real facts, just want to keep them hidden – right?
Fact is they are here ILLEGALLY and need to leave.Only issue on the table.
When they leave and then get in line then they will have a clear path to citizenship-in 100 years! :)
THen deport them. Call me when you’re finished so I can check.
ATTENTION ALL BUSINESSES WHO HIRE AND/OR CONTRACT OR SUB-CONTRACT WITH ILLEGAL ALIENS ….. You are going to be hunted down and prosecuted. We are coming to get you soon (echo echo echo) …. hahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahaaa!!!!!
Translation: I won’t do shit, but type nonsense while collecting my check from the government.
Translation … I am from the government and we now have your ISP and know your real name and home address.
See how easy it was to bait you? Stand by … you are being scheduled with our warrants division.
Are you 11 yes old?
So where am I? Jakarta…..Moscow…..Melbourne……Denver…..NYC…..
All of the above, dipshit. At least, according to my IP address. Learn to Internet, fuckhead.
We need a border fence to keep these Cubans out. They just walk across the border.
And the Chinese and their anchor babies. We need a wall across the Pacific Ocean that the marine life will pay for.
And Canada too. Those damned French speakers.
Several years ago, I worked with a few Hispanic guys who sailed to Vancover and came over the border into Washington State. I was like “Damn, you definitely wanted to be here. You earned that shit”. Great guys, by the way.
Think about it. You leave your home, you travel to a country where you probably don’t speak the language, get a job, start a new life. Takes some pretty big balls. Most of the complainers won’t even move from Schitzville to Craptown to do that.
You r a good person
I dunno dude, I sort of indirectly insulted Marines earlier on a post you made to the Colonel.
Trust, Marine us just a attitude.
Amen. I was pretty impressed they made it all the way to Myrtle Beach via that insane route. That’s the type of people I want as Americans. Instead of fat, lazy rednecks who sit online all day bitching about brown people.
UHH-RAH, more people as you are needed.
…and those Ekimos AKA Snow-Mexicans
Man, shared a table with two in Quebec a couple years ago, nice ladies, super ugly.
That’s actually true. They currently come via Mexico most often.
We Need a few C-130 Gun Ships to fly over California and the Border.
When do you shoot them, before or after they cross the line. There’s huge legal implications there.
Al this debate is meaningless. Wall,NO amnesty OR path to citizenship.
Done deal.Welcome aboard Mr.Trump.
Bye Bye Jeb and Bye Bye illegals….
Doesn’t matter if they ALL stay. No amnesty-no path to citizenship-NOOOO VOTE!!!
I think napalm will help along the border. Burn up all of that drug cartel shit, ya know what I am saying?
Since the whole immigration ‘problem’ has been shown to be a sham, what will you guys whine about now?
How long have you worked for the Mexican Drug Cartel? Do you haul drugs up I-95?
Still no facts to back anything you say up, I see. Nothing new here.
Federal and state drug possession laws make it a crime to willfully possess illegal controlled substances such as marijuana, methamphetamine, cocaine, LSD, “club drugs,” and heroin. These laws also criminalize the possession of “precursor” chemicals used in drug cultivation and manufacturing, as well as certain accessories related to drug use. Drug possession laws vary according to drug type, amount, and geographic area of the offense. Possession of small quantities may be deemed “simple” possession, while possession of large amounts may result in a charge of presumed “possession with intent to distribute.”
Drug cartels don’t use I-95 much anymore. Too much risk. They use Arizona.
Developing Story …. Nikki Haley being put under pressure to enforce SC not long ago made illegal alien law. Private anti-illegal groups are calling for construction companies doing business in South Carolina to be prosecuted for hiring illegal aliens as sub contractors and scamming on workman’s comp insurance premiums, etc. Many new schools are being constructed and renovated across the state by illegal employment and contracting means – including residential construction. Due to such, the State of South Carolina is loosing out on tens of millions in tax revenue from the upswing in new construction. Stay tuned as this story develops.
Developing in your imagination maybe…
I doubt that. For 293 weeks the year over year number of unemployment claim recipients has declined. The recession high was 109,672. It is now 18,709. The number of payroll withholdings is still 3,056 below the all time peak of 1,866,022. The unemployment rate of the insured labor force is currently 1.00%. Before Haley took office, it has never been that low. At the peek of the recession, it was 5.88%.
http://www.oui.doleta.gov/unemploy/wkclaims/report.asp
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE, that some of these Pro Illegal posters on this thread are tied into illegal drug smuggling operations and have connections to the Mexican Drug Cartels.
Damn, you are terribly desperate. You should be glad that there isn’t an immigration problem.
So hook nose is baby marker, as trump says. How did the parents of Nikki get here ? Anyone have a answer ?
Oh shit! Just realized my mother-n-law is an Irish anchor baby. Trump might be on to something…
Very possible she may be deported, per trump.
Like I said, Trump might be on to something….
Could be
You idiots completely miss the point. Trump doesn’t want to stop all anchor babies. Only the babies of illegal immigrants. If your grandma was here legally then your mama is a legal anchor baby (American Citizen)
May be the ones that need help, eh ?
You assumed they were legal because they were white? Bless your little heart, Booger.
Trump is on something “crack”.
Forget those other fools…
#DeezNuts2016
Can’t wait to see Trump thump.
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“400,000 children born to illegals each year…given automatic citizenship”
“Mexican Cartels run AZ desert…70 miles within border”
“America doesn’t have operational control over US Territory”
Now I understand, “take our country back…”
Fact check THIS-
It’s funny how dump, under-educated white people, are upset because they cannot compete with third-world educated illegal immigrants. Says a lot more about the failure of the person complaining, and the fortitude and ability of the undocumented immigrant. You betcha!!!!!!
If you want to attack LEGAL,REAL Americans then it is only fair to ask why you bring your NON citizen family members into this country and LEECH off the taxpayers?
Was your mother in-law unable to compete or pay her bills in her country of citizenship so you bring her to America and let her ride the perpetual welfare train?
Until we stop families like yours from abusing the loopholes in our laws this country is going to hell.
So the next time you question a REAL Americans ‘fortitude’-just recall your wife and her mother are not part of the ‘fabric’ of this country that made it great and enabled the freeloaders to hate this country so freely.
Except my household is all citizens except our Granny who is a legal resident alien, sponsored, with a valid Green Card. Guess you don’t have those in Ohio – right Flip? Bet there ain’t none in Cleveland, or Toledo. The Romanian or Polish grandma that came to live with the kids after the war, or maybe when grandpa died. Sure…… I stand by my comment – the only one’s bitching about undocumented immigrants are the ones who can’t compete with them. And that sir, is pretty damned sorry. How about a truce, you stop throwing my family around in this argument, and I’ll stop calling you a dumb-ass redneck.
You realize a real man wouldn’t insult another man’s wife. Stop showing your hate filled heart. We’ll pray for you, not that it will do much good.
‘real’ man? I didn’t have to go to fucking filthy 3rd world country to find a bride and have a family and then have to put the family on the public dole when I finally got em all here? Call me a damn ‘Redneck’, Boy. In fact my momma crossed the Ohio River on the back of a wagon! :)
Have at it Rocky.You sure like to judge others but DAMN if anybody calls you out for your hypocrisy on subjects or issues.
Carry on.
Odd, because you know what – I met my wife here in the United States. In fact, see was working for a fortune 500 company at the time. And we’ve never, ever, accepted public assistance. We donate weekly to the poor, including food to the food bank, food to the homeless kitchen, and food and money to our local Catholic church. I belong to my local chapter of a global volunteer organization, volunteer time and efforts to clean highways, the beach, work with youngsters involved in Youth Study Exchange. My kids donate volunteer hours at school, church and other groups. Yet, you seem to relish in insulting me and my family – as if you’re so much better than we are. And since you’re the one who seems so intent on insulting my wife and chidren, and my family, go foook yourself. You love to dish it out Flip, but when you cross the line and get called on it, you’re just a big name calling pussy. At least if I cross the line and get called on it I have the decency to look at what I said and apologize. But not you!!!! You have to go insult the defenseless. And I stand by what I said – I’d rather know ten people willing to come here and start a new than one under-educted asshole who thinks he’s entitled to something because he’s too stupid and under-skilled to compete against an undocumented immigrant. This is America. You ain’t entitled to shit here. You’re entitled to what you earn. Even the foookin undocumented immigrants understand that.
Oh, and I find it interesting that the very woman you want to insult, has an advanced degree she paid cash for, graduated from one of the leading university affiliations in the world, and has no problems finding high paying employment. Humph!!! Makes you think, don’t it.
Yeah, but for some reason YOU have trouble saving $10,000? She must really love you, to hang with such a deadbeat. Do you live beyond your means? New Jersey is a prime example of an overtaxed and overburdened welfare state. It must have been hard to leave your peeps.
Are you waiting or the government to pay off your student loan?
Nope – paid it off. Another fail on your part to insult. Guess your life is pretty empty. Ta ta.
Just going by all your current and prior posts. You seem to be enamored by all things progressive and yet you left New Jersey: big progressive, bankrupt, corrupt, welfare state and democrat stronghold…maybe for more economic opportunity? It will be easier to save that $10K without all those NJ state, municipal, and real estate taxes, eh?
Illegal is illegal. Rule of Law not Rule of Men. This is common sense.
Ever freeze your ass off on Route 80? As for savings, that was then with a young-un in day care. And that didn’t include 401K and IRA accounts. Was talking cash on hand. But that’s much better now, and seriously, thank you for caring.
It’s not hard to figure it out.
What is a real legal American? One that killed all of the natives that were here before us ?
It’s fun and games until you realize the bs SC created. Republicans are just racist white people. Good luck on 2016,
Check out the Patel motels, they wanted my wife to work for free,
In a free labor market, your wife would have the choice of working for free or not. Bet she works for you free.
As a stupid person as you are, you are
From what trump says, has in mind, NIKKI Is a illegal how is she our governor?
All patels at every Hotel, Motel and convienice store should be investigated.
Check the Patel operations .
Sorry Chumps … But Trump is right. And he has 100 of lawyers and several law professors on his side about it …..
Senator Jacob Howard, [the author of the citizenship clause] of the Fourteenth Amendment –. He defined who would fall within the ‘jurisdiction of the United States.’
“‘Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is, by virtue of natural law and national law, a citizen of the United States. This will NOT, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great issue in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.”
Senator Lyman Trumbull, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee a supporter of the Fourteenth Amendment, remarked on May 30, 1866, that the jurisdiction clause includes those ‘not owing allegiance to anybody else … It’s only those persons who come completely within our jurisdiction, who are subject to our laws, that we think of making citizens; and there can be no objection to the proposition that such persons should be citizens.’
The Civil Rights Act of 1866 defined citizens of the United States as ‘all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed.’ ‘Not subject to any foreign power.’
So in other words, if you are in the USA illegally or not and you are not a citizen of the United States, and you give birth to child while in the USA as a citizen from another country, your child is not automatically a US Citizen in anyway shape or form.
These words from the legislation with respect to the 14th Amendment on citizenship can be found in the Library of Congress.
Trump is absolutely correct. There is no legal right for children born in the USA to an illegal or illegals to be in the USA … They are NOT automatic US Citizens …. There is no grounds …. The spirit and meaning of the 14th Amendment is clear by those who wrote the wording into the US Constitution. The anchor baby idea is totally frivolous bullshit.
So what you are saying is Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal are not a citizen of the US? Neither of their parents were US citizens when they were born. In fact Jindal’s parents were not even permanent legal residents when he was born. That makes him by definition an anchor baby. Neither has applied for citizenship? Are they eligible to be President?
What about Nikki? Her parents were not citizens when she was born, right. That means she is not a Citizen. She is an illegal alien. Can we deport her? Is Nikki an anchor baby?