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National Confederate Flag Survey … Assuming You Still Care

PARTISAN DIVIDE ECLIPSES RACIAL DIVIDE … || By FITSNEWS || The debate over the Confederate flag in South Carolina is over … for now.  But as we’ve noted, the fallout from the banner’s furling (which we supported, incidentally) has only just begun. The issue will clearly play a role in the…

PARTISAN DIVIDE ECLIPSES RACIAL DIVIDE …

|| By FITSNEWS || The debate over the Confederate flag in South Carolina is over … for now.  But as we’ve noted, the fallout from the banner’s furling (which we supported, incidentally) has only just begun.

The issue will clearly play a role in the 2016 legislative primary elections next spring … and it could conceivably still crop up in the 2016 “First in the South” presidential primary.

So … where is America on this issue?

According to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in the aftermath of the flag’s removal from the grounds of the S.C. State House last month, 57 percent of Americans supported the state’s decision.  Thirty-four percent opposed.

That’s an informed reaction, too, as 89 percent of the public had heard about the debate – including 64 percent who said they heard “a lot” about it.

Count us in that latter group … although you’d have to email S.C. governor Nikki Haley to ask her if she’s heard a lot about the issue.

Or, maybe not … 

Anyway, within Pew’s overall numbers on the flag is a partisan divide which actually eclipses the racial gap on this issue.  To wit: Seventy-four percent of Democrats supported the flag’s removal, compared to 19 percent who thought it was the wrong decision.  On the GOP side only 43 percent supported the flag coming down compared to 49 percent who thought it was the wrong decision.

By contrast, 56 percent of whites said lowering the flag was the right decision compared to 38 percent who said it was the wrong call.  Among blacks, the split was 76 percent in support of the flag coming down and only 12 percent opposed.

Interesting …

And yes, the whole “heritage versus hate” issue remains.

When asked an open-ended question about their feelings on South Carolina’s decision, about a third (36 percent) of those who view removing the flag as the right decision cite the flag’s association with racism, hatred or slavery, while 20 percent say the flag is offensive or divisive. Among those who say the decision to remove the flag was wrong, most (54 percent) mention the flag’s historical significance, while 27 percent volunteer that it is a misunderstood symbol (including 20% who say that it is wrongly cast as a symbol of hatred, racism or slavery) .

No shocker there …

We expect there to be a flood of statewide (and district-specific) polling in South Carolina in the months to come on this issue … and to the extent that data is provided to us, we’ll share it with you.

For those of you keeping score at home, Pew’s survey was conducted from July 14-20, 2015.  It included a national sample of 2,002 adults, 18 years of age or older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia.  The margin of error of the survey is plus or minus 2.5 percentage points.

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32 comments

I hate lawn jockeys August 5, 2015 at 3:12 pm

I like the Colonel’s idea of flying the Bonnie Blue.

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Rocky Verdad August 5, 2015 at 3:22 pm

Bullcrap. It’s down, keep it down. If you want to fly that on the State House grounds for “heritage” I want a mock “lynching” hanging from a tree on the State House lawn to honor our heritage.

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I hate lawn jockeys August 5, 2015 at 3:26 pm

But I thought the Confederate Flag was the symbol of racism? Is it both the Bonnie Blue and the Confederate Flag? All things Confederate?

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Rocky Verdad August 5, 2015 at 3:49 pm

No, I’m all for it. I just want to make sure we have a dead african american hanging from a rope so we can keep in tune with our heritiage.

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I hate lawn jockeys August 5, 2015 at 3:53 pm

Oh come on now, you’re obviously bitter. Maybe you shouldn’t live in the South.

flip August 5, 2015 at 3:59 pm

For a guy whose family are really not TRUE Americans he sure does have strong opinions, doesn’t he? (his family is not from America)

I guess NON citizens in your household on the public dole entitles you to hate southerners.

flip August 5, 2015 at 4:26 pm

Just to be clear though, I hate America and Americans because they don’t always agree with me. LMAO!!!

SCBlues August 6, 2015 at 6:10 am

LOL

Heritage Not Hate August 5, 2015 at 4:26 pm

“We don’t hate blacks, we just want to celebrate those who died lynching them!”

tickets are easy to buy August 5, 2015 at 5:09 pm

You could always return home to Africa. It would be interesting to see how it works out for you since you hate the USA so much.

Eric August 5, 2015 at 3:28 pm

Only 57% agree to take the flag down. Wow…to hear the media tell it, I would have thought it would have been closer to 90%.

#ambivalence matters
#media big mouths matter more

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43% of the Country August 5, 2015 at 4:25 pm

43% of the country still dragging their knuckles, what a shame.

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Mic August 5, 2015 at 5:55 pm

In your opinion.

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davis mcclam August 5, 2015 at 3:31 pm

the only opinion that matters are those of taxpaying South Carolinians.

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SCV August 5, 2015 at 3:37 pm

I like Mike Pitts idea of the flag of the 2nd South Carolina. Listen up legislators, you might be able to save your ass yet.

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Ding Dong The Flag Is Down August 5, 2015 at 4:23 pm

They are going to make a display case for the flag that was taken down from the State House.

I don’t know why they need a display case for a doormat.

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KKKurtis August 5, 2015 at 7:33 pm

Did anyone survey Curtis Loftis for his thoughts on the Confederate Flag? I haven’t seen anything since his racist outburst when he was reporting from the KKK rally on twitter a couple weeks ago. Not sure we ever got his opinion on the matter.

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Daniel August 5, 2015 at 9:49 pm

Loftis has stated that he not only supported bringing the flag down but worked hard to bring that about.

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Twitter August 5, 2015 at 10:08 pm

I thought he said:
@treasurerloftis “I am watching back youths abuse police and white people. Randomly. It’s disgusting. #sctweets #scnews #SCPol” – 07/08/2015, 4:43 PM

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Laurel Crest August 5, 2015 at 10:09 pm

What in the living fuck does a treasurer do to bring down a flag?! Fuck off Curtis!

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Kim August 6, 2015 at 7:25 am

Daniel, Daniel Daniel,

I heard your gay vacation with your boyfriend went well, especially since you specifically went to a country that has the legal consent to gay sex at age 14! Wow, talk about having fun with the boys!

Oh well, hope you played safe. Gay unprotected sex, especially with the local boys can be unsafe. And you can’t count on 14 year olds to be safe. Boys that young are just not well formed enough to make those kinds of decisions.

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Ellen August 6, 2015 at 7:31 am

Why does Pete Hegseth at the Concerned Veterans for America allow Daniel Brennan, an openly gay man with no military service, to constantly harass our state Treasurer. Brennan tweets and post on his Facebook page, using his own name, negative comments about the Treasurer, Donald Trump, and Nikki Haley and possibly others.

Why were qualified veterans passed over so Brennan, and openly gay man with no military service, could take a high paying job with lots of benefits and travel?

Veterans are angry and they should be more open. We don’t a person of Brennan’s moral fiber speaking for the honest, hard working, red-blooded veterans of SC.

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Nelle August 6, 2015 at 7:49 am

Why do the citizens of South Carolina allow Curtis Loftis, a vile gay man with sexual diseases, to constantly harass retirees, state employees and his former staff? Loftis tweets and post[s] on his Facebook page, using his own name, negative comments about black youth, Barack Obama and Nikki Haley (all minorities) and many others.

Why were qualified financial people passed over so Loftis, a gay man with no investment background, could take a once-prestigious job with tons of benefits and travel?

Taxpayers are angry and they should be more open. We don’t [need] a personal of Loftis’ moral fiber and intellectual capacity speaking for the honest, hard working, red-blooded citizens of SC.

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ED August 6, 2015 at 2:13 pm

Daniel, don’t you have a job? Why doesn’t Pete Hegseth at Concerned Citizens for America make you work?

Marko August 6, 2015 at 7:21 am

Oh God, more of Gay Daniel Brennan’s postings about Loftis.

Little gay boy, get over it. I heard you were fired for playing on gay site Grindr all day instead of doing your work. So you and Sam Griswold and your fellow travelers just need to accept your fate and move on.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt August 5, 2015 at 8:08 pm

Sooo…the GOP is statistically racist. Duh. We already knew that.

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thinkmore August 6, 2015 at 9:20 am

Sooo…Dems are statistically ready to throw anyone in the gutter who disagrees with them. Duh. We already knew that.

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Lone Ranger August 5, 2015 at 8:48 pm

Stay tuned to Dimwit FITS for more Peeuuu “research” which
will rock you head-to-feet

Like why the few TAXPAYING Columbians want more of T-Bone’s
lawsuits—it’s so neat

And why the Bull Street Titanic is so financially strong Ben’s
vacationing in Jamaica now

And before Diamond Jim goes to federal prison—you’ll let him
steal the milk and the cow

And how you want I-Lie-To-Conservatives-Joe Wilson and
Back-Stab-‘Em-Haley to succeed

In further savaging the valor of Confederate patriots
because FITS says there’s a need

And how that long Tea Train is in the left lane rushing to
re-elect such self-serving goats

Because they just can’t bear to not knee-jerk for their own gain
as they cut your throats !!!

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Bad Redneck Poetry August 6, 2015 at 8:27 am

That awkward moment where you realize the guy upvoted himself.

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Lone Ranger August 6, 2015 at 6:27 pm

Bad Redneck was a socialist wreck–drinking in the Vista with Will
Three DUIs and lies about sleeping with Haley–no credibility still !!!

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Comrade1917 August 6, 2015 at 6:49 am

South Carolina – forced to suck yankee cock since 1865.

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