Emily Conrad: “Third World Solutions” For South Carolina?
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The competition for outhouse construction is *brutal*!
Modern outhouses are made from fiberglass. Most likely imported from China. I’m not sure they would be building them here. Filling them but not building them.
Most porta johns are made here, Canada or oddly enough in Brazil.
If there is a shortage — weeel, you can find plenty in the state and national parks!
Been a while since I have had to use one.
ExLax and a few other OTC items can help with that problem.
More brutal than I had even imagined!
No Emily ALL of us have not heard SC is a 3rd world country? SC is thought of as God’s country-beautiful beaches,mountains and a cultural base of arts,music and festivals.
Way it works Emily is somebody get an education,works hard and achieves. I realize that is hard for socialists like you to understand that have been brainwashed at universities but is the way it is.
Comparing the economy of SC with Kenya where even the pResidents family lives in squalor and filth and a corrupt country like Peru, is insane.
That you Rocky?
Have you ever been to Allendale County?
I have. Add that to the poor counties with third world conditions.
My wife grew up in the third world albeit in a wealthy family nestled in a first-world set of neighborhoods etc. Her and her Mom have identified the following areas as very closely resembling third world areas in their home country – US17 from I95 to Charleston, US 321 from Hardeville to Swansea, the area bounded by Marion to Florence to Kingstree, and US 176 from Goose Creek to Columbia. Haven’t been up to Barnwell in a long time, though I doubt it’s any less third world than it used to be. Now, to the degree – I’ve witnessed some serious poverty in South America (including Brazil) that is far worse that what you see in SC. But that was the extreme fringe. The average third world poverty is about the same as those areas. The difference is, in most third world countries, the government is working to find a way to bring the standard of living up, typically through a mix of tax incentives for increased commercial business (i.e. jobs) and infrastructure projects. And all are ardent about improved education. Here in SC – I see NONE of that. These areas are left to fester.
Most of the persons whom the government defines as “in poverty” are not poor in any ordinary sense of the term. The overwhelming majority of the poor have air conditioning, cable TV, and a host of other modern amenities. They are well housed, have an adequate and reasonably steady supply of food, and have met their other basic needs, including medical care. Some poor Americans do experience significant hardships, including temporary food shortages or inadequate housing, but these individuals are a minority.
Sorry Rocky.Even the poor in this country live better than ANYONE in a third world country.
Well Flip, I’d encourage you to take a drive down from I-26 to I-95 in the real SC, through towns like Estill, and Luray, and Scotia – and I can tell you you’ll find small shacks without air conditioning, or cable TV. For a steady supply of food, OK, though until recently, on medical care, it’s been spotty. Point is, near third world is pretty sorry, and the worst part is, nothing at the State level is being done about it. Hasnt for a long time. I’ve got 30 years time study of driving up 321 or out US17, and I can tell you, that over that timeline – conditions have gotten worse – steadily.
Mande, Taylor, Liz, or Amy please come save us from Emily.
Thanks in Advance
Emily is hotter. Haven;t seen the chestal area yet, so my money is on Taylor for that win.
Ok I saw the twitter feed, I think I rescind some of that.
Just like 99% of everyone in her age bracket, she seems to be trying to impress someone.
Her blatherings probably warm the hearts of Taylor and Mia.
Emily is just depressing. At least Taylor is funny sometimes and Mia is usually interesting even if she is wrong.
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Nicely written article Emily. The facts may upset some but they’re still the facts. SC has a long way to go to catch up with the rest of the country in term of infant mortality, education, income & quality of life.
Speak for yourself.
I’ll take my quality of life anyday over about 95% of the rest of the country (and over anyone that lives in Columbia). Its warm most of the year, I don’t live in a ghetto, and I’m 6 miles from the ocean.
South Carolina ain’t that bad, I finally got running water and an internet connection to my hut.
“Having started the Civil War, South Carolina”
lol, nothing controversial about that statement. Nope.
You noticed that too…
In the first place it is not called the Civil War.
In my days of high school, you would change that term or receive a 1 point deduction in your daily grade.
The preferred term was, and still is, War Between the States.
North Augusta Senior High School 1967-1969.
‘…..Having started the Civil War, South Carolina…..”
As a communications professional it would seem you would want to build your arguments on something solid such as rock rather than falling off your toad stool into a pile of fucking toad shit
Really – South Carolina started the Civil War all by itself – Really. Just South Carolina, no one else.
South Carolina did not start the War of Northern Aggression – Period
Once you get that fact in your pea brain post again. Otherwise shut the hyperbole up
“your pea brain post”
Dude, why you have to go there?
You are misinformed …my great, great grandfather (Wade Hampton Gibbes) started the Civil War. He fired the very first mortar shell at Ft Sumter. He was from Columbia SC and definitely not from the North. I have always wondered where the term “war of northern aggression” originated.
But Mayor Riley said, “Charleston is no longer too poor to paint or too proud to whitewash”. He failed to mention all the damn yankees that now live below Broad. What gentrification?
I dare say, sir, that the majority south of Broad remain, and will always be, the true families of Southern heritage and previliage.
Lulz…until the yankees come buy them out.
Haven’t been down there recently, have you?
You speak of “gentrification” like there is a gun at the head of the people moving out. They are getting bought out and taking the money and running. If they rent–they know the deal before signing the contract.
Emily Conrad hit the nail on the head. For the less educated she might be exaggerating facts; however she presented true numbers and valid statistics, in a hyperbolic and passionate manner and with the ardor of one who loves the land.
The problems I find in this beautiful corner of the world are complacency, expecting help “from above” and above all, education. The Carolinians are the most self-reliant and creative American, I ever met. But, perhaps we should disrobe ourselves from past delusions of the glories, put an end in the Civil War issues, realize that we are a small State, focus on our “quality as a people” and not quantities as Texans and Californians often do. Acceptance of different people, though growing, is also a must.
Education acceptance and a pinch of realist humility, I believe, will put us in the First World, in the very top, for “quality” is already here:
Now, we just need polish it with knowledge and education.
I wish I had a nickel for every backyard philosopher that claimed the solution to all our woes was “education”. George Carlin had it right.
I know a lot of “uneducated” people running around with a shit load of money. You know what they all have in common? They work their asses off.
Now granted, if you don’t want to work and still make a lot you can get elected, but thankfully I don’t run with cockroaches.
+ 1,000
How did you get on Grand Tango’s property to take that picture of his house without being shot?
Obama took his brothers tent while he was in Kenya and traded an old ‘prayer rug’ with the natives for this estate.
Dear Ms. Conrad
I live in the Spartanburg area myself and did some technical work at the rail yard right by Una so I know the area pretty well
Granted, it ain’t Beverly Hills but I can tell you this much……
I’ll take the worst place in Una and put it up against some of the hovels (or just plain shit piles that people were living on) I saw in Pakistan.
Since you work for an “international textile firm” perhaps you’ve had the pleasure of visiting Pakistan yourself (since they are heavily involved in textiles).
I was just thinking about something…
I know the Una area fairly well so why in the hell would you cut through Una to get to downtown Spartanburg or wherever your “international textile firm” is in Spartanburg proper? Asheville Highway or I-585 makes a lot more sense
Una ain’t a “cut-through” for anywhere except to maybe the area by Spartanburg Methodist College or the back side of the Westgate area unless you are going to Gibbs International on US 29………….
SC is the Republican Party’s dream for every state. Mostly poor, dumb people, working for low wages. That is the plan for competing with Mexico.
Good editorial.
A few additional problems:
SC doesn’t learn anything from anyone . . . ever.
It’s ruling class especially is Third Worldish–banana-republic style.
Far too many of its citizens (yeah, yeah, I know: residents) have the outlook of peasants or even serfs with respect to (1) the powers that be, and (2) their feared “competitors” (i.e., black people). #1 especially is peasant-like and makes a mediaeval (“Dark Ages”) rather than third-worldish comparison tempting.
You can try and dress mutton up as lamb Emily but here’s the reason S.C. is literally (not figuratively….but literally) one of the worst 50 states:
1. GOP owns this state (Gov. mansion, both houses, most mayors, town councils, sheriffs, judges, etc.).
2. GOP owns this state b/c voters are willfully ignorant and are easily misdirected by the politics of religion and guns and keep voting for them…against their own interests.
3. There is a church per acre ratio of 1:1.
4. S.C. still considers the Confederacy as something to be proud of.
5. For all its hating on the Feds, we suck Federal bosom to the tune of like $1.40 for every $1.00 we give. We are a moocher state.
6. We couldn’t give a fuck about people’s healthcare or preventative care by way of legislative direction.
7. We couldn’t give a fuck about education by way of a 20 year lawsuit to provide “minimally adequate” education.
8. Obviously don’t give a fuck about roads and bridges because hey…”taxes are bad”. When that’s your default position….just “taxes are bad”….you get what you pay for…or in this case don’t pay for.
How to fix:
Stop voting for right wing nutcases and perhaps…just perhaps…vote for somebody besides the GOP.
Yeah cause the Democrats did so well during the 90% of the time they’ve controlled the state…
Then just change “GOP” to “conservatives.”
Good Lord…more silliness from yet another young, blissfully un-self aware, female Sic Willie sycophant. Even as intentional hyperbole, the “third world” bit is tired and stupid. Kenya?! Really? Just dumb. Cherry-picking growth rates isn’t even clever. Kenya’s growth rate is OK because they’ve sucked so hard to date. They have 10 times the population of SC and 1/4 the GDP. I spent what felt like 10 years there one month, and I can assure you that there weren’t many families retiring there from the US. It pains some folks to admit that little ol’ SC has a lot going for it, but most of the whiners just have a need for some kind of pseudo-intellectual sense of superiority. SC has problems. Every state has problems. It’s OK.
It’s even easier than that. Nikki Haley is our governor. Third World is the Only Standard she knows.