DOGGONE IT …
|| By FITSNEWS || The big story to emerge from this month’s contentious debate over the Confederate flag was S.C. Rep. Jenny Horne‘s emotional plea to take the banner down.
Claiming she was a descendant of Jefferson Davis, Horne tearfully railed against the flag from the floor of the S.C. House of Representatives at a critical moment in the debate.
Horne’s episode caused a national sensation – with multiple mainstream media outlets boldly toasting how a “daughter of the Confederacy brought down the flag.”
The problem? Horne’s Jefferson Davis claim was B.S.
Oh, and the Lowcountry lawmaker – who is now attempting to parlay the event into a congressional campaign – spoke hours earlier in favor of the very amendment she assailed.
Anyway …
One Jefferson Davis claim that appears to be legit involves S.C. Senator Katrina Shealy, who joined all but three of her colleagues in the State Senate in voting to take the flag down free and clear.
It turns out Shealy’s dog – a precocious four-year-old Yorkshire Terrier – is named “Jefferson Davis.” Not only that, according to registration information posted by Shealy on her Facebook page, her pooch and the former Confederate States of America (CSA) president share the same June 3rd birthday.
Take a look …
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Pics: via Facebook
Ha! How about that …
Now the only question is whether Shealy plans on turning her claim (which she can back up) into a congressional bid of her own. After all if there is one member of the “Republican” South Carolina congressional delegation in desperate need of being replaced it’s consistently liberal U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson – who represents the second congressional district (which includes Shealy’s home in Lexington County, S.C.).
Seriously … Wilson is a terrible vote, consistently siding with liberal U.S. Speaker John Boehner and the Obama administration and against South Carolina taxpayers.
Interestingly, sources close to Shealy told FITS that speculation about a possible challenge to Wilson “isn’t necessarily off the mark.”
Whoa!
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We need to return Joe Wilson (and any birthright political relatives) back to their role as “private citizen”. Unfortunately, I don’t believe Katrina is the one to do it. In less than two terms, she has become quite comfortable doing “go along to get along” on issues that were potentially harmful to gun owners, as well as keeping the Queen Mother of SC corruption in her appointed position of power for unnecessary additional years. Katrina seems comfortable in her role as lapdog for anti-gun Senators Larry Martin and Greg Hembree.
As I stated when she was running for Senate initially, if she begins to act like Nikki or Jake, she should be voted out at the first opportunity. I believe that time has come. Sending her to higher office to replace Joe would only exacerbate her learning curve in the “go along to get along” club.
Joe needs to go, but so does Katrina. I hope viable, qualified, candidates emerge before November, 2016.
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Thank You, Blues!!!! It does an old man good to hear that from a younger lady, from time to time.
Because Shealy thinks people who beat their spouse shouldn’t have a gun that makes her anti gun? The NRA even backed that idea! And she and Haley have disagreed more than most bad marriages! You undoubtedly are the real idiot here! I don’t think anyone tells her what to do. And as for what you said 3 years ago…you aren’t that important – no one remembers!
Lissen up and you might learn something by accident.
Not everyone arrested for CDV in this state is a “wife beater”. I know it is probably a difficult concept for some, but try and let that set in for a bit. Also, not everyone convicted of CDV in this state is a “wife beater”. There (unfortunately) does happen to be an excess of wife beaters in this state and elsewhere, but the bar for a CDV arrest or even conviction is set so ridiculously low that some very innocuous behaviors can and have gotten good people arrested and even convicted for this infamous crime.
Let’s say your wife or gf has had a few too many drinks, or maybe too much prescription meds, or even street drugs that you may know nothing about. You come home and she instigates a disagreement. Maybe its that she believes you are seeing someone else, you’re not paying her enough attention, or perhaps she doesn’t like your handling of finances.
cont’d…
As the discussion continues, she gets more irrational and more aggressive. Let’s say she knocks your glasses of, possibly breaking them, or she begins hitting you about the face or something else that causes you to decide that the best thing for both of you is to be apart for a while. As you start for the door, she begins hitting you and kicking (hard) and tells you “you aren’t going anywhere, son of a bitch”. Having had your fill of shit and reaching your breaking point (we ALL have one), you scream at her to get out of your way, lacing it with a few choice expletives. The neighbors have heard the exchange and the cops arrive in time to hear you yell. Suddenly Miss Tenderheart, in the persona she has now assumed, begins crying to the police about how you have threatened her and put her in fear for her safety. You go to jail.
Let’s say instead of yelling (or possibly in addition to it), you find it necessary to move her out of your way so you can leave and get away until she calms down. She is VERY aggressive and combative. You have to grab her arms and/or wrists in an attempt to move her to the side so you can leave. The cops show up and she has a minor scratch or bruise on her wrist or arm and says you fid it, you go to jail for CDV. You never struck her or had any intent of doing her bodily harm, but the way the laws of this state are written, you still go to jail for CDV. You may be thinking that “surely the cops will invoke a little common sense”, but you would be wrong. You see, under our “MUST ARREST”, CDV laws, the cops no longer have any discretion in these matters.
cont’d…
This is not some fantasy or fairy tale. This kind of scenario goes down probably every week, maybe more, in SC. Should someone trapped in a scenario like this lose their right to firearms for sporting or self-defense purposes for life???? I don’t believe so. Yet this happens to good people, men AND women, many times, each year.
As for a true wife beater, I have no use nor sympathy for them. The problem is, the wide net with small mesh that our CDV laws cast, catches quite a few good people, unnecessarily ruining many lives in the process.
If you were as smart as you “think” you are CIC you would know that the legislation that Martin, Shealy, Hembree and others supported helped those situations so that everytime someone goes out on a CDV call the police now do not have to arrest someone. do if maybe they did have too much too drink or the neighbors called or it was a misunderstanding NOW they don’t HAVE to arrest someone. But you are one of those Rocket Scientist who likes to hear themselves go on and on and never really know what they are talking about. you just like to throw good people under the bus! Like I said you are the idiot here – Get the facts – then talk. I can’t believe you wrote all that crap!
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you, but I wanted to check with a couple of my sources in LE. They say they are unaware of the Martin, Hembree, Shealy, bill changing any of the stuff I noted. I have been unable to find a for certain, FINAL DRAFT of the bill as signed by Haley. Please provide a citation. Otherwise, I deem you and your comment as being as full of shit as the proverbial Christmas turkey.
Oh so now the fact that you can’t read and comprehend legislation is my fault? Sorry that dog want hunt. Go read the Post and Curriers article on it they explained it in simpleton’s language! You like to think you are so smart but you just like to ramble! Only people who don’t know what they are talking about have to do that.
No, I provide DETAILS, something you apparently never heard of. Please provide a link or STFU with your pure BULL SHIT, Mr Shealy.
Here’s the bill. I’ve not finished reading, but aren’t most of the “must arrest” BS department policy and not statutory?
http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess121_2015-2016/bills/3.htm
Thank you!!!!
Here genius – since you are too lazy or too stupid to do the work…
Part IV
Social Policy
Domestic violence, warrantless arrest and search, investigation required to be documented on incident report form, discretionary arrest
SECTION 16. Section 16-25-70(A) and (B) of the 1976 Code, as last amended by Act 319 of 2008, is further amended to read:
“(A) A law enforcement officer may arrest, with or without a warrant, a person at the person’s place of residence or elsewhere if the officer has probable cause to believe that the person is committing or has freshly committed a misdemeanor or felony pursuant to the provisions of Section 16-25-20, 16-25-65, or 16-25-125, even if the act did not take place in the presence of the officer. The officer may, if necessary, verify the existence of probable cause related to a violation pursuant to the provisions of this chapter by telephone or radio communication with the appropriate law enforcement agency. A law enforcement agency must complete an investigation of an alleged violation of this chapter even if the law enforcement agency was not notified at the time the alleged violation occurred. The investigation must be documented on an incident report form which must be maintained by the investigating agency. If an arrest warrant is sought, the law enforcement agency must present the results of the investigation and any other relevant evidence to a magistrate who may issue an arrest warrant if probable cause is established.
They changed “must” to “may”. And if you think I am Mr. Shealy you really are stupid. Not only would he not waste his time with this I doubt he has ever read Fitznews!
Thank you! I can read, but being currently confined to an ancient “smart” phone for surfing and searching, my ability to find these things is rather limited. You (and Quietus) provided what I asked. It appears that you are right about the “must” being gone from the “must arrest” CDV law. I believe the CDV laws went to “must” arrest around 1995 and I was unaware that status had changed, though as Quietus noted, a lot of departments (sadly) may maintain the “must arrest” as part of policy. As previously noted, this leaves the door open to all manner of injustices, but I would imagine the officer and department no longer have protection from false arrest litigation as tbey once did under the mandatory arrest legislation. This might be something the legal staff at such departments would want to look into.
Thank you for calling this to my attention! While apparently not a part of the most recent changes in SC law, it is good to be aware of.
From reading what is provided, it appears that “must arrest” departed from SC law around 2008.
I admit, I am not as down on Ms Shealy on this one piece of (redundant to Federal) legislation as I was. That said, there is still the questionable item from a year or two ago regarding who is or is not mentally incompetent and who gets to make that determination. As noted by Rogue Elephant, this was and is a troubling bit of vagueness in law.
Here’s hoping Ms Shealy will not be so quick to hitch her wagon to the Martin/Hembree trains in the future as these two clowns are decidedly anti-2A and have discovered that the more leople who can be denied ownership or possession of firearms by legislative maneuvering, the closer people like themselves are to achieving tbeir goal of disarming everyone.
With that, I will bid you a good day.!
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CurriersCourierThere, I fix’d it.
Yes! My wife was involved in an affair, with a high ranking politician. The two of them plotted and planned to frame me on a CDV get me out of the house and carry on their affair. My PI and I were on to them and filed a report with police. Shortly thereafter, they attempted the execute their plan. Had we not been onto the scheme, I could have been arrested on CDV. I was told by lawyers this happens a great deal of time. Their plotting and scheming was akin to plotting a murder!
This kind of stuff happens all of the time! The average person is unaware/doesn’t care about yhese type of gross injustices unless and until they or someone they are close to becomes a victim of it. Thanks to strict policies of many departments and even prosecutorial “assistance” provided by the SCAJ’s office, many cops find it almost impossible to “drop” even bad CDV cases. The CDV Industry has created enough force and momentum for itself to ensure that cases are almost never dropped for any reason in some jurisdictions.
I don’t know if you realize the irony in your comment about their sceme being akin to plotying murder or not. These laws make it easy for one party or the other who want the object of their rage or obsession disarmed, to cause that to happen to them for life. It is a wrong and an evil that needs to be rectified, … yesterday.
I honestly feel the local lexington Sheriff and Chief Deputy, at the time, were complicit in the scheme. Thank goodness Metts and James are both gone. My X and her paramour were meeting with them prior to the attempt to frame me on the fake domestic. Shortly after the politician met with Robert Stuart ( SLED Chief) and with Metts and James support, started a State Grand Jury investigation, which cost the taxpayers a great deal. The Grand Jury found NOTHING! This went on for 4 years. I think these people with the aid of Law Enforcement and I will always are capable of anything.
If this is the matter I’m thinking of…you lost your job as a result. The whole thing was beyond malicious. It sounds ludicrous in retelling, but it really happened.
http://www.goupstate.com/article/20050721/NEWS/507210323
This was the tip of the iceberg and continued for 3 more years. One investigation and evil attempt ,to destroy the husband, after another. Lies, deceit, using political connections, connections to Supreme Court, and State Senate, and eventual abolishing of husband job.
Thanks for the link…that’s the case. The hubby/victim is a good fellow and well-liked. The bad actors in this were and still are white trash.
Please don’t malign white trash like that. Comparing these people to white trash is an insult to white trash!
I sense Karma is lurking. And, you know what they say, “Karma is a Bitch”!
Karma never loses an address!
A race like that would pit two of my best political friends against each other. It would make for a difficult decision. Katrina has strayed a couple of times but overall most of her errors have been toward the soft hearted side and I can see where she is coming from. My major disagreement was the bill about mental questions and gun ownership. The basic law was good but the problem was who gets to decide weather or not a person can have a weapon. The idea of a heartless, soulless, mindless bureaucrat determining weather or not a person’s second amendment rights matter or not is not the way to go. I lean more toward the judge, doctor, family member side. Joe on the other hand is rated at 76% by Heritage while all but Rice are well above 80% conservative voting record. I have told him and his staff that he needs to tighten up some. He continues to support Boehner which I can’t understand unless he is afraid of losing his committee seat. Here again Boehner is the problem. If the conservatives could muster enough votes to oust him we might see a change. But when he uses the Dims to make it over the conservatives it both shows what type person he is as well as making his retribution have teeth. In both cases we could do better but not by much.
Hi Rogue! I can appreciate you taking up for friends. That said, I have found some of Katrina’s decisions troubling, to include those you mentioned, for the reasons you noted. Regardless of her reason for them, to me, it shows a pattern that does not instill a lot of confidence in me as a constituent, in her decision-making process.
With regards to Joe, where do I even start? He’s been there forever already, which is not usually a good thing. Such tenure these days, is usually indicative more of holding a space for personal benefit than accomplishing any meaningful good for constituents. Speaking of “meaningful good”, what has Joe actually “done” or accomplishrd for us in say, oh the last six years in office? I am asking the question in all sincerity.
As a voter, I stopped voting for him when his son first ran for SCAJ, as I am sick to death of these birthright dynasty politicians. It is like every two years his head pops out of a hole in the ground and he says, “Joe means jobs”. His head goes back into the hole, people vote for him, and the cycle continues until twovyears later and repeats itself.
I cannot recall him i.troducing or sponsoring any
I cannot recall him introducing or even sponsoring any meaningful legislation to expand (more like “restore”) freedoms, cut waste, or reduce taxes. He sends out those utterly meaningless little “surveys” for you to check, regarding what issues are most important to you, but interestingly has no place for you to check or otherwise express your views on a given issue. He is feeding at the trough that we pay for, but as far as I can tell, is producing nothing for the resources expended on keeping the trough stocked.
His joining Boehner in bending over and grabbing his anklez whenever Obama wants something, which is most of the time anymore, makes all the clearer to me that Joe needs another job (like private citizen) and we need another representative.
I’ll save his very close ties to many key players in The Lexington Crime Ring for another day.
Hmmmm….which bitch to take seriously? Katrina’s dog or Horne?
Are Jenny Horne and Converse Chellis still have an affair? Bumping nasties on Wednesday afternoons?
I just lost my lunch on that one.
Joe Wilson definitely needs to go! he and Roxanne are a total embarrassment .
I remember when he used money inappropriately buying overseas gifts!
When Joe was in the State Senate I had some dealings with him, a brain, he isn’t.
Also remember Roxanne bragging about all of the world travel she did with Joe and the number of Countries they had sex in. That image was burned into my memory unfortunately and causes recurring night mares!
Wilson also had that Peeler woman in his office, she was in her third marriage to another man, at the time and she always slayed Mary Howard, viciously. She left unexpectedly and was having an affair with Bob Peeler, another slug with no brains.
They are ALL associates and party animals of Danny Frazier, of Lexington Crime Ring.
All truly infamous and of questionable character.
Hey Mildred!
That’s the best kind.
We laugh about Peeler. He use to pull around that big plastic cow, now he lives with one
Which one is more fake?
We have not been able to tell.
Shealy could win with Folks’ backing. Just think what he did for the candidacy of T-Rav and Nancy Mace.
I miss the emails that I used to receive from Nancy Mace when she was running for office – even though I never contributed to her campaign or sent her campaign my email address or ever met the woman. So hoping my close friend Nancy will run for office again so that we can start back up our correspondence – one-sided though it was.
(Whatever happened to her anyway?)
Real Estate: Commercial and Residential. A way to keep making contacts until she runs for something again.
http://www.nancymace.net/about/
Can we talk about how she named her new donkey Pinckney? Pretty much par-for-the-uncouth-course in Red Bank.
That is a statement that tells us absolutely N O T H I N G !!! In fact, I have never met and of the people involved, yet I can confirm that the statement is absolutely T R U E !!!
Will Folks “isn’t necessarily” the dumbest person in the world.”
Ouch.
Read carefully, it could be taken as a compliment. Which precisely why Fits statements are meaningless. They can be understood in multiple ways.
Except for the Mrs. Katrina – I’ll bet that she didn’t let Sic t pussyfoot around with his statements about “love’, “commitment”, and “marriage”……
This wasn’t a FITS statement, it was from a source. It’s deliberately vague because that’s how people talk in politics.
Why even bother with a sanctimonious attack on something so petty?
If you can’t handle a little ambiguity, stop visiting the site. Your comments add no value here, but they would echo nicely at The Daily Kos.
Sources familiar with with the thought processes of those who know Bible Thumper informed me that Thumper might not necessarily be offended by your comment.
I confirm that the statement above reportedly could be accurate, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s true.
What a nerd….
The Dog has a pedigree also. His sire on the form is Reagan, affectionately known as “Dutch”.
S.C. Rep. Jenny Horne…daughter of the Confederacy…
The Confederacy called and said;
“Oh.
HAYULL.
No.”
Jefferson Davison was gay according to Jim Mars in a recent interview with Jeff Rense. He was often seen holding hands with one of his cabinet appointees to this dismay of Mrs Davis.
Jefferson Davis was bisexual according to Tex Marrs, who was interviewed recently by Jeff Rense. Judah Benjamin, Secretary of State, was his lover. Mrs. Davis reported that they were always holding hands. Judah, a Jew, escaped to England at the conclusion of the Civil War & obtained the job as a barrister for the Queen. It is said that behind every national leader is a Jew.
Katrina Shealy is a closet liberal, an Obamaphile. Why else would she register her dog on Aug. 4, 2011. the fiftieth (golden anniversary) of Obama’s Kenyan birth?
Whoa!
There are several layers to Katrina’s corruption.
There is the mistery about Katrina’s own birth. There was a conspiracy to get more Christmas presents than anyone else. No one is ever born on Christmas day. Everybody knows the hospital is closed.
Sheeesh!
I gets worse. December 25, 1954, when Katrina was reportedly born was also the date of an ominous solar eclipse.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_December_25,_1954
Be careful, last time I messed with Katrina and her religion you see what it got me and Jakie! There is something to be said for having a connection.
I’ll cross my fingers.
I don’t think in 1954 you got “pick a date” births like you do in 2015.
Before women’s lib … I think they were just had to grin and bear it.
Knee-Jerk-Katrina stands as much chance of getting elected again to anything as I-Lie-To-Conservatives-Joe Wilson–BOTH ripped down the flag
But payback is STILL what it proverbially is and when BOTH of the above get theirs it will finally be people they would NOT let vote who can brag !!!
It never ceases to amaze me that some you internet patriots know everything about everything, but never seem to hear the call to offer themselves as a candidate for anything. You would think with their vast knowledge they would be a sure bet to be elected to whatever their little hearts desire. Come on boys and girls, show the world you have the guts to run for anything and then have to listen to the crap that those who do run have to put up with.