“HISTORIC” AGREEMENT ASSAILED …
|| By FITSNEWS || U.S. President Barack Obama says he’s reached a deal with Iran which will keep the Middle Eastern Muslim nation from developing a nuclear weapon …
“After two years of negotiation the United States together with the international community has achieved something that decades of animosity has not: a comprehensive long-term deal with Iran that will prevent it from obtaining a nuclear weapon,” Obama said.
“This deal is not built on trust. It’s built on verification,” Obama added.
Critics of the agreement ridiculed his claims.
“The Obama Administration entered negotiations with the goal of dismantling at least some Iran’s nuclear facilities,” former U.S. Senator and Heritage Foundation president Jim DeMint said. “But the only things this agreement dismantles are the economic sanctions that have restrained the regime’s nuclear program. Under this deal, Iran’s vast nuclear infrastructure remains largely intact. Moreover, the ‘freeze’ on uranium enrichment is both temporary and partial. That’s not a freeze; it’s a slight chill at best.”
“The Obama Iranian deal makes proliferation in the region inevitable and, as a result, war more likely, not less,” said Rick Manning, president of Americans for Limited Government. “Nuclear non-proliferation, U.S. interests, and our allies’ interests have all suffered a severe setback today. It makes it much more likely that we will have a nuclear terrorist attack on U.S. soil, and that we will face a new reality as Iranian allies like Venezuela become nuclear threats. The world is less safe, and if Congress fails to defeat this deal, they will have nobody but themselves to blame.”
There was also uniform opposition to Obama’s deal among “Republican” presidential candidates – at both ends of the GOP’s ideological spectrum.
On the right, U.S. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas called the agreement “a staggeringly bad deal” and a “fundamental betrayal of the security of the United States and of our closest allies.”
“The international community led by the United States has agreed to not only legitimize and perpetuate the Iranian nuclear program, but also to further arm and enrich the brutal theocratic regime that has oppressed the Iranian people for more than thirty years – a regime that is wrongfully holding United States citizens captive, that is sponsoring radical Islamic terrorism across the globe, and that regularly promotes the destruction of both Israel and America throughout its streets,” Cruz added.
On the left, former New York governor George Pataki referred to the agreement as “a colossal catastrophic capstone to the failed Obama-Clinton foreign policy.”
“Rewarding the world’s leading sponsor of state terror with billions in funds and the currency of legitimacy is as dumbfounding as it is dangerous,” Pataki added. “The accord makes the region and the world less safe and poses an unacceptable threat to our allies and friends especially Israel.”
Newly minted GOP frontrunner Donald Trump also weighed in, accused the Obama administration of dealing “from desperation.”
“First of all, we’re giving them billions of dollars in this deal, which we shouldn’t have given them,” Trump said. “We should have kept the money. Second of all, we have four prisoners over there. We should have said ‘Let the prisoners out. They shouldn’t be over there.'”
Trump also rebuked the provision of the deal which gives Iran a two-week window before opening certain facilities to inspection – saying the United States should have insisted on a twenty-four hour rule.
“You know the Iranians are going to cheat,” he said. “They’re great negotiators and you know they’re going to cheat.”
Meanwhile Jeb Bush – the establishment GOP frontrunner and a frequent critic of the Iranian regime – described the agreement as “dangerous, deeply flawed, and short sighted.”
“The clerical leaders in Tehran routinely preach ‘death to America’ and ‘death to Israel’ – and through their acts of terror, they mean it,” he said. “We must take these threats seriously and should not base any agreements on the hope their behavior will moderate over time. The people of Iran, the region, Israel, America, and the world deserve better than a deal that consolidates the grip on power of the violent revolutionary clerics who rule Tehran with an iron fist.”
“This isn’t diplomacy – it is appeasement,” Bush added.
This website has never bought into the Iran scaremongering. Nor do we especially give a damn what happens to Israel – a nation which continues to bark orders at the United States (even though it relies upon U.S. taxpayers to subsidize its wars of aggression).
The whole Middle Eastern question (like the Eastern European question or the South China Sea question) should not be our concern.
We can’t afford to intervene all over the planet. And even if we could, such intervention isn’t making us safer.
Of course that doesn’t mean we support giving billions of dollars to nations which are openly hostile to America and its interests.
In fact of all the reactions to this deal, Iran’s is the most telling.
“Negotiators have reached a good agreement and I announce to our people that our prayers have come true,” Iranian president Hassan Rouhani said.
Ruh-roh …
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“The Obama Administration entered negotiations with the goal of dismantling at least some Iran’s nuclear facilities,” former U.S. Senator and Heritage Foundation president Jim DeMint said.
Can we really trust the man who started the recession?
What influence could Bush possibly have on these negotiations?
I think he meant to say “the guy who has kept the recession going”, not the guy who started it.
oooooohhhhh….
my bad.
I doubt it since the dimwits blame Obama for Bush’s mishandling of Katrina – nearly 4 years before Obama took office.
They stay confused. And…they vote.
Oh, no, not really. That truly was Bush the younger who fumbled Katrina on the 10 yard line …
O has screwed the pooch, even more than jimmy Carter. Future generations will look back and hate this administration and most, if not all elected officials for the Govt and Country they were left with.
By “kept going” you mean adding 200,000+ jobs every month, seeing the stock market more than double, reducing the fraction of people without health insurance to only 11.4%?
He’s like Haley with regard to jobs figures. They forget to count or tell us about the businesses that fold and the jobs that go away for every one of the successes they point to.
I am still uninsured. The only difference is yhat now I get to pay a fine for being such. Gee, thanks Barry. What do I get next year, a rose bush up my ass?
Nice catch. But that would be George the 1st.
““After two years of negotiation the United States together with the international community has achieved something that decades of animosity has not: a comprehensive long-term deal with Iran that will prevent it from obtaining a nuclear weapon,” Obama said.
Can we really trust the man who said “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period”?
Can we really trust the man who said “Benghazi was the result of a video”?
Can we really trust the man who traded 5 terrorist killers for a known deserter and then celebrated said deserter in the Rose Garden while claiming the deserter acted “honorably”?
Can we really trust the man who was for same-sex marriage, then staunchly against it, then for it again all in span of a decade?
Only fools would trust this man but there are a lot of fools on this site. This of course is a horrible deal that gives Iran everything it wanted, which of course is what Obama wanted.
… either or, DeMinted or Oh Bummer?
Recessions are a guarantee of the business cycle, the “boom and bust” cycle. Presidents are not responsible for this, the central bank is. Blame rests with The Creature From Jekyll Island as well as John Maynard Keynes. I’d have to say that Greenspan, Bernanke, and Krugman have their share of blame as well.
No fair!
Now we won’t get to see nuclear bunker busters plowing into mountains on CNN!
I want to see my tax dollars at work!!
Buck Farack
0bama and Kerry have been much like Monty Hall on the old “Let’s Make A Deal” TV program of yesteryear. That was the show where Monty would offer to trade someone in the audience a brand new Cadillac or like prize for the straw hat or rubber chicken t the hey brought to the show. Frequently, the audience member would wind up making an unwise trade and wind up losing the Caddy for a lesser prize. In this case 0bama and Kerry just wouldn’t let Iran leave yhe studio without the Caddy, and a new house with a garage to keep it in.
0bama is taking care of his Muslim brothers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWxX7eQ3DLo
So who’s the dope?
I miss Cheech and Chong. I forgot that skit. It is a classic.
Thanks for sharing!
You are correct!
Iran says it will double oil exports. That’s their leverage.
For all we handed over, they couldn’t release a few of our imprisoned to show some good faith? Such a deal.
Funny how we care about Iran when our close ally Saudi Arabia contributes greatly towards terrorism, just look at 9/11. Funny how we care about Iran when North Korea not only said they were trying to get nukes, but actually acquired and used them. US foreign policy is about nothing but control over who we can easily control for our own benefit, that’s the naked truth.
Ever hear of the term: state-sponsored, you fucking idiot.
I’ve heard of state sponsored, yes. The United States has sponsored violence and corruption against other nations for its own interests. We should sanction ourselves.
Andrew Rosenthal – NYT:
” The Republican presidential candidates fell all over themselves today trying to see who could condemn the nuclear deal with Iran the most quickly and in the most cataclysmic terms. It made no difference whether they actually knew anything about the deal, about Iran, about nuclear arms, or about foreign policy in general. They had their attacks ready, just as they have had and will have to anything President Obama does or wants.
Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, who reportedly has been getting briefings on foreign affairs because he’s the governor of a Midwestern state with no actual experience in the area, announced: “The deal allows Tehran to dismantle U.S. and international sanctions without dismantling its illicit nuclear infrastructure — giving Iran’s nuclear weapons capability an American stamp of approval.”
Actually, no. It requires Iran to dismantle a great deal of its “illicit nuclear infrastructure” before sanctions start to be lifted, would restore them and impose more if Iran cheats, and keeps in place many sanctions based on Iran’s human rights record and its support for terrorist organizations.
“Shame on the Obama administration for agreeing to a deal that empowers an evil Iranian regime to carry out its threat to ‘wipe Israel off the map’ and bring ‘death to America,’” said Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor.
Mr. Huckabee, like the rest of the G.O.P. field, offers not a clue as to how he would prevent Iran from doing those things, which don’t actually require a nuclear weapon, which the United States and Israel have, by the way.
“Based on what we know thus far, I believe that this deal undermines our national security,” said Marco Rubio, the Florida senator. Mr. Rubio said the United States should ratchet up sanctions until Iran agrees to completely dismantle its nuclear program. It’s long been clear that won’t happen, and it could never be verified in any case without a deal like the one Mr. Obama and other world leaders signed.
“A comprehensive agreement should require Iran to verifiably abandon – not simply delay – its pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability,” said Jeb Bush, former governor of Florida. Well, yes, that would have been comprehensive. Again, it was never going to happen.
Would Mr. Bush argue that a succession of United States presidents should not have negotiated arms deals with the Soviet Union because they did not lead to full, unilateral disarmament and a renunciation of communism? I hope not.
The same applies to a comment by Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, who said: “The deal threatens Israel, it threatens the United States, and it turns 70 years of nuclear policy on its head.” It does not do those things.
One of my favorite lines of attack was the one voiced by (among others) Rick Perry, the former governor of Texas and former spectacular failure in the Republican primary process. “President Obama’s decision to sign a nuclear deal with Iran is one of the most destructive foreign policy decisions in my lifetime,” he said.
Seriously?
How about the Bay of Pigs; Vietnam; the secret bombing of Cambodia; the invasion of Cambodia; the C.I.A. plot to overthrow and perhaps murder the president of Chile, ushering in decades of military dictatorship and the slaughter of countless Chileans; Iran-Contra; the failure to take prompt action against the Balkan genocide; the decision to retreat from the war against terrorism in Afghanistan and invade Iraq based on propaganda and disinformation; and the botched invasion of Iraq, which laid the groundwork for regional warfare and the formation of the Islamic State terrorist group?
Going back just a few years before Mr. Perry was born in 1950, there was the decision to carve up Europe with Stalin, creating the Soviet bloc, sparking a nuclear arms race and leaving entire nations in bondage to the Kremlin for a half century.
Meanwhile, over in the land of reality TV, Donald Trump predicted that the Iranians would cheat. Perhaps they will, but this assessment comes from the man who reportedly told some Hollywood conservatives last Friday that the United States should have invaded Mexico instead of Iraq.”
I just read the first line, and that tells me there are some VERY Smart Republican presidential candidates.
As for you: You are a blind, and ignorant idiot. Obama could rape your wife and butcher your mother in front of you, and you’d jump down to suck his dick. You are are a sickening piece of shit. Leave my country, you asshole. GTFO, you anti-American Bastard.
PS: Forgive my niceties. But if I told you how I really felt about Obama, and his worshipers, it would not be fit to post.
Big government types that think they are smarter than everyone else will like this deal. The other 99% of the planet thinks this deal suxs.
Really, big government types? So you right wing nuts, want small government war? Yea, that’s smart.
We don’t want war. Though we would like you pushed under the nearest bus.
Sure you do. Its the only acceptable answer. I will fully support you, if you and your fellow Chicken Hawks will volunteer to be in the fist wave. But that would never happen, because you are, well, Chicken Hawks.
Choke this chicken, you fat assed big government hawk.
Coward.
Your momma is a coward. Especially when she chokes on this huge chicken
Actually, after reading the BBC, It seems the ONLY people – on the planet – who have a problem with the plan are the Israelis and their minions in the once GOP.
Oh, the Saudis are pissed because they are finally having to fight their own wars after decades of the US training their army for no apparent purpose.
You are wrong.
List ’em.
bite me Mr. Big government, believe anything the government lefties tell you, know it all.
I think for myself. I don’t feel any need to waste my time talking to a mindless robot of the left.
You do know this was not an American-Iranian negotiation, right?
You do know this was a negotiation between the P5+1 (permanent UN Security Council members France, UK, USA, Russia and China + Germany) and Iran, right?
Everyone of those countries had to agree.
The EU was involved, too. Do you know what the EU is?
Did you see the EU Rep who presented the news of the plan with the Iranian foreign minister?
No Big Government John Kerry there.
You people are so obsessed with that half black man in the White House, you can’t think straight.
How, u b so smart.
Blah blah blah. Same old arrogant big government prick you have always been.
False precepts. False assumptions. Half facts and supposed facts that are completely unrelated to the issues presented as if they had importance.
Blah blah blah-big government deception again and again.
Thank you. That says a lot.
It says it all.
A bad deal is worse than no deal.
You want it, you take it. For me and mine, I want freedom, which requires more than you are willing to give.
You want the freedom to be an Israel Firster and do whatever Bibi Netanyahu tells you.
I love to be in deals where I give the other party 10 times with what they give me. It makes me feel like a leftist progressive Jew hater that would give away their mother to kill a few Jews.
Ah yes, the enlightened Democratic party. The rightful heirs of Adolf Hitler.
Obama could rescue a kitten from a tree and the GOP dregs would pillory him.
Pay them no mind.
Hmmm…get a cat out of a tree, or invite evil terrorists to drop a nuclear bomb on us…
Yeah, I see the connection. You must be a fucking Democrat genius. (:
I doubt you see any connection. It would take more than you have. But you apparently readily delude them.
Ignorant fucks, like you, won’t get it until the shadow of the bomb is bearing down on you. And then you’ll probably blame the rain forest or the angry, doped-up shaman you bow to.
You fear imaginary man-made global warming and racist police who don’t exist, but you are a dumb as a fuck can be about truly evil and dangerous people.
You are the epitome of a fucking idiot. Your god cannot be jettisoned from our government soon enough. And will take a hell of a president to clean up the fucking mess you’ve made of our country.
Because as soon as the cat was down from the tree he would BBQ the cat and have it fro lunch.
What passes for logic or repartee in Lexington County.
It is what passes for trolling big government, fat assed know it alls that would eat Obama turds if asked.
You people make me sick.
Very well then….why don’t you, in your infinite wisdom, tell us why this is a good deal for the Unites States? Defend what has happened today or you will be worth paying no mind.
I have a better idea. Why don’t you tell us what you don’t like about this plan and what your better plan is. Do you even understand this plan, or are you just echoing the right wing media?
Blah blah blah.
Yep, You haven’t a clue what you are talking about. We know these are talking points, because everyone in the GOP Clown Car, gave the same answer as you. When asked what they did not like about the plan, and what better plan they had.
Blah?
Blah blah blha?
Blah….blah blah blah!
But on the other hand, you cannot explain why this is a good deal for the United States which was the original question. All you can do is blab on and on and on, a whole lot of keystrokes saying not a damn thing. Just a typical mindless Obamabot.
Obama would never rescue anything or anyone unless it could vote his way.
If you like your plan you can keep your plan.
Or: if you like your Nuke, you can keep your Nuke…Obama said the Iran.
Obama hates the innocent, and kowtows to the very dangerous and evil.
Lindsey Graham is clutching his pearls, as well. http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2015/07/loony-lindsey.html
“Lindsey is indeed a clown. An evil clown.”
Too funny. Too true.
Very typical of the media to take shots at the critics, like is being done here.
This is a VERY bad deal for the US, and countries that just want to exist in peace.
Yet, you ignore the very DEADLY nature to innocent people Obama has exposed us to.
The only crime in America, for liberals and the media, is not agreeing w/ any of the dangerous and ill-advised Busllshit in which Obama is engaging.
You are a disgrace.
Question: Does O’bama wear stretch pants when he negotiates with foreign countries and terrorist groups? I have heard he does, so he will not be uncomfortable when he bends over to kiss their ass.
Putin, Bergdahl, now Iran, this guy needs an adult in the room when he is giving away the store to terrorists and unfriendly countries.
As a part of the deal, President Barock Obama agreed to close down YouTube internet video viewing, since it has published video that triggers the Iranian terrorists to violence.
That was said to be the lynchpin of the deal, and sealed success for the president.
Susan Rice hailed it as the most-significant diplomacy coup in the history of the world. And the agreement increased Hillary Clinton’s odds of being the Democrat Party’s nominee by 90 percentage points.
“I’m really not that good of a liar,” Clinton said, as friendly media members visibly chuckled behind her back.
Absolutely true:
A horrible Nuclear deal
Sanctuary Cities
Open borders
Coddling criminals
Socialistic agendas
Tax and Spend and tax and spend some more
Murder babies
Win elections at any cost..lie, cheat, steal votes
This “deal” is offensive to people of intelligence and an understanding of how the world works.
Really?? Like you would have a clue how the world works. Why don’t you give us your plan? What a joke.
False dynamic.Insults.
More hateful gibberish.
Why don’t you go suck a dick?
Typical no information Foxbot.
I can not tell you how the works but I can show you the main flaw in this deal.
It say’s America can press to be allowed into Military sites. Anyone with an iota of common sense should know that this kills any and all inspections. You can rest assured all of Iran’s real useful Nuclear sites are encapsulated within a Military Site.Obama is not this stupid he and others have agreed to this knowingly selling America and Israel out and I truly believe that.
Americans had better call their Senators and any Senator Stupid enough not to vote against this should be impeached along with Obama. Obama is a Dunce and he and the Democrat Party hate White Folks,Jews and anyone that disagrees with them. The Democrat Party is evil to the Core!
God how stupid can America be?
If they don’t allow the inspections the sanctions are reimposed, and we are in the same place we are today. That is the stick. This is not just an American plan. Europe has agreed as well. If the sanctions were not hurting them, they would not negotiate at all. At least with this plan Europe has agreed to abide by the sanctions if Iran does not allow inspections.
What is your plan?. How would you stop Iran from building Nukes? I can guess the answer, but why don’t you tell me.
“If they don’t allow the inspections the sanctions are reimposed, and we are in the same place we are today.”
WRONG. If Iran is thought to have violated the deal, in order to “snap back” sanctions a dispute resolution process must be undertaken that can last two and a half months, after which the matter can be referred to the UN Security Council. At the UNSC, the re-imposition of sanctions can be vetoed by Russia, which stands to earn billions of dollars from arms sales to a non-sanctioned Iran. You have no clue Jack. None.
Nuttyahoo is howling to the winds! He may need to be physically restrained.
Such hateful, silly gibberish.
Is that all you can say, dipshit?
He may sound a bit nutty to you crackers, but He sure ain’t stupid.
No, he is not. If he gets his way, we are going to fight another three trillion dollar war for him on our dime.
Like I said, Iran a much larger threat and not to just the United States.
Does not make any sense. How Obama’s foreign policy get to the point of cuddling with Iran while having so much disdain for Israel?
Maybe Obama can figure some way to negotiate with ISIS so he can get taken to the cleaners by them. He loves kissing every ass in that part of the world except for Israel.
Just saw Senator Menendez D-NJ on the news. He is not happy with this deal. I wonder how many thoughtful Democrats will come out against this deal. Around fifteen disgruntled Democrat Senators could queer this deal.
I wonder if all of them will be indicted, once they tell the truth about what this fucking idiot has done? That’s how Bama rolls.
And I’m sure his faithful sidekick, Lynch, will be glad to lynch any non-conformist.
Yeah, Obama is a vindictive little creep, grown man, childish behavior.
He has a big job, not good for someone with little character.
War, War, War, War. Now that’s Character.
False premise…anyone against this deal is a war hawk.
Blah blah you Obama lackey. I can think for myself. Give it a try sometime.
Correct premise. Because that is the only acceptable alternative to you people. You wing nuts have not put forth one single plan except bombs and troops. All you do is blast plans you do not even understand, because its not WAR.WAR WAR WAR.
So volunteer. Go and fight your war.
Blah blah blah.
Your gibberish is that of the intellectually lazy waiting for others to tell him how to think.
Blah blah blah.
Menendez is one of the very few, very, very few Democrats who actually care about country over ideology when it comes to the incompetent foreign policy follies of these bunch of clowns in charge.
So, what don’t you like about the plan, and what would you change? We will await your expert analysis.
I would not nuke Iran.
I would waterboard you, soft and max e. Fewer casualties and the masses would be ecstatic.
Then I would say the flag made me do it.
Well, then, let’s hope he beats all the criminal charges pending against him due to his dealings with a millionaire, Medicare defrauding, Florida eye doctor who is his very, very close friend.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/01/politics/robert-menendez-corruption-charges/index.html
Were there hookers involved? As I recall he likes hookers.
No. This is not the hooker case.
Yep, all those big government democrats and their friends are looting the taxpayers. We all know that. The surprised is that they decided to go after him. I suppose that is because he still had a mind of his own.
Once again the Fake News, Rush, Beck, Drudge etc. etc, beat the drums into the right wing nut echo chambers. Its awful, Its horrible. its anti-Israel. We don’t really know what it says, but its all those things. And what do they propose as an alternative? We’re listening? Oh, silence.
The truth that common sense Americans needs to accept is is there is only two plans the far right and Netanyahu will find acceptable; and that is American troops on the ground in Iran; or American bombs falling on Iran. Nothing else will do. War is the only answer. Because Iran can’t be trusted. So either they let us place American troops in their military bases and around their nuclear facilities or we bomb them.
And the military industrial complex licks its lips in anticipation..
You are wrong.
You speak nonsensical gibberish.
(just in case you missed it the first time)
You say nothing, as usual. Typical of your type.
blah blah, blah blah.
You are wrong.
You speak nonsensical gibberish.
I get all my information about world affairs on FITSnews…really, I do.
Obama bought the Iranians off with this deal. Iran will press their subservient terrorist groups to “play nice” until after the election. This will help Obama and the Dems elect their candidate who will of course cover Obama’s back.
Obama wins. The world loses. That’s the Obama way!
So, what don’t you like about the plan and what better ideas do you have? Exactly what aspects of the plan would you change?
Chuck this deal. It is no good.
How do you propose to prevent Iran from making nuclear weapons?
Not by giving them the ability to make gobs of money, buy conventional weapons and evade inspections.
It is a deal only a fool would like.
If there is no deal, there are no inspections.
We only get inspections with a deal.
On the other hand, there are NO inspections of Israel’s nuclear weapons and processing plants because we let them get away with lying about having them.
blah blah blah blah.
False comfort from false inspections.
Nitrat,
Six much arab cock?
So status quo, is your answer. Ignore them. Because they won’t build weapons if we ignore them. The Russians won’t give them technology if we ignore them. Let them starve, because if we do they will ??? (fill in the blank for me.).
“It is a deal only a fool would like.”
Exactly, and that’s why Jack likes it, the Obama bootlicker that he is. Pathetic.
What is your plan? What better deal could you get? Do you even know what the plan is? How would you stop Iran from building bombs? Typical no information wing nut.
Obama bad, squawk, Israel, squawk; liberals, squawk; Fox squawk. Polly want a cracker, squawk.
I do know the deal Drunken Jack. Do you? Or course not. Yours is the typical idiotic, mind-numbed “Obama did it so it must be good” reaction. I think you have a turd where a brain is supposed to be.
Just to name a few…are you aware that there are not anytime, anywere inspections and we have to get their approval to inspect, with as much as 24 days prior to inspection? Do you know they are not ending R&D on centrifuges? Do you know they are not dismantling key nuclear sites? Do you know that the agreement ends the embargo on shipment of conventional weapons and missiles, just a week after the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs strongly said that would be a big mistake? But what the hell does he know. Did the internation community spell out guidelines as to how it would respond to violations? No. Are you aware that Iran is the world’s leading state-sponsor of international terrorism, with a history of sheer dishonesty and nowhere in this deal is that dealt with?
Now….and I will be waiting….please tell me with your turd brain why this is a good deal for the United States and it’s allies.
Thank you for your acknowledgment you don’t know what you are talking about.
My response is easy, because it is the best deal we can get. This is not a unilateral agreement. We are not the only players. And actually all of the issues you mentioned are addressed. If Iran does not allow inspections the inspectors deem sufficient for them to assure us Iran is not constructing or acquiring nuclear weapons, the sanctions are re-imposed and we are right back were we are now.
The alternative of the brain dead Fox watchers like you, is no deal at all. Which means Iran will continue to do what it is doing now without inspections, without an agreement not to pursue nuclear weapons, and Europe will soon bail on sanctions. Which means Iran will be able to import weapons from Europe, Russia and China and construct or acquire nuclear weapons without our knowledge. A recipe for war.
The only answers you wing nuts have provided are boots on the ground and bombs in the air. Well the only way that is going to happen, is another 3 trillion dollar war that will not benefit us in any way. But I await your explanation of what uninformed simpletons, like you, could do better.
“Because it is the best deal we could get.” You are a complete idiot. A total moron. You have no clue what you’re talking about as I originally suspected. No it fucking wasn’t the best deal we could get because we were the ones dealing from the position of strength. And yet it was Iran who got EVERYTHING it wanted and then some. There was no need for a deal like this because the “go to war or make a bad deal” was a false choice all along. Iran is going to do what it is going to with or without these sham inspection guidelines but in addition to that, they also get $100B and ballistic missile technology. And nuclear legitimacy. You think that’s a great idea, don’t you Jack?
What should have happened is we SHOULD have shown we were willing to walk away from any deal bad for us or our allies, but no, this bunch of clowns just had to have a deal – ANY DEAL – for Obummer’s legacy (and Valerie Jarrett’s) so once we announced the framework and timelines in April, we were stuck. This was not anywhere close to the best deal we could have gotten. But it’s clear you believe and trust a man who has lied to the American people time and time again to achieve his goals so you’re buying his bullshit again now.
It’s very simple, Iran will have NUKES with or without this deal.
So why do you care if we try to prevent that from happening through negotiation? In your mind it is a fait accompli. If those of us who don’t want a war fail, we will prove you right and you get what you want anyway.
We didn’t go to war with North Korea once they had NUKES. Tell me Terry, how did you surmise that I want war from my comment?
If you are truly willing to accept a nuclear armed Iran, you are in fact unique, but I think unrealistic. I predict Israel will not accept a nuclear armed Iran. They will do what they can to push us into bombing Iran or invading Iran, but if that fails they will bomb Iran before they will allow it to get a nuke. That will lead to war.
Our only hope is to prevent Iran from obtaining Nuclear weapons through negotiations. The far right in this country has already made up its mind that negotiations will never work. They want War, no matter what they say to the contrary. They have offered no alternative.
“If you are truly willing to accept a nuclear armed Iran…” really did I say that, I don’t think so. You have unique ability to read into words, words that are not there.
Then what are you saying? You say you don’t want war. You say you are unwilling to accept a nuclear Iran. You say that a nuclear Iran does not mean war. You say a nuclear Iran is inevitable. So what are you trying to say? What is the point? What do you think we should do? War, Nothing, Negotiate. Those are the only three choices.
I said Iran will have NUKES and again like with North Korea the United Nations will condemn and do nothing. The point is…we will live with Iran as we do with North Korea with one big difference, Iran is a much larger threat and worries much more than North Korea.
Iran is not a bigger threat than North Korea. Iranians are far more educated than North Koreans. Many Iranians like America and are not religious fundamentalist. There are forces of moderation in Iran.
NK is run by a mad man who thinks he is a god. Who produces and airs government tv commercials showing NK nukes dropping on New York and Washington. Who executes people with anti-aircraft guns and packs of starving dogs.
You’re entitled to your opinion Tom as we all are.
What is Benjamin Netanyahu’s favorite hymn?
Onward Christian Soldiers.
Iranians are all laughing at Obama and America ….. Trump wins, Obama will go to prison anyway. And that’s apparently what the overwhelming majority of Americans want.
Let’s see, the official representatives of the major nations on earth think it’s OK after exhaustive deliberation, but we are instead supposed to accept the raving end-times, though nonspecific, accusations, of a bunch of GOPer droolers and the self-serving Israelis and wicked Saudis.
We have different interests than the elite leadership of China, Russia, Iran and a very weak Europe.
You love big government. You love the arrogant, elite leadership that runs our lives.
I love freedom. Many others do…we do not bow down before elites and their cronies.
You are a doofus. Smart people should decide.
That is exactly what I said to your mother before I gave here the dick slap of her life.
She was very thankful.
Back in your hole, degenerate..
Your mom wears army boots. Or is it Islamic Sandals?
Prepubescent nonsensical gibberish ….need I finish? No, I think not.
AIPAC is apoplectic. Likud is livid. And the GOPers done gone plum crazy.
The propaganda war should be interesting at least. Dirty and dishonest, but interesting.
Hateful gibberish.
Blithering dolt.
Yes, I did that to your mother, just before I gave her the Obama Mama back door treatment!
Funny, that is what your sister said as she handed me more lube.
I must add that she did not seem like a Jew hater. I liked her.
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Your meds haven’t kicked in. Your nonsensical gibberish ….need I finish? No, I think not.
nonsensical gibberish.
Poor Bibi. He seemed so confident speaking before Congress a few months back. I almost feel sorry for the right wingers, as Obama just continues to defeat them. They’re surely talking to themselves by now.
If by “beating” you mean giving away everything and getting nothing in return, you are correct.
You liberal Jew haters are all the same. You will accept anything as long as the Jews lose.
Blah, blah, blah.
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Hey, numb nuts, this is not a football game.
This is real world socialist Central Planning without regard to the body count.
Right wing imbeciles screwed up the Middle East so badly that basic diplomacy is not only a welcome relief, but a surprising one. Cheers to the administration. The Bibi bit is just a bonus.
Hats off to your man Scott.
(This is fast and furious with whole countries in the cross hairs.)
Bibi’s goosesteppers in the GOP and Congress and Likud are attempting a blitzkrieg against any agreement with Iran. One hopes that those who care most for America will prevail. Obama has been adept enough of late that this lines up to be the next big conservative defeat.
You are an Jew hater, arrogant, leftist, Arab cock sucking prick.
And you are not a nice person.
Back in your hole, dreg.
Jew Hater, Jew Hater, Jew Hater.
Did the flag make you hate the Jews?
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“America First” was once a GOP expression . . . long long ago.
No more.
Your liberal motto is “Kill the Jews.” Beat the Jews. Be anyone’s friend as long as the Jews are beaten.
Your nonsensical gibberish ….need I finish? No, I think not.
The ,motto change did not cost much. They replaced it with Money First.
I never have understood why the progressive left hates the Jews. Anyone know why?
The Republican Party has been the epicenter of American antisemitism for the past 150 years.
Your meds have kicked in. Your nonsensical gibberish ….need I finish? No, I think not.
Sleep well Mr. Soft “take down the flag, I am a left wing Jew hater” Sigh.
The switch of abbis and Jewish political figures in America (not liberal Jews) from supporting “card carrying liberal” causes, to supporting the causes of the traditionally military conservative evangelical South, and conservatives in general, can easily be discovered by reading news articles concerning “prayer in school,” “Boy Scouts, atheists, ten commandments, courthouse, ‘generic use of God’ and ‘nativity scene’.”
It wasn’t trumpeted, but it was certainly evident by the time of the Project for the New American Century, and the Office of Special Plans, that the Israeli political machine had turned its energies to gaining conservative support for Israeli political goals… killing two birds with one stone, so to speak… go to the heart of the anti-Semitic South… the Southern Baptists who had “apologized” for Antisemitism… who had begun to reap profits from satellite distribution of “end-time” sermons focused on “fulfilling prophesy so that Jesus can return,” and set them against their enemies – the Arabs and Persians.
After Saddam had been suckered into war with the world – the bottle-fed “useful idiot” that was “born again” arrived on the stage complete with puppet strings, “handlers,” and “advisers (the neocons)” to help complete their vision of “creative destruction” in the Middle East. This bold move would lead us into a new era of conquest… the spreading of “democracy” (domination) – setting in motion chaos in the countries opposing Israel… (and, incidentally, acquisition of control over a country possessing the second largest proven reserves of oil on the planet).
Israel, of course, is fine with the United States pilfering the resources of the Arab(and hopefully Persian) countries, even if it means support by a derivative religion, a blasphemous fantasy surrounding perversions concerning their own Messiach – a religion assigning one of Judaism’s lesser prophets that title, and historically blaming “the Jews” for his crucifixion, and eternal torment for their leader’s blindness to their own ignorance.
Why was Israel so eager to ally themselves with these demented fools who created an entire religion out of whole cloth? Because it would allow them to leverage a very strong belief by these hillbillies – that support of Israel is the key to the prosperity of America. Though the United States reliably supported Israel in the UN, vetoing or ignoring any resolution that Israel disliked, it wasn’t enough. They wanted support from the voting public, which was waning as the “Palestinian Problem” was constantly producing bad press.
Israel wanted to be recognized as a “Jewish state” – and at the same time, “a secular democracy.” Impossible to resolve? It served its purpose as a bone in the throat of diplomacy. But no matter, growing “fanatical” Arab opposition to Israel’s extreme use of “non-proportional force,” illegal settlements, occupation, incremental annexation, and refusal to acknowledge Palestine as a state, or share Jerusalem as a capital… had become an issue that the left found increasingly offensive…”but.. but… the holocaust!” wasn’t working any more. The left was getting in the way of a greater Israel.
The pressure on Israel to “be just” to “show maturity” and to “seek meaningful peace” from the left was unbearable…
Something had to be done.
Let’s appeal to the lowest common denominator – sound the racist dog whistle… Arabs this time… let’s all go use these shiny new weapons, and show these sand-niggers what makes America exceptional!
Well, well well.. looks like it’s working… only cost a few trillion dollars on the US credit card, very nearly causing bankruptcy, but it’s been worth it. At least Israel won’t have to pay the bill… and support of Israel is the key to the prosperity of America.
“Creative Destruction” – Afghanistan… Iraq… Lebanon.. Libya.. Syria…Egypt…Iran… Yemen – an opportunity for the spread of democratic oil and Israeli indemnity in the Middle East.
Damned liberals still gumming up the works, though. Iran isn’t “free” yet….hell, we haven’t even gotten to *kill* anyone!
The sooner we can get liberals out of the picture, the sooner we can gear up the military industrial complex to bomb the result of our first wave of chaos-inducing destruction into the stone age…
With liberals out of the way, we’ll have a free hand to find the money to do all that, *and* nuke Iran. War is much more profitable than single-payer health care, or alternative energy, too… well, for the people that *count* anyway.
Kinda makes me wonder if the Saudis are reading the same tea leaves I am.
You do know technically that would be the democrat party for 100 of those 150 right? They kind of flip flopped about 50 years ago but don’t let facts destroy what are usually your reverse racist remarks. Your just as bad as a tea party supporter. Just make shit up to make you sound like you have a clue as to what you are talking about. You are a total moron!!!
You are thinking antiblack racism, but the topic is antisemitism.
Try to keep up.
Your meds have kicked in. Your nonsensical gibberish ….need I finish? No, I think not.
I never have understood why the political conservatives hate black people. Anyone know why?
Nice deflection, and you use a tired old myth to do so. I never have understood why liberals think they are friends of black people. Blacks have been voting for them for four decades but yet the same complaints abound. Anyone know why?
Black Americans don’t vote for the GOP because they know that the party-base conservatives hate them and wish them ill.
–Black Americans don’t vote for the GOP because they are incessantly lied to and told that conservatives hate them by their liberal democrat slave masters.–
There, fixed it for ya.
Black Americans know who hate them — conservatives, GOPers.
They don’t need anyone to tell them. They live it.
Yeah, they live in myths that dishonest people like you tell them. Those myths get told to them, that perception becomes reality. That perception is what they live. Conservatives certainly hate plenty of blacks, liberal blacks. Just like we hate liberal whites, liberal Mexicans, etc. Please cut your unsubstantiated crap.
Because the females get a free nose or boob job at 18? Least that is what Mande says?
“America second, or eventually, maybe” types like Max, who follow a different drummer than Uncle Sam, are not the best ones for true patriots to follow.
Jew haters do not dictate policy to real Americans.
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Barak’s next beatdown of the GOPer serial-losers.
Nobel Peace Prize bitches!
You do realize that Bibi will start WWIII before he let’s Iran have a Nuke, right? The inspections better work otherwise Armageddon will end up being real and real soon.
“Blessed are the peacemakers…” I know Republicans prefer airstrikes and “boots on the ground,” but I like diplomacy and the olive branch first.
As soon as we get Obama out of office we can start what we all need to be done. Bomb the hell out of Iran. It is the only real answer.