STATE LAWMAKER BLASTS “REPUBLICAN” LEADERSHIP OVER BANNER BRAWL …
|| By FITSNEWS || We’ve written a couple of columns already highlighting the acrimony existing within the S.C. House of Representatives following last week’s contentious Confederate flag debate.
Which, as we’ve noted, didn’t have to be contentious at all …
Dialing the rhetoric up in a big way? S.C. Rep. Chris Corley, one of the flag’s staunchest supporters.
In an interview with his hometown paper, The Aiken Standard, Corley pulled precisely zero punches in his assessment of S.C. governor Nikki Haley, Speaker of the House Jay Lucas and GOP majority leader Bruce Bannister.
“The bottom line for a lot of Republicans is we’ve got a Speaker who just flat out lied to us; we’ve got a Majority Leader who flat out lied to us; they’re both weak,” Corley told reporter Maayan Schechter. “And Jay Lucas, not just being a liar, but his selfishness has probably cost 10 to 18 House members their jobs.”
Whoa …
Corley is referring to lawmakers in pro-flag districts who voted to take the controversial banner down – and will now face difficult reelection prospects as a result.
Corley added the flag debate showed “how absurd our party is,” and accused several of his colleagues of changing their votes as part of “back room” deals to “cover themselves.”
One of those accused of changing her vote at the last minute? S.C. Rep. Jenny Horne – who gave a tearful floor speech against an amendment she was allegedly championing only a few hours earlier behind closed doors.
In another interview with the Standard, Corley called Lucas “spineless” and accused S.C. governor Nikki Haley – a former flag supporter – of having “no moral compass” and being about “whatever is trending on Facebook and Twitter and whatever can get her to Washington, D.C.”
Damn …
Corley also referred to S.C. Senator Shane Massey of Aiken as a “coward” for missing the flag debate in the State Senate.
Most significantly, Corley went on the record accusing Lucas of lying to his caucus over how the flag debate was going to play out. According to him, Lucas told GOP lawmakers that if they amended the adjournment (a.k.a. “sine die”) resolution governing their extended summer session to include a debate over the flag – he would permit the measure to go through the committee process.
Why does this matter? Because it would have enabled flag supporters to go on the record defending their banner before it was taken down – which we addressed extensively in our requiem on the flag.
According to one House leader the original plan – proposed on June 19 by S.C. Rep. Kirkman Finlay – was to immediately send a bill substituting the South Carolina State flag for the Confederate flag to the House judiciary committee. After three days of public hearings, the committee would have sent this bill to the floor of the House – which would have spent a day or two debating it before sending it to the State Senate.
The whole process would have taken two weeks … maybe less.
And the judiciary chairman – an ardent flag supporter – actually supported the proposal as well as the expedited timetable for public debate.
“He wasn’t happy about it but he realized raising the state flag and sending the Confederate flag to the Relic Room was the best outcome possible from his perspective,” one legislative leader told us.
Instead, House leaders deferred action on the flag to the State Senate – which waited until July 6 to take up its bill calling for both the flag and the flagpole to be removed.
“(Lucas) said, ‘Trust me, I need everybody to vote for this sine die resolution, and if you vote for this, I promise you it will go through the full process; it will go to the Judiciary Committee, it will go to subcommittee, it will be fully vetted and then it will come to the floor,'” Corley told the Standard.
That obviously didn’t happen … and when it didn’t, Corley described “a borderline mutiny” in the House.
Beyond the 10-20 lawmakers who might lose their jobs as a result of the flag vote, there’s the question of whether Lucas and Bannister will keep their jobs.
According to our sources, S.C. Rep. Rick Quinn – crown prince of the political consulting empire run by his father, neo-Confederate Richard Quinn – is already lining up support within the caucus for S.C. Rep. Kenny Bingham or Jimmy Merrill to be the Speaker.
Lucas – who took over the chamber in December following the resignation of former Speaker Bobby Harrell – reportedly hadn’t planned on staying in his post for more than two or three terms.
At this rate he’ll be lucky to survive the year …
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“[A]nd will now face difficult reelection prospects as a result.”
Just throwing this out there, but if the security of their seat rests on the single issue of whether or not we fly a flag atop a gov’t monument, then what does that actually say about such a seat?
Hell, it’s probably a far cry to expect a person holding such a seat to be held accountable for debating and passing something like, say, a budget?
I never heard any of them complain about being lied into the Iraq War or the lack of a full debate about that. We see what is more important to dyed-in-the-wool southern GOPers–symbols of white supremacy.
Wait, South Carolina invaded Iraq???
I see no downside to GOPer fratricide.
I see no end in sight for the stupidity from either side of the “party-line.”
But the GOPer side will have the more amusing mud rasslin’ with nose bitin’.
…and nut chewin’… and eye gouging.
no downside
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I consider hesitation a possible downside.. and cowardice might rob it of some its characteristic ugliness.
euwe max like to ignore the facts so he trashed heritage and the flag daily
Yes–he WAS weak and gutless and backstabbing–you know–just like Haley !!!
Racists live the lie
Liberals live loving lives
Jesus looks away
Kenny (Narcissistic as Haley and Joe Wilson) Bingham as
Speaker after shafting conservatives and removing the flag ?
We’re the VOTERS of Bingham’s district who WILL BE REMOVING
him from office and—that’s right—we really do like to brag !!!
Sounds good “Lone” Ranger.
Oh, the irony.
Victorious Secret was an LGBT of note in the Vista every night
And she always backed a PC cause knowing it was NOT right !!!
How many voters are you?
Who will you support?
If he wins the primary and a democrat that supported removing the flag is the opponent who will you vote for?
Push and ram a voter recall bill up their asses.
Let them rip each other apart. Blood in the reactionary shark tank. Good for progressive politics. We are moving on the gun control by first abolishing the 3 day waiting period and then further measures, such as assault weapons ban. Keep fighting the lost battles.
Let’s let them fly their Klanfederate flags only in their BACK yards.
Why would anyone need committee meetings for a flag? What is a committee going to discover that everybody doesn’t already know? What trivial matters about the exspenses of the relic museum would they uncover? Why would a South Carolina flag satisfy anyone? It is cleaner and quicker the way it played out.
For Bible Thumper the Bible was a stumper for he chose to be Satan’s son
The problem for him–like Joe Wilson’s and Haley’s–stumbled over Psalm 53:1 !!!
When it was pulled from committee, it was done so by “Unanimous Consent”, mean ing *any* member of the House, including Corporal Corley, could have objected and ensured it received a committee hearing. Corely is an ignorant, nasty, scumbag racist which goes over well in his District.
valley rat linthead really liked to paint and he painted with a broad brush
But when it came to patriots and the Confederate flag–he came off as a lush !!!
Valley rat is a hater. Just like the racist he claims to detest.
Corley was chickenshit, you’re right, he could have objected to the unanimous consent. Safely back home, he goes on uncontrolled, delusional rants. Corely projects a small-gubment mantra, but he’s a tit-sucking whore himself, but he can now crap down his outhouse any Executive Branch assistance on anything, and may find himself relegated even further down the totem pole in The House. Way down the totem pole is where his kind belong, not having evolved a great deal.
A case in contrast:
The families of the Emanuel 9 expressing forgiveness towards Dylan Roof and the murder of their kin.
The bitterness of the pro-flag movement because it is going to be displayed in a museum.
Think about it.
You want a reward for not burning Charleston down? $$$$$$$$’s breeds forgiveness.
Indy was often confused about his ingratitude for patriots but the lib really was never in doubt
And when one ponders the terminal PC ambition of Haley and Joe Wilson–that’s what it’s about !!!
Kind of says it all.
Excellent observation.
In another interview with the Standard, Corley called Lucas “spineless” and accused S.C. governor Nikki Haley – a former flag supporter – of having “no moral compass” and being about “whatever is trending on Facebook and Twitter and whatever can get her to Washington, D.C.”
Nikki Haley is a disgrace HOWEVER NO ONE will lose their house/senate seat over Confederate Flag.Just a fact.
Everyone that calls them self a Republican is not moderate or conservative. Most of the Republicans in Columbia are really politicians first,Democrats second and maybe a few Independents and Republicans. They look out for self. Term limits is the only answer.
Saw this comment from “PoodlePlay” over at Salon.com. Offers a pretty harsh explanation for the anger, especially that of the Charleston killer. Direct quote:
“You are witnessing the inchoate rage and rebellion of Southern White N|ggers who have, for generations in the rigidly Classist South, been situated just a half-rung above African Americans, and who have lived with the boot of their White Southern Betters on their necks at every turn. Small wonder that they don’t like being “told what to do.”
White skin notwithstanding, they will never be allowed into the club, and they will live out their miserable, angry and meaningless lives never having understood that the cause of their misery isn’t the folks a half-rung down, but the ones 100 rungs above. They are, in a word, losers, for whom being White is the only thing they had going for them, and now even that is in jeopardy. They quite literally have nothing to left to lose, which only makes them more dangerous. Let’s just hope that a few of them keel over from a stroke before they murder anyone else.” Ouch.
http://www.salon.com/2015/07/09/the_true_people_of_south_carolina_deface_nikki_haleys_facebook_wall_with_racist_rants_after_decision_on_confederate_battle_flag_finalized/#comments
When was “The Mind of the South Written?”
Also, the above long quote could easily have been written by Mencken in 1915.
It has some staying power.
. . . “Mind of the South” written?
Not sure on that. Pretty harsh nonetheless.
“inchoate rage”
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pure poetry
“Inchoate” was used about a thousand times by Steven Donaldson in his Thomas Covenant The Unbeliever series of books. He used it almost as often as “Bloody hell!” He could have used an editor as wise as Harper Lee’s.
^^^ he said, apropos of nothing much.
apropos of nothing much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ygnlWfperw
That gol-darned scamp Mencken did love to throw the N-word around a lot, didn’t he? ;)
I see you stupid fucks have to go back 100 years to reference the alleged authors who support your ignorance and mythology.
You homeschoolers would never have a clue.
Soft, I see more disdain from you, a caring liberal, about those that choose the liberty of homeschooling vs the oppression of public schools.
Your hate for “us” is unreasonable, and pathetic. Your hate mirrors that of the racist. No wonder you hate what you see…it is the self-hatred of the modern, failed liberal.
Yep. That’s what it’s been about for a long time all down in heah.
“You may be a dirt-damned poor clueless and near-toothless cracker, but at least you ain’t a n****r!”
“You can’t buy this!” he blurts as he pulls up a pinch of blotchy pasty white skin on his forearm, as a black physician in a Cadillac drives by.
Believing the stories the feed the stupid, makes your blind allegiance that much easier, doesn’t it?
You’re a fucking crack head, must be.
Loser. Your pols bent. Sad to be you. Loser.
Soft, yours are the hate filled sentiments from an outsider, a liberal and no doubt, a person looking for meaning in all the wrong places, such as here.
I’ll be your huckleberry. Take it a step further..picture the physician who only got through school because of demographic quotas and assistance and who will probably kill someone they are treating because they never should have hpgotten into medical school in the first place all things being equal. If not for the school having to meet certain targets, the physician would have never qualified in his/her own merit. But, the image of the Cadillac is perfectly stereotypical because the car is what is really important in life. Good one!!
Thank God for myths. If you liberals didn’t have them, idiots like you would have nothing in your head, but air.
It’s always easier to manipulate the stupid to hate, and use them, if there are stories to lead the ignorant, like you.
^^^ Looks like GT is finally back.
Elitist Democrats will always hate someone?
Your Democrat Party just went from hating blacks, to hating whites.
You’re just the present generation of the most-ignorant people in America.
You were ignorant and hateful in 1900, and you’re just as fucking stupid and backward, now. You’ll abuse any class of people top feed your greed and empower yourselves.
Perfect description of face.
Completely at ease, laughing in your face as well.
Err, “laughing in your face” on an anonymous blog is a cowards treat, with few equals save beating little old ladies or raping 7 years olds.
I would not feel myself too much the macho man for posturing as if you actually had some significance in life. Clearly, you don’t.
Completely at ease, laughing in your face.
More gibberish.
The human condition, since man evolved and in every culture and every race, has had a “pecking order.” On the last day of this planet it will be the same-there will be a pecking order, it is definable and unavoidable, unless you are living in the liberal utopia of Cuba or China or Venezuela, where everyone is equal and happy.
Regurgitating gibberish is worse than writing gibberish. The writer can at least say he was in a hurry and now may think differently. The “regurgitator” has actually picked up gibberish, looked at it, and then gave it his seal of approval thereby showing he was the idiot that bought into the gibberish.
Is there any way that we interested outsiders can help stoke this burning animosity among these enemies of progress in SC?
Anything to keep the idiot Democrat Party as unfit, and unelected, as it already is. Come on you stupid fuck. Run your mouth, so people can see how fucking stupid you Democrats are. You’re despised now. You just demonstrate why decent people cannot stand idiots, like you. Keep talking.
Sore loser. Plain loser.
Just keep sending your messages of hate. That is all anyone will remember of you and your progressive friends.
Pissing off the majority is not the way to success. The flag, which I am thankful was pulled down, was a one off. But your hate will fuel the conservative majority as they do important work in the back rooms of government such as those setting funding for education, law enforcement, etc., to remember that those progressives that oppose conservatives hate conservatives. Just like a racist hate a black, the progressive hates a republican. it is hate that is unintelligent and ruthless and knows no limit.
Hate does not help your cause, but i suspect you know that already. If you wanted peaceful progress you would not be here picking at scabs, spewing hate, but progress is not what you want.
You want the republicans to surrender, you want them to capitulate. In your mind, you are your own god and you want to rule.
Could this add salve instead of salt to the wounds of those upset about the flags removal from the State House grounds?http://www.wltx.com/longform/news/local/2015/07/11/confederate-battle-flag-new-home-relic-room/30013489/
This whole thing is a bunch of bullshit over nothing!!!!
The matter is settled – move on you idiots (and that goes for both sides of the spectrum)
Get back to ATTEMPTING to fix the roads and overhauling the SC tax code (fat chance that!!) you fucking morons!!!!
Neither side is worth a shit if you don’t!!!!!!
I’ve got cow pies in my pasture that accomplish more than the SC House and Senate!!!
Whores and pimps all!!!!!!!
The GOP took it down, you ignorant moron. Why are you attacking both sides, idiot? Are you that fucking robotic, you just say what they tell you to say?
The GOP took it down, you ignorant moron.
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It’s a damn good thing they took over from the liberal Democrats who were destroying the South, and finally.. FINALLY – the Yankee Republican scum who won the war, sent Sherman to scorch the Earth, and destroy their railroads, their farms and spit upon their best, who pushed their collective white noses in their own shit – NOW – the Republican Yankee dogs utterly overcame – finally pissed out the fire of Southern racist hate in their own fucking HOUSE!
Gibberish, gibberish and more hate filled gibberish.
How tolerant our left wingers are…in that same way Mussolini was…
Gibberish
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English not your first language?
Yeah, GOPgoobers, you LOST. Get over it. Move on.
I’m sure that’s exactly what you were saying during the Bush years. “Yeah, we’ve lost. I just need to shut up and get over it.”
No, that’s what Bushies said to *us*.
Hitler said about the same thing to his opponents, SSfH. See where that got Germany….
You are a troll and disgrace to Spartanburg, faggot.
You liberals got exactly what you wanted. Yet many poor black kids are still starving in a miserable Obama economy, and Not one father woke up and took care of his offspring because the flag came down. And you hate still your political enemies as much as you ever did.
So why are you trying to highlight some meaningless and alleged spat between Republicans?
You still hate the American people, and piss all over them with your failed schemes and stupid Democrat Bullshit.
The problem is not the GOP. It works together, as it showed by taking down the flag you Democrats put up.
You might need to Shut the Fuck Up, and fix the fucking mess you’ve made via your Fuck-Up-In Chief in the White House.
No sane black voter would vote GOP. They well know who hates them.
There were more two parent households in the black community in 1900 than there are now.
The average black high schooler in 1958 read more proficiently than a graduate of 2010.
And on and on and on…
“Yea, lets keep these trends going,” said the racist.
UMM this is all happening under the control of Republicans. Not Democrats. Republicans have been running this state for the last two decades. It could not get much worse for black people than they have made it.
And of course you failed to mention that we maintained no real records of black families in the South or their make up in 1900. In addition, you failed to mention that in 1958 a significant majority of black people in the South did not attend school past 9th grade. So only the most gifted would have been included in those stats. But continue on with your right wing propaganda.
Interesting given there were WAY more dropouts back then. And your source for data Is what?
His pappy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R7l7nDuj1o
There are other groups who would be insane to vote GOP. Including:
Gay People
Working Women
Single Mothers
Hispanics
Anyone with a Daughter
Non-Christians
Anyone who is a member of Romney’s 48% of people Republicans don’t care about.
All human beings with an IQ above 40
IOW – 1% of the population benefits from Republican rule.
#Nikkicares because #Blackvotesareallthatmatter
Hey GT, wasn’t it a hell of a lot easier to just post under your disqus account than a thousand different ways as a guest? You can’t consider the FITS comment section as your blog if you do that, either.
They weer starving in Bush’s economy too. It’s called the Southern colonial economy
Schoolin’ is a waste of time and money… get out there and *earn* a living – like Jeff Foxworthy!
I see the children are up past their bedtime throwing a tantrum tonight. All 3 are a barrier to civil discourse and mutual understanding.
…thanks be to Republicans – we have you to restore our misguided focus.
I wasn’t referring to you. But since you consider yourself as such I guess it applies to you.
to you
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I’m rubber and you’re glue… stop me if you’ve heard this.
Such a child. I would think that Texas would have enough issues to occupy your time.
It should also be a big enough to contain your narrow views, of course so is a thimble.
Such a child. I would think that Texas would have enough issues to occupy your time.
It should also be a big enough to contain your narrow views, of course so is a thimble.
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Texas is to South Carolina what a gun is to a fish.
Gibberish. A man that can spew such gibberish is a man capable of so little in life. If only we could see through the computer screen to you little world. What a joyless little life you must have in your hobbit sized world..
Gibberish
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Would you like for me to translate my messages into dumbshit for you?
I can perform that service for a nominal fee.
Send 75 dollars per message with paypal to my email address.
Conservatives see hate as their deserved legacy.
Just like those who perpetuated the non-fictional atrocities in Salem, Republicans now look for the devil behind every bush and in the hearts of all those around them, never recognizing that their own souls are now hopelessly corrupt and blind to the light and goodness of God. Abandoning goodness for the hypocrisy of their brothers in hate – for Jesus’ sake.
When a minister of grace speaks from the pulpit, with power and fervid eloquence, and with his hand on the open Bible, of the sacred truths of Christ, and of saint-like lives and triumphant deaths, and of future bliss or misery unutterable… then do Republicans in their pews turn pale, dreading lest the roof should thunder down upon the gray blasphemer and his soulless and unbelieving hearers.
He paused… and heard the swell of what seemed a hymn, rolling solemnly from a distance, with the weight of many voices. He knew the tune; it was a familiar one in the choir of the village meeting-house… and in his mind’s eye, he sees his congregation steeped in sin, and awash with hypocrisy… and he wonders… .”Is hypocrisy among my teachers and fellows any reason why I should quit my dear Faith, and not go after her?”
The light of heaven does not shine upon the scene, for they have all chosen to walk in the darkness. Alone again, the Republican looks up to heaven, but finds his view obscured by a black cloud which seems to contain the voices of many sinners speaking at once, as from a television. It is an omen, for a Republican must not lower his guard even to those he loves, or it could become a distraction and so blind his eyes to heaven.
It is, however, only when the Republican hears his beloved Faith’s voice being swept along in the leftist crowd that he finally surrenders to the darkness. Seeing his beloved in the arms of another, he cries out – “My Faith is gone!”
More supposed high mindedness, but actual nonsensical gibberish, glistening with hate and supporting the propositions of a failed life and the simpleminded talking points of the arrogant left.
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nonsensical gibberish
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Have I suggested night courses?
Don’t recommend the ones you attended.
True.
Don’t send a boy to do a man’s job.
Wow, you make Republicans sound JUST like Democrats, there! Good Job!
Republicans *are* the Democrats of the Confederacy.
Democrats are only trying to hide from their legacy. They are and will always be about divisiveness.
divisiveness
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a lesser charge… Republicans have pulled on a mask, and deny the scourges of their conservative history.
Thank you for the Hare Krishna LSD trip.
I suggest mint snuff for the next step in your journey.
Jesus loathes conservatives . . . as they are like scum.
as they are like scum
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They have been given over to their shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. and approach oxen unnaturally.
They are not estranged from their lust.
Republicans sup with evil men in places of power, and eat the bread of him that hath an evil eye, and desire his dainty meats, for they are deceitful meats – and Republicans are vile beyond description.:
They are utterly lost, for their conscience has been seared, as with a hot iron.
I b so happy dat pogressive librals like Soft and Euwe b here 4 me and my peoples. We negros b 2 stupid 2 due 4 our own peeps. We b needn dare hep. Dey b so smart. Dey no big words. Dey must b rich cuse dey b on net all d time.
I no dey wil com 2 sc to hep us. Dey no dat only cowards rite mean words on bloggs butt do nuttin else. Dey no zero negros think words r goin to hep us and dat big men lik Soft and Euwe not b here just 2 stir up race trubles.
Dat would b de cowards way. Librals can’t b cowards, just look at John Kerry. he got dem metals. Look at Brian Williams, he hellecopter got shot down. Look at Michelle O, she carry 2 8 year old boyz in her ass for dare own protection.
I looks forward 2 ceeing u soon, Master Soft and Euwe. We negros need new owners and u seem gud to me.
Racist much?
White trash in black face
Prime evidence of why the flag needed to come down. Thanks for confirming that for us
Contrary to you literary critique, this is simply a work illuminating the foolish desires of progressives. it has nothing to do with Blacks, simply imposes on the reader a level of intellect that is unavailable to the handful of posters on the blog.
The only ones who deserve to lose their seats are the ones who didn’t have the guts to vote.
And, ’10-20 lawmakers who might lose their jobs as a result of the flag vote’ is a little hysterical.
SOOOoo….. Has anyone found ANY evidence to Jenny Horne’s claim to be descended from Jefferson Davis? Since it appears to be a lie and all that….
No, but this looks pretty damning to her. If she’s got proof (doubtful) she needs to get it out in the public, yesterday!
Here’s the link
https://cwcrossroads.wordpress.com/2015/07/11/a-descendant-of-jefferson-davis-a-question-for-jenny-anderson-horne/
It looks like Bill Clinton had a stronger claim if being the first black President than Jenny Horne does of being a descendant of Jefferson Davis. Unless she should counter these claims she should resign from office immediately.
This is only going to further enrage those that are already upset those that were in favor of keeping the flag on the grounds.
If she lied she has given this State a kick in the nuts while were getting a well deserved pat on the back.
Maybe she “identifies” as being a descendant of JD, and we should support her in courageiously coming out and admitting her lifestyle.
“Lucas “spineless” and accused S.C. governor Nikki Haley – a former flag supporter – of having “no moral compass” and being about “whatever is trending on Facebook and Twitter and whatever can get her to Washington, D.C.”
What an irony that one cockroach accuses another of being too committed/good at the game of gaining power at the expense of the masses.
I guess the political drama is easier than actually getting something done for the good of the State. Fire them.
I think we can safely summarize all the many comments and takes into the following:
The flag-fellators lost because they deserved to lose, their unending hatred for black people offending Jesus.
They completely lost: the flag was dragged down to hoots and cheers, like the toppling of Saddam’s statue.
Their noses were rubbed in it for their continuing hatefulness.
I expect the last will go on.
Jenny Horne nee Davis was an inspirational help and we enemies of the flag and the white supremacy it represents thank her for it.
Corley is new to the political game, and with his attitude and name calling it’s apparent he is ignorant to the ins and outs. You just don’t attack your fellow party members. The funny thing is that Corley is not well like in Aiken County. He is a short termer.