… NEVER CHANGED
|| By FITSNEWS || The debate over the Confederate flag in South Carolina is … over.
Thankfully.
Yet while the Palmetto State was turning itself inside out to remove the controversial banner from the grounds of the S.C. State House, the rest of the country didn’t blink regarding its opinion of the flag.
According to a recent CNN/ ORC poll (.pdf here), 57 percent of Americans view the flag as a symbol of southern pride, compared to only 33 percent who believe the banner is racist. Fifteen years ago – the last time the flag created a national firestorm – 59 percent viewed it as a symbol of southern pride compared to 28 percent who viewed it as racist.
That’s within the margin of error, people … and the 2015 poll was taken more than a week after the horrific, racially motivated “Holy City Massacre” – the mass murder of nine black churchgoers at the Mother Emanuel AME Church in downtown Charleston, S.C. by a 21-year-old, flag-toting white supremacist.
While the rest of the country doesn’t view the flag as racist, a majority – 55 percent – still support taking the banner off of government property (excluding museums) compared to 43 percent who oppose the flag’s removal.
Those numbers – and the underlying racial and partisan divides – are consistent with state polling on the issue.
Regardless of what the polls say, we believe removing the flag was the right thing to do.
After all as one Palmetto political consultant told us, state leaders need to “get back to pressing stuff that keeps us barely ahead of Mississippi.”
Indeed. South Carolina is one of the poorest, least intelligent, most underemployed, most dangerous states in America. But there’s no reason it has to stay that way … for any of its citizens.
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Whatever, once it is down people will finally shut up about it on both sides.
Shit WIS and Will have this on their schedule for the next two weeks. You know WIS is going to have multiple hour long specials on this 4 minute ceremony.
WIS will milk this for the next 25 years at least.
Ongoing continues coverage and analysis of the Storm Roof trial
Storm Roof Executed – Carolina Healing
The AME 9 and the Flag will be “Story of The Year” unless 2 hurricanes hit with in hours of each other this fall.
The AME 9 – Remembering our anguish
The Confederate Flag one year later – A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag five years later – A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag ten years later – A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag fifteen years later – A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag twenty years later – A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag twenty-five years later – A WIS News Special Report
Don’t forget the encore presentation during the annual Orangeburg Massacre weekly presentation.
The Confederate Flag one year later – A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag five years later – A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag ten years later – A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag fifteen years later – A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag twenty years later – A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag twenty-five years later – A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag one year later (We’re still not where we should be because the small Rebel flags still fly over Confederate veteran’s graves!) – A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag five years later (We STILL have monuments and roads named after Confederates and it’s costing our state $$$) – A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag ten years later (Why we should have put the Second Amendment in the trash heap of history 10 years ago!)- A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag fifteen years later (The Legacy of the Confederate flag is keeping our state poor and backward)- A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag twenty years later (Time to ditch “Old Glory” for a more inclusive INTERNATIONAL flag.)- A WIS News Special Report
The Confederate Flag twenty-five years later (Things have gotten worse! It is past time to do away with our 250 year old Constitution) – A WIS News Special Report
Fixed it for ya!
[TBG thinks your timeframe is waaaay generous.]
Praying for the two hurricanes…
Remrmber how WIS milked(s) Hurricane Hugo?
“WIS coverage of Hurricane Hugo”
“WIS, Hurricane Hugo , one week later”
“WIS, Hurricane Hugo, two weeks later”
“WIS, Hurricane Hugo, three weeks later”
“WIS, Hurricane Hugo, one month later”
“WIS, Hurricane Hugo, two months later”
etc, etc, etc, … .
WIS,
BS. There is more hate than ever/
” the horrific, racially motivated ”
Everybody… Will shut the fuck up? They’re feeding the worms and slugs now.
SC has and is always going to be the laughing stock of the country, look at the people who live here. I live here and have to take a double-take damn near everytime I leave the house. A trip to Walmart is like going to the side show tent at the fair.
Agreed, and what is so ironic is that those who typically bash the state – uh, Northerners – vote EXACTLY the same way as the 40-50% of those dumb-A’s who actually drag this state down. And really, if you think about it, these are the sideshow freaks at Wal-Mart that you allude to. As a lifelong palmetto native, I’ve never seriously thought of retiring elsewhere.. until now. Heck, maybe I’ll just move to a liberal, white enclave on the Westcoast or up North and discreetly take my Palmetto Flag with me.
So you’re saying that the non-natives vote 50-50 as the native South Carolinians do. So wouldn’t make their votes irrelevant?
Uh no.. I’m saying that I find it ironic that when you watch the anti-South diatribe being spewed on the National media by Yankees that what they seem to hate most about the South is the stupid people And yet. said Yankees overwhelmingly vote the same as the 40-50% of stupid Southern people (Democrat),
And yet, you remain there. Who’s the idiot again?
horrific, racially motivated
The vet came and checked the horse’s pulse the other day. It’s been dead for weeks now. Keep kickin’.
BTW, bottoms up!
No, no, keep at It, I have a bet with CNSYD. He’s going for 42 uses of the phrase and cirrhosis of the liver. I’m going for 50 uses of the phrase and full blown alcoholic dementia…
” horrific, racially motivated ”
I yield. Please show mercy.
No more, no more!!!!!
Jinx. Ha
I’m begging for mercy so I can retain what bit of sanity I have left.
I don’t recall this site or the media pounding the phrase “horrific, racially motivated” when the black man shot the innocent police officer because he was upset of the Walter Scott incident.
Exactly!
No Mas! No Mas!
Now that the flag is down…will it still be Dylann Roof’s “calling card”?
TBG thinks not.
TBG suspects that his “calling card” will morph into “guns.”
In a saner world, his “calling card” would be the Adam Lanza style haircut and craziness….
Your alertness has not gone unnoticed by others, including me, regarding their haircut. Shifty suggest law enforcement use this as a ‘profiling’ item…..
89$/h0ur I saw the paycheck that said $7798@mk5
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“…after the horrific, racially motivated “Holy City Massacre”…
Number Five CNSYD.
The survey group to be concerned about are Dylann Storm potential copy cats and how they will respond to the flag coming down.
Cynical readers stop here:?
The BIG story is not what the country thinks about the Confederate flag, but what they think about South Carolina.
The killing of Walter Scott and the Emanuel nine beyond the tragedy to them and their families, could have hurt the state of South Carolina, the the alert action of a citizen recording the Walter Scott killing, the grace of the Emanuel nine and their families have saved South Carolina from the possibility of civil unrest and violence.
The actions of our civic and political leaders has also done our state proud. Even the flag supporters have shown self-restraint. The legislature did their job in a prompt and open manner with open and respectful disagreement, but in the final analysis came to agreement with wide majorities.
Finally, how could South Carolina have been better represented to the world than by Governor Nikki Haley. Any attempt on my part to describe what she has done for the state in the last three weeks would fall so short of mark that it is best that I not even try.
Civil unrest and full scale riots would have made better TV, and more interesting FITS fodder.
“Finally, how could South Carolina have been better represented to the world than by Governor Nikki Haley?”
Yes, there could have been further horrific, racially motivated events, yet there were none.
:)
“Yes, there could have been further horrific, racially motivated events, yet there were none.”
Exactly. Like riots in Ferguson or Baltimore, or Klan violence.
Sounds like an African orgy.
It was both disrespectful and divisive. This is not the culture of conciliation that removing the flag was supposed to bring. The Democratic Leaders should speak out and chastise those that acted disgracefully.
Shit, they’re too busy moving onto the next issue to piss people off.
Please correct me if I am wrong but I think there were two people who attempted to remove the flag on their own but were not from SC. They drove down from Charlotte. It would fit with the progressive mode of operation to pay a group of people (rent a mob) to come here when the flag was taken down. They would do this with the hope of inciting the pro-flag people to say or do something that would put pro-flag people in a bad light. Thankfully the bait was not taken just as the good people of Charleston maintained the peace.
“..compared to only 33 percent who believe the banner is racist.”
I am surprised that that number is not higher after all the hype about it being a symbol of hate.
I just saw Miss Lindsey on a TV interview. He gave his blessings and approval to the “taking down” of the Confederate flag. Peace, Love, and Understanding were spotted arriving into Columbia out at the airport.
You just can’t help but be a bigot, can you. It’s literally impossible for you to type something bigoted.
You’re post contradicts itself.
I saw it, right after he entered it. It’s about par for his course.
The bestophile redneck with his “girlfriend,” the horse named “Sugar,” had nothing to do with the flag at the statehouse (though he may have one in his yard). The nation will continue to hear a lot about SC. A Whitetrashistan is a natural cornucopia of dysfunction.
maybe you can take you cause to chicago and stop some of the nonracially motivated murders of black people.last weekend 7 kiulled and 40 wounded no confederate flag found
“The debate over the Confederate flag in South Carolina is … over.”
Problem solved, the nitwits, finally arrived at a solution for the problem.
When the state encounters another problem of this magnitude they should employ the Canine strategy:
Sniff out the problem,
If you can’t eat it or fuck it,
Piss on it,
Then walk away.
It works well for my Labrador Retriever, Hercules.
Contrary to popular belief, licking your own nuts, solves nothing.
…my Labrador Retriever, Hercules. Contrary to popular belief, licking your own nuts, solves nothing.
TBG suspects that Herc disagrees.
You are right, Hercules has a purpose for licking his nuts. I have never tried licking my own nuts, I will just take Hercules’ word and leave that pleasure for the animal kingdom.
national poll on a regional issue is meaningless. the rest of the world thinks the pope is like santa claus, but if you live in a catholic country where his word is law, you feel differently. flag is exactly the same. most of the US thinks its as harmless as a steelers vanity plate. but we know that its actually a way for shitty politicians to signal their fealty to backward, racist rednecks.
The only thing “horrific, racially motivated” is the purging of white
southron history. Who gives a fuck what the country thinks. The opinion
of someone who lives in a New England, Pacific Northwest region is as
alien to be as their opinions are. Apparently those opinions matter to
our elected officials, even though last time I checked Yankees and Left
coasters weren’t their constituents. You have all been cuckolded. How
does the rainbow dildo feel?
“How does the rainbow dildo feel?” Are you asking for someone to tell you if you will like it? Something tells me you already know princess
You hypocrite.Last time I tried the rainbow dildo on you,you said you wouldn’t pay unless you got the real thing.
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… by a 21-year-old, [Rebel] flag-toting white supremacist.
Does FITSNEWS know some details the rest of us don’t, or is having any association with the Rebel flag like this?
The Rebel flag is down!
TBG’S GONNA BE RICH, BEECHEZZZ!!!!!
What he poll proved, Apparently, was more idiots answer polls than educated people.
1. The racist flag was a payback from racist legislators, after some black folks dared sit down at a lunch counter in a predominantly white, racist restaurant.
2. “Southern Pride” by its very definition, (unless one is talking about cooking) is racist. That’s the sad part those crackers don’t get.
A friend in NYC sent this link-racism and its symbols are everywhere
http://gothamist.com/2015/07/06/nyc_slave_history.php?utm_source=Gothamist+Daily&utm_campaign=d6fa57b838-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_73240544d8-d6fa57b838-1608453
TRANSLATION: The dogs
is loose and chickens are coming home to roost as gutless RINOs try to trash
the Confederate flag
Like…I-Lie-To-Conservatives-Joe Wilson and
Stab-‘Em-In-The-Back-Nikki Haley…who do so like wax scum hypocrite and brag
That they’re just jerking their knee at the altar of PC
because their heads are so far up John Boehner for what THEY can get
And that–why of course I lied to conservatives to get my
worthless behind elected and you know they keep re-electing me yet
But these same scum led the PC crowd to trash Southern
Heritage and the valor of soldiers by jerking down the flag in SC
And when they AND OTHER RINOs get their political heads
handed to them next time around we can’t wait for their…who?…ME ???