LIKE … EVER
|| By FITSNEWS || America – in theory, anyway – is a representative democracy. One in which government is supposed to be responsive and accountable to the people it governs.
Is it, though?
Um, no. Not even a little bit.
Exhibit A? Obamacare – U.S. president Barack Obama‘s economically debilitating socialized medicine monstrosity.
Over the past six years, our nation’s legislative, executive and judicial branches have contorted themselves every which way imaginable to pass, implement and uphold this disastrous law.
From the 2009 “Cornhusker Kickback” (which guaranteed the law’s passage through a Democratic-controlled U.S. Senate) to last week’s incomprehensibly overreaching U.S. Supreme Court ruling (which upheld the vast majority of its taxes and subsidies) – Obamacare owes its existence to a serious of narrow escapes.
What makes these “adventures in Democracy” so disturbing?
The fundamentally undemocratic objective they’ve conspired to create and uphold.
According to Real Clear Politics – which tracks a wide range of public opinion polling – 48 percent of Americans opposed Obamacare back in November of 2009 compared to 39.2 percent who supported it. Today, 51.4 percent of Americans oppose Obamacare compared to 43.6 percent who support it.
Ready for the kicker? At no time in the interim has Obamacare ever been supported by a majority of Americans. In fact only once – in August of 2012 – did supporters of the law ever poll within five percentage points of opponents.
Even the notoriously left-leaning political fact-checking websites agree …
“As best as we can tell, a credible poll has never turned up a figure over 50 percent,” the website PolitiFact stated in 2013.
So … why? Why has every branch of government bent over backward for this law? And why were “Republicans” – most of whom publicly bemoaned the Supreme Court’s ruling – privately plotting to restore Obamacare’s subsidies in the event the court struck them down?
(Which would have been consistent with their prior lack of backbone on the issue).
Again. The answer is simple: We are not living in a representative democracy that’s responsive and accountable to the people.
We’re living in the United States of America.
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The special interests are getting mega rich from Obamacare. Hospitals, big pharma, insurance companies, etc…the same folks that were the villains pre-obamaCare are now the ones making the most money!
It is all one big shell game. They came up wit the idea to Insure 12 million people for the cost of 24 million people and presto…ObamaCare was created and is the most significant scam in modern history.
Ok liberals, you have the floor. Please begin mindless talking points NOW.
The fact that most Americans agreed with SCOTUS keeping Obamacare live and well is pretty interesting. Even more interesting is that people like the Affordable Care Act more than Obamacare, even though they are one in the same. Also, if you break down major planks of the reform, most Americans support the biggest pieces of it.
Republicans have done a great counter-marketing campaign against health care reform. Then again with propagandists like Roger Ailes and others that comes as no surprise.
Unfortunately for Alex, irony isn’t covered by the ACA.
Most people don’t agree! (especially working people!)
Break down the planks of any piece of most any plan and people agree with them. But the cumulative is what is important, and I have never seen a poll showing that most americans support the plan.
You are right, there has been no such poll. Although some people are quoting a poll that says more people than not approved of the Supreme court ruling on ObamaCare. It is not the same thing and some people may have had some confusion or the poll may have included the gay marriage issue. I don’t know, just speculating on that poll. But ObamaCare is still upside and I predict it will go more negative as people begin to realize what a bad plan it is. Sure, there will be some portion of the population that won’t be impacted negatively, and they will think it is a great deal. The impact that ObamaCare will have on the average worker’s family budget has not been realized at this point.
Kelly, then let me help you:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-obamacare-and-the-supreme-court/
http://kff.org/health-costs/poll-finding/kaiser-health-tracking-poll-april-2015/s
These two recent polls regarding the ‘cumulative’ Law, show a plurality of approval for the Law.
Best-time working I looked at the draft which said $9958@mk6
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http://www.FinanceWorksWorldBing/quick/dollars….
On the other hand, a majority of Americans agree with the SCOTUS decisions on Obamacare.
America needs Obamacare to overcome our nation’s history of white oppression. It is up to government to make sure that white people give there fair share to help all the oppressed, sick, and poverty stricken minorities and immigrants. Even if socialized economic systems always fail and require bailouts, it is immaterial to the progress that must be made to remedy historical wrongs and provide non whites with healthcare so we can continue our progress towards humanist utopia.
Nice try pogo.
You know it’s time to toss you hat in when you start sucking your own d*ck.
lol….you talk like that around your little girl,porno mouth?…You are one trashy,filthy disgusting mother…welfare check time?
Of course I don’t talk like that around my little girl. I can’t even say “good grief” without her asking if that is appropriate.
Can you explain the process of getting a welfare check? I might want to check into that. Food stamps too – please.
I didn’t want a colon exam last year, but I got one. And glad I did. Never felt cleaner. And it was 100% covered – except for the heavy duty fiber and the gallon of gatoraide – that was out of pocket.
Could we save your colon stories for another show.
Sure. I’ll try and channel my energy elsewhere.
Yeah, I felt like something was rammed up my ass too at tax time, by way of my wallet.
If you can’t afford heath insurance you probably pay little or no tax.
“Never felt cleaner”…that’s what happens when you’re full of it. :)
ObamaCare could become a major factor in the the 2016 election. Most Americans have not felt the full impact of skyrocketing premiums, much higher deductibles, increased wait times, sub-standard treatment, etc. The numbers will continue to grow in the negative direction once people are subjected to the ills of ObamaCare. Most of the 12 to 16 million people that have signed up already are getting massive subsidies, and they will probably tell you everything is just fine because someone else is paying for it.
This program, as currently structure will never be support by the majority of US citizens.
Funny, because my premiums have gone down, and used the save to fund an out of pocket cost account so really, I’m where I was four years ago, with expanded coverage.
Under this program, there will be some winners, monetarily, but in the long run, more losers than winners.
Just be patient… ironically the latest poll listed on RCP is the first in over a year to show people favoring the law. There will be more where that came from…. ACA is here for good and people are only going to be happier with it as time goes on…
Are you referring to the RCP composite of polls for the Approve/Disapprove of ObamaCare?
I was referring to the CBS/NYT poll 6/10 – 6/14
If you check the Real Clear Politics composite of five different major polls, you will see that the CBS?NYT poll is an outlier because it always it is always slanted toward approval of ObamaCare
Here are the latest polls
RCP AVer for 43.6 Against 51.4
CBS/NYT for 47 Against 44
CNN for 43 Against 55
ABC for 40 Against 55
Quinnipac for 43 Against 51
Rasmussen for 45 Against 52
Numbers transcribed from from the RCP site Today. 7/8/2015
And also, you may be confused because there was a recent poll about the recent Supreme Court decision, and surprisingly it came out favoring the Supreme court decision.
The RCP composite of polls has had “Do you Approve or Disaprove of ObamaCare” consistently underwater for the last two years.
You may want to temper your excitement about ObamaCare being accept by a majority of Americans, because it is not. And it will be a negative factor for the Democrats in the 2016 election. As of now, Not all people know of the higher costs, larger deductions, and poor service that they will encounter over the next sixteen months.
Refer to this link.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html
Check the RCP site. That poll was an outlier.
There are a few points of Obamacare that I do agree with, but the program overall, in my personal opinion, is a disaster. There is no doubt healthcare, more specifically the insurance industry, was/is out of control. Has Obamacare addressed those issues?No.
The issues are far more complex. Both, insurance companies and pharma companies have been gouging. Why? By law they can. People are creative in finding ways to work whatever system is in place, Obamacare is just the next system to be worked.
I remember as child my family had the best of insurance and benefits, yet I can also remember, I was very sick for two weeks before I was taken to a doctor. I had appendicitis. I did get the treatment I needed just in time, but not a minute too soon.
Today, the issues are far different. First, I do not believe there is adequate data to support all the so-called emergency room visits and the reason for them. It was around the 70’s (possibly before?) that opiates became very popular. While there is little in the way of substantial data to support my hypothesis, I am of the strong opinion that the majority of those ER visits are not due to medical/illegal immigrant issues, but drug addiction.
Said it before, saying it again — we need better mental health care. Rehabilitation not incarceration. Pay now or pay later.
ObamaCare isn’t going to fix that problem. It is only going to make it more expensive and difficult to find that kind of care.
Of course then there is the Republican “plan” (see below)
(Space left blank to indicate the “plan”)
LMAO! I know you are probably pogo, flip or whoever you are calling yourself today, but that is funny in a pathetic way. Republicans DON’T have a plan and that is the problem.
I was better off before when there was no plan. Like now, I had no insurance, but at least IRS wasn’t robbing me additionally for 0bama’s fine (fee, or what the hell ever) as they did this year.
You also have to ask — how can one self insure now, without being fined? Maybe there is a way?
OT: I do admit my fascination with the ad to the right “If you have gas, bloating, constipation or an upset stomach please watch this video…” Who the hell discussing politics doesn’t suffer all the above? :)
A word of advice to those on Medicare. If you go to the emergency room and they want to keep you there for observation, Medicare pays very little and you will be on the hook for the remainder.
Ha! Ha! Tough shit!
Americans knew ACA was part of the deal when they voted for Obama TWICE .
And yet somehow he was reelected despite a campaign that centered on the issue and the American people have yet to elect a veto-proof majority to get rid of it. Representative democracies make decisions by VOTING, not looking at Real Clear Politics averages.