OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FOR ADDRESSING CONTROVERSIAL BANNER NOW … NOT LATER
|| By FITSNEWS || South Carolina lawmakers voted overwhelmingly this week to take up the Confederate flag issue during their extended summer session.
The S.C. House voted 103-10 to add the flag to the legislature’s agenda, while the State Senate followed suit with a voice vote.
Representatives voting against the amendment were Eric Bedingfield, Bill Chumley, Chris Corley, Craig Gagnon, Mike Gambrell, Kevin Hardee, Jonathon Hill, Wendy Nanney, Anne Thayer and Brian White, the chamber’s powerful budget writing committee chairman.
Senators voting against the amendment were Lee Bright, Tom Corbin and Danny Verdin.
Bear in mind the vote doesn’t bring the flag down – it simply amends an adjournment resolution to allow lawmakers to take up the issue.
Specifically, the legislation stated that “in addition to the matters which may be considered by the General Assembly after June 18, 2015 … legislation concerning the South Carolina Infantry Battle Flag of the Confederate States of America and surrounding arrangement located at the Confederate Soldier Monument on the grounds of the State Capitol Complex also may be introduced, received, and considered by each body of the General Assembly.”
Had lawmakers not approved such language, legislation to remove the flag would have had to wait until January.
Good …
Lawmakers are doing exactly what we urged them to do three days ago in response to the horrific, racially motivated “Holy City Massacre,” the mass murder of nine black churchgoers at the Mother Emanuel AME Church in downtown Charleston, S.C. There, nine black parishioners – including S.C. Senator Clementa Pinckney, the church’s pastor – were gunned down by Dylann Storm Roof, a 21-year-old white supremacist.
The votes come one day after S.C. governor Nikki Haley – a former flag supporter – called on lawmakers to take the banner down (which is consistent with our editorial position).
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DSR’s name should no longer be mentioned. He should be referred to as “He who’s name shall not be mentioned” or the Dumbass from Garners Ferry. Either/Or. Uttering or typing his name may call forward other demons like him.
One More Dumbass from That Cornucopia of Dumbasses, Lexington County”
ahh… the soothing sound of Republicans, tormented in hell.
A rhapsody from their well-deserved roasting.
Let’s not waste the momentum! Let’s re-name all military bases and schools currently named for Confederate generals. Let’s also purge all public libraries of Southern literature, especially books which glorify the moral character of Gen. LEE and Jackson. Furthermore all monuments to Confederate generals and all cemeteries to Confederate dead need to be eliminated.
Moreover, we should forbid the singing of Dixie. ..such expressions of solidarity with the Confederacy should be considered a hate crime, in my opinion…And we should ban the so-called Confederate battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia…such displays only serve to offend and should be considered a hate crime…This is 2015, people! Yes we can!
Dixie was written by a Yankee living in New York city long before the war and was sung by folks on both sides up until the war.
It is on the way…after they ban churches and raid homes with Bible studies,ban home schooling and the STATE takes over private businesses.Health care was a good start.
Give em some time.
There’s a reason the “slippery slope” argument is considered a logical fallacy. Your homework is to learn why that is.
It happened with abortion-‘slipper slope’…abortion became infanticide (late term/partial birth) became euthenasia (death panels/rationing health care= Obamacare.
Former Surgeon General C.Everette Koop predicted it in ‘Whatever Happened to the Human Race’.
Death panels? Your intelligence is on full display.
Wouldn’t it have better for everyone just to set up re-education camps, and revoke the right of every slave owner to own property?
To pay their debt to society, they could sent to work camps to create solar panels, wind farms, and plant switch grass.
Give all of the land and resources to freed slaves and allow immigrants from Mexico, Canada, Asia and Europe to homestead the land, and revive it. I’m sure that kind of thing is acceptable in the South as only fair…. identify the enemy, and insure their utter defeat.
The South certainly doesn’t appreciate the mercy they were shown, and show their ass at every opportunity.
Our coddling of the South makes us appear weak before the world, and invites war. An iron hand is what is required.
The punishment for treason is well known.
“. identify the enemy, imprison and torture them for information about their contacts, round them up at night, make them turn in their family and friends or execute them for treason …. take our country back.”
Keep spewing the shit ya fucking psycho. Why Republicans control the senate,house,34 governorships and a majority of state legislatures( both chambers for the first time since the Civil War). This all happened since 2008.
Middle America has identified your ilk as American hating traitors to this great country.Obama has destroyed the Democratic Party. You want open borders because the American CITIZENS know you are filthy degenerates looking to eliminate the institutions and foundations that made this country great. and will NEVER vote for your agenda again.You will NEVER hold power again.Burn and loot away.Take flags down.Take Bibles.Boycott businesses. Won’t change a damn thing loser.The Vietnam War is over.You fucked up hippies disgraced this country at home and abroad.WE ain’t going back to your American hating ways.
God Bless America!!!
This all happened since 2008.
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No shit, Sherlock!
The Vietnam War is over.
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You seem to have a good grasp on history.
lol…keep posting…every time you and Limbaughsackshitkaunt and Frank Right and Rocky and Soft Racist from Hell comment with your hate and mocking of faith and America- conservative Republicans pick up seats of power from the school board to the senate.
You frankly scare the piss out of REAL Americans.
sococonservatives, republicans, nice dream, no such thing on this planet
You wouldn’t know a real American if they came up and bit you on the ass. Hey, I understand Fox News dumped Sarah Pagan.
Ooops – fat fingered – Sarah Palin.
No worries.You still have Al Sharpton at MSNBC with Obama serial liar Brian Williams.
And Jeb, John Kasich, the new RNC, a new GOP sans Tea Party hate mongers. Don’t forget about them.
Damn Rock.We let dead people vote,illegals vote and Obama even got 150% of the vote in some voting areas.
What more do you want.Oh. I forgot.You want the American flag taken down next.
Stop posting Dylann – you should be more concerned with your defense.
You can’t win elections so you have to STEAL personal liberties and rights by threats and intimidation.
Our great president Obama won his election, TWICE! Hillary will win too!
So.. you’re saying you’re scared?
I wouldn’t know a REAL American if ta Navy SEAL wearing red white and blue camouflage riding a bald eagle with the American flag in its mouth flew up and punched me in my commie mouth! LMAO!!! LMAO!!!
The fact that the GOP is now dumping the Tea Party and people like you in order to actually be reasonable and govern must piss you off. It’s a GOP Legislature taking down the bloody tampon with glitter stars. Must suck to be you.
Have a good day Rocky.Gotta work. Peace.
Hehehehe, work! What work? I’m unemployed! LMAO!!! LMAO!!
To all, I want to apologize for letting Flip and GT get the better of me. Calling the flag a bloody tampon was uncalled for. I truly do not wish to offend anyone who truly views it as part of their heritage, as I know there are those who do view it without it’s racist meaning. Of course, those same people are willing to let it be removed. It’s coming down and I don’t want to sully further that effort by allowing myself to be drug into the pig crap of Flip and Tango.
I hate America! Me and GrandTango hate America with every last ounce of our being! America better do what we say and triple taxes on everyone or we’ll call them socialist! LMAO!!! LMAO!!!
That is funny Rocky. Nice.
Twist – I don’t do that. I post under one name – Rocky. Sometimes I use Rocky Verdad, and sometimes Rocky Obama. But I don’t steal others names. But it was funny indeed.
“The South certainly doesn’t appreciate the mercy they were shown, and show their ass at every opportunity… hate is still a sacrament in the South… a way of life.”
The past week has seen quite a few bigots come out, I just never suspected that you would be one to the degree you are.
I’m not judging you for it either, just noting it.
Woosh!!
Well, he just made his argument a metaphorical defense by creating similarities between “The South” and Nazi’s.
So perhaps it is “whoosh”, just not interpreted & directed properly.
oboy, I get to trot out the Republican definition of bigot…
…just a minute.. it’s here somewhere…. ah! Praise Jesus! I found it!!!
A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of religion as unquestionably right, and any belief or opinion opposed to or differing from them as unreasonable or wicked.
But then, let’s look at this more closely. Maybe you can “sift through” this “complex and obtuse explanation : there is a crucial difference between intolerance, and intolerance of intolerance…. bet I got you there. Probably looking at that, wondering “what the hell?”
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Here’s the longer version:
Let’s say, for the sake of illustration, that the Nazis were racist. We don’t have to accept the fact that they were for this hypothetical… oops, now I’ve done it.. into the abstract, where things can be idealized… and distractions to the point being made go away… that usually confuses people who think liberals are intolerant… but nonetheless.. I’m going to be obstinate and probably confuse the fuck out of you.
So, Nazis are racist and believe the Jews are an inferior race, and are determined to systematically eliminate them from the earth, so they round them up and take them to places where they can be taught the virtues of working. Oh, and the Nazis also hate the Jews in this hypothetical.
Are you with me so far? It’s a lot to ask, I know.. and by now, you’re probably becoming impatient with my condescending tone, and the snail’s pace of this hypothetical…
Okay. Now. In the barracks, between beatings, a couple of Jews are sitting leisurely on their hard, wooden, flea infested bunks, starving, and discussing this recent turn of events.
The first Jew emotionally recounts how his mother was led into the shower for “delousing” and he can still hear her screams… he had been in the building and saw the lines in the concrete walls made by the fingernails of the dying, trying to crawl up the walls to get away from the Zyklon B. He remembers how he felt as he stood, crying with his hand on the the wall, feeling the texture, wondering if that particular scratch was made by his mother.
The second Jew asks… “so how do you feel about these Nazis? Do you think this whole “lebensraum” thing is legit? I’ve given it careful thought, and I’ve been toying with the idea that if *I* were a German, and had the same heritage as they, perhaps I would do the same thing, even though it seems alien to me now. Maybe I would round up the people that I didn’t like just like they are doing, so that I could have the land I thought belonged to me from the beginning of time. How would *I* feel if the tables were reversed? Wouldn’t I feel justified?”
Horrified, the first Jew cried out “how can you say that? These Nazis are soulless murderers, monsters! devils! – INHUMAN!!! Republicans!*”
The second Jew replies “I’m surprised at you, I never imagined that you, of all people, were a bigot… not that I’m judging you… just noting it.”
*poetic license
Q: What’s the difference between Bill Ayers and Dylann Roof?
A: Dylann Roof isn’t a friend and colleague of an American president who enjoyed a cushy life in academia before retiring to life as the kind of author who’s invited on-the-air by the mainstream media to hawk his books.
Other than that, both of these pigs share much in common.
Bill Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist.
Dylann Roof is an unrepentant domestic terrorist.
Bill Ayers despises America.
Dylann Roof despises America.
Bill Ayers’s terror group The Weather Underground targeted and murdered innocent people.
Dylann Roof targeted and murdered innocent people.
Bill Ayers used murder and violence and terror as a weapon for political change.
Dylann Roof used murder and violence and terror as a weapon for political change.
Bill Ayers wanted a race war.
Dylann Roof wants a race war.
The real ISSUE.Flag has nothing to do with it.
Let’s not forget the other difference – Ayers and his group essentially were guilty of vandalism (since the devise they used was specifically targeted at empty bathrooms) whereas Dylann targeted, planned and successfully killed 9 innocent people based on the color of their skin.
Also, if you’re going to cut and paste from Breitfart – do it more timely. That article is like three days old.
Rocky’s next mission since he is unemployed is to gather support for taking down the American flag and putting it in a museum.
That is what this is all about.
Blow me.Your lovely little Stars and Bars tampon is coming down. Period. End of conversation. You lost – and rightly so. I’m sure it’s a symbol for many on the “heritage of hate” and they can go view it in the museum. Enjoy – hopefully if you bring your KKK card there won’t be an admission price.
You will us the same arguments and threats to try and have the American flag removed.
Google it.It is already happening all over the country.
Yeah, it’s so wide spread it’s on CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC – no sorry. Faux News and Breitfart aren’t real news sources. Tell you what – if I see it in a real newspaper……. but again, you just want to scare white people that “nigras and hippies are comin’ for yer flag.” So piss off moron. I don’t have time for you today (or tomorrow, or next week, or next month, or next year.)
I have plenty of time. You should try quitting your job and going on welfare. When Maury Povich comes on I duck out for a bit but then I’m right back on here trolling the legitimate commenters at FITS. LMAO!!!
Blow you? Are you a golden retriever or a labrador? If not then in your dreams! LMAO!!! LMAO!!!
That is FUNNY!
The “Battle Flag” Is Not the “Stars and Bars”. Two different flags. The stupid will always be with us. Many of them can speak.
The flag has nothing to do with it! Not the confederate flag, not the South African flag, not the Rhodesian flag, not his thuggy wigger poses with them with guns in his hands, and so on! Wow I am a mentally challenged manchild! LMAO!!! LMAO!!!
I love it! Day 2. Carry on!
Are you threatening me? You dirty socialists hate us and our freedoms! You’ll never take them from me! You can’t take away my free speech!
Judging by his posted pictures, the confederate flag had a helluva lot to do with symbolizing what Dylann Roof believed in while he spit on and burned the American flag.
He burned the American flag after reading comments on Fits? Lots of american hating shit on here.
My Fits American hating rankings for contributors will be out later today. You are Top 10-no worries.
I hate America so much I call the duly elected leader a Muslim for no other reason than I hate Muslims! LMAO!!!
Don’t sell yourself short. You call him a Muslim because he hate him for the same reason Dylann does.
You’re right! LMAO!!!
Excellent. An updated abstract summary for The Mind of the South.
“The South certainly doesn’t appreciate the mercy they were shown, and show their ass at every opportunity… hate is still a sacrament in the South… a way of life.”
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN.
One of my great-great grandfathers was a flag bearer for the Confederacy. Do you even know who your daddy is?
As a matter of fact, due to some wicked twist of fate, I do know who my daddy is. He served in WWI and WWII, died when he was 74, and I was 8! (my mom was HOT!) I served 72-76.
I’m sure Germany and ISIS has heroes and glorious war stories too.
My intention is not to insult their memory, but to remember, so we won’t get fooled again.
My father was a drunkard and a wife beater. Sometimes the truth hurts, but can give cause to not wanting to emulate.
One can choose to learn from failure, pain and hate, or curse God, and become the walking dead.
Did he fly a pirate flag?
No, that was Sir John Hawkins. He was so good at pirating that he attained knighthood. (Much like your President & Obamacare)
Schwul
Abgeordnete!
Männer des Deutschen Reichstages!
Ein Jahr weltgeschichtlicher Ereignisse geht zur Neige, ein Jahr größter Entscheidungen steht vor uns. In dieser ernsten Zeit spreche ich zu Ihnen, Abgeordnete des Reichstags, als den Vertretern der deutschen Nation. Allein darüber hinaus soll das ganze deutsche Volk von diesem Rückblick Kenntnis nehmen und von den Entscheidungen, die uns Gegenwart und Zukunft aufzwingen.
Früher als Symbol der südlichen Stolz und Geschichte, die gerechtfertigt flag-und alle rassistischen Gepäck schwieriger geworden für prominente Unterstützer zu verteidigen.
Republicans really care.
The real flag of surrender?
Former Sen. Glenn McConnell,architect of the Confederate flag “compromise” which placed the flag where it flies today,on the pending question of its removal?
“No comment.”
Sort of says it all.
The REAL goal by you liberal RATS is taking down the AMERICAN flag.That will be NEXT! :
Hardware Store Owner Asked to Remove AMERICAN FLAGS
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/hardware-store-owner-asked-remove-ameri...
From Country Club to Coronado parkways, American flags could be seen every few feet … My grandson is a marine and if some one told me to take my.flag down I would be going to … Liberals are self hating Commies, doesn’t sound like you?
AMERICAN FLAG BANNED: At University of California for …
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Mar 8, 2015 – “[T]he American flag has been flown in instances of colonialism and imperialism,” the bill …. And if you claim to like the flag but want it taken downbecause it might offend …. No Liberalism goes deeper than being Nuked.
U.S. flag back on display at UC Irvine after override of …
http://www.ocregister.com/…/council-653464-flag-ban...
Orange County RegisterMar 9, 2015 – “It doesn’t make sense why you can’t hang the American flag, especially… I feel like there’s bigger issues that need to be taken care of than a flag hanging in a lobby. … on Saturday shot down a ban on displaying the U.S. flag in its lobby. ….Insecure liberal logic: UC Irvine banning the #American flag (#USA …
Texas Man Told to Remove American Flag Because It Was a
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Feb 10, 2015 – Since when is it offensive to display the American flag — in AMERICA? … and told him he had to take down his flag because it’s a “threat to the Muslim community.” … about Tran’s flag and that several of his neighbors said they want his flag to stay there. ….. I’m a liberal and I agree with the guy to fly his flag.
U. California students remove offensive American flag from …
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6335
Mar 6, 2015 – Valdosta State and the black community need unity, not division Read More … Report: America’s top 25 liberal arts colleges restrict free speech Read More… “[T]he American flag has been flown in instances of colonialism and … that a student finds offensive will be removed from the Associate Student main …
Liberal College Students Tried To Ban The American Flag …
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This Is What You Get When You Mess With The AMERICAN Flag! … the student government offices, and while some of the liberal students wanted it to be upheld …
Liberals In Action: American Flags Pulled From Student …
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Sep 15, 2014 – Despite the fact that the flags were taken down, Fulmer has stated that he doesn’t want people to think the school doesn’t support to country.
UC Irvine overturns US flag ban; Gary Sinise and Dean Cain …
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Mar 8, 2015 – The vote to ban the #American Flag was overturned at UC Irvine but the student … I vote if UC Irvine doesn’t want to display our flag, we take away all … @GarySinise @apbayer38 UC Irvine needs to protect the flag and fire the liberalprofessors! …. SC Governor: Confederate Flag Should Come Down. AP.
Sheriff Ordered To Remove American Flag From Courthouse
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Mar 12, 2015 – Liberals aren’t proud of their country and do not want to display patriotism. … “I just can’t believe that they don’t want to display the American flag in a courthouse, …. Sounds like someone needs to be removed from office.
Wells Fargo Bank Orders American Flags Removed From …
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… World News · Opinion · Liberal Hypocrisy … As of Tuesday, the flag inside the Los Lunas branch had been taken down. It seems the people ….. They want to be unAmerican and remove our flag from their premises. We will gladly remove …
Nope, we just want the tampon down. We fought for the American flag. I guess you think Sen. Davis is commie now?
Please.Give you socialists an inch and you will take a foot. The American flag will be next after you sub humans get done threatening these legislators and the citizens of SC with boycotts and violence if you don’t get your way.
We want all external signs on your “christian” churches removed too. The public shouldn’t have to be exposed to them. You will still have freedom of religion, but your churches will have to look like lime and cement warehouses from the outside.
I knew it Rocky! The American Flag THEN churches have to go underground.
Whatever. I hope your taxes go up tenfold! I’m not the socialist, you are! LMAO!!!
Is Eric Bedingfield dual office holding in violation of SC law or is violating the federal Hatch Act?
Washington Post:
“Ten state representatives voted “nay” on Tuesday to proceed with debate this summer about the flag’s removal. One of them was Eric Bedingfield, who in addition to representing a conservative Greenville area district in the state House serves as a top congressional staffer and political adviser to a star congressman, Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.)
Bedingfield did not respond to a call or e-mail seeking comment on Tuesday night, nor did a spokeswoman for Mulvaney.
Bedingfield’s vote against the measure is noteworthy because he has an unusual profile in the legislature. His boss, Mulvaney, is a rising Republican star in South Carolina who swept into office during the 2010 tea party wave and represents one of the more conservative parts of the state. Mulvaney is talked about as a future statewide candidate, perhaps for governor in 2018 when Haley will be term-limited.
Bedingfield is Mulvaney’s deputy chief of staff and has served as his campaign manager. (Service in South Carolina’s legislature is part-time and many lawmakers have outside employment.)
Mulvaney has been less than unequivocal as he waded into the Confederate flag debate this week.
Mulvaney issued a 648-word statement on Tuesday saying he was “disappointed” by what he sees as an untimely and “divisive” debate about the flag on the heels of a tragedy. He acknowledged that the flag means “different things to different people” and that he hopes the state legislature will fashion a compromise to remove the flag in a way that fosters unity.”
There is only one compromise. We don’t burn it and let it go to a museum.
American flag will be next,won’t it Rocky?
Nope, real Patriots died for that flag to fly. It represents all Americans – even you.
Then why do all your liberal friends want it down and banned?
THey don’t. Just another scare tactic by you and your buddies to continue the hatred of whites against blacks. You’re new one is “blackie and the liberals comin’ to take your American flag.” Well shove that right up your cracker ass. No one is saying that. No one will say that. That flag represents all of us, not some racist subset of mongrel southern backward ass morons like yourself. Now shut up. People are enjoying the moment of seeing the Legislature stand up and do the right thing.
I don’t know ANY whites that hate blacks.I watch blacks kill blacks and blacks burn down white communities and loot but I don’t ANY whites that hate blacks.
Love everybody.Even American haters like you.
“I don’t know any whites that hate blacks.”
You’re a liar.
My mirror broke the other day and I never leave the house, so I haven’t seen any whites lately that hate blacks. LMAO!!! LMAO!!!
Well obviously you have not looked in the mirror in say – 30 years.
Obama is not an American citizen and is pResident. so what? Trump called that.
That makes idiots out of both you and Trump.
Eric Bedingfield takes his votes seriously. He represents his district proudly and takes their opinions seriously. His work for Mulvaney does not conflict with his work as a legislator. He is a kind, caring and hardworking legislator that others should use as an example.
Why does the media and the NACP always look to SC for the scapegoat for the cause of all things bad concerning the flag? What about other states that have Confederate symbolism on their flags?
If we keep allowing one horrific event to consume and dictate the reason for removing all historic monuments, statues and names of buildings we will be spending more valuable time on legislation to undo.
Maybe we should remove all monuments that have anything to do with race,creed or religion. Then would everyone be happy?
“Maybe we should remove all monuments that have anything to do with race,creed or religion. Then would everyone be happy?”
Yes they would.That is the goal by those on the left. You can see how Haley and the Republicans buckled out of fear of boycotts and violence in SC. Soon as Sharpton headed to SC the fix was in. Can’t really blame Haley.
American flag is next.
I think it was more likely they buckled out of a call from the RNC to the tune of, “If you want a future in our party, you’ll take care of that flag before the Republican Primary debates start!” Typical political cowardice.
You calling me a coward? I’ll have you know that I am an internet warrior, I could take any of you guys on. Don’t let my pudgy belly and smudged keyboard fool you! I know kung fu! LMAO!!!
“His (Bledingfield) work for Mulvaney does not conflict with his work as a legislator. ”
Doesn’t matter if it ‘conflicts’.
It matters if it is a violation of state or federal laws.
Or, is he just above any law because you like him?
Yes I do like Rep . Bedingfield. It is my understanding that prior to him accepting his position all issues were addressed and no violations were present.
Now the news media is addressing McConnell on the Jefferson Davis statue in the State House of his state. The tea party candidate running for Governor of his state thinks it should be removed. When will it end?
When will it end.Unlike how Czar/Dictator Obama governs America, there is a legislative process in each state that will be followed to decide whether the flag will be removed or not.
You socialists need to relax.
Everyone else is a socialist, not loving-taxes me!
I saw that peeler and haley had a dust up over her plans for the Confederate Flag.
Well, well. two feckless self serving wind vanes, floating with the wind like a wind chime.
I’m not surprised. These two unethical, immoral self serving cretins are a disgrace. peeler cannot say a sentence which is coherent. haley is the most self serving narcissist, who is incapable of telling the truth.
Both are all out for themselves and are probably two of the electorates biggest mistakes.
I’ve heard women in Columbia, refer to Peeler as “wormy feeler”. Wonder how he got the alias?
too bad that crazy a$$hole didn’t pose with the palmetto and crescent. that flag totally sucks too.
Carpetbaggers know what’s best for SC.
Car