The Folly Of Government-Run “Free Trade”
AMERICA’S ALPHABET SOUP TRADE DEALS ARE NOT “FREE” || By FITSNEWS || We’veYou must Subscribe or log in to read the rest of this content.
AMERICA’S ALPHABET SOUP TRADE DEALS ARE NOT “FREE”
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Correct that TPP is not “free trade”.
It allows foreign corporations to sue governments over trade policies, but does not allow governments to sue corporations.
Sounds like the triumph of corporatism over democracy.
Yep, it’s not free trade. The question is whether it’s “freer”(word?) than the managed trade we have now.
I truly have no idea…I’m not even sure it’s “knowable”.
OK, the most obvious contradiction. So according to all this – NAFTA resulted in millions of jobs being funneled to Mexico, thus causing, millions of Mexicans, to illegally immigrate to the US, because – I’m guessing on this one – they were afraid of the new jobs in Mexico and decided to go to the US to cut grass. Someone want to straighten that twist out for me?
You can’t use “logic” and “FITS” in the same paragraph, much less the same sentence.
To me, the most obvious contradiction is that Article I, Section 9 has to do with trade between states of the United States. It has nothing to do with international trade.
“Free trade doesn’t require laws (beyond basic property protection provisions). It doesn’t require manipulation, regulation or coercion. It simply requires letting the market work.”
First, some would argue that IP laws ARE “property protection”.
Second, I agree with your statement that true free trade requires no gov’t intervention.
That’s why the following quote doesn’t make sense to me:
“If you were an executive at a foreign or U.S.-based corporation able to lower your bottom line (and pad your profits) by accessing cheap labor in Mexico, you won. If you were an American worker looking to hold onto your job and your salary, you lost.”
Ok, if it’s “free trade”, that is what is going to happen. So are you bitching about the lack of “free trade” but then arguing there should be restricted trade via job protectionism?
When you have “free trade”, you are going to lose low skilled jobs due to lower costs in other countries…jobs that require no skills…including even not being able to read/write, aren’t going to stay in America under free trade.
The underlying assumption is that the lower cost benefits society on the whole even though low skilled workers here are forced to try to up their skill level or live a life of poverty….
It’s not a pretty short term outlook(but if you believe in free markets it should eventually translate to a higher standard of living for everyone)…but someone that’s a hardcore “free trader” should never be arguing for protectionism…and that includes job protectionism.
The actual basis of free trade theory is comparative advantage. That means, if workers in Mexico have an advantage in making say Jettas, and China has an advantage in making cheap plastic stuff because of labor costs, and the US has the advantage in advanced manufacturing processes, then Mexico assembles Jettas and sells to China and the US. China makes plastics spoons, and sells to Mexico and the US. And the US makes advanced manufactured components and sells to China and Mexico. Since (in theory) the US has the comparative advantage in high skilled / capital intensive products, higher skilled gets higher wages. Chasing after making cheap plastic products is a loser. Manufacturing did well in the 1990s after NAFTA, so it might be that it’s not Trade that hurt us 2001-2008, but policies. And you’re correct, lower skilled employees have a simple solution – upskill.
Love your post and I’m in total agreement, kudos!
This top is pretty complex and involves a great degree of intellect – so – guess we won’t see GT on this thread.
Update:GT shit out a turd that looked exactly like some random Islamic dude. He immediately decided it was Mohammed, and entered it in a “Turds Shaped Like Mohammed” contest, somewhere up around 96. ISIS got wind of it, and dispatched some “sleeper cell” operatives out of Gray Court. They looked at his turd (which turned out to be the only entry in the contest), which they decided looked more like a cartoon version of “Ahab The Arab” than like their prophet.
So they decided not to kill him, but to hold him hostage, as there was a strong rumor that he was working for Nikki Haley, and they were short on money — so they hoped to get her to pony up big-time to gain his freedom. No such luck. She had never heard of him. So, acting on info gleaned from FITSNews comment threads, they went to the leader of the Dems, whoever that is now. No luck there, either, as they had also never heard of him.
They decided it’s not even worth it to kill him. So they took the turd, shmushed it in his face, took off all his clothes, and painted a bright red “KKK” on his belly and a rebel flag on his ass. Then they sprayed pepper spray right in his eyes, and let him out in the middle of the poorest black neighborhood they could find.
Pray to the god of your choice for GT. Or not.
+10
Why do you continually omit the key information that Republicans, including your hero Rand Paul, are all for TPP AND fast tracking it?
I guess, now that I think about it, that typing “OBAMATRADE argle bargle” is a better way to stir up the right wing base.
Do you have to ask?
Where’s that “FITS is no Republican” guy, I’m doing his job today.
Are you smarter than a fifth grader?
Little Johnny was taught that GDP (Y) is the sum of consumption (C), investment (I), government spending (G) and net exports (X – M).
Y = C + I + G + (X ? M)
That is the usual formula, so looking at trade with Mexico before NAFTA and now, Little Johnny used trade figures in millions of dollars to calculate the benefit of NAFTA trade with Mexico. https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c2010.html
______Year____Exports____Imports_____Balance
TOTAL_1993____41,580.8___39,917.5_____1,663.3
TOTAL_2014___240,326.2__294,157.5___-53,831.3
According to Little Johnny trade with Mexico in 1993 added $1.6633 billion to GDP.
While in 2014 trade subtracts $53.8313 billion from GDP.
Therefore the net effect of NAFTA is a drop of GDP of 53.8313 + 1.6633 = $55.4946 billion dollars.
The logic of measuring the benefits of trade using GDP is that if trade is balanced, there is no benefit. If (X ? M) = 0. then trade has no benefit to either party. Only the party with a trade surplus benefits. By this logic there is no reason to have any trade unless you can guarantee a surplus, but your trading partner, using the same logic, would never agree. So trade with Mexico is ended
Little Johnny advances to the six grade. All the workers who were producing the $240,326,200,000 of exports are now put to work producing the $294,157,500,000 of products that were formerly imported. They find that the workers who were efficient producers of the exports are not the most efficient producers of what use to be imported. They have to hire more workers and have to pay them more than the Mexican workers before they would agree to work. It now cost $400,000,000,000 to produce the same amount of products.
Now instead of consuming $294 billion of exports the US is consuming $400 billing of domestic production. So add the $53.8 billion lost to trade and add $106 billion and we have increased GDP by a total of $159.8 billion. Little Johnny is pleased. All the increased GNP and not any increase in the production of goods.
In the seventh grade Little Johnny learns that higher costs for the same amount of goods is called inflation.
In 9th grade Johnny learns there’s over 150 different countries, and so he attempts to calculate it as a whole, then has a mental breakdown and has to get on medications. When he enters 11th grade his father gives him a Hyundai.
Nobody’s laughing about Ross Perot’s “Giant Job Sucking,” now.
He was exactly right, and why I voted for him and everyone else should have.
Now, see what they gave us.