|| By FITSNEWS || Liberal “Republican” S.C. Senator Chip Campsen claims America has all the oil it needs … and even if it didn’t, drilling for more of it offshore is a dirty business.
In an interview with Andy Brack of S.C. Statehouse Report, Campsen claimed the “technological transformation in the production of oil” has rendered the debate over offshore drilling “moot.”
“We have more stored oil than we ever have had in history,” Campsen told Brack.
Additionally, Campsen said the extensive on-shore infrastructure necessary to transport the offshore oil could jeopardize the state’s government-subsidized tourism industry. Specifically, Campsen told Brack that such infrastructure has created problems in gulf coast states.
“I’ve been there and I’ve seen it,” Campsen said. “It’s a reality and something that, again, people just don’t think about.”
Hmmmmm …
South Carolina’s coastline was included in a new U.S. Department of the Interior plan for offshore drilling – a decision hailed by U.S. Rep. Jeff Duncan, who is pushing the concept. According to supporters, the state’s economy stands to reap an estimated $3 billion a year from the industry – of which roughly $850 million would flow into state coffers.
Recent polling would seem to support Duncan’s position, not Campsen’s …
Our view? We support whatever keeps the lights on at the lowest possible price for consumers. If expanded offshore drilling helps to do that, then in the words of our good friend Rick Manning at Americans for Limited Government – “Drill, Baby. Drill.”
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So typical FITS. He finds the ONE left-like Republican to bash…and unleashes on him….but ignores the wall of Democrats who are 5 times as guilty…who have done ALL the damage…
As stated elsewhere, Campsen is not “left-like” at all.
But thanks for playing. Be sure to pick up the home game on your way out.
WOW, a Republican that actually THINKS, instead of just accepting at face value simpleton concepts like ‘drill, baby drill’.
I am betting not. I bet there is money involved in some way, because that is the only thing a Republicans care about.
Hahaha … So the democrats are so rich they don’t think about it anymore?
Wow! A whole $850 million. That just might pay some of the inflated salary and benefits of some of Nikki’s family and cronies to whom political favors are owed and which cannot be satisfied with free usage of her bearded clam or other orafices. Who cares if our beaches and marine life get destroyed in the process?
Campsen:
“Which portions of South Carolina’s coast would we industrialize? Little River in the tourism mecca of Myrtle Beach; Murrells Inlet; pristine Winyah Bay, surrounded by tens of thousands of acres of protected wildlife refuges; McClellanville, next to Cape Romain National Wildlife Refuge; Daniel Island or James Island in Charleston Harbor; the North or South Edisto Rivers near Seabrook Island or Edisto Beach; St. Helena Sound and the protected ACE Basin ecosystem; Factory Creek in Beaufort, lined by beautiful homes; the Ports Authority property in Port Royal that is finally on the path to redevelopment; Calibogue Sound on the shores of Hilton Head and Daufuskie Island?”
Good question.
Little River is not in Myrtle Beach. It isn’t even in the separate “city” of North Myrtle Beach. Other than that, I agree with what he has to say.
Easy answer:
Myrtle Beach and all the tourist crap in Horry County. K-Mart by the sea is already trashy and seedy. Push all that crap in to the Atlantic and turn it in to industrial support for off-shore drilling. It’s already ugly as hell might as well be useful if it’s going to be ugly. Everything south of the Horry/Georgetown county line is off limits.
I say the exact opposite. Put the stuff on Sullivans Island and the Isle of Palms. Because we know that will never happen unless Republicans are 100% sure of the technology. Anywhere else they will take the risk. Heck for enough money they won’t even ask if there are any risks.
Besides it affects a lot fewer people. All though I admit their combined wealth is probably more than the hundreds of thousands who vacation at Myrtle Beach each year. And I guess in SC that is more important.
Its typical fo the idiot right too go after the areas used by the average guy. Lets protect those pristine areas where the rich and famous want their beach houses, and the Charleston blue bloods. I mean if we can’t do screw the little guy and benefit the wealthy, why the hell did we elect Republicans to run the state..
I’d rather go to Pawley’s, IOP or down to Tybee. Those beaches are beautiful. Myrtle Beach is trashy, tacky and crowded. MYB is what happens when The People of Wal-Mart get their own city. It attracts the personification of useless eaters.
I’d rather go to Pawley’s, IOP or down to Tybee. Those beaches are beautiful. Myrtle Beach is trashy, tacky and crowded. MYB is what happens when The People of Wal-Mart get their own city. It attracts the personification of useless eaters.
Republicans sure of the technology? You must be doing drugs. Republicans must be 100% sure it would line their pockets.
Whew! I’m 80 yards past the line. Thanks for the reprieve!
… And you will only miss it when it is gone …
The rigs would be over the horizon from all of those places and the natural offshore currents will serve as a significant buffer in the event of a spill.
Step away from the API punch bowl: that’s not Kool-Aid in there.
Nothing to do with API, more to do with a semesters worth of sonobouy manhandling thirty years ago. My degree is in Marine Science, we’ve know about the possibility of recoverable oil and gas for years. The potential fields are all well offshore on the continental shelf.
But Colonel, don’t that currents mean a spill would end up on the outerbanks?
Probably not, the difference between the Gulf and the east coast is significant in terms of current and wind patterns. Is it possible a major blow out could soil some east coast beaches – absolutely yes. However, the drilling would be done in far shallower water and the ability to rapidly fix a “blow out” would be far greater. Much of the shelf is shallower than 500 feet – the Deepwater Horizon well was in 5,000 feet of water.
“Probably not?” !!!
How about some odds on that bet? How about you bet the quality of South Carolina to New Jersey beaches against my tin horn and a boatload of taxpayer money? I would win, but, then we both would still have to help with the cleanup.
… but the tar balls washing onto to the beaches would not.
Those natural offshore currents are the Gulf Stream. It is where a whole lot of fish come from.
I’m just saying that it could too easily be an environmental disaster if one of those Taxas Towers blew up in the middle of a significant source of South Carolina food and tourist dollars.
There are so many other places to drill and pump, why do it there?
Our view? We support whatever keeps the lights on at the lowest possible price for consumers. If expanded offshore drilling helps to do that, then in the words of our good friend Rick Manning at Americans for Limited Government – “Drill, Baby. Drill.”
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simple – and dumb.
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Too bad they cant drill in Columbia. It’s already a shithole.
They been there, done that next door in Venezuela. The “progressive” Fascists took over and all of the oil companies got “nationalized”. …
Your SC and NC poli-wogs are behind this nudge from the oil interests that have been cut out of the SD/ND/Montana/Wyoming fields.
Big Oil always looks far to the future, your local yokel greed heads can’t see past their next campaign. Right now Big Oil is just interested in acquiring options to lease, possibly to explore and maybe drill … maybe.
The real deal for those of you interested in having a clean or dirty tourist business should to carefully examine who is in this for the campaign donations, not whether or when the oil business is coming to your state. Big Oil knows that the prices, payola and expenses right now should be rock bottom …
If the SC electorate is going to be stupid and allow the future permits to be issued, now or near term, well, you are not paying attention to your grandchildren’s future.
If you guys want to be in the energy business, you should encourage the construction of natural gas pipelines from the north … Pennsylvania has the largest natural gas fields known in the whole world. The 21st Century will be powered by natural gas in this country.
I believe Godslayer wrote “Columbia”, not “Colombia.”
I stand corrected on that point.
Interesting comments, though.
There is more, but I would be breaking some non-disclosures to relay it here.
We won’t tell.
Suffice to say there is still much more to be found in the heartlands of the USA.
Since that Brazilian offshore field has turned out to be a bust, the offshore explorers have taken a look at several significant possibilities in other parts … No, not the Poles. No, not the US Atlantic seaboard.
While natural gas is a handy thing to have, I would challenge your assertion that it will power the 21st century. The next big leap will be some form of electrical power. We have had natural gas powered vehicles for years, as a fuel source for transportation it is far more precarious than diesel or gas because of the difficulty in loading it and safely carrying it. Propane would actually be a better choice from the tree hugger perspective.
Right on … And if we get both? And doesn’t electricity get generated from natural gas? I’m a big fan of Tesla motors, too.
Ford/Mazda/GM/’Yota/ … are all building higher compression engines = able to burn both gasoline and natural gas including propane and methane.
(Methane, propane, butane come from the same wells, shipped in the same pipes, burn in the same engines.)
If the only way to get more natural gas in the USA is fracking…and, fracking contaminates ground water…and, the glaciers and snow packs are melting totally away and the seasonal freezing/melting cycle that has been replenishing ground water supplies for millions of years is coming to an end…and, it comes down to a choice between natural gas and water – which human beings and other living things actually NEED to live – I predict that at some point even free-market worshippers will realize that clean water is more important than gas…and, anything that comes from fracking will stay in the ground.
There are several non-sequiturs in that response.
1) Fracking has been done for more than 100 years. It used to be called “shooting a well” and was done with dynamite then, water pressure/hammer now.
2) You have every reason to be concerned about water quality. That’s why the explorers / drillers use clean water now … Since the chemicals have been almost entirely removed from the fracking process, there have been no indications of ground water contamination of late, in fact just the opposite.
3) There are US scientists teaching the Chinese how to do fracking. Because the total end result is vastly superior to the way the Chinese have been making energy by burning coal … And the Chinese have a huge air and water quality problem, in which fracking helps immensely.
Yes, clean water IS more important than cheaper fuels … I know I would not participate in an oil field project that did not treat environmental water quality as the most significantly important priority. And my friends in the industry also feel the same.
Hey, we all have to drink the same stuff.
They could drill next to Willie’s house.
The Atlantic isn’t a bathtub like the Gulf of Mexico. Just ask South Carolina’s finest sailor, who took a 66 day trip on the Gulf Stream headed for Ireland. On a capsized boat thru the month of February. Burrrr!
Onshore infrastructure is something to think about.
Why? If you don’t drill you don’t need that.
BETTER HEADLINE: “Writer” in SC Pens Story About Republican Senator Opposing Offshore Drilling
First of all, the “surveys” were commissioned by the American Petroleum Institute and did not ask whether those polled were in favor of drilling off their own state’s shore. Registered voters were polled statewide, not just those who would be at risk of loss or damage from drilling accidents.
The “report” forecasting all those jobs was also commissioned by API, and many of the assumptions about the recoverable reserves and the rate of drilling new wells was wildly overstated. Somehow, I doubt there are many unemployed “roughnecks” in South Carolina. Those who may be employed offshore will pay no income taxes to SC, nor will they likely live and spend their good paychecks here, but take their on-shore time at home — wherever that may be.
There is no revenue or royalty sharing. There has been some limited funds granted to some Gulf Coast areas as mitigation for the damage caused by Deepwater Horizon, but those payments are not in the FY 2016 budget.
Nevertheless, many who do not care about damage to the tourism economy as long as they can “keep the lights on at the lowest possible price” have fallen for this propaganda.
Well, the oil boon is now a bust in N. Dakota. Shit be tankin’…
Mostly because we’re drilling there.
The search, discoveries, drilling, pumping are highly competitive amongst the Major Oil companies. The PR smoke and mirrors, likewise.
It’s just common sense. Florida doesn’t allow offshore drilling. With our focus on tourism, we’re more like Florida than Texas or Louisiana.
Campsen owns / manages huge tracts of land in the ACE basin area and all he cares about is protecting his interests. Maybe we should drain the damn ACE basin, fill it and build oil infrastructure there. They’ve been talking about the ACE basin for 20+ years and I think I’m tired of hearing about it. Clear cut it, pave it and put up a parking lot or a landfill.
Clear cut it, pave it and put up a parking lot…
Joni Mitchell on line one…
Yes? … Joni Mitchell Big Yellow Taxi: https://youtu.be/xWwUJH70ubM
The ACE Basin is primarily marsh, wetlands and rivers. You’d be “filing it” for the rest of your life and still not have much usable land. It’s great for fishing, hunting, paddling and just mucking about but not really useful for much else. Even clear cutting it, while possible, would end in disaster as it provides a natural settlement basin for the low country.
I believe a large portion of the ACE Basin has been placed in a conservation easement, has it not?
The vast majority of it is protected by easements of one kind or another, the Hollings wildlife refuge is 18 square miles by itself
Now, if they will outlaw GOLF on Edisto!
Here’s Jimmy Buffett’s take on the whole issue, great song… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4znyqGIWH8
Oh, I know. I’ve been there. I was in a smart ass mood earlier.
I was sure you had, but not everyone else has or could even identify the area of the state or the rivers involved.
Don’t be bringin’ no smart-ass moods all up in heah, now.
No, wait. If we all stopped doing that, these comments wouldn’t even be worth reading.
And you probably wouldn’t be commenting. I am guessing you are having a shitty day – let’s chalk it up as that. We all have them.
I am a strong advocate of government financed hormonal/breathalyzer/ medication and whatever else the hell they can come up with before we sign online and say shit we regret.
There is about one week out of the month you can bank on me being a bitch. Men have the same issue, but…..different.
It’s all good. At least nature I think.
In other words, it IS useful as a vital part of the ecosystem. Got it.
Unequivocally.
Problem is, though, that the majority of the idiots making decisions on this think that words like “ecosystem” are some kind of commie code talk. They listen to Big Yellow Taxi, to the lines about paving paradise, and say “So what, if there’s a profit in it?”
They are Feringis, but not nearly as smart.
Buz, I am convinced people don’t respond to you all the time because we have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Could you say it simply?
“hey listen to Big Yellow Taxi, to the lines about paving paradise, and say “So what, if there’s a profit in it?” They are Feringis, but not nearly as smart.”
You just aren’t pop-culture saturated and nerdy enough. Big Yellow Taxi is a hit song by Joni Mitchell, with the memorable lines …
“They pave Paradise, and put up a parking lot,
With a big hotel,
…
They took all the trees, and put ’em in tree museum,
And charged the people a dollar and a half just to see ’em.
Oh, it only goes to show, you don’t know what you’ve got ’til it’s gone
They paved Paradise, and put up a parking lot.”
The ongoing saga of Myrtle Beach, in other words.
The Feringi are a butt-ugly humanoid race in the Star Trek universe, first introduced in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
They are uber-capitalists. The live by the Laws of Acquisition, a seemingly endless list of essential aphorisms, most of them first uttered by Quark, the Feringi bartender in ST:DSN. Here are some of them:
1Once you have their money, you never give it back.DS9: “The Nagus”, “Heart of Stone”3Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to.DS9: “The Maquis, Part II”6Never allow family to stand in the way of opportunity.[1]DS9: “The Nagus”; ENT: “Acquisition”7Keep your ears open and your eyes on the mark.DS9: “In the Hands of the Prophets”9Opportunity plus instinct equals profit.DS9: “The Storyteller”10Greed is eternal.DS9: “Prophet Motive”; VOY: “False Profits”16A deal is a deal.[2]DS9: “Melora”17A contract is a contract is a contract… but only between Ferengi.DS9: “Body Parts”18A Ferengi without profit is no Ferengi at all.DS9: “Heart of Stone”; DS9: “Ferengi Love Songs”21Never place friendship above profit.DS9: “Rules of Acquisition”22A wise man can hear profit in the wind.DS9: “Rules of Acquisition”; VOY: “False Profits”23Nothing is more important than your health… except for your money.ENT: “Acquisition”31Never make fun of a Ferengi’s mother.[3]DS9: “The Siege”33It never hurts to suck up to the boss.[4]DS9: “Rules of Acquisition”, “The Dogs of War”34War is good for business[5]DS9: “Destiny”, “The Siege of AR-558″35Peace is good for business.[6]TNG: “The Perfect Mate”; DS9: “Destiny”45Expand or die.[7]ENT: “Acquisition”; VOY: “False Profits”47Never trust a man wearing a better suit than your own.DS9: “Rivals”48The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife.DS9: “Rules of Acquisition”
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Rules_of_Acquisition
BYT written by the beautiful talented Melanie Safka, who also wrote Jig Saw by the Rolling Stones and What Have they Done to My Song Ma? Sorry, I’m a child of the 60s.
hey – where the heck are you? Don’t give us some story about bad health and then not post for 2 days. Even your pop grows on us :)
I love the fact that you apparently can’t get enough of me. Heh.
No, wait. Am I responding to a deleted comment?
Like I said. Heh.
I’ve had some FITS fatigue. It happens.
Never get tired of you, though …
“If only.”
Campsen is a right wing prick that makes his living off of federal, no bid contracts. He would starve a single mom and kids to death, but he damn sure is going to get his millions!
While I do agree with him on this issue, in regard to what you’re saying: Follow the money trail on any given right-wing prick in SC and you will find ties to federal no-bid contracts, plus self-righteous “patriots” who pretend to be all about free markets, but siphon off as much as they can from the fed g — in addition to being funded by the assholes who live off of corporate welfare but pretend to hate government in general.
A pretty good summation of todays Republican Party.
You can figure this out with a maratime map of the affluent coast.
Rigs and support shore structures MUST NOT be visible or smell-able from Kiawah, Isle of Palms Seabrook, Hilton Head.
However, off shore platforms MUST be within the limits of a comfortable run in that Center console for a day of fishing in the “STREAM”.
YOU BETCHA!!!!!!!!!
I can see Erhardt from my house!
It’s like the Kennedy thing. Wind energy, fine, get the taxpayers to foot the bill — but NIBY. Or rather, NIFY, in their case.
Big Oil = crony capitalism and corrupt corporatism writ large. Like on a global scale. Nobody else greases the palms of more pols and dictators, and gets more corporate welfare from various states than them. Just a fact.
Just don’t get it, Will. Why even pretend to be against crony capitalism and governments picking winners and losers in the marketplace, if you are for letting them have anything they want?
Unless you walk or bike everywhere you go…you might better STFU…You’re showing what an ignorant Dumb@$$ you are….
Ah, how sweet. You’re defending Will’s honor.
No, just pointing out how ridiculous you, and the many like you, are.
You just want to say something in line w/ the common liberal theme…no matter how ignorant it is…
Theme, shmeme. No party or ideology rules my mind. I love my home, my ancestral stomping grounds. Everything that is fucked up about it now is due to letting corporate greed-heads have their way. You don’t live here, bub, so shut the fuck up!
You HATE job-creators and producers because the liberals tell you to HATE…They are greedy and get rich by suing contributors…to support ignorant lazy, leftwing TAKERS like you…
The people who do the most raping of the land, water and air in these parts create mainly extrmely low-paying jobs, and far too many of those go to illegal aliens. I take nothing that I did not work for. Your opinions of me are the very definition of ignorance.
… One is amazed by the cheapness of our gringo politicians… The Arabs have been buying them in wholesale lots for decades. (Hillary got her’s just lately … and there is email to prove it.)
The single reason that the party in power is against the Keystone pipeline is that the Canadians refuse to pay them off. Oh Bummer.
Sounds about right.
We know Columbia and Lexington are shitholes. Why potentially wish that on the coast?
No you “support” whatever Big Business wants.
Besides,Republicans have always had a soft spot for Big oil,even supporting the convicted criminals at BP.
And one things for sure,you are a REPUBLICAN,uh”””” and all!
1. If $3 Billion a year is ALL that SC would get out of off-shore drilling, it probably is not worth the risks of spills from companies that just don’t care about the messes they have made around and globe and will not care about here.
2. The “Republican” quotes have long outlived their cute. Someone who claims to be ‘through with the Republican Party’, who is a bought and paid for Koch Libertarian, simple does not have the right to define the acceptable ideological parameters for any party other than their own. Grow the fuck up.
Wow, “..If $3 Billion a year is ALL that SC would get out of off-shore drilling…” Really, what could we do with an paltry extra $3 billion? Roads, bridges, schools, infrastructure, jobs…
Yeah Riiiight!
Are you paying attention to Louisiana?
But, Colonel! That assumes that the poli-wogs get to control all that swag … There are a number of other threads here @ FITs that indicate your local yokels skim massive amounts of taxpayer revenue … So how much of that $3 Billion will actually get spent properly?
The far East has held America captive to oil for the last 40 years. We need to control our oil exploration if we have as much as they say. Two reasons,keep the price up to a certain point and keep enough open to us so we will never be held captive again!
IMO letting Adam Smith’s Invisible Hand remain on the throttle rather than a Central Planning Comittee stuffed with poli-wogs will turn out way better.
Supply and Demand are doing just fine without the benefit of some one else’s “control”. We got cheaper fuel right now, we got the makings of a better private sector economy right now, Big Oil has stopped drilling for the time being, tax revenue for Gruberment is at an all time high right now … What’s not to like?
I know I have some money in the bank. That doesn’t mean I have to take it out and spend it right now. I know I am going to need some later. And it may be for more important uses.
Not to mention, (though I will), at today’s rate of consumption, if the total available were put on line and used exclusively, it will be used up completely in less than 2 years, and would not significantly lower the price of oil.
Also, not to be completely intransigent, it should be mentioned that oil is fungible, and in order to control the price of oil, it would be necessary to socialize all of the oil companies, and put them under the control of a single entity.
Roughly 60% of the oil US consumes is produced in the US. Imagine that!
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_sum_snd_d_nus_mbbl_a_cur.htm
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I can’t.
Using the same source you did, without all the number crunching:
“In 2014, about 27% of the petroleum consumed by the United States was imported from foreign countries,1 the lowest level since 1985.
Petroleum includes crude oil and petroleum products. Petroleum products include gasoline, diesel fuel, heating oil, jet fuel, chemical feedstocks, asphalt, biofuels (ethanol and biodiesel), and other products. In 2014, about 44% of the crude oil processed in U.S. refineries was imported.”
http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=32&t=6
73% I can imagine. 60% I can’t. :)
I should have used the word Petroleum, that would have been more accurate. Not sure where you come up with 73%? I have other sources, but you will only dispute them based on reference, so I tried to use yours.
You might also note on your source, if you really dig, we have much longer longevity in our ability to use up resources. It is my opinion, that we will find alternative energy long before resources dry up and no one even knows for sure what that time frame is.
Rockefeller the oil mogul consistently found new ways to use petroleum, thus we now have petroleum jelly ;)
27 + 73 = 100
yeah yeah yeah – started to say this earlier, but refrained. Thanks SMART ass….lol. In all fairness that includes ALL petroleum. Not oil. There are other charts that show oil, without exporting into a spreadsheet and trying to determine what the categories are.
A right wing nut won’t look at that, but someone who is looking for the truth will. Data can be massaged, no doubt about it. But….other countries are watching the data too, so I am sure we could bounce off their sites.
Everything I have read, we are producing at least 60% of what we use. We buy a very small portion from the Middle East. Many people think we go to war for oil, they are our major suppliers – not so much the case today, based on what I read.
Euwe, I almost pulled out your “Screw You” song today…LMAO.
Awww….I see what you are saying :)
I am your drill baby drill, but unlike some on both sides, I think that drilling does require responsibility. Let’s just talk pure libertarian philosophy for sake of real opinions.
The earth rotates on a 24 hour axis, so to think that we can utilize sources from another country will not affect us is just plain – ridiculous. However, if we are going to drill, we don’t need another spill to clean up and kill ocean life.
There is a happy middle ground – drill baby drill, but be responsible, a good custodian of nature.
They ain’t no Gentlemen Gems (to quote Dylan) with a shot at winning the NCAA..and the media his crapping itself. The mighty status quo Ky. went down…and the left is IMPLODING at the Hills teaming with WHITE elephants…
NCAA history being made – replete with racial slur by the offender FITS kisses the @$$ of…and FITS got his head buried up his ……
Typical punch-drunk left-type Liberal-Tarian….LMAO…Dumb@$$…
trading canadians in speedos for beer drinking roughnecks and more hookers sounds like a good deal for Fertile Myrtle.
Charleston – Beaufort maybe not.
As long as they allow fisherman and divers to treat offshore wells as artificial reefs. None of this restricted zones. I bet you that theres amazing fishing around the wells with all that structure. and if for some reason its dangerous to eat those fish, then maybe we shouldnt be drilling