Taylor Brown: Defending Greek Life
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How do actual Greeks feel about the cultural appropriation of their identity as a nationality? I’ll bet a lot of them are downright pissed about it these days.
Just a little provocation to get the conversation going.
“How do actual Greeks feel about the cultural appropriation of their identity as a nationality?”
Who knows, but how can you resist the characterization when every time these Greek bred “leaders” end up doing their Greek thing on your rear every year around tax time?
I was not going to go there …
I have nothing but admiration for the Greek people.
Their ancient art is something to behold:
http://www.utexas.edu/courses/gciv/images/herosexualsex.jpg
I once bedded a greek gal named Vasliki, pretty sure that’s about as common in Greece as Donna is here. She had naturally blond hair on her head, but dark eyebrows and landing strip. Yet another fascinating thing about Greeks #rugdontalwaysmatchthecurtains
My daughter and her boyfriend had plans to buy a resort in the Greek islands. I volunteered to quit my raucous lifestyle and become the maintenance guy. Both plans went bust….
But they’re damn good cooks and the Mediterranean Diet is touted as the best way to go for healthy eating!!!!!!!!!!
When I was stationed on a Greek island we did not fool around with any of their women or daughters. The culture did not allow for it. Foreigners such as British, Spanish, etc was our playground.
I got stationed there too. Real Greek are cool until you try to get some pooty.
Old Joke:
Turn her over, stupid….
Short story– Met Vasoula, a girl scout leader, hot body, beautiful face. Finally got an invite to home where family met. Talk, eat delicacies, gab, chit-chat. Real date to go to a movie– two taxis, entire family, me at one end and Vasoula at other. Love could not blossom…
ha ha that is great 2 taxis? After one date your dam broke because of family.
A dowry was important to the family. One of the girls at the embassy invited me to her wedding. It was held in the most important orthodox church and was presided over by the church leader (like a pope?). The reception was held at her parents home — many high level folks such as ambassadors and folks such as that. I was a Petty Officer 2nd, but I was invited to her wedding because she and I joked around at the US Embassy where she worked. Here’s the kicker– do you know the movie “My Big Fat Greek Wedding”? ( I thought you would. ) Her dowry was a new home, completely furnished, a new VW Bug for her husband, and an undisclosed amount of cash. Her new home was next door to her parents on their lot! Just think about it — no mortgage or car payments! All her husband had to worry about was teaching during the day and producing grand-kiddies at night. I loved it..!!
edit: when i worked at the jack shack as a booth cleaner, these Spanish Migrate Camps would come in and….. well it was a playground for me.
“Sexual assault is always wrong” “Same goes for racism”
This is the kind of nuanced, hard hitting journalism I come here for.
“The truth is fraternities and sororities breed leaders.”
“Fraternity men make up 85 percent of U.S. Supreme Court justices since 1910, 63 percent of all U.S. presidential cabinet members since 1900, and, historically, 76 percent of U.S. Senators”
…and look how well they’ve done for the country!
“Fraternity men make up 85 percent of U.S. Supreme Court justices since 1910, 63 percent of all U.S. presidential cabinet members since 1900, and, historically, 76 percent of U.S. Senators”
Not exactly a feather in the Greek Life cap. Our courts and political system is a fucking mess. Thanks Greek Life.
SCOTUS may fuck up from time to time but at least they never lose at beer pong.
I bet Darth Vader Ginsberg, Keegan and Sotomayor…were some of the biggest tools in their fraternities…LMAO…
Says Flounder.
Your depth of reference so identifies your level of intelligence….
Yeah, and yours was so witty. We already know what kind of partier Clarence Thomas was…and here’s a tip…he wouldn’t want you as a wing man. You couldn’t fit in then and you can’t now, failed “blogger.”
Bore…
Fraternities and Sororities don’t breed leaders. Young people with a political bent are attracted to the organizations by nature.
Let’s not fool ourselves, young people with a political “bent” are typically from families up to their necks in politics. So they’re legacy stock in both the Greek Life and the political arena.
That does tend to be true. However the majority of pp in the SC politics are not from Political families. ie: Mia McLeod, Nikki Haley, Jay Lucas, Jim Clyburn, Lindsay Graham, Tim Scott…
So stop it with the class envy- it makes you sound like a girl!
LOL, class envy, if you only knew what you were talking about. You start by agreeing with what I said and then call me names at the end. Have you taken your “Mommy’s little helper” today? You sound a little unstable.
Can’t the respectable men and women who want to raise money for charity do so without associating themselves with racist, drunken redneck teenagers blowing daddy’s money? I’m sure they can. People who have never stepped foot in a university raise money for charities all the time.
By that same token, won’t the racist, drunken redneck teenagers still be in college and drinking themselves unconscious?
I think the answer is that people make subcultures and groups within groups. That’s what the Masons were about and that’s where Greek life came from. Universities are too big for everyone to be part of one big group. You can’t make exclusive sects go away; but you can bring them into the light and regulate them. Now, as to whether Universities should create a giant subdivision in downtown Columbia for Greek life and exclude the rest of the campus? I think that’s a little weird.
#GreekLivesMatter
#CollarPoppedDontPuke
#PinkPoloBoatShoes
Did you hear they came out with a new shoes for lesbians ?
They’re called Dikes. They have an extra long tongue and only take one finger to get off!
Is that pronounced Dike-ease?
You do know that Liberals don’t care at all about logic, reality or your opinion…
They ATTACK all that is normal, and all that they hate…based on their politics of race-hate, gender, sexuality and class…
And their level of success is determined by the number of idiots they can get to blindly follow them…And the population where liberals are most successful, is on the college campus, where inexperienced dolts are made to feel unique and special by following the common ignorance and tired clichés of the American leftist movement…
What could you possibly know about what is normal?
Quit trying to piggy-back on an original and insightful thought…
“As a Zeta Tau Alpha at Wofford College (Theta Zeta Chapter), my sorority raised over $30,000 my senior year.”
I remember that… wasn’t that $1 blowjob week at the ZTA house?
For every chapter that grabs negative headlines, there are many more that don’t and that do positive things that aren’t sensational enough to make headlines.
Hazing, racism, sexual assault, etc. are not just restricted to Greek college students. Many non-Greek students engage in those same negative behaviors. But they don’t have a specific name or label they can be broad-stroked with.
It really is quite simple. If you find a bad apple, toss it out. Don’t penalize the ones that aren’t.
The tie in with politicians is no big surprise. Greeks life & politics are both exclusive clubs for the privileged.
Rich daddy network.
College, in and of itself, is also for the privileged.
I respectfully disagree.
Well, first of all, only those with good grades and SAT scores can get in. That separates the smart kids from the dumb kids. Next, if your ‘rents don’t have the money for tuition, you must qualify for a loan. Oh, and how are you going to pay for basic necessities in addition to tuition.
Student loans, scholarships & jobs cover basic necessities. I went to college with a lot of kids from lower income families.
There’s no comparison. Your average college student is no where NEAR as privileged as your average Greek. Not even close.
You work. I know…a foreign concept to some. A lot of people WORK to get through school. And people who are forced to work during college, generally, have better grades, and take it more seriously.
I know I did.
Most ridiculous post of the day.
Greek life is for people who don’t want unique personalty traits and act like dorks. It may help them get into the good ol’ boy network, but that’s the only benefit I can see.
These crackers look like they come off an assembly line: http://www.sethroselife.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/frattr-300×225.jpg
Greek in the ear hole would be good for u and your boss!!!
I too was a greek when in college. Look, some do a lot of good for the community. But, just being honest. I did it for the fun and to party. Sororities are not bad for the most part. But, there are a lot of fraternities that are just out of control. Not all, but if they say they do not haze, that is bs! Some worse than others. Anytime you get a group of 18 – 22 year old young men, drinking, you are asking for trouble, for the most part.
Let’s note we are not hearing about hazing, racism and sexual assault in the sororities. Being in a fraternity, by nature, gives access to plenty of alcohol which is nothing new. What IS new is the drugs – pills and cocaine – not just weed. The National Fraternal Council needs to get a handle on this NOW.
Perhaps you can explain why the young man was found dead under the bridge last semester here in Clemson. How could this young lad, one who was well loved by friends and family, get suckered into joining an organization whose members very likely left him dead in the water?
I hadn’t planned to send any of my children to Wofford and if the critical thinking displayed in this piece is representative of Wofford grads it seems I’ve made a smart decision.
Two fellows who hadn’t seen in other in months met on the street. One asks, “By the way, where is your wife?”
The other says, “Right now she is in bed with laryngitis.”
His friend replies, ” Damn! Is that Greek back in town?”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Andreas had arrived in America and on his first day was walking down Main Street seeing the sights when two men approached him and asked, “Would you like to become a Jehovah’s Witness?”
Andreas replied, “I am sorry, but I really can’t. I didn’t see the accident.”
I am sick of hearing about all the good things for charity that the Greeks do, because to me that is part of the problem. It is like they do the charity stuff seeing it as a get out of jail free card. I don’t care how much money you raise for charity as a group, that doesn’t have anything to do with the horrible things.
Ten sororities (one of whom has over 150 chapters) and they only raised $5 million? Not that impressive.
Are we trying to figure out how much charity money needs to be raised to offset the life of a dead person? Because if people are dying at your sorority/fraternity, there is something terribly wrong that needs to be fixed that good deeds cannot undo.
Let’s break this down three ways.
“… members of the Greek life system typically boast higher grade point
averages (GPAs) than non-Greeks. Why? Because members are put on
academic probation if they fall below the required GPA. This makes the
school look better, as well as helps Greeks find jobs after graduation.”
First, it leaves out the test and report files greek orgs keep on tap to “help” members pass tests and “write” reports. Not all do it, but some certainly do.
Second, in the last sentence, the word “this” takes as an antecedent the phrase immediately preceding it.
So your argument, to recast, is that to make the school look better and to help greeks find work, members are put on academic probation.
I don’t think that is what you meant.
Or what you might have been taught.
It is stunning that all of the deaths, rapes, and drunken misconduct is only relevant when it happens in a fraternity. Do people not realize that these problems are no worse in the Greek world than in the general population? They are just publicized more.
Pretty convinced that someone in the Bilderberg group has recently decided to outlaw Greek life. This is how it starts…with completely disproportionate media coverage. Kind of like ten years ago when they decided we need more homosexuals. Since 2005 it seems a television show cannot be financed unless it has a comedi, flaming homosexual character.
this anti greek movement is an attack on “1%ers.”
There’s a lot of sour grapes on this comment thread. Some folks still upset they didn’t get a bid?!
And their mixers are just the BOMB!