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Squishy123 March 19, 2015 at 7:25 pm

So drugs and alcohol offed Biff/Chip/Trip/Tre/Scooter.

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Guest March 19, 2015 at 7:27 pm

no no no

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guest March 19, 2015 at 7:41 pm

Fraternities are almost untouchable since their members are major donors in particular to the athletics department at USC. Presidents like Pastides will bend backwards as much as they can to not “offend” any local politician and/or donor. Administrators who want to regulate will not get the support they need and will take the ‘heat’ for their actions.

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The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 8:58 pm

Three chapters have been kicked off campus this academic year.

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guest March 19, 2015 at 11:22 pm

and if you would factor in the involuntary sex acts and rape, underage drinking, extensive drug use and racist rants more should be closed down. A death is the tip of the iceberg.

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Guest March 20, 2015 at 12:22 am

Has pi kappa alpha at USC had any rape allegations?

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The Great Googily Moogily March 20, 2015 at 8:53 am

But pike is who holds the real purse strings, their alumni association is major athletic boosters. a girl got raped while i was in school at the pike house, they president of the school declared that they were getting their charter revoked. the next day over half of the athletic department pledged donations got pulled and pike was absolved of all wrong doings

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The Colonel March 20, 2015 at 8:56 am

Might happen at a small school – wouldn’t happen at a D-1. Fraternities are no where near as big a deal as they once were.

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Pink alligator shirt March 19, 2015 at 7:51 pm

Next party:

“Shots from boatshoes.”

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shifty henry March 19, 2015 at 8:03 pm

T-Rav didn’t send me an invitation…

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funtimes March 19, 2015 at 10:45 pm

So Squish, rush was a lonely time for you? I’m guessing geek, blaming your social failure on the “popular” kids. Better looking, more money, cooler, etc. Still bitter after all these years.

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Squishy123 March 20, 2015 at 1:25 pm

So how did you feel participating in your first elephant walk. Was it more awkward grabbing onto the dick of the guy behind you or having the guy in front of you grab yours? Did you find it arousing?

Is a frat like a biker gang? But instead of a full rocker you get the okay to wear pastels?

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guest March 19, 2015 at 11:58 pm

For those of you who think there is no connection between Xanax, alcohol and fraternities:

14 of May 2011:
Wilson Forrester, 19, the son of Tennessee Democratic Party chairman Chip Forrester, was found dead at the Phi Gamma Delta House last month.

According to a post-mortem, he had taken a combination of painkillers, anti-anxiety drug Xanax and alcohol which together proved lethal.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1385161/Wilson-Forrester-overdosed-alcohol-sedatives.html#ixzz3UxBCeavc
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BLOOMINGTON, Ind. (March 5, 2015)– An Indiana University student was arrested for buying a large amount of drugs and dealing from inside his fraternity house. Andrew Thrall, 20, faces a felony charge of dealing a controlled substance.

IU police say Thrall would buy Xanax online and then sell it from the Delta Tau Delta house in Bloomington. They had been investigating Thrall’s activities for months.

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/533975-Mixing-Xanax-with-Alcohol

Alright,

I’m new here and to be frank, I probably won’t be posting very often. I just have a question and every time I bring it up on Yahoo Answers, a bunch of self-righteous douche bags start judging me. So I figure this is a better forum to ask.

So here’s the breakdown. Sorry to be bore you with the story. I’m prescribed to Xanax… 0.5 mgs… It’s not an everyday thing, mostly just for when I get in anxious situations. So my fraternities formal function is this Saturday and I got randomly setup with my date, something I’ve never dealt with before. So I’m trying to just be relaxed and not tense about everything. Of course, being the event it is, I’m going to be drinking… a lot.

Me and my friends are all getting dinner first with our dates, so my plan was to take it before dinner, be and a nice relaxed mode, then a couple hours later, start drinking for the pre-game.

So my questions are simple:
-Will taking it before dinner have pretty minimal impact with the alcohol I’ll be drinking a couple hours late (Let’s say I take the pill at 5:30, I won’t start drinking until like… 8ish)
-If I didn’t take it before dinner and just chose to take it before drinking? How would that react? Would it be best for me to take it X amount of minutes of hours before drinking?
-Thoughts on taking one before dinner AND before drinking. At least some amount.
-Should I maybe just split it in half and take 0.25 mg?

I’m sorry, this is a really long post and is kind of just here to serve my own personal gain. I’m just looking out for myself. As you can tell, I don’t really dabble in this kind of stuff (I smoke a good amount of weed, am prescribed to adderall and Xanax, but that’s it)

So any help would be appreciated.

Oh, and how would Adderall mix? Would it help my confidence? What would it do? I’m prescribed 10 mg non XR and 20 mg XR.

Any advice would be appreciated.

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perry March 20, 2015 at 12:02 am

In a state where random drug testing of welfare recipients is discussed how about random drug testing during university classes? Athletes have to go through drug testing why not students who get scholarships? what’s the difference?

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The Colonel March 20, 2015 at 8:57 am

Works for me. Are you asserting this young man was on some kind of scholarship?

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Florist Glump March 20, 2015 at 3:09 am

I sense that you are sincere about trying to keep yourself alive. Given that, it would probably be best to print out your post and show it to an MD who could evaluate your height and weight and metabolism as it relates to when and how much of these meds to take.

I think you probably know that an MD would advise you very carefully. I also know you’re probably *not* going to talk to an MD about this because you know he/she is likely to tell you that you should just leave the “lots of drinking” out of the equation.

My advice to you in the absence of professional medical advice would be to *pace* your drinking severely. Maybe just sip and drink at the rate of one beer/drink an hour and stay on your feet. Eat food.

If you’re not willing to limit your drinking to such a degree, you might not be alive the next day.

Your call. Come back here and post if you made it through alive.

I’m not BSing you.

Definitely don’t drive.

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guest2 March 20, 2015 at 5:06 pm

Xanax is a benzodiazepine and will suppress your central nervous system.

Alcohol is a depressant and will also suppress your CNS.

Adderall is an amphetamine, really just legal speed and will stimulate your CNS.

Research the drugs you take man, come on. The most dangerous interaction would be with the benzos and alcohol. Take any fair amount of benzos and drink heavy= blackout. Xanax is a fast acting benzo with a short half-life, which means it affects you quickly but also begins to fade in four hours or so. Never take benzos sporadically throughout a night of drinking because you will have an amnesia effect and not remember how much you have taken, leading to potentially taking way too much.

Bottom line: Give your body a good twelve hours to get rid of any xanax and don’t take anymore before or while drinking. If you must, have a couple drinks before dinner as a substitute.

The mixture of benzos and alcohol is dangerous enough. The young man who passed away was possibly taking(according to this article) xanax(benzo), painkiller(opiate), and drinking. That is an overdose waiting to happen. That combination frequently results in OD.

Ive gotta ask, why the hell would you be taking adderrall and xanax? If you truly have ADHD then the stimulant would actually calm you. If not it would just be like speed. Sounds like you’ve got a horrible GP if he is prescribing adderall and giving you xanax to take the “edge” off.
Perhaps that is not the case and you do take it occasionally.

Benzos can be nearly impossible to get off of after extended use, but most doctors wont tell you that because they aren’t benzo literate. Google Dr. Heather Ashton in the U.K. if you really want to understand benzo effects, addiction, etc.

Someone with your pharmaceutical regime shouldn’t be drinking, period.

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GrandTango March 20, 2015 at 5:26 am

White lives matter…you insensitive @$$-hole…These are somebody’s children…

You liberals have been drilled on the idea that Hate is noble, if it’s directed at people you don’t think of as followers of your ignorance-based political ideology…

You and Hitler have that in common…

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Squishy123 March 20, 2015 at 9:43 am

It’s a shame that yours doesn’t. You could disappear tomorrow and not one person here would go out of their way to try and find you.

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GrandTango March 20, 2015 at 10:14 am

Oh, I’m sure you’d LOVE for me to die, or you’d kill me if you could get away with it. That’s what type of individual I’m sure you are…..

People who are misguided, or based in hate, would ALWAYS rather eliminate those who adhere to morality, instead of straighten up. Corruption is all-consuming for people like you. I’m not surprised of your feelings toward me. In fact, I expect it.

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Squishy123 March 20, 2015 at 10:56 am

Has anyone ever called you a drama queen?

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GrandTango March 20, 2015 at 11:29 am

Again: when you make light of people’s dead children, because you hate based on politics and race…expect to get called out…at least by me…

I think the media has so isolated people like you, that you will publically delight in death for working white people…

People like you are immune from the knowledge of how ugly and callous you are…all the while, wrapping yourself in a cloak of compassion…because the media and the DNC tells you so…

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You're a Drama Queen March 20, 2015 at 12:04 pm

A simple “yes” would have sufficed.

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GrandTango March 20, 2015 at 12:17 pm

No doubt…
I bet you S#!t all over yourself when I called you out again, for celebrating in the death of children, because they come from families you hate…

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You're a Drama Queen March 20, 2015 at 12:38 pm

You got all that from my post? Adjust the meds, and the tin foil hat, you should be good.

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GrandTango March 20, 2015 at 1:01 pm

It’s not like you’re going to admit who, and what, you are…LMAO…

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Squishy123 March 20, 2015 at 1:22 pm

Pot, meet Kettle.

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You're a Drama Queen March 20, 2015 at 1:32 pm

Of course it’s a terrible thing this kid died, don’t be such an asshat. Starting off with a jackass statement like “White lives matter” and ending with a Hitler reference proves what you are: a demented, hateful bigot pretending to care about human life. I apologize to drama queens everywhere.

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GrandTango March 20, 2015 at 3:14 pm

Squishy…I busted your @$$…changing handles, and trying to pull your pants up…ain’t workin’…it’s too late. Everybody sees who, and what, you are…

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Squishy123 March 20, 2015 at 3:17 pm

Unlike you, I stick with one handle. I do realize that it’s difficult for you to understand that there may be more than one person in this world who doesn’t agree with you.

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GrandTango March 20, 2015 at 3:24 pm

Sure you do…like a stranger is going to argue in your favor, after you bashed dead kids…based on your liberal hate and class warfare ignorance… Sure, buddy, sure…

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Who And Twat You Are March 20, 2015 at 3:50 pm

Right on, “Emily”.

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Who And Twat You Are March 20, 2015 at 3:49 pm

We’all so glad you wear it on your sleave…

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shifty henry March 19, 2015 at 8:06 pm

Sad. But it seems to me that at these parties recently reported that guys are just left alone apparently asleep. The” Big Brothers” should be looking after the “Little Brothers.”

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The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 8:59 pm

This was the “big bother’s” party

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shifty henry March 20, 2015 at 12:33 am

or else — “I can’t be bothered”

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euwe max March 20, 2015 at 2:03 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iypUpv9xelg

I was struck by lightning, walking down the street.

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Tangerine March 19, 2015 at 9:38 pm

Years ago an older gentleman sent me an interesting article, based on how and why male insurance rates are higher than females. I found it interesting, there is a part of the male brain that does not fully mature until around age 25, that part of the brain that allows them to assess risks vs. danger.

Very sad.

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shifty henry March 20, 2015 at 12:32 am

I guess that explains the difference between a man and a government bond —- the bond eventually will mature.

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euwe max March 20, 2015 at 2:01 am

a man
—–
a Republican

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euwe max March 20, 2015 at 2:01 am

there is a part of the male brain that does not fully mature until around age 25,

——
in Republicans, that part doesn’t even exist.

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lulz March 20, 2015 at 8:27 am

lol….+1 for funny! (even if not 100% true)

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GrandTango March 19, 2015 at 8:27 pm

FITS is the classic Liberal-tarian. And just like liberals…you demand all kinds of alleged rights. ..but as soon as something goes bad…you have NO individual responsibility. …and you’re looking to blame anybody and everybody else…

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MJ March 20, 2015 at 5:54 am

very well said

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Anon March 20, 2015 at 12:21 am

Toxicology reports take longer than 12 hours

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mamatiger92 March 20, 2015 at 10:25 am

That’s exactly what I was thinking. How do they have toxicology results already?

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euwe max March 20, 2015 at 2:00 am

let’s see.. war… fraternities….

war… fraternities…

let’s focus on fraternities! Keep our priorities in order… and death in perspective.

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Nat March 20, 2015 at 6:42 am

When the issue is a death of a young man, post demonstrating jealous, class warfare, etc, simply have o place. There are larger issues here, and to try to make small points is simple minded

I don’t care abut fraternities or anything else mentioned in these comments except the pain and suffering of this young man and his friends and family.

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The Great Googily Moogily March 20, 2015 at 8:48 am

“Ethanal”

[sic] Willy, do you mean ethanol?

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The Great Googily Moogily March 20, 2015 at 8:53 am

was the house the property of a prominent trial lawyer who has strong ties to politicians

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Atwater's poltergeist March 20, 2015 at 11:01 am

in the day when the Golden Spur in Russell House offered draft by the pitcher and the drinking age for brew and vino was 18, we don’t seem to have had these issues to as great an extent. Maybe we need to return to 18, old enough old to die for your country, old enough to learn to drink responsibly.

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USC grad March 20, 2015 at 11:11 am

Horrible for the family and this young man.

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josh March 24, 2015 at 10:54 pm

expect a lawsuit for slander shortly.

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