… THEY’RE BUYING THE HYPE
|| By FITSNEWS || Never mind that shrinking workforce … or those stagnant income levels … or that sluggish retail economy.
Americans pulled a “Stuart Smalley” on the latest consumer confidence reading from the Thomson-Reuters University of Michigan (Go Blue!). This key index printed at 98.2 in January – blowing past expectations of a 94.1 reading. That’s the highest level of consumer confidence recorded in more than a decade – and the biggest expectations “beat” in nearly two years.
So while consumers aren’t spending … they’re clearing buying the hype that the U.S. economy is on the mend.
The last time U.S. consumers were in such a good mood? February 2004 …
“Gains in employment and incomes as well as declines in gas prices were cited by record numbers of consumers,” the index’s authors noted. “More consumers spontaneously cited increases in their household incomes in early January than anytime in the past decade, and more households reported unprompted references to favorable employment prospects as well as lower prices than at any other time in the more than the half-century history of the surveys.”
Well, well …
As we’ve noted previously, consumer sentiment is important because it often provides a glimpse of what consumer spending might do in the future. And of course consumer spending often provides a glimpse of what employment might do in the future. Which provides a glimpse of what incomes might do in the future.
Which of course leads us back to consumer sentiment …
Unfortunately last month’s favorable reading on this very index didn’t have a corresponding impact on retail sales … although we’ll continue to keep our fingers crossed that this month will be different.
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All about the gas prices. 100%
Great point Flip. Just imagine if we had not been paying Obama’s ENORMOUS gas tax for the last six years.
Not to mention, home energy costs have averaged $1,200 more per year under Obama…and now the insurance they jacked up the price on, is worthless…because the deductible is so high…
Obama = TOTAL Disaster…
What’s a fella gotta do to join your circle jerk? I’ll be the Engine or the Caboose, makes no difference to me!
Spit Obama out of your mouth…
GrandTango doesn’t swallow apparently.
I guess he wants to keep things more personal/smaller. Fine by me! More personal attention.
seriously why don’t you and flip start a blog? Every time he nicks you with one of his teeth you can pull out and yell..”dam you Obama, its your fault Flip has sharp teeth”
You just fucked up. Your s/n showed up as ‘Buz Martin’ and then switched to ‘grandtangosuglydog’ when I logged out.
NAILED!!!! OH MY!!!
no no it didtn..but please keep trying to change the subject.
Yep…NAILED!!!
Thanks for catching that Flip. These people are EATIN up with it. When you are as wrong, ignorant and failed as they are…you are very defensive and caustic.
They’ll resort to any trick to try to keep from getting their @$$#$ kicked…it does not work…LMAO…
You are SCHOOLING them…
Under Obamacare, he could get those teeth fixed. The brain damage, probably not, only because technology isn’t there yet.
If they have the same blog, who would visit it?
Call Smirks , Boz. He has been working 2nd shift and weekends on FITS and appears more than willing to play the Caboose.
sounds fun…phone #?
ahh flips obsession about sucking cock and now apparently trying to be me as he constantly logs in and posts under my handle is more pronounced than ever…
Yes indeed. The socialists occupying the wHite House want to call the lower gas prices a ‘tax cut’. If that is the case they would have to call the rise of gas prices from $1.87 a gallon when Obama was sworn- in. to an average of $3.50 a gallon for SIX years, an Obama tax hike on America.
Once again you demonstrate your unrelenting brilliance of critical thinking to the masses of liberal morons that refuse to accept reality.
My guess is Smirks had to raise his hand and use the bathroom at FITS hq when he read that. :-)
Gas peaked at over 420 gallon under Bush, highest ever but thats one of those little things called a fact you hate so much..sorry to interrupt you and grandasshattrollwithnoblog..you can go back to stroking eachother..
$4.20 a gallon? Fucking liar and how would you know-just like Boz you don’t even have a drivers license?
http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=247&t=10
According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration’s (EIA) weekly survey, the highest retail price for regular grade gasoline in the United States was $4.11 per gallon on July 7, 2008.
Now who’s the “fucking liar,” hmmmm?
EDIT: I should add that the EIA is just one of many sources, but no matter what source you look at it reached its peak under Bush and has never gone that high under Obama.
LMAO!!!
Is that $4.20 you fucking dumbass?
What was the average per gallon when Obama took office in January of 2009?
$1.87 dumbass.
Are you really this stupid and why you have been working 2nd shift and weekends on FITS? :-)
oh so its 9 cents that you are arguing about now? BWAHAHAHA so the argument is who had the highest prices, you admit that was your hero and God W, now you are arguing about 9 cents…LOLo LOL you are so sad..really have you ever admitted to being wrong..?
The only “fucking dumbass” here is Flip/Sandi/pogo/[insert shitty troll’s sockpuppet here].
I think I heard Haley putting a few more quarters in Sandi’s tip jar.
Is that $4.20 you fucking dumbass?
I added in my earlier comment that there are multiple sources that point to the highest gas price in July 2008, they quote different prices.
$4.11 was by EIA, but grandtangosuglydog posted a link that showed it as high as $4.25.
Now, let’s use my super mathematical powers for a moment:
$4.25 > $4.20
I know, it’s magic, huh?
What was the average per gallon when Obama took office in January of 2009?
$1.87 dumbass.
$1.87? I saw a gas station with that on the way to work.
Thanks Obama! LMAO!!! Oh my!!!! :) :) :)
Thanks Obama for the 6 years of $3.50 avg. gas. It destroyed the middle class.
Still less than $4.25 (or even $4.11).
U mad?
AVG>
You really that stupid?
Still lower than Bush’s peak.
Let’s not forget the recession that Bush handed Obama either, which is why gas prices were so low at the beginning of his term.
Flip’s grandchildren will still be trying to clean up the mess the Bush Republicans left this country in. Thanks for supporting fucking over generations of Americans, Flip
>implying that someone would have consensual sexual intercourse with Flip, other than GrandTango maybe
He claimed to have some. Whether or not they claim him is another matter…
Heidi,Nick,Ethan,Aiden…they all love me..:-)
If you loved those kids, you wouldn’t be naming them on the Internet. Seriously. Also, you would not associate their names with a deranged bigot. Let them decide on their own.
Good point about naming them-dangerous psycho’s like you occupy some of these blogs.
Why don’t you read them some of your lovely comments? They’d be proud I’m sure.
Me? Really? Have you read the bigoted profane,ugly,blasphamous posts about Christ,Christians,conservatives,America etc…
See your ‘ilk’ wants to silence opinion from those that hold different opinions than you. When we get into your place of residence, the SEWER, and fight ya with the truth it drives you insane and makes you angry.
You are a great example of that.
Who said anything about religion? I assumed you weren’t religious. What religion’s major tenants are unfocused rage, small mindedness, willful ignorance and bigotry?
Obama’s ‘religion’- Islam?
Have you read the bigoted profane,ugly,blasphamous posts about Christ,Christians,conservatives,America etc…
Nope. Afraid we’re all too busy reading your bigoted, profane, ugly posts about gay Muslim transvestite drug users doing things we can only assume gets you hot under the collar.
Two wrongs totally make a right though. Keep going, you’ll win our hearts and minds eventually, amirite?
How ’bout I flip you over,and over,and over while I’n fucking your butt,or would you prefer it in a sling?
What are you gonna do when Obama is no longer President? Don’t worry, we’ll elect another Democrat president so you’ll continue to have something to be outraged about. My apologies to your poor family.
What are you gonna do when Obama is no longer President?
She still obsesses about Ervin and he dropped out of the race that ended months ago.
‘What are you gonna do when Obama is no longer President?
1.Get my money out of the tin cans I buried in the backyard
2.Visit the wHite House after they fumigate it
Don’t forget bitch that Hillary is President.
Are you really this stupid and why you have been working 2nd shift and weekends on FITS? :-)
This is what they call “projection” kids.
http://www.mercurynews.com/politics-government/ci_21545019/trick-question-who-had-higher-gas-prices-obama
http://firedoglake.com/2011/05/08/forward-this-graph-to-anyone-you-know-blaming-obama-for-high-gas-prices/
facts you ignorant asshole..try one for once in your life.
You know Flip’s allergic to facts. It’s like troll kryptonite.
he will just change the subject or obsess over sucking cock or anal sex again..the troll is easy to figure out.
Put your prettiest dress on tonight BOZ and take Smirks out dancing!!!! LMAO!!!!
see..point made! thanks dumbass. Facts scare him almost as much as Grandasshattrollwithnoblogs Braces..
I just got done talking about Flip fantasizing about the commenters here. Really sick stuff. At least most creeps are kind enough to keep it behind closed doors.
Or ghey Muslim sex, or spitting out Obama’s load, or screwing dogs, or really odd fantasies about the posters here, or obsessing over Ervin some more.
Geeze, Flip/Sandi/pogo/etc. is one freaky pervert.
why do you think they hang out here all day every day on a site they supposedly hate so much? Its the definition of pathetically sad.
Because Haley pays him/her/it to. It’s their job to post here. The creepy public display of his/her/its wet dreams is just icing on the cake.
I don’t hate FITS. Some good stuff on here and agree with ‘some’ things they post.
Most on here are fair and balanced and not pathalogical Charlie Manson types like you and the blog squirrel, Smirks.
Will called Smirks a SOCIALIST once and he ain’t been the same since. Guess that is why he was demoted to 2nd shift and weekends.
Will called Smirks a SOCIALIST once
You’re the only one that cares, dude.
(Once again, Sandi’s poor disguising shows through, by the way.)
SOCIALIST SMIRKS CASTRO CHAVEZ SMIRKS SOCIALIST
lol…
I wonder if he yells at his computer screen? You know he’s completely ignored at home. Poor chump.
hey buddy…my avatar disappeared but I got to defend flip for being my hero on facts…i get dizzy sometimes but i come out of it when i clip my heels 3x and light my crack pipe on the ole prayer rug…allak shalakaduwack shlitzmaltlickher
Transvestite crackhead Muslims? Flip, please, hands above the table.
ahhh flip once again acting cowardly and posting as me..guess i should be flattered.
Not me. You are posting to yourself. NAILED!!! Check your computer-you have a glitch. My sources tell me Smirks is a computer ‘gay’-maybe he can help.
More gay fantasies.
You know, Flip, I support your right to get gay married. Please look into it. I’d rather you act out your fantasies on a willing participant than to constantly foist your disturbing, leering comments on random internet commenters you don’t even know.
Yes, you ‘clearly’ understand how computers work. How fucking old are you?
Gas Price the first 6 years under Bush: $1.83.
Gas Price the first 6 years under Obama: $3.35
Dumb@$$…
so in your magical sucking obsessed world the last two years of his Presidency, arguably when the results of his economic policies would be most evident, you just block out those years? Mission Accomplished little troll..mission accomplished. You have reached that rare state of complete separation from reality.
Prices rose tremendously under Bush and came back down under Obama. Good point, GrandTango.
Prices were high briefly under Bush and he worked (released reserves) and prices flattened out, you miserable lying piece of idiot S#!t….then when Obama came in, gas prices escalated…and pretty much stayed high…
Gas has been way too expensive for all of Obama’s terms, and he said he does not care. He likes high prices as a conservation strategy. Obama says F*#k the suffering American families…especially if they don’t look like him and Trayvon…
Gas Price the first 6 years under FDR: $0.38.
Douchebag…
Hmmm…FDR rise to power in the 1930s…Hitler rise to power in the 1930s…
My how you liberals have to resort to the nostalgia of your good ol’ days to make your modern-day god-and-tyrant look good…
Watch the language, Gramps. What would the grandchildren think of that foul mouth? Great example…
Gas Price for first 6 years under Bush: $1.83.
Gas Price for first 6 years under Obama: $3.35
Dumb@$$…
Shocked..shocked I say..
so in your magical sucking obsessed world the last two years of his Presidency, arguably when the results of his economic policies would be most evident, you just block out those years? Mission Accomplished little troll..mission accomplished. You have reached that rare state of complete separation from reality.
So prices rose the most under Bush and Obama has finally gotten them back down. Thanks for pointing that out, GT!
Another lovely day over there in Crapville?
Couldn’t be better!!! Life is good.Some hoops tonight…pizza…be heading to Florida and Arizona soon…
God has blessed my life!!!
Are you buying tonight? See you in a bit, sweetie ;-)
What tax – dumb ass.
My shirt got wrinkled by the seat belt Obama makes me wear! (Yelling and shaking fist) OBAMA!!!!!
Other examples?? This is fun
When reality P!$$#$ you off…you can tell you are a liberal….
Does that mean you huff more gas or you just get savings at the pump?
Hey Flippy – why don’t you go check out Breitbart.com for the article on how GOP is planning the amnesty reform package to be voted on later in the Spring in three seperate packages.
Will never happen. Get over it Rocky. No citizenship/No voting/pay taxes.
Obama screwed the hispanics.
No citizenship/No voting/pay taxes.
Their kids will. (Read your Constitution bruh.)
Be a 100 years before hispanic vote ‘shapes’ any national election.
They shaped the last one – dummy.
They did? I thought Obama getting 140% of the vote in certain counties shaped the race?
(Bloomberg) — Marilyn Tavenner, head of the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, plans to step down at the end of February, she told her staff in an e-mail.
In November, Tavenner acknowledged that her agency had made a mistake in its calculation of the number of people enrolled under Obamacare. About 393,000 individuals with both health and dental coverage were “inadvertently counted twice,” she said in a letter to Representative Darrell Issa, a California Republican whose committee discovered the error.
The fraud continues. ACA is finished.
Wait. I thought Hispanic voter fraud was a real threat to democracy? You guys don’t know if you coming or going :-)
That was global warming…18 years..no ice caps…ocean swallowing cities…cow farts polluting and destroying ozone…:-)
You’re wrong, so change the subject. I get it.
Liberal lie…doesn’t matter what the subject is.
Facts. Why are they so biased against conservatives? Probably why you avoid them. By all means though, keep changing the subject you’ve been shown to be wrong about.
I don’t know?
Facts? Conservative ‘biased’ voters? Past 6 years?
11 senate seats
75 house seats
9 governorships
1500+ seats in state legislatures
“I don’t know”.
No….no, you don’t. Back to the original point. Hispanic voters will be influencing elections, nationwide, in much less time than 100 years. Try 18 years or less. You’ll be gone by then, so fret not.
Factually wrong,as usual.
Oh, you’ll still be alive in 18 years? My bad. I could turn out to be right, though. Keep changing that subject, Flipster. Oh wait!!! That’s where you get the name…you ‘Flip’ subjects every time you are proven wrong. Should picked up on that right away. Flip on, Flipper…Flip on….
Obama got rid of the Constitution.
Now you’re just grasping at incredible dumb straws. Love it!
You didn’t hear?
Right you are – sir!!!! Clarify ’cause Flippy has issues – their American born Children. And theyze Catholic – theyze has many.
… ‘Cause BummerCare took it all the consumers’ money:
“Top ObamaCare official stepping down” – TheHill.com 1/16/2015 ( http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/229745-top-obamacare-official-to-step-down )
“… Tavenner is leaving after five turbulent years overseeing the agency. Her tenure included the disastrous rollout of the government’s HealthCare.gov website as well as, most recently, an inflated tally of total ObamaCare enrollment. …
… Tavenner’s chief of staff, Aryana Khalid, also announced Friday that she would be leaving the agency.
The pair of departures come about a month after that of CMS’s deputy administrator, Cindy Mann. The agency’s No. 2 official left her post in January.”
Rats leaving the sinking ship. ;~}
So do you spend every waking second stressing over the ACA or does it come in spurts? Lucky for you, and ironically, Obama Derangement Syndrome is a pre-existing condition covered by Obamacare.
Yes, I do. BummerCare has had a significant degrading effect on my business. Many of our customers have stopped buying our high tech products because of the whole overly complicated mess. You do know that ALL domestic medical machine manufacturers are being taxed specifically because of BummerCare … some as high as 15% more than the already excessive taxes here in Taxifornia. Many of our customers have completely shut down their USA companies and are now making medical machines in Canada, Mexico, Europe.
The upshot is that my business has directly suffered from BummerCare taxes to the tune of $everal hundred thousand dollars per year.
FYI: several medical equipment trade shows have been canceled in the USA and more are canceling as we write.
I’m throwing the yellow B.S. flag. No, the honorable Joe Wilson “You lie” flag
You own a business? Of course, it will end up failing. But go on blaming Obama. lol
“You own a business?”
His push lawnmower is the only fixed asset that his business has.
Yes, probably. The “progressive” Fascist elites are doing everything they can to kill small business in this country. The President is just a tool in that vast “progressive” conspiracy … You are a Helot, a willing pliable dupe in that overt quasi-socialist scheme. … Helot: The slave who does not know it …
Watch for the rallying cry: “Let the purges begin!”, as you will be amongst the first to be rounded up.
” … It’s the Labour Government that have brought us record peace-time taxation. They’ve got the usual Socialist disease – they’ve run out of other people’s money.” – Margaret Thatcher.
“The upshot is that my business has directly suffered from BummerCare taxes to the tune of $everal hundred thousand dollars per year.”
You’re so full of shit that it oozes from every pore.
“The upshot is my business has directley suffered…”
Looks like it’s “Lightbulb” Lee Bright posting under an assumed name!!!
Sounds exactly what Bright was posting some months ago………
You remember:
“It’s all the government’s fault I’m bankrupt”, I can’t get an even break”, blah,blah,blah/whine,whine.whine
That’s the highest level of consumer confidence recorded in more than a decade
– That should tell you idiots something. We’re back baby – except in Crapville.
Definitely looking at Florida now – got better roads, incomes, no income tax, nice beaches, Latinas. See ya’ suckers.
Nope, we can’t be back, Koch-founded Cato told me so.
What would George Soros do?
Sometime after you head to Florida drive from Orlando to Cape Canaveral – a distance of about 50 miles.
Gas Cost – $4 at $2.00 a gallon and 25 miles to the gallon
Toll Cost – $4.25
In fact, if you get on any highway headed out of fantasy land be prepared to pay the tolls to the troll.
Oh, I hear ya. There’s no free lunch. Just thinking, school systems are better – probably my main motiviation. And alas, a very important one.
Tourist should be paid to travel 95 from 26 to GA !
Hey, they have my encouragement to drive around…
Yeah, then see how much more this great state would fall behind in revenue.
But no state income tax, a cross the rest of us bare. (And the Feds can’t seize your house.)
The answer to that is stay the fuck away from the Orlando area.
Took the kids there for the obligatory “Fantasy Land” trip back in the early 90’s. Filled that square and ain’t been back since (nor do I care to).
But the rest of Florida is GREAT!!
Yep, there ain’t no free lunch but Florida as a place for R&R (Non Disney influence that is) beats the shit out of anything South Carolina can even hope to offer. And if you know where to go and eat/drink, it’s cheaper not to mention more warm days to do fun stuff.
You can do everything in Florida that you can do in South Carolina plus so much more.
I’ll close with these VERY important words: FLORIDA KEYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hard to argue with the Keys but state wide, user fees, tolls and the like are ridiculous. I’d like to see you white water ‘yak in Florida (outside of fantasy land), I do that daily here in town when it’s warm enough.
Mmmmmm … That would be before the ’08 crash, when the “progressive” Fascists were telling anyone who would listen that Phony Mac and Phraudy May were good investments. How did your 401k turn out?
My 401k is shit hot!!!!!!!
Just got to know when to hold and when to fold!!!!!!!
Don’t feel like the Lone Ranger. More than $3 Trillion in equity lost in retirement accounts … and the taxsuckers won’t even let you deduct it, Thanks to that Barnyard Frankfurter and his brown eye buddy, Chisler Dowd.
Fucking A! We get it, shit sucks if you’re a republican in SC. You only have yourself to blame.
If you are a Democrat anywhere in the world you need Prozac!
Could be worse, you could be a Democrat in SC who’s having to have Republicans tell you what to do.
Yeah, seems like it must be plain shitty all around there.
“Could be worse, you could be a Democrat in SC who’s having to have Republicans tell you what to do.”
Yeah right. Republicans speak and I jump – LOL.
Fuck Republicans.
You live there, so they make the rules for you. At least you can come here and bitch. That’s the extent of any influence you might have.
“That’s the extent of any influence you might have.”
First off, you have no clue where I live – I am very careful not to divulge personal information – especially on this site with all of the creepy-crawlers that visit.
I obviously influenced you enough to have you come on here and attempt to insult me.
Enjoy being the bitch’s bitch? LOL
You live there. Why, though? Are you an under achieving liberal?
“You live there.”
LOL. You have no clue where I live but babble on.
You like being my bitch, huh? Why, though?
… you could also get a real job.
I’d say fuck Democrats, but they already know they’re fucked so why rub it in.
“I’d say fuck Democrats, but they already know they’re fucked so why rub it in.”
See you in 2016 – might want to go ahead and practice saying President Clinton. LOL
Name a republicrat who is telling you what to do … You must be a g’ment employee, a typical whiner.
These cheap gas prices have actually HURT the economy according to both FITS and Fox “News”.
“Hype?”
This whole site is”hype!”
I bought a new belt and a pair of Brazilian made slip on loafers last night – $65 total – great deal and helping the economy. Also looking to remodel the kitchen in a couple of months with new cabinets, counter-tops and appliances. So at least in my corner of Unicornicopia County things aren’t too bad. Thinking new BMW end of year too.
Don’t Worry,Be happy! Everything in America is free.. The only folks that will have to work are the new immigrants.
Let’s see: made my mandatory IRA withdrawal on Saturday, and the balance is still ahead of a year ago.
Rebalanced by zeroing out European investments Tuesday before the Swiss Central Bank unpegged the Swiss Franc from the Euro and sent the Eurozone economy into the shitter.
Life is good.
“Life is good.”
No matter. The President is still BLACK.
I thought he was half-black, half-white. Didn’t his BLACK father ABANDON him after he was born and the Kenyan was RAISED by his SINGLE WHITE mother and her WHITE parents?
I blame only the white half. White people have ruined this world.
Yes, things would be much better if we had Africans running the world. We can’t get enough famine & AIDS right now.
“I thought he was half-black, half-white”
Of course Squishy the ultimate authority on all things racial. Do you ever wash your sheets Squishy or just wear them all the time?
That and a five dollar bill will get you a cup of coffee.
Me too, but I’m 100% cash right now. Just as soon as volatility drops back below 14, I’ll jump back in. (If not, then I may dabble in Silver.)
The Wife’s IRA is solid, too, but I’m concerned … Too many Black Rock franchises, not enough commodities.
Fight raging versus Reuters and Gallup…one claims Obama is at 47% Approval…the others says it’s 37%… Nov. 4 says it’s round 30%….
And the FITS-Bots say it’s 70% Obama-proval…can you say: Dumb@$$#$…LMAO…
Who cares, SC sucks, either way !
Typical liberal. When your S#!t goes downhill, like it always does w/ Democrats, you all bury your head up your @$$…LMAO….
Just spent a week in JAX. Owner of a big RV dealer says the economy is in a big recovery. Fuel prices were mentioned.
The price at the pump has done more “stimulation” of the economy that all six years “stimulation” from g’ment … Oh Bummer. … And THAT’S the real reason for the “confidence” uptick.
Alls I know is that the local mall here had a record breaking year for sales last year. They are hiring and hiring at a rate well above the minimum wage. Guess they are mistaken about the recovery though.
Did you tell the g’ment you had a second job? Besides collecting food stamps? … And did you springboard that mall job into another round of unemployment?
Blah, Blah, blah, blah.. Bless your heart.
Money is a philosophy, not a “thing.”
Its value cannot be determined intrinsically.
The problems we face with a floating currency could be solved by creating money with a fixed value defined by what it will buy, instead of borrowing it into existence.
Money is a religion. If nobody believed in it, it would cease to exist.
religion and philosophy are the same thing.
Religion would disappear if nobody believed in it, but God wouldn’t,
It’d be a better world without religion.
“It’d be a better world without religion.”
Religion is like polics, necessary, but often corrupted
The places in which they tried to eliminate religion, have not been happy places to live.
euwe said that ‘religion and philosophy are the same thing’ . I agree.
Biblical Christianity is NOT a religion…it is a faith in Jesus Christ and why you will NEVER see Jesus Christ roll off the lips of Barack Obama.
Just because many religions are false and the true religion is corrupted, you can’t redefine the common meaning of.words. Look up Christianity and religion.
If you want to be biblical, then you shouldn’t be a Christian. Jesus never used the word.
Edit above.
Maybe Jesus did not use that word because, the term Christ and Christians are Latin.
Christ (Greek origin) messiah (Hebrew origin) both mean anoint.
‘Christian(s) ‘is used 41 times, 36 of them by Paul, in the Bible. Fist used probably by enemies. Not used by believers until Greeks started converting. Before they were Jews.
Actually Christ is the English translation of the Latin Christus, which was the Latin Translation of the Greek Khristos. Jesus spoke Aramaic. Paul spoke both Aramaic and Greek. In any event, most scholars believe the language used in most of the Books of the Bible attributable to Paul closely resemble language that existed approximately 175 to 200 years after the most credible dates for the Crucifixion. So either the books were not written by Paul or they were translated by later scholars into a more updated language. In any event there is certainly no reason to believe Jesus ever used any word that closely resembled. Christ or Christian.
You are right. I used origin to simplify the argument.
Most scholars believe that Paul wrote the majority of letters. It is the widely held opinion that he didn’t write 1 and 2 Timothy, Titus and Hebrews. Hebrews doesn’t contain a greeting from Paul. The others may have been by a disciple of Paul.
Romans says in the salutation, 16:22 “I Tertius, who wrote this epistle, salute you in the Lord.” So we know it may be dictated but the writer may have had an influence, especially as Paul aged. Other verses that indicate dictation or vision problems by signing or writing in large script.
In Jesus’s time there were Jews who spoke either Aramaic, Hebrew or Greek as their mother or “in the home tongue’ depending on where you were raised. Perhaps Aramaic in Galilee and Samaria but Hebrew in Jerusalem and Judea. Jesus’s mother tongue was Aramaic, but he may have learned Greek in either Egypt or Galilee.
It is not believed that the major parts of the old testament had been translated into Aramaic, Daniel and Ezra were originally in Aramaic.
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The word Targum refers to “translation” and argumentation or “explanation.” [2]
Writing down the targum was prohibited; nevertheless, some targumatic writings appeared as early as the middle of the first century CE.
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There fore when Jesus read the Bible in the Synagogue, he was probably reading Hebrew, but I would have to study this more.
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Luke 4: 17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias (Isaiah). And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
Even as an expostulation?
Welcome back, Flip. Some dumbass “Guest” has been imitating your style.
“Biblical Christianity is NOT a religion…it is a faith in Jesus Christ and why you will NEVER see Jesus Christ roll off the lips of Barack Obama.”
It should never roll off your lips judging from the absolutely vulgar and vile crap that you’ve posted on this forum.
According to Jesus, if I understand him correctly, religion is not necessary. It is an impediment. The organization – the hierarchy – is not God to pastor to man, but rather God to man. The middle man just gets in the way. The hierarchy in some religions is so complicated you can’t even think for yourself without committing a sin.
The law is written in the heart.
One may learn from others, but not legalistically.
You don’t need religion to be saved, but when two or more Christians cooperate to accomplish some godly task that could not be done or as successfully done separately, you have religion.
That’s not religion, it’s just getting things done.
If you to accomplish big things, you have to cooperate, organize, and put people in charge.
I would agree than there is no go between to Jesus and there is no earthly authority over my spiritual affairs. Any cooperation in spiritual affairs is voluntary, not compulsory or necessary. But such cooperation may be fruitful.
Vote for health care in the name of Jesus.
Some times it takes more than two, sometimes more than twelve …
Heard today, but apparently quite old story: A local Native Tribe is notorious for praying for rain and having that work every time. When asked, the Chief replied “that’s because we keep praying until it does rain”.
dude you FINALLY posted something that makes sense. Nice. +1.
Here’s a good article on the demand for the CHF1000 note (1000 Swiss Francs) that before Thursday was worth about $1143. Note the subhead on the blog that states “money is best described as an adjective, not a noun”
http://jpkoning.blogspot.ca/2015/01/the-zlb-and-impending-race-into-swiss.html
EXACTLY! … Bring back the pre-Woodrow Wilson, World Gold Monetary Standard! … The Swiss just did that. The Chinese are trying to, too. The Russians, ditto, but they are stuck with all that “low priced” oil.
Bring back the pre-Woodrow Wilson, World Gold Monetary Standard!
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You can’t be serious!
Yes! Absolutely! See ” The Forgotten Depression” – http://www.amazon.com/Forgotten-Depression-Crash-Cured-Itself/dp/1451686455/
The unequal distribution of gold deposits makes the gold standard more advantageous for those countries that produce gold.The largest producer of gold is China.
The gold standard acts as a limit on economic growth. “As an economy’s productive capacity grows, then so should its money supply. Because a gold standard requires that money be backed in the metal, then the scarcity of the metal constrains the ability of the economy to produce more capital and grow.”
Mainstream economists believe that economic recessions can be largely mitigated by increasing the money supply during economic downturns. A gold standard means that the money supply would be determined by the gold supply and hence monetary policy could no longer be used to stabilize the economy. The gold standard is often blamed for prolonging the Great Depression, as under the gold standard, central banks could not expand credit at a fast enough rate to offset deflationary forces.
There’s a very good reason they unhooked it in 1971, because their deficit didn’t enable them to maintain it with the supply of gold. In fact, is there enough gold in the world to back the U.S. debt?
The U.S. deficit since 1971 is exponentially greater in size and it’s not possible now, whether you want to fight inflation, whether you want to fight fiscal control, for the gold standard to help. Back in the ’50s and before that, when you were making economic decisions on a quarterly basis you could move slowly. You’ve got to make decisions on a quarter-of-a-second basis, sometimes in milliseconds, and having a gold standard doesn’t allow you to make those changes that fast.
We could pull out of Afghanistan and save ourselves a few hundred billion dollars a year. We didn’t have to fight wars through the last ten years and spend maybe a trillion on that.
Thanks Republican scum.
* The USA is a net positive producer of gold. (Ask Senator Diane Feinstein.)
* “… The U.S. deficit since 1971 is exponentially greater in size and it’s not possible now, whether you want to fight inflation, whether you want to fight fiscal control, for the gold standard to help. …” Wrong. Letting the US$ Dollar “float” against the circulation value of Gold coinage would eventually reduce significantly government debt and solidify the US$ Dollar as the international currency of choice (rather than the Swiss’ newly defined Gold Franc or any combination of Russian Gold backed and/or the [proposed] Chinese Silver backed currencies.) BTW: That’s government debt and deficit, not “national” debt and deficit. I never authorized any of it and I’m betting you did not either.
* We, the US Military, would still be able to “police” the world in anyway that congress and the president saw fit, provided a Gold Dollar were solid against any currencies from any tin pot dictators or mulla theocracy. (Check out what happened to the several billion Iraqi Dinars after 2004, still sitting in warehouses in New Jersey.)
12 million undocumented immigrants can’t vote… but they multiply like rabbits, and their kids can vote..
Vamos a superar en número a los gringos.
Yes! But there is a catch. They can also vote Republican.
Frog wings.
Frog wings? Frog Wings. FROG WINGS!
Republicans could sell those. Three varieties.
Red Chile, Cayenne, and Jalapeño.
Why would one vote for a party that wants to throw them out of the country?
Then again,maybe there are some like the Religious Right,
Irrational.
Romney got 27%, Bush 2004 got 44%
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/03/18/the-republican-problem-with-hispanic-voters-in-7-charts/
Once you can vote, you can’t be thrown out, but you can keep others out. I call it the boat dock effect. Once you get your dock, you don’t want anyone else to.