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Ron Paul: All I Want For Christmas Is A (Real) Government Shutdown

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Smirks December 15, 2014 at 9:56 am

All forms of welfare should be shut down, starting with those welfare programs that benefit the wealthy and the politically well connected.

I’ll take “Things Ron Paul Doesn’t Actually Believe” for $800, Alex.

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Come on December 15, 2014 at 9:58 am

Why would you say that? He’s always said the social safety net should come last and be scaled out over time out of deference to those dependent on it.

You really are cynical at times(which I understand) where it doesn’t warrant it.

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Smirks December 15, 2014 at 11:09 am

He’s not doing it out of deference to those dependent on it, he’s doing it out of deference to voters who would call for his head if he did it all at once.

Ron Paul takes a page out of the typical Republican tripe of block granting most welfare programs and shrinking them into oblivion. This isn’t “saving it for last” or “slowly phasing it out”, this is fundamentally changing the programs right off the bat, and to a system that does less to guarantee societal problems are solved effectively and efficiently. From three years ago:

The plan would freeze spending for Medicaid and a few other social programs like the Child Nutrition Program, changing them into block grants to the states and moving them from the mandatory spending sectionof the federal budget to the discretionary spending section, which means the programs’ budgets would need to be approved by Congress annually.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/10/17/ron-paul-1-trillion-cut-plan-targets-five-cabinet-departments

What block grants ultimately result in:

http://www.results.org/blog/why_block_granting_medicaid_and_snap_is_a_bad_idea/

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/04/paul-ryan-budget-food-stamps-medicaid-block-grants

What Paul wants to do is immediately change welfare into a program with limited funds, less oversight, and something that isn’t protected as mandatory and has to be approved each year, so that the program is far, far, far less successful at doing its stated goal. This failure doesn’t get touted as an epic fuck-up on Paul’s part per his own grand design, but as an “inevitable failure of government to uphold it’s promises to the people” as Ron Paul proceeds to curb stomp what’s left of the programs, much like how his son’s campaign people curb stomp protesters.

(This has been Republican strategy for decades now, mind you. Break government as much as possible, gasp in shock at how government just can’t seem to get it right, demand government be torn apart. Rinse, repeat. Rinse, repeat.)

Also, a lot of Paul’s other cuts would be to government agencies that actually protect us from corporate fuckery and would actually benefit the wealthy more than it would the rest of us. I mean, yay, he’s for killing oil subsidies, but who gives a shit if he’s gutted the EPA and it results in us having similar air quality to China?

Besides that, he takes on the mantle of the Republican party, which said party will hamstring each and every attempt at killing corporate welfare to such an effective degree that the only thing that Ron Paul’s support on the issues ever amounts to is (surprise!) gutting spending on programs that assist the poor. Every time Ron Paul runs with an (R) next to his name may as well be an open admission that he doesn’t actually believe half the shit he spews.

No, Ron Paul may profess to be something different than a duck, maybe he truly believes he’s not a duck, but he still quacks like one.

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Come on December 15, 2014 at 11:28 am

“He’s not doing it out of deference to those dependent on it, he’s doing it out of deference to voters who would call for his head if he did it all at once.”

WTF? Are you out of your mind? He’s not even in office, your claim makes no sense.

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pogo2 December 15, 2014 at 11:49 am

Obamacare just returned reimbursement to physician’s for Medicaid to original levels (Jan 1, 2015).

Typical dem/soc/liberal ‘tripe’ at the national level of starting/expanding a welfare program and promising money then cutting off funding and bankrupting states.

Can’t trust a Democrat anymore than you can trust Obama,Putin and Iran.

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"Gov't Shutdown" December 15, 2014 at 9:56 am

Pols will never let gov’t shut down for any length of time, because if they did, after a week or more of shutdown where everyone saw the world didn’t come to an end, the tax cattle would realize they don’t need the parasites.

But the idea that they can’t even let 20% shut down is even funnier. You better believe that if it ever happened it would be the 20% most people care about…which tells me that 80% of gov’t is unnecessary in the least.

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idiotwind December 15, 2014 at 10:16 am

gotta wonder if this man has ever even visited america. he sounds like he knows nothing about the place.

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Wichita December 15, 2014 at 10:17 am

I totally agree this bill should not have been passed, one thing that was not noted was the FDIC insurance on the derivatives, that was slipped through in this bill. Which means the the American people get stuck with the gambling debt of the banks.

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tomstickler December 15, 2014 at 11:18 am

Not to mention the section that would allow existing pension benefits to be cut.

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FastEddy23 December 15, 2014 at 11:56 am

One would hope pensions would be cut. Actually, no pension has been cut, only the percentage of contributions by the taxpayers to g’ment employees have been cut.

Now, if g’ment/administration/congress were to put a special tax on government employees, then pensions would be cut, but only modestly.

FYI: Most government employees do not make contributions to the Social Security “Trust” Funds … Most government employee pension benefits are completely tax free, Social Security Benefits, Not!

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Centrist View December 15, 2014 at 10:20 am

Nancy Pelosi said they needed to pass Obamacare legislation so they could find out what was in it. Congress just passed the Omnibus without reading it so they could spend it.

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no thanks December 15, 2014 at 10:48 am

Ron Paul is so full of crap. You actually think this guy is any different than other long serving establishment politician?

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Uh hu December 15, 2014 at 10:49 am

He’s no longer serving, so the question is, what drives him from continuing to issues statement/opinions?

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not_retired December 15, 2014 at 12:32 pm

Yeah, I think he’s way different.

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TyroneMamaCollards December 15, 2014 at 11:25 am

I think we should have a national referendum whether to change government in this manner. Let the voters decide. Each politician gets on the podium and shouts that the American people do not want this bill or the American people do want this measure. I always wonder whom they are referring to. So let’s let the American people decide whether they want the Ron Paul type of world or not. Let’s have one big vote. Then we can all shut up and sit down.

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FastEddy23 December 15, 2014 at 11:52 am

Absolutely!!

Shut it down and fire the g’ment Helots who disagree.

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John December 15, 2014 at 11:58 am

Funny how the most “extreme” political voices on both sides are the most moderate and reasonable–and how much they have in common. I am talking about Ron Paul (“extreme right”) and Elizabeth Warren (“extreme left”) neither of whom are extreme at all but state the obvious common sense that giving unbridled power to bankers runs against the liberty of all the other people. I think the most extreme politicians are the ones who vote for something they have not read, out of fear, peer pressure, coercion, laziness, greed, or all of the above.

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John December 15, 2014 at 12:05 pm Reply
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John December 15, 2014 at 12:49 pm

The media often associates Ron Paul with the tea party movement, but the two are very distinct. Ron Paul has been around since long before the tea party movement began. I remember when I first learned about the tea party and it caught my interest because it sounded like people who were supporting dissent, who did not trust their leaders, something like the original Boston Tea Party who were protesting taxation without representation. But it turns out that the modern Tea Party are not dissenters. For me, the key problem cited by the Boston tea partiers was the “without representation.” For modern tea partiers, they don’t really care about representation in government. They just don’t want to pay taxes, even if the majority have chosen it. And modern tea partiers want to EXPAND the role of government by legislating morality. Ron Paul, on the other hand, really wants to limit government. A lot. And he cares about the liberty of the people, like the original Boston tea partiers but unlike the modern ones. I wish that his son Rand would get that memo, but Rand really does fit in with the modern style of tea partiers. The son did not really listen well to the father.

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The Colonel December 15, 2014 at 2:29 pm

RonBo Baby, just slip a free market policy under the tree for me;
Been an awful libertarian boy, RonBo baby,
So hurry down the chimney tonight

RonBo baby, legal marijuana too, Labradorian blue;
I’ll wait up for you, dear; RonBo baby,
So hurry down the chimney tonight.

Think of all the fun I’ve missed;
Think of all the un-smoked spliffs;
Next year I could be a libertarian… if you check off my pro liberty list

RonBo baby, I want legal prostitution and really that’s not a lot;
Been seeing a hooker all year; RonBo baby,
So hurry down the chimney tonight.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt December 15, 2014 at 5:35 pm

Is it just me or does anyone else get tired of this website posting the musings of a nutcase on a near daily basis?

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Go get a job December 15, 2014 at 7:47 pm

If you’re tired of it, why are you still here?

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt December 15, 2014 at 8:38 pm

I suppose I like the abuse…it’s cheaper than going to a dominatrix.

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