WHAT’S THE FUTURE OF SOCIALIZED MEDICINE IN AMERICA?
By FITSNEWS || We’ve seen a lot of hypocrisy from “Republicans” in the U.S. Senate regarding Obamacare.
Like … a lot. So naturally we view public statements from Senate leaders as to how they might handle the socialized medicine monstrosity as highly suspect. But with polls showing the “Republican” party in a position to win a majority of votes in the U.S. Senate – we have to pay attention to what’s said.
Especially when the comments are made in closed door meetings …
According to a story written by Robert Romano of Americans for Limited Government (ALG), a recent closed-door meeting with aides to Senate “Republican” leader Mitch McConnell revealed a strategy which could – if employed successfully – starve the law of the resources it needs to be implemented.
“Aides acknowledged the only way to get any type of repeal or even major changes to the law would be reconciliation,” Romano’s report noted, citing ALG public policy vice president Rick Manning, who was in the meeting.
For those of you unfamiliar with that process, “reconciliation” is a way of amending legislation that deals with tax and spending issues using only a majority of Senators (i.e. fifty-one members) as opposed to a “super-majority” of sixty (which would be required for a technical “repeal” of the law).
“If Republicans are fortunate enough to take back the majority we’ll owe it to the American people to try through votes on full repeal, the bill’s most onerous provisions, and reconciliation,” McConnell spokesman Brian McGuire said.
Which provisions? Well, Obamacare’s insidious individual mandate and its employer mandate, for starters.
Previously, McConnell has stated publicly that “no one thinks” a GOP-controlled Senate could repeal Obamacare – remarks which landed him in hot water with the limited government wing of the party.
Why does this matter?
Romano explains …
“Putting (a repeal) on Obama’s desk, and forcing him to veto it, clearly makes the presidency the obstacle to getting rid of the health care law,” he wrote. “This would set up the 2016 presidential election as a clear referendum on whether or not to keep the law.”
In addition to the legislative battle over Obamacare, the law also has another date with destiny in the judicial branch … where a pending case challenges its ability to raise taxes and disburse subsidies in thirty-six states.
FITS weighed in extensively with regard to that case, arguing in support of striking down the taxes and subsidies.
“Obamacare was written with the expressed purpose of bribing states into participating,” we wrote. “The only problem? Thirty-six states refused the bribe.”
However it happens … Obamacare needs to be shredded. It’s done nothing but hurt the economy and raise people’s health care costs – precisely the opposite of what its architects promised. One way or the other, it needs to die.
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73 comments
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“God let’s hope so”
It’ll never, ever happen.
The easy answer to the questions is: YES. Unfortunately, the reality is they probably won’t. It would take a Libertarian Congress to undo all of the tyrannical illegal laws enforced by our out of control Republocratic government.
My prayer after the Republicans gain the majority in the senate is that Obama either:
A. Runs off and joins ISIS
B. Runs off to Africa to treat Ebola patients
The narcissistic , American hating and Constitutional shredding radical won’t be able to handle this defeat. He will get even and punish this country.
You need to get off your computer and get back to sucking my dick.
Rather harsh, don’t you think?
“My prayer after the Republicans . . . ”
Babbling imbecile.
A GOP Senate could take down the nation.
Too late.Obama already did it. Tuesday night will be fun though.
LOL..Sandi…Good one…ad correct, too…(:
Your ignorance is what keeps people scared of the GOP. Obama took over at one of the worst points in U.S. history. Two wars (one illegal), a destroyed economy due in part to the illegal war, and a destroyed U.S. image internationally. Your ilk has caused irreparable damage.
Yeah, I’m really hating how the DOW and S&P just closed at record highs. That and the cheap gas.
“We’re taking our country back!”
To what, the 1800’s?
Would/could Obama/DOJ find a reason to declare Martial Law prior to the election on Tuesday if the polls continue to read a Republican landslide???
Watch carefully the decision of the grand Jury in Ferguson, IF it is released this weekend.Been reading some ‘chatter’ about schools not being in session on Monday in St.Louis County?
Riots would tie in nicely with the Democrat Party’s operation of voter fraud nationwide.
Would/could Obama/DOJ find a reason to declare Martial Law
This is what the extreme right actually believes.
FEMA death camps for everyone!
The extreme right lives in an alternative universe where everything is scary because their way of life is obsolete.
Scary? Blanket amnesty for any and all isn’t scary? Complete take over of all medical business isn’t scary? … More fed bucks spent on bullets than food stamps isn’t scary? …… Swat teams in the u.s. Park services isn’t scary?
Oh Bummer.
Scary? Blanket amnesty for any and all isn’t scary? Complete take over of all medical business isn’t scary? … More fed bucks spent on bullets than food stamps isn’t scary? …… Swat teams in the u.s. Park services isn’t scary?
Oh Bummer.
Last Alex Jones count says there are several FEMA camps not far from Columbia. Drudge reported FEMA purchased more bullets than drinking water for Sandy “assistance”. Investigative reporter needed.
Where do the black helicopters fit in? Do tell.
You weren’t the pollster that told Ervin that he would take votes away from Haley, were ya? LMAO!!! Oh…I forgot you told us Elizabeth Colbert Busch was going to win. :-)
Welcome back ‘vic’…just bend over and take it Tuesday night!!! :-)
Your obsession with Ervin never fails to entertain.
The election is not over yet. He endorsed Sheheen and is campaigning for him.Votes have been cast for him.He is still part of this election.
After the votes are counted I will let the 20,000 people that signed his petition and gave him $100 GRAND deal with the con job and fleecing he perpetrated on the SC voters.
Fits is obsessed with Haley…I just have a job to do before I start at Sonic next week…:-)
Haley fleeced millions, why no mention of that ?
I guess Sandi never gave money to a candidate who dropped out of a race. It happens.
If I was you i would hide in your moms basement (makes it easy already there) and wait for the hordes of democrat zombies pass by your moms house. Listen daily top Rush and Hannity to find out when safe to surface. Good luck to you minion, good luck indeed.
The Polls always show a republican landslide, just like in 2012.
A lot of my friends use a term, ” Before war ” or “After war ” when talking about the past.
you could be very right about that. They care nothing about others. Did anyone see Bush visit wounded or dead combat veterans from his Iraq war ?
Or his Afgan war ? I must of missed that part. I didn’t see anything., you ? The next pub war will be ?
LOL!
“Well, we would MAKE Obama veto it, so that we could wait until 2017 before even hoping to get it repealed! Yeah, that’ll show him!”
What a joke! You’re admitting this bill is going to be in place for three fucking years, insuring millions more people, and then you’re going to try taking that away?
Sounds like Rick is admitting defeat already. Have fun with that!
“Could A GOP Senate Take Down Obamacare?”
As Steven A Smith noted elsewhere on here, “God, let’s hope so”! Just remember, we cannot count RINO’s such as John McCain and Lindsey Graham as part of that “GOP Senate”. It will take more than a slim majority to do anything.
Slim and sandi go hand in hand. TOO funny.
Hahahahahahahahahaha…Oh, FITS…your SLAP-DOWN is coming, you F*#king idiot…and all these @$$-kissers you bunk up for, are going to be sooooo funny Tuesday evening….LMAO…
IMPLODE MUCH???….hahahahaha…
You are one ignorant some beech…and the people who hang on your ignorance are even more pathetic…I’m already laughing just thinking of the media and yall when it become apparent what has happened to you….
I swear this is almost word for word what this idiot posted during the 12 elections..she was gonna slap our asses silly when Palin, Bachman, Perry (LOLOLOL), Gingrich uhhh i meant ot say Romney won the election. Oh those where the days…
So that means you are predicting (going on record) the Democrats will hold the US Senate, and take the US House???…Because Obama – the Democrat – won in 2012, you are now saying the Democrats will win Tuesday. Can you give me the numbers you are predicting?
PS: I also predicted what a F*#king disaster Obama would be, but you said he was going to be GREAT….You do admit you look like a F*#king idiot, and I look like a genius- based on my predictions -two years later…right?
what do you do with all the voices in your head. I never said a single thing you attribute to me above but hey, if it keeps your delusional mind at rest..please have at it. This is your standard response when facts are mentioned, you ignore the facts then go on some insane rant that has nothing to do with what anyone actually says but more to do with you weak minded ability despite facts to cling to your falsified reality. You are truly the village idiot. #stillnovisits2yourcrappybloghuh? #howmanyclicks=lessthanzero
LMAO…just like I thought…if you can’t back up your Bull-$#!t taunts…you might need to STFU…Hahahaha…
what still no visits on your crappy website..have you given up and will just spend all day trolling on this and other sites. Can you make a living as a professional troll? I did answer your bs and called it out, you make up lies to support your statement..if not prove i said those things..you cant..therefore you are not only a LOSER with a site that has tumbleweeds blowing through it but a PROVEN LIAR. Life sucks to be you..maybe suicide should be a consideration?
You republicans really get skiddy when a election comes around, LOL.
Why not ?
You think your pubs are the answer ?
Conservative government will save this country that you have so F*#ked up w/ liberal dogma and policy.
Let’s wait till Tuesday !!!
OK I’ll wait. But will you give me your prediction in the meantime? Do you think the Democrats hold the US Senate? Will you gain seats in the US House, and take it? Are you betting on Sheheen, or any other statewide Democrat? Give details please?
You say wait..I don’t need to wait. I’m hoping the Republicans Bash in your F*#king Skull (figuratively of course) because you are dangerous and worthless pieces of anti-American $#!t. You should be deported for treason, w/ Obama. Do you deny that? ….And all indications are many agree w/ me. But it sounds like you think different since you are not Shutting TFU.
I told you Obama was a F*#king disaster. You told me he is GREAT.
If you are right, your prediction of BIG Democrat wins will manifest on Tuesday. You are saying I’m wrong, and you’ll be proven right on election day, right? Can I quote you on that?
Do you still molest children?
LMAO….does that mean you’ll STFU, now?
The answer is No, because he president has veto power and there aren’t 67 votes to override the veto.
Isn’t the nuclear option now available???…might want to revise that “override” number…LMAO….
LOL! Copied for posterity:
Isn’t the nuclear option now available???…might want to revise that “override” number…LMAO….
You do realize that the nuclear option is designed to take away the filibuster, not change the requirement for veto overrides, right? Do you even Constitution, bro?
smirks, remember who you are trying to engage with silly man..its like talking to your dogs turd on the lawn and expecting an intelligent response..all that dog knows is..”its all Obamas fault”
It was dropped to get Obama’s activist judges in, to stack the courts. If we can use a simple majority to rock the SCOTUS, I’d say that should definitely be an opting down the line.
Overriding a veto still takes 2/3rds of the House and Senate. That’s a constitutional thing and has nothing to do with the nuclear option. As much as I’d like to see Obama Care go away, It’s not going to happen via an override at least not this session.
Goobersmacker • 3 minutes ago
The answer is No, because he president has veto power and there aren’t 67 votes to override the veto.</i.
GrandTango Goobersmacker • a minute ago
Isn’t the nuclear option now available???…might want to revise that “override” number…LMAO….
I see your point. With the majority in both the senate and house we can just ignore the Constitution and rules like the Dems did.
Huh? You comment is missing a key ingredient–logic.
Oh, and the actual substance of this “Constitution” you speak of.
If I had a nickel for every time someone rambled on about the U.S. Constitution (when they actually hadn’t read it themselves) I would be filthy rich.
dont forget “facts” Dave, her logic is missing all cylinders on that one as well..
Yea, kinda like Bush did.
You know what’s more likely to die than Obamacare? Your children, without health insurance. And that can’t happen too soon.
The nut roots of the GOP will demand that Obamacare be repealed and Obama be impeached, IF the GOP wins the senate. They will then find out that McConnell, et al have no intentions of EVER repealing Obamacare. They only use opposition to Obamacare to win votes, but in reality have no desire to repeal it.
You’ve already got Kasich saying “Well, the Medicaid expansion isn’t reeeeeaaaaallllyyyy part of Obamacare…”
What’s going to happen if the GOP takes over is, they’ll make a couple changes to benefit the insurance industry just a bit more, but ultimately leave a good portion of the ACA in tact, and magically declare it “fixed.” Then they’ll get back to cutting taxes for the rich, jacking up spending, and finding another Middle East country to invade.
Very good Smirks and 100% right. They are ” chomping at the bit ” to have a war somewhere for something. I just wish they would be on a smaller scale like Reagan used to do.
It would be political suicide to repeal any part of “Obamacare.” The GOP knows this and will probably do what you said…. but… I don’t think they have a chance in hell of winning the Senate.
You’re a dullard
Obama care is doomed
Doomed as clay Aiken winning in North Carolina
You wishing it don’t make it so
Obama care is done my friend.
You’re an idiot to say differently
Ps. Hillary Clinton never gets ejected president either
I have spoken.
Such is the root of all that is evil –> Politicians
That is true. The Repubs are at heart little different from the Dems. They will simply use the notion of repeal to win seats. Yet another dupe on their constituency.
Democracy as it is formulated today is a perfect tool for the ruling elite…turning over fresh manure every now and then makes Joe Sixpack feel like he’s doing something, when in reality he is doing nothing more than the equivalent of Charlie Brown trying to kick the proverbial football.
It will be the same ole same ole as long as those tea party nuts are in DC. Nothing will get done and Obamacare isn’t going to be repealed. About the only issue that could get traction within both parties would be tax reform.
Six reaons it wount happen – Ayotte, Kirk, Collins of Maine, Johnson of WI, Portman of OH and Toomy of PA – all represent states that have benefited from ACA and are up for re-election in 2016. Enjoy running the Senate to nowhere guys – we’ll be back in charge in 2017.
Pie in the sky. Remember: the president owns the veto pen.
The Act is going nowhere. It is here to stay. It needs some revisions. But it is going nowhere. And it has not hurt our economy at all. Just typical bullshit fright talk when a new change is implemented.
The Repubs don’t have the guts to tell millions of Americans they no longer have health insurance. Can you imagine the soundbites? “My momma was getting treated for cancer and until the Republicans yanked her health coverage.”
This seems like a GREAT idea, I mean seriously Obama probably is secretly against Obama Care but just bidding behind the fact Republicans can’t CURRENTLY put a bill on his desk to overturn it. Genius -just sheer genius, he’d never veto it, right? Right?
Well written
If republicans are smart
They use the same tactics to dismantle Obama care
That the insidious democrats used to ram this abomination through the house & senate
So
If republican politicians truly want to enact the will of the people then they will abolish Obama care
If they know what’s good for them
Republicans impress me less & less on a daily basis.
Where are the true fiscal conservatives ?!?
Voters. Find us some honest men