MEET KACY LYONS HATMAKER … THE GIRL THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT IS OUT TO DESTROY
By FITSNEWS || Over the past few days, the Palmetto political universe has been rocked by child molestation allegations leveled against Upstate social conservative leader Joshua “Josh” Kimbrell.
According to a warrant issued for his arrest earlier this week, Kimbrell – who is still being held behind bars without bond – is accused of fondling and committing other sexual acts against his three-year-old son, Tristan Kimbrell. Supporters of the Greenville, S.C. “Republican” have rallied to his defense, blaming the allegations on his ex-wife, Kacy Kimbrell.
We’ve covered this story extensively given Kimbrell’s close connections to several prominent elected officials – including S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley. Kimbrell has also been viewed as a coveted endorsement in the Palmetto State’s “First in the South” 2016 presidential primary. On top of that, he’s also spoken openly about his desire to become a politician himself one day – and some of his closest social conservative allies recently completed a coup of the local “Republican” party.
So who is in the other corner of this rapidly unfolding drama?
Kimbrell’s ex-wife … although she isn’t named Kacy Kimbrell anymore. She remarried recently, and is named Kacy Lyons Hatmaker.
What do we know about her? Not much … other than she and her ex-husband have spent much of the last three years in family court in Greenville, S.C. (docket record HERE).
Oh, and we know Hatmaker is being fitted for a black hat in this drama by Joshua Kimbrell’s allies.
“Josh is in the midst of a bitter custody battle with his ex-wife to maintain an on-going parenting relationship with his three year-old son,” a statement posted to Kimbrell’s website this week read. “It is not uncommon that allegations such as these arise in the course of such disputes, particularly when the complainant, in this case the ex-wife, can benefit from the allegations.”
This statement – an obvious shot across Hatmaker’s bow – was attributed to the board of the directors of the Palmetto Conservative Alliance, a group which includes three members of Nikki Haley’s faith and family group (a group Kimbrell was also a member of).
It’s also exceedingly tame language compared to some of the incendiary tips we’ve received about Hatmaker ever since this story broke.
So … which end is up?
As we’ve said from the beginning this drama, there is no more virulent allegation than one involving the molestation of a child – especially when the child is one’s own flesh and blood.
“If Kimbrell is innocent, then his accuser is guilty of the most insidious character assassination we’ve ever seen,” we wrote early on in this case. “If he’s guilty, though, there is literally no punishment we view as too severe.”
That’s true … although with this story less than a week old, it’s safe to say both Kimbrell and Hatmaker are seeing their character assassinated.
What remains to be proven is which one of them deserves it …
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“It’s also exceedingly tame language compared to some of the incendiary tips we’ve received about Hatmaker ever since this story broke.”
The king of salaciousness has relinquished his crown eh?
The new FITS seems more scared of repercussions than the old FITS. Shame.
Can we now refer to her as the Mad Hatter?
She looks like that crazy Krista Cogdill that Will had a crush on about three years ago. The one that ran for lieutenant governor for about 4 days.
She doesn’t seem to cake on makeup nearly as heinously as Krista did.
The same judge who signed the arrest warrant on Kimbrell also signed the arrest warrant on Shay Hewitt, who was accused by Krista Cogdill of harassment. Small world.
So someone can just be thrown in jail and held without bond based on allegations?
It’s 2014, the “authorities” can do pretty much whatever they please.
What do you know about the investigation at this point? I know nothing other than he has been charged with a serious felony. I am hoping the police worked on this pretty hard before they went and got a warrant for his arrest.
Yes, that was my point. In South Carolina, home to the insane right and one of the leading states in spousal battery and spousal killings, there appears to be a natural tendency to go after the accuser if the accuser is a female. It is the Christian way.
Looking at other websites, your statement is seriously flawed. But I guess you are anti-God anyway.
” I am hoping the police worked on this pretty hard before they went and got a warrant for his arrest.”
That’s probably not the case unfortunately…it was probably a CYA event with minimal investigation….then they toss it to the solicitor and the real investigation begins.
Yes.
Yes…not only that, the jailers, with malice towards you, will put you into a cell with the most mentally ill, gang banging, loudest, and obnoxious niggers or bikers or skin heads they can. And laugh about it.
Racist much?
With the exception of the slur, but not off base.
So you are negro and voted for Obama because of skin color.
So what you voted for Mitt because of his skin color
And right up there in that comment too.
Obviously you’re not familiar with the PATRIOT Act
Yes sire, it is that easy to do.
Jail site shows he was given a $25,000 surety bond today. He has not met bond yet.
Days after his arrest??? —- § 22-5-510(B) provides that “[a] person charged with a bailable offense must have a bond hearing within twenty-four hours of his arrest
At his first appearance said No Bond. Today he was with his attorney in general session courts and bond was granted.
Maybe his taste of our county jails will get him to call for reforms. The way we treat our citizens in detention or incarceration is disturbing.
Because only circuit judge can set bond for charge. No bond was just what they entered in the drop down box I’m sure.
First degree csc With minor under 11 has to have bond set by circuit judge. Circuit court isn’t in session daily, which is what took so long.
Why not just all bonds for criminal defendants set by a circuit court judge? More flip flopping knee jerk reactions by making feel good laws written and passed by legislatures. Typical SC.
Probably sounded better to force accused child molesters to go before circuit court judge in a campaign ad.
Makes sense. The get tough on crime rhetoric. And therefrom amendments, which most of the time do little to reduce or deter criminal behavior.
General sessions Court may not be in session every day, but Circuit Judges are available and bond should be set within the mandatory 24 hour statutory requirement. Family Court judges are available for emergency hearings and 72 hour hearings when children are taken into emergency protective custody. Same should apply to GS.
— but how did mommy NOT get custody of her kid?
Zactly what I was thinking.
See Henry? Hot and shithouse crazy. Just like we (I’m guessing you thought the same) imagined and just like we like ’em. If she was a dog face I would be leaning to the “He is a pedophile side”, but I knew if she was a cutie I would go for the “She is a vicious looney tune side”.
Predicted the essence of this entire comment to Sic, in a tweet a little while ago. Swear to God.
I bet her lawyer is coaching her.
Doubtful. He ain’t the sharpest blade…
BS.
Maybe he use his Republican Party connections to get custody of his victim.
Not even in South Carolina do connections work if a judge sees the potential for abject parenting in one or the other parent.
Wanna bet connections do not work?
Some one needs to swoop in and get copies of the family court file – ASAP.
It’s sealed.
I bet it is not people always think they are, but it is rare to have them sealed.
Family court website for Greenville County actually has that in red. Not an assumption, but going by what’s posted online.
Why don’t you provide the link to the file?
Not as easy to get to on mobile. Why don’t you find it yourself?
I call bullshit.
http://www.greenvillecounty.org/familycourtsearch/search.asp?CaseYear=&CaseNum=&CaseSuff=&Party=Kimbrell%2C+j&buttonCaseSearch=
http://www.greenvillecounty.org/familycourtdocket/DoCaseSearch.asp?case_number=2011-3208 …. nothing here says they are sealed. No worries, though. You are likely busy. Save it for a another time.
Look at the link I posted. And then go fuck yourself.
Why so angry all the time?
What’s it to you?
Clarence Beeks?
He never has had custody. She has custody but he had court awarded time for the child to visit. He lies. All lies. He told everyone that he had custody.
Come on … you can do it … tell it all :-)
She seems to be into very average looking dudes. Could this be a sign of poor judgement? Low self esteem? The need to feel aesthetically superior to her mate? Bat shit crazy?
You left out “Not the run-of-the-mill superfical twat who values looks over substance.”
You left out “Not the run-of-the-mill superfical twat who values looks over substance.”
Damn Buz.
Never figured you to be that naive for the idealistic/sentimental type.
TBG goes with A, B and C…but not D.
I’d do her.
The line starts right behind me…..
Behind you… Not really where I want to be in this equation.
Behind him may be preferable to directly in front of him unless you’re expecting a reach around…
Rock, paper, scissors!
You’re into gang bang trains, aren’t you.
https://plus.google.com/111672524184136517544/posts?pid=5805098908958364162&oid=111672524184136517544
Yes..yes..this.
Hotness/Craziness Matrix sez:
“Danger, Will Robinson!!”
She probably screwed the choir boys brains out and he couldn’t find them afterwards to put them back in…so he kept doing it until they had a baby. “True love.”
BTDT.
PRO TIP:
Don’t stick it in the crazy.
(TBG doesn’t expect anyone to actually obey this…but posted the tip out anyway out of civic mindedness.)
The most fun advice to give is that advice that you don’t follow personally.
If you make a baby with her, you might get some unwanted anal love a few years down the road…
You would do a 14 yr old? Only a full of himself pecker jerk would say the things you say.
Who’s 14? The picture posted is of the ex-wife, who is 28.
I have seen these kinds of vindictive ex wives pull crap like this many times before. Even a girl I once dated was always blaming her ex husband for things like this – that each time came up “unfounded.” She did it so many times to try to stop his visitation that finally the court removed the child from HER custody.
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I would not be surprised in the least if this is that kind of case. She has a clear motive to make up totally false and malicious allegations. Its a custody battle.
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I got a feeling this case is going to really make the entire court system and DSS look like bumbling asswipes. ( and yes, DSS investigates these kinds of allegations of sexual abuse of a child).
Go figure.
IF he molested the child I hope he gets the wrath. My suspicion tells me he didn’t. If she’s making the entire thing up I hope they throw the book at her.
” If she’s making the entire thing up I hope they throw the book at her.”
I’ve never seen that in these cases….false accusers seem to get off with at most a slap on the wrist in the case of an ex-wife.
All of your terminology indicates everything you describe took place within the DSS and Family Court systems.
That is very different from a sheriff or police chief deciding that they have the evidence to arrest and a solicitor deciding that he has the evidence to prosecute in Circuit Court.
The wife and/or a medical and/or a mental health professional would have to file a complaint with the police. This subjects the child to all kinds of interviews and examinations, unless already prior initiated by the ex wife before the arrest. I wonder if Hatmaker’s new husband factors in to this anywhere – yet.
The police, I understand, serve a limited role. The police don’t do private part examinations. The police do not question the child. I think SC social services and the physicians, psychologist they use, look for any evidence. The doctors do extensive private part examinations of a child. Its not a pleasant thing to force a kid under 11 through. Cant stand child abusers and molesters. Can’t stand people who make shit up to harm another. They come from all walks of life. Its the dark side of society that’s hard to fathom sometimes. :-(
Will – thanks for the photo – she’s pretty hot. Doesn’t look like a total psycho to me. Bigger question remains unanswered – typically the family courts – if it’s bitchy ex-wife – process and release. He’s beein in jail all week. That usually takes some evidence of wrong doing.
You are passing judgment based on looks? And evidence rules when it comes to a lower flunky dunky magistrate who is not even required to have a law degree? Son … let me tell you something …. there have been cases in this state whereas a single uncorroborated phone call to a magistrate caused the issuance of an arrest warrant. There have been cases in this state also where magistrates took jurisdiction over matters in which they had no authority to do so.
Try educating yourself as to bail/bonds under SC Statutes. Because of all the hoop holla over magistrate judges so easily turning repeat violent offenders loose, only for them to commit more very serious crimes in the days after release, the backlash has caused magistrates in most all violent charged to DENY bond. Doesn’t matter even if you have no criminal record. They will deny anyway in the case of violent felony charges. After 15 days, the magistrate will no longer have jurisdiction over this case. It goes to Clerk of Court and General Sessions. He will get a bond hearing there.
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Myself, I think the lower court magistrate who had denied bond is playing politics.
Was bond actually denied?
No
Anymore, the legislatures treat the laws they make as one big experiment. It use to be all bonds/bails were set by a lower court Magistrate judge in accordance with. Over the years, many criminal statutes and rules of court are amended, abolished, or added. And its none stop. Now I can understand improving things. But it is almost like schizophrenia runs amok with the never ending changes to already existing statutes. Kind of reminds me of Microsoft with their security updates to plug holes in their Windows operating system(s). But then, statutes are not related to security – but then they are when it comes down to Constitutional rights. What I am saying, I really see no need for bail/bond in these cases to be determined by a circuit court judge before the case is sent over to the Clerk of Court, and when so many other violent offenses – bail/bond is determined within 24 hours of arrest – by a Magistrate; as long as the Magistrate still has jurisdiction before the matter is sent over to the Clerk of Court for Gen Sessions. The bail/bond statute mandates a hearing before a Magistrate within 24 hours of arrest. But in the case of CSC, with Gen Sessions now having exclusive jurisdiction in all matters related to bail/bond in CSC cases, it can be days, even weeks, before a hearing can be afforded.
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Maybe I am missing something here. But this seems to contradict the gist of the 24 hours period mandated for the magistrate court, if I read the statute correctly and the court rules made there from.
What he is charged with carries up to life imprisonment. The legislature made a mandate and the SC Court Rules state as follows:
106. BOND MATTERS (a) Time of Bond Hearing. Within twenty-four (24) hours after arrest, including arrests arising out of direct presentments to the grand jury, all defendants charged with a bailable offense shall appear before a Summary Court Judge who shall consider bond on all charges except those for which life imprisonment or death is the possible punishment.
http://www.sccourts.org/whatsnew/SouthCarolinaCriminalRulesWithRule106Change.pdf
The right to bail pending trial is guaranteed to all persons by Article I, Section 15 of the S.C. Constitution in all instances except in capital cases or offenses punishable by LIFE imprisonment.
http://www.judicial.state.sc.us/summaryCourtBenchBook/HTML/CriminalE.htm
Kimbrell’s charged of Criminal Sexual Conduct in the 1st Degree, punishment appears to be is a mandatory sentence of 25 years to LIFE imprisonment (See SCCOL Section 16-3-655(A)(1) and (D) .. … http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t16c003.php …. No court appears to have any jurisdiction nor authority whatsoever to consider bond much less even hold a hearing; not even General Sessions. Kinbrell’s charge carries up to life imprisonment. Again, the right to bail pending trial is guaranteed to all persons by Article I, Section 15 of the S.C. Constitution in all instances except in capital cases or offenses punishable by life imprisonment. In offenses punishable by life imprisonment, there appears to be no right afforded to an accused nor authority given to any court (not even General Sessions) to consider and/or grant bail.
“You are passing judgment based on looks? ”
Sad to say, I know a great % of people that vote on candidates based on their looks….the average internal/mind human decision points if ever truly exposed would be a horror show of epic proportions.
Aaaahh Nikki, but It won’t work for T-Rav.
Many thanks – I did not realize that. (No off cuff remarks today) – then that’s a new light. IT sucks for him – he should be afforded a qhick hearing. Lived in many states – every day I learn something new about how arcane SC can be.
No he’s been waiting on circuit court session since CSc first degree with minor under 11 bond can only be set by circuit judge. Circuit court is not in session daily.
An old man once told me “No matter how hot she is, you can bet somebody somewhere is tired of her crap.”
Preceded by “Stop crying about getting turned down, over and over, again by attractive women, son…”
Her FB page … https://www.facebook.com/kacy.elizabeth.14?fref=ts
Her new lawyer faved on her FB page? >>> https://www.facebook.com/MegGoodwinOffice?fref=pb&hc_location=profile_browser
http://www.greenvillecounty.org/familycourtdocket/DoCaseSearch.asp?case_number=2014-1964
In the link Joshua had a court date on 5/5/2014. He tweeted on 5/1/2014, “The bond between a parent and a child is inseparable. I am living the fight for shared parenting in SC. I will fight for the rest of my life for the right of a child to have two active, stable parents. Let’s reform child custody laws in SC to protect our children!”
Link: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=725324647536
Then he had court dates for 10/2 and 10/6. A week later he was arrested. He tweeted on Oct 2:
“Please pray for my son Tristan. Both he and I are dealing with an evil that is pretty hard to even explain. I pray for God’s protection for my beloved son.”
Link: https://twitter.com/Josh_Kimbrell
Yes Joshua is taking some crap. Here is a link about a family lawyer who talks about divorced women who accuse ex-husbands of child abuse to gain custody. More common than we think.
https://www.fitsnews.com/2014/10/17/fathers-rights-attorney-josh-kimbrell-hoisted-petard/
So with everything that is coming out (whether true or not), it sounds like to me the ex wife has been repeatedly trying all these different things to block and terminate his parental rights. She has learned the system during the process of it all. She has learned what to say, what is needed, and so on. She has learned from reports and information across the internet. She has talked to her friends and they too shared what they know with her. And she has talked to attorneys and other professionals. I bet she has gone running to every single person she can find with a story. If so and she started it, she felt compelled to not to be made to look like a liar. If that is the case, how far was she willing to go? Over the edge with this? Just thoughts. Not making allegations. Being hypothetical here. Male or female, makes no difference. People will do some pretty crazy things.
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All in all, my words here are just my opinion and my opinion only. I have no personal knowledge about this case other that what I read on the internet and in the media. I have never met these two people who brought a child into the world, nor do I know any of their family or friends, their lawyers, their GAL, or even anyone who knows them. But I do understand and know how vindictive ex husbands and ex wives can be … and how they sometimes will use their child or children as weapons against the other … and maliciously the court system to do harm to the other parent.
She left him when the baby was 3 weeks old. She had tried all kinds of things to gain full custody. Now, she is married to an airman who has just been stationed in Texas. She cannot keep joint custody and leave the state unless she has some ammunition. What she isn’t realizing is that she has a history of accusations that have all proved false. She is now desperate and will do anything, even if it means hurt her child with this latest battle. She is trying to destroy Josh’s career, his Christian witness and the relationship that he has with his son. Now that, in my opinion, is horrendous if she is falsely accusing him. I do not trust her.
Why did she leave him? Most women, even unhappy ones, would wait till the baby was a little older before calling it quits.
She left both of them when the child was 3 weeks old.
Has she made sexual abuse allegations before? There are court cases where ex wives have made repeated allegations, only for each time after social service investigations have been all deemed unfounded. Some even outright frivolous. Also, has she ever abused drugs? Problems with alcoholism? Mental disorders? Why did she just walk out after the baby was born and leave her husband and child behind? Did he beat her? Did she not want the baby? What she promiscuous?
Post-partum depression?
I’ve seen it know it’s real.
Good question. And I am sure that will come out at trial.
So she has a motive. A motive to even make it look like the father sexually abused the child. A motive to coach the 3 year old to say things. Unless the step father? Now with the biological father charged, she gets full temporary custody and can leave the state with the child and do further brain washing and psychological damage.
WTF kind of last name is Hatmaker?
What is your last name, so we can see if its normal?
It’s probably asshatmakter.
That’s MR. Asshatmakter to you!!
Obviously, I meant “asshatmaker”, but I’m envious of your attention to detail.
Obviously, I meant “asshatmaker”, but I’m envious of your attention to detail.
It’s all in the details, :).
As a general rule* TBG doesn’t correct spelling mistakes, just uses cut and paste.
Several reasons ;
1) Fixing GT’s egregious errors would put TBG in overtime and the boss doesn’t want to pay time and a half.
2) Sometimes posters make clever, intentional misspellings that TBG doesn’t *get*. TBG would look “stoopid” *correcting* them.
3) The whole “pot/kettle” thing.
*Does not apply to professionals like FITS and his minions.
It is the other end of Shoemaker.
Gee, I wonder how a comment board made up mostly of retired & semi-retired, old, conservative, white men will feel about this?
Well, at least we know you’re not some of the above.
You wish.
You must not read here much. The commenters are mostly Democrats, anti Indian Americans (dots not feathers) and closted homosexuals who want perform fellatio on Folks.
You left out ‘flaming far left liberals’ and Obama blow up doll lovers.
As in “Don’t worry about getting turned down over and over by attractive women…”
There seems to be a lot of mixed information about this guy. Have there been two allegations of child abuse? If so were both related to his child and did the ex-wife make both allegations?
§ 22-5-510(B) provides that “[a] person charged with a bailable offense must have a bond hearing within twenty-four hours of his arrest
Too bad. I don’t think Mr. Haymaker or Mr. Kimbrell have heard about the “Crazy Hot Matrix”.
it is not uncommon for abuse allegations to be made during bitter divorce cases.
I don’t think it is as common for the accused parent to actually be arrested.
Look at her eyes and her smile, sinister, she can’t fool me, all con women look good and are charming. She’s ruthless, and she will use the influence of beauty to get what she wants. On the other hand, josh looks like the all american fine tuned wellspoken educated gentleman which makes me very suspicious. What did josh do to this women to make her so angry. He may present a choir boy image to the public but who is he really? Stay tuned..
He is a habitual liar. he never had custody of the child. He battered her. Threatened her and her family with a gun and ran out on her. The people who are believin all the lies he has told are going to look bad.
He and his family are strange people. They just have money and connections.
He is the one who has smeared her name to try and get custody.
What out. He is trouble.
hahaha …. prove it. hahahaahaha!
you have lost it…
True is a friend of Kacy. We need True to tell us more details.
I have been a friend of Kacy’s family for years, until the last year. I believe Josh is TOTALLY innocent in all this. Kacy is desperate and will do anything to move her son with her to Texas.
What happened to your friendship? Did she,her family and you have a falling out over something? I don’t understand, why would she be so desperate? People want to help. And I know this might be eating at you seeing what is going on, but maybe you can help by sharing what you know is happening?
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Being Josh Kimbrell is anti homosexual, it appears many of them have come out the woodwork to attack. him.
the dude was diddling his son that’s why the hottie left him thank God for all these hotties that keep catching these perverts just wish they could somehow manage it before they give birth to the innocent prey so sad thank you hotties
Come on! ….When the family court case was first started in 2011, the child was still a new born. What you are saying is she has 3 years of history throwing allegations at the father. There was a Guardian Ad Litem (another expensive lawyer) assigned to the case a few years ago who was getting her cut in fees. Women share domestic matters between their female friends … the tactics … what works .. .what does not …. what is the factory patent ways to beat and hurt their ex’s in child custody cases. This is one way they learn how to manipulate the system in their favor. Domestic court and domestic matters can be a cesspool of vindictiveness, crocodile tears, and pathological lying by litigants and their supporters. If he did something, fine. Hang him. But I have no faith in SC Child Protective Services who would be involved in this (especially with all the children who have been murdered in South Carolina under DSS oversight). DSS is being turned inside out and grilled. And this might just be a way for case workers to cover their asses by making it look like the father did something when he did not. And if something did happen, what about her new husband? Has he been ruled out? There are cases where 2nd, 3rd, 4th, whatever, husbands have molested step children — mothers molesting children, too. We shall see what happens in this case.
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So you are saying she knowingly abandoned her son to a child molester?
Gimme a break, that makes her worse than him. In your world, he would have to be a sicko, but she just could not be bothered! A good mother will fight to the death to protect her child.
There are women who run off with another while leaving their husband and children behind. And some of these women are not exactly trashy, either.
Trashy? I don’t know, but whack job? Yea.
A good baby Momma don’t leave the cub with nobody, no where, no time.
Whack jobs … tell me about it. Seen plenty of the Dr Jekyll Miss Hyde types. They come into the court room with a sad face trying to look all innocent, their lawyers sling all kinds of crazy factory patent accusations to the court that they barely can substantiated, if at all. Then after the hearing, the whack job is smiling and making statements like “I got kicked that son of a bitch’s ass real good … fuck him.” Then the lawyers out in the courthouse lobby talking about how the adversaries lawyer outright lied to the judge. Some even pretty pissed about it. But nothing is done – no complaints filed against the lying attorney. There are some pretty deceptive lawyers who will fan the flames when they know the litigants have money. Most of their client(s) are a one time thing.
sarcasm is wasted on yet another fine reader
Unintelligible sarcasm is a waste of effort.
We get it. The mother had been telling your that?
Hatmaker’s friends are trolling here. Changes were made just tonight on her FB page.
Her new husband’s Facebook page was also changed. Some pictures were removed. The child’s pictures were removed from public view on both Facebook sites. Just my opinion, but Josh’s Facebook page, Kacy’s page, and her new husband’s page showed a happy child. Certainly not that of an abused child.
I agree.
Something is rotten in Hatmakerville.
Josh tweeted that there was trouble brewing on October 2. I wonder if accusations were brought up back then. He had a family court date back then, too.
DSS investigators likely were asking him questions. That would be normal protocol in allegations brought against him prior to his arrest. At least he said something instead of remaining quiet.
http://www.greenvillecounty.org/familycourtdocket/DoCaseSearch.asp?case_number=2014-1964
The family court docket showed Oct 2 and Oct 6 as court dates. Then Joshua was arrested about a week or so later.
Joshua tweets for people to pray for him on Oct 2 because him and his son are facing an evil so bad he can’t talk about it.
https://twitter.com/Josh_Kimbrell
Emergency motions and hearings from. Can a 3 year old wipe its own butt? Can a 3 year old bath itself, wash its own hair, dry itself off?
Taking in the totality of the matter, most any parent would go into full on protective/defense mode from the public’s eyes. Thus, the removal and/or blockage of family photos in addition to any other information of a personal nature. Regardless of family photos showing a happy 3 year old, who would upload and post anything different? Additionally, 3 year olds have fragile, easily manipulated and misled minds. They can be coached on what to say – and told not to say – by who told them to say whatever, if you get my drift. This case against Josh’s will take months and months to run through the court. Along the way, the public will learn more. Its not like being able to seal a file in family court. His wife and her allies have chosen to make this a criminal matter which is much different. The public will eventually hear all the details – both negative and positive. And along the way, their is going to be vicious vile attempts at character assassination in all sorts of ways, whether they are true or not, fabricated, circumstantial, hearsay, outright lies, etc. When people testify under oath – with the penalty for perjury being five years in prison – we shall see. And those who will be submitting sworn under oath affidavits that are bogus lies, take warning to that too. This case is going to be under the public’s microscope until it is closed. And for good reason. There are just too many people who want to take Josh down. Both democrats and the homosexual community, and his ex wife who may just want total control. Her new husbands background should be looked into all the way back to the day he was born.
I saw all the pictures and post on their pages too, before they went totally friends only. Wasn’t nothing there …. a few pics of their son … her new husband … But you could see all of their friends list, too. But all blocked. They obviously were alerted last night they were being checked out.
On Josh’s website he announced the birth of his son in June 2011. Since some posters here said she left him 3 weeks later, I decided to see what he was writing about during that time frame and when SHE filed for divorce. That period of time, summer – fall 2011 is totally scrubbed. Even went to the wayback machine and didn’t find anything. This is something he did before his arrest, because he was still in jail when I looked at his website. Josh is now out of jail – no longer listed as an inmate.
Perhaps he was not writing in Facebook at that time of stress and discomfort. The mother of his child was abandoning their newborn and himself so it was not likely he was playing cheerfully on Facebook.
Why would he want to air his family troubles on fakebook? Many are above that kind of crap. If they need a listening ear, a few world of support … he has plenty of real friends around him to call on.
You should’ve sent someone to the courthouse to copy the records rather than look up the website which you knew wouldn’t contain anything.
( doesn’t know how to red letters on line saying records are “SEALED”)
AUGUST 2013 — The Silent Tears study was funded with $250,000 from local businessman and GOP donor Bob Castellani and his wife, Lisa.
It said that in many respects, the [child-protection] system in South Carolina is among the [best] in the nation.
http://www.thestate.com/2013/08/10/2912149/increase-in-child-sexual-abuse.html
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14 MONTHS LATER:
OCTOBER 2014 — Children falling through cracks at South Carolina Social Services, audit finds. Two years ago, the state’s child welfare agency started referring some cases of alleged child abuse to outside contractors for help. The tax payers of SC had to foot the bill for above normal cost and hourly fees by these contractors – many who are not skilled nor experienced enough to qualify conducting child abuse investigations.
http://www.thestate.com/2014/10/03/3720800/long-awaited-social-services-review.html#storylink=cpy
Castellani, like other rich people, will do anything to be associated with the Governor, Senators and Congressmen. These rich people have money so they are trying to buy prestige. They often sell their should along the way.
Need to know how much DSS spent on each case and who they hired, who picked and chose, who authorized, connections, etc.
Real talk: To Josh and his supporters. If you want to clear your name once and for all, seek the professional advice of William H. Burke, LPC. He always advocates for the victim. However, if Josh is innocent, Dr Burke will find out. His testimony in any court proceeding will carry the day if he finds Josh is innocent.
Women, in the midst of a bad divorce, often say their husband is gay or a child abuser or some such. It is difficult to prove innocence and painful for the man and his close family and friends.
Men will often say their wives are unfaithful or unwilling to provide marital comfort. It is difficult to prove innocence and painful for the man and his close family and friends.
Bad divorces bring out the worst in people. It is a good practice to not listen to the claims, and to not believe what you hear.
Since he has been arrested, and the sealed family court file is now relevant to the prosecution’s case, it will be unsealed and made a part of this matter.
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And what about transcripts from his General Session bond hearing? Always there is a court reporter in that setting. Get those records to find out what was said. They are public just like the hearing was.
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The public will learn what went on in his divorce by those records. Pay close attention to this case and the court. Josh needs to go to a full on trial, do full discovery with subpoenas served on anyone records who are connected with his ex wife, even her parents, their siblings, and her husbands parents and their siblings. I am willing to bet, that some of Kacy’s friends or family members have given her advice, perhaps even based on their own past allegations and experiences in domestic matters. He needs a Matlock attorney … one who is not a member and/or donator to the democratic party, nor pro homosexual. Perhaps a law firm out of North Carolina can put up defense. But then, DSS child protective services is a joke anyway. And those private groups operating as contractors for DSS, contractors that DSS has been paying with your tax dollars, are not exactly all that great either.
Kimbrell is faced with a MANDANTORY minimum of twenty-five years (25) in prison, no part of which may be suspended nor probation granted, or must be imprisoned for life. SC Code of Laws SECTION 16-3-655. Criminal sexual conduct with a minor; aggravating and mitigating circumstances; penalties; repeat offenders ……….
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(A) A person is guilty of criminal sexual conduct with a minor in the first degree if: …
(1) the actor engages in sexual battery with a victim who is less than eleven years of age …………..
In the case of a person pleading guilty or nolo contendere to a violation of subsection (A)(1), the judge must make a specific finding on the record regarding whether the type of conduct that constituted the sexual battery involved sexual or anal intercourse by a person or intrusion by an object. In the case of a person convicted at trial for a violation of subsection (A)(1), the judge or jury, whichever is applicable, must designate as part of the verdict whether the conduct that constituted the sexual battery involved sexual or anal intercourse by a person or intrusion by an object ……
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You might as well say ‘life behind bars’ ….. Best to pick 12. The trial could last for weeks, and everything comes out in the open. Lots of testimony and cross examinations under oath .. experts … friends …. Kacy’s new husband … Kacy’s friends … family .. Josh’s friends and family … Unless … Unless … there is DNA that was retrieved from … or ….. and a test done to determine who’s it was. Or other … It will all come out. For his charge to carry a mandated 25 years to life, is bond sure is super low ($25,000) ….
Perhaps the circuit court judge that set Kimbrell’s bond feels the case might be kind of weak?
I guess there are perverts of all stripes, but it’s kind of difficult to imagine a man getting off on diddling his own 3-year-old son.
Maybe he was just changing a diaper?
[insert hot/crazy matrix here]
1) I NEVER heard of this guy until he gets accused. Now he’s the leader of the International Conservative movement, according to FITS.
2) I would say, if this is a lie, FITS looks like a F*#king Dumb@$$…but too late to make that claim.
3) If the ONLY molestation claim is against his own child…this already LOOKS REAL BAD for the accuser, and FITS, who is praying this guy did this.
You need to back the fuck off from cyber harassment (which is both a state and federal crime).
LMAO…By threatening, didn’t you just harass me? How can I turn you in…Hahahaha…
Actually, you are wrong. This would not qualify under the law as harassment/ cyberstalking.
What did SCPD do wrong this time, besides talking to himself under his many altered egos and names?
There must’ve been some major back and forth mud slinging in Greenville. The TV stations in that area scrubbed and removed from their website most every single comment about this case. I checked this morning. Hundreds have been deleted. At least it has been civil here on this one. Not a bunch of hate filled and vile attacks going on.
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Maybe some should look to Mauldin and Ft. Inn for their records…The current charge/accusation was filed first with those to agencies and both failed to arrest because there was no evidence. Now the political Greenville Sheriffs Office is able to find something? They do good to find their way to work…… If Ft. Inn Police says there is nothing then based on my knowledge of that agency, there was nothing to be found.
“who is still being held behind bars without bond” – Gosh, fitsnews isn’t much of a journalist. Can’t even take the time to find out why he WAS held and explain that to us. Or to update us with the news that he was granted bond.
“We’ve covered this story extensively given Kimbrell’s close connections to several prominent elected officials…” And we also know that fitnews is NOT objective. The site has as its goal to smear anyone that it disagrees with while likely suppressing news of any alleged criminal activity that would put those it supports in a bad light.
“What do we know about her? Not much …” And couldn’t fitsnews have at least TRIED to find out something about her and her new husband? I can’t imagine that it would have taken much effort to find out if she still lives in the Greenville area. (Yes, but only because of custody?) What the current custody arrangement is. (Does she or Josh have primary custody? Can the child be taken out of state under the current arrangement?) Who her new husband is. (An airman recently restationed to Texas?) I’m only commenting because this story caught my eye and the obvious bias of fitsnews needs to have some of that light they are trying to shine on those they disagree with reflected back on them.
Of course no one will read these comments since the non-existent attention span of today means everyone has moved on …. ooooo …. look at that cat playing with lizard…..
So you want me to presume his innocence while in the very next paragraph placing guilt on his wife, and then ask me to donate to his legal fund?
Marriage is a sacred vow. Glad we have righteous god fearing people still defending it.
Just to get this straight, the guy that talks for a living, the guy that is cozy with all these politicians, the guy that has his own PR team is not spinning this in any way. It’s the evil woman that is behind this nefarious plot. Because: WOMEN, MAN. HAHA. YOU KNOW WHAT I’M SAYING. CHICKS, DUDE. ALL MY EX’S ARE CRAZY TOO. LOL. SAYS RIGHT THERE IN THE GOOD BOOK THEY’RE NOT AS GOOD AS MEN. LOL
Okie dokie.
Another Ted Haggard you’ll defend til he snorting meth off your ass in a hotel room.
This would be hilarious if it weren’t for the child caught in the middle.
Kimbrell is a neocon of the worst sort. Full of religious heresy, if he’s not on the Israeli payroll, he’s being cheated.
Kinbrell is no leader in the Upcountry at all. He has a few so-called Christian-Zionist ministers in his back pocket, nothing more.