School Choice Is Working
SO WHY NOT EXPAND IT? By FITSNEWS || Earlier this week, more than a dozen grants were issued to exceYou must Subscribe or log in to read the rest of this content.
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NPR had an interesting story on charter schools working in New Orleans after Katrina. I think nearly every school there is a privately run school now.
Charter Schools are public schools. In NO Admission is by lottery. You can’t buy you way into a school over someone else. This is nothing like the rich people should have the best schools policy proposed by the SC school choice crowd.
If you want to require all private school to do admittance on an anonymous lottery basis I might agree your point is relevant to SC.
Pay up,or shut up.
Remarkable and full of common sense. South Carolina is only about 15 years behind the power curve here. Good work!
Yep.Great work indeed and thanks to Fits for posting this.
If it lets you choose a school in another state, then yes it would be working.
I might be more supportive of a deduction for these charitable donations rather than a tax credit. Are there other charitable donations that our General Assembly have deemed worthy of a tax credit? Please list some.
None. This is just a way to funnel parents money to private schools at the taxpayer expense. Even the organizations that pledge not to give money to the children of donors have loop hole. Parent A contributes to Charity B. Parent B contributes to charity A. Charity A gives money to child of Parent B and Charity B gives money to child of Parent A.
Also, what does it mean School Choice is working?. How so?. What evidence is there the children who received these scholarships would not be in private school if they had not received them. There is not even a requirement that both parents work.
Its a scam, but a miniscule one compared to the ultimate goal of the state paying all private school tuition.
More to the point, children whose parents will support and push their children to succeed provide an environment where that child WILL succeed regardless of public or private school status. Went to both public schools and parochial school. I was successful in both. Parental involvement was the reason.
Parents of private school kids pay taxes that go to public schools, so what are you really whining about? Think about this- taxpayers who don’t have kids are paying for public schools! If that’s not a scam, nothing is.
“If that’s not a scam, nothing is.”
I respectfully disagree. While this may not apply to every single community, the quality of schools directly and heavily influences the value of surrounding property.
Therefore, the general rule (obviously, there are exceptions) is that poor schools result in poor or declining property values.
That theory is valid, but in execution it is obviously not working just in the amount of inadequate graduates that are being cranked out. So there is room and validity for childless people to complain. Also, people who value their children enough to educate them at home additionally beyond public school teaching tend to value and take care of their property. In Florida, the Seniors will skin you alive in the middle of a Bob Evans for saying what you did.
All very good points. Again, it is a general rule. While the general rule may not entirely follow “the script,” it is hardly a “scam” as was suggested.
A “Ponzi scheme” is a scam (e.g. Social Security).
“Therefore, the general rule (obviously, there are exceptions) is that poor schools result in poor or declining property values.”
…which has nothing to do with taking money from people to educate other people’s kids. Your assumption is that doing this is required for good schools.
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“…which has nothing to do with taking money from people to educate other people’s kids.”
Huh? Read the whole conversation. MashPotato claimed that it is a scam to tax citizens for the purpose of education (in part) when these particular citizens do not have children (essentially are not directly benefiting from the education).
My response was that this is not a scam per se because there are other intangible benefits to having a quality education system (albeit this assumes that tax dollars equate to improved education).
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“Your assumption is that doing this is required for good schools.”
Again, read the whole conversation. I specifically noted that this is a general rule. Obviously, there are exceptions. Tazmaniac was kind enough to highlight the obvious exception found in “retirement resort” property in Florida. I’m sure there are many others.
The bottom line is that taxing (for education) only those that directly send their kid’s to a particular public school heavily seems unfair when many additional benefits are gained as a direct result of the school, and its quality.
If a husband and wife are employed by a school (say, as teachers) yet are unable to have children, or choose not to, is it unfair to say they are benefiting from the presence of this school? If a school district’s high quality rating (i.e. Lexington District 1) heavily influences the desirability for relocation to that area–thus, positively impacting the local economy, is it unfair to tax those that do not send their children to this school?
I assume you could make the argument that only tractor-trailer drivers (or their owners) should pay a gasoline tax since a single axle on a fully loaded truck does more damage than approximately 10,000 passenger cars.
To assure all children access to quality education public schools are necessary. Private Schools select students based on money and connections. They are not available to all children. The state guarantees everyone an education, as well it should, and the quality of your education should not be determined by your parent’s wealth.
Parents of private school kids pay taxes that go to public schools
That’s because parents of private school kids can, at any time of their choosing, enroll their children in public schools.
The state has an obligation to provide public education. It is no more a scam than asking me to help pave the road in front of your house, or a bridge over the Cooper River.
Department of Commerce has one. Same dollar for dollar option. It’s been going on for years.
If you claim a child care program credit for donations to a nonprofit corporation (Schedule TC-9), you are not allowed a deduction for those donations. The disallowed deductions are an addition to federal taxable income.
If you claim credits such as the Community Development Credit (Schedule TC-14), the Industry Partnership Fund Credit (Schedule TC-36), or the Credit for Child Care Program (Schedule TC-9), you may not claim a deduction for the same qualified contribution which results in credits.
Freedom works, go figure.
School choice is working? More like Sic is lying.
This is nothing but more voucher scam rhetoric. Vouchers are a scam no matter what you call them – tax credits, educational credits, blah, blah, blah.
It’s just the latest version of Howie the Voucher Clown’s voucher scam.
The giant sucking sound we have heard over and over and over has been the S.C. Legislature wisely sending the voucher scam to the sewer where it belongs.
Howie and his Voucher Clowns just keep changing the perfume and lipstick on the voucher pig, but it’s still a scam because it does nothing for those who need help the most.
BIN News
Flair and Balanced
You mean helping some people flee public schools doesn’t actually help everyone?
I know several kids who have been helped by St Thomas Aquinas. It is an excellent organization. It does good work. If this is an indication of how school choice is going to work, I say let’s do it!!!!