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shifty henry September 24, 2014 at 5:07 pm

Hmmmm, just how old is Zeke – and his brother Rahm?

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euwe max September 24, 2014 at 6:34 pm

I keep expecting to hear that he collapsed while choking on chitterlings… the somber faces.. the motorcade… the eternal flame..

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shifty henry September 24, 2014 at 9:36 pm

The bets around here it would be a chicken bone. Don’t know if someone could choke on chitlins…

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euwe max September 25, 2014 at 12:57 am

if someone can choke on a pretzel, they can damn sure choke on chitlins.

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Soft Sigh from Hell September 24, 2014 at 5:25 pm

EAT THE OLD!

Heck, why go half way?

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euwe max September 24, 2014 at 6:33 pm

When I first heard that on the radio in college, I had to pull over onto the shoulder to avoid getting into a wreck!

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Blinking Red September 24, 2014 at 7:47 pm Reply
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steve September 24, 2014 at 5:25 pm

Carousel!

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Blinking Red September 24, 2014 at 7:45 pm Reply
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Realist September 24, 2014 at 5:28 pm

I agree w/ him. Spending year after year drooling in a nursing home, unable to wipe your own ass, is no way to live. Just because science can keep someone alive doesn’t mean it should.

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idcydm September 24, 2014 at 5:34 pm

How long before you reach the drooling nursing home stage? Now be real about and answer the question.

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euwe max September 24, 2014 at 7:44 pm

BTW are you old enough to wipe your own ass yet?

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awww… that’s so sweet… offering to help with such a personal and sensitive hygiene issue!

…sacrificing your own comfort for the special needs of another.. I wasn’t prepared for that. [lip vibrates, eye waters]

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Blinking Red September 24, 2014 at 7:48 pm

Just like an Ebola doctor!

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euwe max September 24, 2014 at 7:54 pm

Or a proctologist that only treats Republicans.

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idcydm September 24, 2014 at 9:22 pm

Yes some of us will sacrifice our own comfort for the special needs of other, my family has already done that for my mother, God rest her soul. When my 94 year old father needs the help we will be there for him also, we will not put him in a nursing home.

Save your tears for yourself, sounds like you’ll need them.

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euwe max September 24, 2014 at 9:48 pm

I kept mom as long as I could. I finally decided that I could no longer responsibly provide and care simultaneously for an Alzheimer patient prone to UTI. One day, she was suspiciously quiet, and I found she had a stroke, and fallen on a table, breaking her wrist. She quietly went back to bed and covered her arm. I only discovered it by luck. Shortly after that, I got married, and my wife helped care for her until it overcame her too. A larger family might have made it possible, but we finally had to accept she needed 24/7 professional care. We spent our time after that, making sure they were doing their job.

The cost of assisted living and finally hospice, in my home, both in dollars and effort is too much for an orphaned son.

I only cry when the hero dies if the lights are out. I leave the drama queen stuff to people who think their shit doesn’t stink.

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48 hours September 24, 2014 at 9:52 pm

You lying piece of shit….in my opinion you killed her.Hope the police investigate.

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idcydm September 24, 2014 at 9:55 pm

We all know what opinions are like.

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euwe max September 25, 2014 at 12:56 am

There’s always two sides to every story.

Republicans make a good living on the other story.

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idcydm September 24, 2014 at 9:55 pm

Sounds like you were a good son, may your mother rest in peace.

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48 hours September 24, 2014 at 10:00 pm

May she rest in a pile of shit and be eaten by maggots.

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Yep! September 24, 2014 at 11:13 pm

You know, I get the troll stuff. I really do.

Sometimes a well timed, inflammatory statement jolts people from their mental stupefaction and actually serves a purpose. It opens up new avenues of thought, etc.

In your case though, your comments serve to inflame for no such noble purpose. You are in effect, the actual fecal matter of trolldom.

It’s a lowly spot for sure, but even within that family your particular brand of feces is that of a carnivore, completely unsuitable for even a garden. In essence, only good for marking territory. Your motto:

“This is my area, because I both shit and eat here.”

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euwe max September 25, 2014 at 2:05 am

It can be funny if done right… and like you said, shock can be positive.

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Yep! September 25, 2014 at 8:58 am

I agree, and I’m guilty. I focus on purposeful trolling.

“The purpose driven life.”

:)

Which is an irony, because I’m agnostic….lol

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euwe max September 25, 2014 at 9:05 am

agnostic
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which explains the “it just works” perspective on “non aggression” and “the free market.” You’re a strange and colorful bird, roosting with the brutish vultures in the libertarian tree… your optimism and upbeat outlook, bordering on being naive seems… out of place. :)

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Yep! September 25, 2014 at 9:47 am

Eternal hope can be naive, but it’s better than the alternative. That’s why I never criticizer Believers, even if my rationality says otherwise.

Man’s progression has always been rooted in hope though, we just never know when it’s irrational generally speaking.

Also, I have to say at least my “it just works” philo has yet to be fully tested…we all know that government for the most part doesn’t work.

:)

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euwe max September 25, 2014 at 10:01 am

by that reasoning we should try Christianity – it hasn’t been fully tested either. :)

but to be fair, it’s had more public attempts.

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Yep! September 25, 2014 at 10:02 am

I have, it just didn’t feel right…

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euwe max September 25, 2014 at 12:18 pm

I know exactly what you mean.

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euwe max September 25, 2014 at 1:27 am

…and there’s always the pragmatic Republican point of view… also known as: “it is what it is.”

You’re an amateur. Now TiG and Celt.. *they* knew how to gather death threats, and burn down a forum! TiG owned a liquor store, and to pass the time, hacked forum HTML pages just so he could post obscenities uncensored, and edit his own messages to create threads that were masterpieces of personal insult.

Sometimes he’d go through more than 100 handles and IP addresses in a single day. The ABC news forum had to go lights out more than once because of his mischief…

TiG stands for “Texas is Great.” He found “backboards,” abandoned forums without any members, boards only used by ABC employees, even a board used by their system operators.. and used them as base camps to test out scripts, create new handles, and communicate with other board raiders and naer-do-wells.

I guess you could say he took being a troll to an art form, and became a true master of it. In the fledgling internet world of snarling, simple-minded, pre-teen, semi-literate sociopaths with cognitive disabilities and a grudge against mommy, he was a god.

I’ve seen computer programs with more originality than you’ve shown so far.

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Red Menace September 25, 2014 at 6:43 pm

TIG was the genuine article.
He did all that and more.
He was quite adept at physics too.
He is likely hacking Satan’s Hell.gov network as we speak.

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euwe max September 26, 2014 at 12:40 am

When we all get there, he’ll probably have some kind of labyrinth all mapped out with air conditioners and exits topside.

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euwe max September 25, 2014 at 1:08 am

Thanks, but I was a little shit who thought he knew everything. I still am.

Life was very hard on her. A single woman in a man’s world with a brat in tow. She was born to share croppers in true poverty. I’ll never know what that was like – because of her.

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good point, let'em die September 24, 2014 at 9:39 pm

Your not talking about people who are kept alive by science and artificial means, the example your citing is of people who can’t perform activities of daily living, but don’t need – say an atrificial lung to breath. By your analysis infants who can’t feed themselves or wipe their own asses should be left to die also. This would include a lot of war vets, and other mentally and on Cally disable…

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idcydm September 24, 2014 at 9:48 pm

Since Stephen Hawking is 72 years of age, I wonder what he would think of Realist?

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9" September 24, 2014 at 5:46 pm

People should read the article,instead of Fit’s ridiculous,hyperbolic paraphrase(typical). ACA is working in other states.
If you’re dying from Hep C,there’s effective treatment,if you’ve got 1,000 dollars a pill.
Go,Big Pharma!
Healthcare is not left or right.It’s real expensive,so don’t get sick.

“All cats are libertarians. Completely dependent on others but fully convinced of their own independence.”

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Mr. Friendly September 24, 2014 at 7:50 pm

You’re just pissed that AIDS is going to bankrupt you and still kill you anyway.

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FastEddy23 September 24, 2014 at 10:00 pm

1- all cats are small “l” libertarians = not joiners, period.
2- Correct. Healthcare is not or should not be political at all … Oh Bummer.
3- Hep-C is effectively treated without expensive pills or ‘BummerCare. I have it and mine is quite under control … At a cost of about $150 per treatment, four times per year since 1992. (I kid you not.)
4- Fitsnews.com is doing us all a service by stuffing the taxsucking g’ment propaganda skewers with a fear mongering headline… If that is what it takes to get “progressives” to squeal like stuffed piggies. (See “Animal Farm” for details.)

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9" September 28, 2014 at 7:13 pm

You have Hepatitis C,but haven’t heard of,Sovaldi,which cures the disease,and keeps it from being spread ?
From what you describe,you’ll probably need a liver transplant,before long.That’s extremely painful,and transplants don’t always go well…

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FastEddy23 September 29, 2014 at 1:55 pm

Mine turned up in 1992 and I started treatments then. To date my doctor and staff tell me that my liver is back up to “95% efficiency”. After numerous recent scans and tests, no signs of deterioration, thanks for asking.

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Guero September 25, 2014 at 8:36 pm

Billy Folks is still butt hurt the Heritage Foundation, some of his favorite wingnuts, are the godfathers of Obamacare( which is a resounding success!)

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CUTOM September 24, 2014 at 5:47 pm

Snide comments aside, if we follow this path, we are trending towards “Logan’s Run.” Rather scary.

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shifty henry September 24, 2014 at 9:31 pm

Soylent Green…?

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bogart September 24, 2014 at 6:18 pm

Was this article written by Rush Limbaugh?

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Smirks September 24, 2014 at 6:22 pm

Growing population a good thing? Err, okay, ask how China or India feels about that…

All this fearmongering about soshulist gubmint healthcare is funny considering the ACA not only leaves the keys in the hands of for profit private industries, but further entrenches the insurance/employer middlemen. We aren’t even remotely close to actual government-run healthcare, but if you listen to the GOP or the lolbertarians, our system makes the NHS look like right wing extremism.

The point of healthcare is to serve a need of the general populace. Since healthcare can literally be a bottomless well you can throw cash into, obviously at some point restraint has to be shown lest we all go bankrupt. The right absolutely gets this, it is why they justify letting the poors rot on the street (this notion got L. Ron Paul an applause), why they are fine with lifetime maximums on policies, why insurance companies are absolutely justified to not cover some things, etc. they don’t perceive themselves as potential victims of this, so whatever, right?

I don’t think “restraint” should mean “kill old people,” but if that is what the right wants to equate this discussion to, why bother discussing any of this at all? Just go back to offing or bankrupting the serfs for having the audacity to get sick or injured. “As long as it ain’t my ass, why should I care?!”

(And of course, don’t forget the calls by some on the right that people should be expected to work into their 70s and 80s.)

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TontoBubbaGoldstein September 24, 2014 at 8:49 pm

“lolbertarians”

What are you? GrandTango’s acolyte?

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+1 September 24, 2014 at 9:08 pm

He’s Grand Tango, without the charm. They post about the same amount too. Maybe GT is Smirk’s sock puppet.

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euwe max September 25, 2014 at 2:20 am

I’m sure it was nothing personal.. besides, didn’t libertarians all agree not to be offended by being bagged on at the “High and Mighty” summit at the La Blanc Spa and Resort last year?

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euwe max September 24, 2014 at 6:39 pm

Why don’t you make money on this idea?

Sell a plastic bag that is used to contain the blood spatter from suicide by gun, and a device that fits any head, has a universal gun grip, and an automatic trigger mechanism. Just pull the transparent bag over your head, attach the gun, set the timer, and settle down in the recliner for the evening news.

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euwe max September 24, 2014 at 7:05 pm

Finally, Scott Walker gets a chance to clear his good name!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/24/scott-walker-investigation_n_5877466.html

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SC Political Digest September 24, 2014 at 8:09 pm

Who told you PRE-Nov.-2012, while FITS was busy bashing the H#!! out of Mitt Romney?

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takeyourownmedicine September 24, 2014 at 8:35 pm

OK, Zeke…you go first!

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Sailor September 24, 2014 at 8:38 pm

I’ll wait for this asshole to lead by example!

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RogueElephant September 24, 2014 at 8:46 pm

From the perspective of a 40 something type, 75 is really old. However when he gets closer to it he will “realize the value of senior citizens”. That is unless he hiccups and the death panels say he isn’t worth caring for anymore.

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libs are evil September 24, 2014 at 9:34 pm

Liberals love death as they are dead inside and have no soul. Former Surgeon General C. Everette Koop predicted this “slippery slope” of devaluing the sanctity of life. Euthenasia and the death panels are just an extention of abortion that has killed over 50 million children since Roe V. Wade.

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not in my womb! September 24, 2014 at 9:42 pm

Abortion doesn’t kill people, guns do, errr…wait.

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RogueElephant September 25, 2014 at 7:48 am

If there was a way to issue guns to fetuses there might be some changes in abortion clinics. LOL

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Johnny Cash September 25, 2014 at 9:15 am

“Everybody says they want to die before 80, until it is their turn”.

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asystole September 24, 2014 at 8:43 pm

My uncle lived to nearly 103…sharp as a tack! Apparently Dr.E is ignorant of the Hippocratic Oath…not surprising given his political orientation. ..

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euwe max September 25, 2014 at 9:40 am

Too bad about your uncle.. would you have put him on a machine if it would have kept him breathing, and something like brain waves bouncing around in his head?

For how many more years?

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TontoBubbaGoldstein September 24, 2014 at 8:45 pm

Sounds great, Zeki!!!
You go first.

[Ezekiel Emanuel – Born 1957

TBG – Born 1965]

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Same ol' Same ol' September 24, 2014 at 9:18 pm

Fuku EZE. If you’re alive and well at 75, pull the plug on urself, publicly, no matter what your condition. Set an example.
My dad is 83, big, strong man, good mind, hell, wouldn’t surprise me if he outlived me. So, what is this going to be, Logan’s run?
What a dumbass.

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FastEddy23 September 24, 2014 at 9:48 pm

No, Let’s all agree to kill “progressives” at age 75.

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For the betterment of society September 25, 2014 at 8:45 am

Emanuel is secure in the knowledge that as a leftist elite he will escape the “humane” edicts imposed on the lowly serfs.

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euwe max September 25, 2014 at 9:36 am

I just opened a paypal account to help support my new gun nut foundation. Our mission? to eradicate killer apps!

Now, who’s with me????

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idiotwind September 25, 2014 at 2:21 pm

This should confirm to everyones satisfaction that fits and GT are the same person. Told u so months ago.

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Juan Caruso September 25, 2014 at 5:01 pm

This is America (USA). Those who agree with Ezekiel Emanuel are entitled to follow his convenient invitation. The majority of us, however, under the Bill of Rights, are entitled to maintain our lives as granted by higher authority than central government.

Die at 75 and you can no longer vote, a fact which curiously suits those who want to cede U.S. sovereignty amd our exceptional Constitution to an even larger central authority — world government à la the fantastically corrupt and incompetent U.N.

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