Dear Editor;
You asked for this information, so I went out and got it. Here is what I’ve found in a brief search of verifiable sources. I’ve skipped the whole Facebook as a source thing. As you know Michael Brown was shot and killed by a police officer on August 9, 2014. In the time since then, two police officers have been shot and killed in the line of duty: Chief Michael Pimental of the Elmendorf, Texas police department and Daryl Pierson of the Rochester, NY police department.
Chief Pimental was shot and killed by a Hispanic male and Ptl. Pierson was shot and killed by a black male. Both police officers were white. Attorney General Eric Holder made no moves to conduct an investigation into the immigration status of the man who shot and killed Chief Pimental and made no move to impose a consent decree against the New York Department of Corrections since the black man who shot and killed Ptl. Pierson was on parole/probation. Those numbers do not include a Puerto Rican police officer shot and killed during a narcotics investigation (Hispanic male killed by a Hispanic male), or a sheriff’s deputy (white) who was struck and killed by a car driven by a white male fleeing arrest.
During 2012 (most recent statistics available from the FBI) there were 48 police officers killed in the line of duty. Of those 48 officers, 42 were white and 6 were black. Of the 51 offenders identified in connection with the 48 killings of police officers, 30 were white and 16 were black.
So it appears that folks of every color are killing each other. I don’t recall seeing riots, protests or Department of Justice investigations when police officers are killed in the line of duty. No one is holding entire communities responsible for the actions of one suspect when that suspect has killed a police officer. But, if a police officer kills a suspect, then there are riots and questions about the skin color of the suspect and officer. Are there as many questions asked if a black police officer kills a white suspect? What about a white police officer who kills a white suspect? Or a black police officer killing a black suspect?
The time of making assumptions based on skin color is long gone. Lets make assumptions based on actions, behaviors and character. There are bad cops. Just as there are bad lawyers, doctors, accountants and assembly line workers. Studies have shown that there are fewer bad cops than there are bad actors in other professions. A 22-year study by Arizona State University showed that of all the officers terminated by the New York City Police Department, less than 5 percent were terminated for Abuse of Force. More officers were terminated for administrative violations and drug use than for brutality.
Please think about these numbers when you cover these issues in the future.
Sincerely,
“A Cop”
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72 comments
It sounds like this police officer thinks we should be holding law enforcement agencies to the same standard we hold (alleged) criminals?
What? Rule of law, due process, and all that? Oh, the HORROR!!! What will the public do with all that rope they’ve been buying for the lynching????
Thank You! from the wife of a COP!
I support you and husband 100%.
How many dogs have been shot by cops since Ferguson?
Umm…..only the ones attacking officers?
So it appears that folks of every color are killing each other. I don’t recall seeing riots, protests or Department of Justice investigations when police officers are killed in the line of duty.
People don’t riot because they’re sad someone died. Riots tend to happen when a people feel the need to rebel against another group of people or an authority they perceive as oppressive or unjust, or feel otherwise threatened by. This is the case when it comes to lynchings and race riots, riots against government, riots against public/private establishments, riots against police, etc.
It isn’t just that a black kid got shot in Ferguson, it is that the black community there already showed distrust with the local law enforcement before this happened and became incensed at not only an unarmed black kid being shot, but at the initial witness testimonies that were heard and the initial responses that the police gave to the public.
You’re the ignorant myth-based pawn he is addressing. Like I said; You’re too dense to know how stupid you’re making yourself look.
You’re too dense to know how stupid you’re making yourself look.
Right back at ya.
Oh, the irony.
…Oh, the irony.
The irony is so delicious…it must be fattening.
When you die you don’t know it, but everyone around you is in pain. Kind of like stupidity.
He wasn’t a black “kid”. Just like Teryvon wasn’t a black “kid”. Maybe in the baby momma’s eyes, but to a cop or anyone else, a huge threat.
Not to condone the cop’s actions, mind you. Cops seem to cop a huge attitude when they put on the uniform and tote a gun. Best to stay out of the way.
It isn’t the cop’s attitude, but rather the fact that you don’t like being told you are doing something wrong and being forced to face the consequences of your actions.
Nah, sometimes it’s just the attitude. Cops deal with the assholes of society much of their day, so naturally they become such as well.
How do you know, ever been a cop. I bet you have had prior run-in’s, been arrested before or had your share of traffic tickets.Funny my 27 years as a police officer,I’ve never had a complaint by a good citizen that came in contact with me professional,but had my share with the mopes on the street who terrorize good people. Spoke to an LACSD officer way back when iI was extraditing a guy. He told me horror stories of the Watts district root back in 1967. Nope the person who spoke about the mob mentality is right on the button. All these people want is something for nothing to lazy to work, easier to stand on a street corner and sell dope. How about rioters in los angles,cables. Watts riot having people direct traffic so thrives could cross the street safely. Never been in a riot other than in my dept. county jail, but spent a lot of time working in the projects of Gary, In. Once known as the murder capital of the USA. Like to knock cops fine, don’t call for one when you need one.
“He wasn’t a black “kid”. ”
Michael Brown was 18 years old and Trayvon Martin was 17 years old – both kids in my book. Being black is not a “huge threat” – no matter how many times YOU think it is. What was Trayvon Martin doing that was threatening? Last time I checked a bag of skittles does not scare most folks.
BOTH Treydead and “Baby Huey” Brown were considerably larger than their victims and capable of inflicting great bodily injury or death with bare hands. Both tried.
Do you think that War Machine should have his charges reduced to simple assault just because he was “unarmed” when he beat both Christie Mack and her new boyfriend? Disparity in physical size and strength are justifications for use of higher levels of force, up to and including deadly force. It isn’t about making an incident some kind of “fair fight” between cops and criminals, but rather about bringing a situation under control as rapidly as possible with as little injury as possible. People are most likely to get hurt when the criminal believes he has a chance to get away.
Blues, try applying your logic in the Brown case to the War Machine/ Christie Mack case, and imagine she shot him when he beat her. See if you can still come to the same conclusion.
“BOTH Treydead and “Baby Huey” Brown . . . ”
I could tell from your very first line that you were not to be taken seriously.
“See if you can still come to the same conclusion.”
If Trayvon had been white and murdered by a black man with a gun that black man would be in prison on death row right now.
“See if you can still come to the same conclusion.”
If Trayvon had been white and murdered by a black man with a gun that black man would be in prison on death row right now.
Are you saying that cops are pussies with guns?
You are a fool. Skittles no; but what about having your head bashed into the sidewalk. Guess you forgot about that. Trayvon got what he deserved.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-05-18/George-Zimmerman-Trayvon-Martin-police-documents/55061830/1
Wow… so I guess Trayvon told Zimmerman to exit his vehicle? Had he stayed in his car as he was instructed by the dispatcher, none of this would’ve happened. He thought that he was going to scare the kid and ended up biting off more than he could chew. He should have been convicted of manslaughter and behind bars right now.
“People don’t riot because they’re sad someone died. Riots tend to happen
when a people feel the need to rebel against another group of people or
an authority they perceive as oppressive or unjust, or feel otherwise
threatened by.”
I disagree.
If they rebel against another group or authority why does the destruction and looting always take place in the rioters backyard? Riots happen because opportunist take advantage of a situation and a mob mentality takes over.
“Perceive”!
Not distrust, but rather a desire for revenge against the police for DARING to interfere in their “bidness” by enforcing the law. This is the new norm across the nation…. not restricted to any particular race, but rather a behavior created by a weak society who no longer accepts the idea that actions have consequences. Criminals now freely file false complaints against officers as revenge for getting arrested. Media loves to sensationalize a story, and everyone loves the whole rebellion mythos. Even after the officer is exonerated, no consequences are attached to the person who lied. It’s simply societal sociopathy.
Look, how bout y’all go down the coner sto, buy yosef some Swishers, and kick back with a blunt and forget all this nasty stuff.
Don’ forget the 40 boy.
Holder, Sharpton, Jackson and the sort gain nothing from speaking out against all violence, speaking out against “white on black” violence is the only way they see to profit.
There is an entire cable news network (you figure it out) that only speaks out on black on white violence and reaps enormous profits – Holder, Sharpton and Jackson do not even come close to leveling the playing field.
Even the FBI and Mainstream Media cover black on white crime up.
Haven’t white people suffered enough?
Great post. Researched and documented. Sadly, most of the readers on FITS have little use for reality or truth. They are guided by myths fed to them by the politicians who manipulate them to feed greed and power.
It’s why I come over here. I love cracking heads (figuratively of course) on the enemy’s court. And I like to show liberals that they are mired in ignorance and stupidity. Problem is: They are too dense to get it. LMAO…
Good piece, much more insightful / useful than the “why my but looks fat in jeans” article.
“but”??? in jeans…you clothe your conjunctions. Snob…
But, butt, butte, beaute, all I know is:
Deep in the jeans she’s wearing
I’m hooked and I can’t stop staring
Oh baby, I wanna get with you
And take your picture…
Baby got back…
Fragger !
“Good piece, much more insightful / useful than the “why my but looks fat in jeans” article.”
I’ve not seen your butt (period) but never hurts to take a look over your shoulder in a full length mirror and see for yourself.
Of course there are folks that are all ass – and you do not even need to see them to know that. (And no, I am not talking about you, Colonel – we don’t always agree but for the most part I think you are a good guy).
Fuck you.
“A 22-year study by Arizona State University showed that of all the officers terminated by the New York City Police Department, less than 5 percent were terminated for Abuse of Force. More officers were terminated for administrative violations and drug use than for brutality.”
Jesus, can you really be too dim to see that this just as easily can be explained by a general tolerance for brutality and bureaucratic/hierarchical intolerance of petty rules violations?
If you did not have your myths (and lies) you’d have nothing at all…
PS: Did Michael Brown really get charged w/ murder as a juvenile? Why is the media not reporting that? Also: Have you seen the Drug-Gun related photos that broke of your “Gentle-Giant” today…LMAO…
What gets me: you really believe it when the media calls you the: Best and Brightest. But you are the most stupid MoFos in reality…
Have you ever considered saving some time, and saying, “Uh, no.”?
When GlansTangle is swelled up for a big splurt he’s just gotta let go with a big splurt.
It’s obvious the officers killed were armed, and the people they were approaching, in whatever manner, were probably armed, given that the officers died.
The victim in the Ferguson shooting was unarmed and walking down the middle of the street. Don’t know what else transpired, but the very onset of these incidents, the power of the police in the Ferguson was clearly, overwhelmingly in the police’s favor.
There’s that.
Don’t forget the 6’2″ (+) and 300 lbs of mass the deceased bully had in his favor, not only when he jacked up the storekeeper in his own store, but when fighting with the cop. Yes, his parents apparently raised him to be so stupid that he didn’t realize the cop had an “equalizer”.
Ya know, I’m probably capable of beating you to death. When I start, do you feel justified in shooting me to protect yourself?
Now, say I run away, then turn around and come back at you to finish the job because I don’t think you’ll really pull the trigger. Well?
My only hope is the truth will come out. If the officer is correct then I hope you or someone close to you has to face the same situation. Now the Feds supposedly have a drug dealer complaining about abuse from this officer. Maybe all Police officers should resign let us get back to survival of the fittest.
This explains a lot about the current state of law enforcement…
http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
Thats incredible.
You’re right.It speaks volumes.
Yeah, it is. Spread the word.
And it’s because they don’t want to have to pay for better. Oh, and FYI, that town is heavily Democratic (political affiliation of town gov’t). Sooooo…..
That said, most cops in the rest of the country would not have been employable under that standard.
No, it’s because they don’t want people who might think for themselves and question orders.
or even question laws…..
Oh my, what temerity that would be.
Yes, but this was one department. I doubt that anywhere close to most have this stupid policy.
Its not for the cops to question the laws, only enforce them. Laws are passed by the people’s representatives and should be enforced. If its a bad law it should be rectified by hounding the people’s representatives into changing that law not by selective enforcement. Selective enforcement is a second cousin to anarchy and tyranny.
Seems to me that if the alleged suspect was on the side of the road or moved to the side of the when asked a lot of pain and suffering could have been avoided. Sorry that some of the police died in the line of duty but that’s a risk they take when on duty. I’m wondering what is the number of arrest that no one died during the same time frame ?
In 1976 a new TV show made it’s debut on ABC. S.W.A.T. was a show about a new concept in policing to catch bad guys while protecting citizens. Special Weapons And Tactics episodes revealed a specially armed and trained police team was called into action for such scenarios as snipers shooting at citizens, chasing escaped prisoners, and rescuing hostages. These paramilitary police units made their debut as early as 1969 Los Angeles to handle such real life scenarios mentioned above. Major cities got into the act forming their own units. The relative infrequency of SWAT call-outs meant that the specially trained and equipped officers were usually assigned to regular police duties, but were available for SWAT calls at a moments notice.
According to Radley Balko’s, “Rise of the Warrior Cop” in 1984, 26% of towns with populations of 30,000 people had their SWAT teams. By 2005, 80% of these population centers had their own SWAT units. According to Professor Pete Kraska of Eastern Kentucky University’s School of Justice Studies, SWAT units were called out 3000 times around the US in 1980. Today, these call-outs swelled to around 50,000 each year. With violent crimes decreasing, why so many SWAT call-outs?
The ACLU estimates 80% of SWAT raids are conducted to execute search warrants often looking for drugs despite citizen’s lessening support in the so-called “War on Drugs”. These raids often end up as botched with innocent people killed and terrorized in their own homes. These “no-knock” raids christened by Supreme Court rulings embracing only a “a reasonable suspicion” that by knocking first folks would flush drug evidence down the toilet.
Parte Deux:
Don’t call the cops when some random thug rapes your daughter at gunpoint. Wouldn’t want them to have to use a SWAT team to go in and get him after they use all that “paramilitary” organization to figure out who he is (most likely using equipment paid for out of drug grants because the citizens wanted a new water park instead of a funded police department). Wouldn’t want the rapist to get hurt or be offended.
It’s pretty much a waste of time to call cops in most cases of crime as they rarely are on the scene while it’s committed and the investigation rarely ends up with a conviction.
Since you bring up the topic of rape, it’s interesting to know the conviction rate of those caught is only around 11%, and even then only around 6%.
https://rainn.org/news-room/97-of-every-100-rapists-receive-no-punishment
Cops are useful when you need a report for insurance purposes and what not, but the fact is that 99% of their time is spent generating revenue via traffic tickets and most don’t ever use their gun in their career because they never bump into bad guys outside traffic stops.
Since you like stats, read the article. 60% go unreported. How do they arrive at this number? A guess? They also fail to list how many cases have victims who refuse to cooperate. Or how many were unfounded. No real facts in the article at all- just guesswork. It also doesn’t tell how many cases have suspects identified and the prosecutor declines to go forward.
Oh, I read the report, you’re just failing to understand it and the stats.
They delineated between those reported and not…and every point you tried to make destroyed as a result.
Back in the ’70s, most drug dealers carried cheap revolvers. Today? AK’s, SKS, AR’s, as well as high – capacity pistols are the norm. It is NOT the job of cops to ensure a “fair fight” or give criminals an advantage simply to make Thomas feel warm and fuzzy. Don’t want drug laws enforced? Elect people who will repeal them. Don’t want cops with rifles? Don’t call them to incidents were they will need them.
BTW, back in the ’30s-’60s, it wasn’t unusual for police to have Thompson submachine guns.
Garbage collecting is far more dangerous than police work:
http://www.vox.com/2014/8/22/6053627/being-a-police-officer-is-dangerous-these-jobs-are-more-dangerous
Unfortunately, those raw numbers aren’t broken down very well. Accidents versus assaults? How many garbage cans attacked the garbage man last year?
You really can’t compare deaths from accidents to murders.
Absolutely.
Me? I’m black Irish / Italian and 3% Neanderthal
You folks that are critical should do a little real research.
Arm yourself !
This cop makes far too much sense. The people these words are most likely intended for. They ain’t got time for that. They have an agenda to push and a hustle to sell. For those people, racism and prejudice are a business, and for them, business is good.
I’ll put it this way. ” Any thug who makes a move to harm me or my family is done, ANY THUG “.