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47 comments

The Colonel September 1, 2014 at 1:32 pm

What a Doofus.

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Deo Vindice SC September 1, 2014 at 2:14 pm

You said it, Colonel.

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Oops! September 1, 2014 at 8:12 pm

Are you going all “Grand Tango” on us? Capital “D”?

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The Colonel September 1, 2014 at 8:19 pm

No, Paul is a “capital D” doofus. Suggesting that the “willy nilly”, no plan, foreign policy is better than a coherent plan, even a “wrong one” is just stupid.

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Oops! September 1, 2014 at 8:36 pm

Wow, all that to explain a Tango style capitalized letter.

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The Colonel September 1, 2014 at 8:49 pm

The real truth is that my tablet always capitalizes Doofus, I think I saved it that way in the added vocabulary… doesn’t change the fact that Paul is a Doofus or that predictable responses are critical to foreign policy.

TontoBubbaGoldstein September 1, 2014 at 9:33 pm

Wow, all that to explain a Tango style capitalized letter.

Although TBG vehemently disagrees with the Colonel’s “Doofus assessment”; TBG can’t fault him one iota for going the extra mile to avoid even a whiff of *Tangoness*.

RogueElephant September 1, 2014 at 8:51 pm

I would rather have an enemy I can predict than a “friend” I can’t.

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Ask Assad for help? lol September 1, 2014 at 4:15 pm

“If ISIS is as big a threat as they claim, why can’t they simply ask
Assad to help out? Assad has never threatened the United States”

But, the US did threaten Assad so we can’t ask him for help…so we have no friends in that region other than Israel…typical US policy, alienate everyone. It’d have been better to nuke the entire region and start over, certainly less costly…all morals aside of course. (and lets be honest, morals haven’t been an issue for our involvement in that region ever)

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Bible Thumper September 1, 2014 at 4:48 pm

ISIS and Assad were cooperating to eliminate the FSA. Assad would accept our help, but that wouldn’t be a long term solution.
Use a nuke and there would be riots throughout the world and the USA. I never could imagine myself joining a riot, but first use of a nuke might prompt me.

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Nah September 1, 2014 at 5:06 pm

“Use a nuke and there would be riots throughout the world and the USA”

Didn’t happen after Hiroshima & Nagasaki, doubtful it would happen today.

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Bible Thumper September 1, 2014 at 5:26 pm

The two thirds of the world had been engulfed in war and we were the only nation that had it. If we used it now, how soon would it be before Russia used it in Ukraine. Putin has been pointedly mentioned Russia’s nuclear capabilities and new nuclear advances. Also the USA and NATO has accused Russia of violating the medium range nuclear missile treaty. A Chinese government newspaper has suggested solving the problem with Taiwan and the South China sea using nuclear weapons. It is not 1945.
These are potential dangers that our enemies, our allies and our citizens would object to vehemently.

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Nostradumbass September 1, 2014 at 5:45 pm

Wow, you know the future, cool.

Bible Thumper September 1, 2014 at 5:51 pm

Nah claims to know the future. Ron Paul makes a thousand predictions and three or four come true, he’s a prophet.
Don’t you think that before you use a nuclear bomb, someone should calculate the consequences?

Nostradumbass September 1, 2014 at 8:04 pm

“Perhaps our predictions for the outcome of the war in Iraq were off just a little bit.”

That was one of the “three of four” of Ron Paul’s predictions that came true, right?

At least there’s some precedent for what “Nah” said, for your comments…there’s only speculation.

Bible Thumper September 1, 2014 at 9:11 pm

There is precedent for my viewpoint in that nuclear powers have been in many wars, even losing wars, and none have dared to use a nuclear weapon since WWII. There must be a reason that there is more precedent for my position than “Nah’s.

TontoBubbaGoldstein September 1, 2014 at 9:21 pm

TBG doesn’t recall any nuclear powers losing wars.*

*Losing…as in being invaded, occupied, leaders tried for war crimes etc.

Bible Thumper September 1, 2014 at 10:15 pm

No one is talking about ISIS doing that to the USA. Very few wars end that way, particularly tried for war crimes. WWII was an exception. The British lost the American Revolution. Germany lost WWI. Vietnam was a lose for the USA. Afghanistan in the eighties was a lose for the Soviet Union.

Nostradumbass September 1, 2014 at 9:28 pm

“precedent”

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Bible Thumper September 1, 2014 at 10:01 pm

Precedent – an earlier event or action that is regarded as an example or guide to be considered in subsequent similar circumstances.
You understand what I mean. Precedent is beneficial to posterity, but I don’t recommend its use for discovering the impact of using nuclear weapons today.
I can not give examples of riots resulting from the use of nuclear weapons since nuclear proliferation, but there were riots for the nuclear freeze movement. It would be logical to expect a much greater reaction to a nuclear attack.

TontoBubbaGoldstein September 1, 2014 at 9:16 pm

TBG loves your handle.

ITBGRC his high school Latin …it would be a good handle for *our* GrandTango, also.

TontoBubbaGoldstein September 1, 2014 at 8:24 pm

Our defense budget and debt would skyrocket.

Not only has that horse already left the barn, the barn has rotted away into nothingness and large trees now form a grove where it once stood….

Bible Thumper September 1, 2014 at 9:38 pm

True but our total debt as as a percent of GDP was higher during WWII. If the first use of nuclear weapons for anything more than defense from invasion of Homeland became accepted, then we would see huge growth of expensive missile defense systems. “No matter how bad things are, you can always make things worse.” ? Randy Pausch. The tree is hit by lighting and falls on the house which catches on fire and burns down.

euwe max September 1, 2014 at 7:58 pm

We should test it on an American city first – just to make sure.

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Nah September 1, 2014 at 8:11 pm

My vote is DC.

euwe max September 1, 2014 at 11:11 pm

Why not Florida? It’s a terrorist training ground.

Nah September 2, 2014 at 9:44 am

“Why not Florida? It’s a terrorist training ground.”

Because if the goal is to kill terrorists, DC has far more.

euwe max September 2, 2014 at 10:14 am

Have you ever been run over by a wheel chair?

Nah September 2, 2014 at 11:04 am

Have you ever been run over by a middle eastern donkey cart?

euwe max September 2, 2014 at 12:17 pm

According to Fox, it’s gonna be raining men… smelly, stupid, ignorant men… ever been hit by a falling camel?

Nah September 2, 2014 at 12:30 pm

Let’s hope it’s been bathed before they load it into their siege engine and send it over.

euwe max September 2, 2014 at 12:42 pm

How humiliating… the world’s greatest civilization to be destroyed by
Trebuchets!

TontoBubbaGoldstein September 1, 2014 at 9:27 pm

Use a nuke and there would be riots throughout the world and the USA. I never could imagine myself joining a riot, but first use of a nuke might prompt me.

PFFFFFT.
We’ll blame it on ISIS, or Syria, or Iran, or Russia, or Al Qaeda, or somebody we haven’t heard of yet. That will give us the retribution excuse.
Remember, the USA nukes in twos.

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euwe max September 1, 2014 at 7:58 pm

If ISIS is as big a threat as they claim, why can’t they simply ask
Assad to help out?

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Um… maybe because we’re trying to kill him?

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TontoBubbaGoldstein September 1, 2014 at 9:29 pm

…we have no friends in that region other than Israel…

We’ll always have [certain elements within] Saudi Arabia [‘s government].

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Ask Assad for help? lol September 2, 2014 at 9:53 am

Let’s just hope they can keep a lid on their serf’s proclivities towards flying planes into our buildings eh?

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Benjamin Ghazi aka "Ben" September 1, 2014 at 6:18 pm

BENGHAZI!

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euwe max September 1, 2014 at 7:57 pm

…and the whole fox news team started jumping up and down shouting “BENGHAZI!” … and then the cameramen joined in, and the interns, and a vendor putting Doritos in the candy machine…. and we were all jumping up and down…. screaming “BENGHAZI!”

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euwe max September 1, 2014 at 7:56 pm

Republicans hate it when they see someone in thought… they don’t believe in it.

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Sal20111 September 1, 2014 at 11:17 pm

Thought that when Obama said there was “no strategy” as yet for the ISIS mess (Daash is what I hear they are called in Iraq), it was one of his more honest and accurate statements to date rather than a gaffe. There certainly doesn’t seem to be any “strategy” to the US foreign policy in the Middle East unless the objective is to spawn terrorist groups like bacteria, and make itself increasingly unpopular with the civilian population caught in the violence. We’ve got anit-Western militias on the rampage in Libya, Iraq, Syria, who seem to have been supported by the US at some stage. So when Obama said there was “no strategy”, he was dead right.

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Lisa Ka September 2, 2014 at 8:04 am

The Russians have just started to send military aid to the Kurds.

The Kurds have oil.

The Iranians have oil.

The Iraqis have oil.

ISIS only has the oil it is stealing from Syria.

Who’s jelly sandwich will land face up?

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SCBlues September 2, 2014 at 8:36 am

“Who’s jelly sandwich will land face up?”
Who cares if there is no peanut butter . . . .

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Fleece Johnson September 2, 2014 at 9:45 am

Either way I’m excited about jelly sandwich’s.

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Smirks September 2, 2014 at 10:05 am

The solution is simple, put jelly on both sides of the bread.

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Mary Mose September 2, 2014 at 7:47 pm

You know the US forces killed 100,000 Iraqi civilians over the last 10 years, but I guess none of their heads fell off? :-D

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Soft Sigh from Hell September 2, 2014 at 8:26 pm

I’ll bet that actually quite a few of them did.

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I like my head where it is September 3, 2014 at 8:42 am

Yes, yes…but we do it in a “civilized” manner….using 18 year old with Nintendo controllers on flat screens. We don’t post those gloating youtube’s afterwards. We are civilized.

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