“WITH THEIR TANKS AND THEIR BOMBS AND THEIR BOMBS AND THEIR GUNS …”
Yeah we’re quoting The Cranberries … what of it?
As America descends into a militarized police state, “tanks and bombs and guns” are about to become a lot more prevalent on our “Main Streets.”
Unlike the entire “progressive” movement in America, we haven’t rushed to judgment regarding what happened on Saturday on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri – the St. Louis suburb where an unarmed 18-year-old black man named Michael Brown was shot and killed by a law enforcement officer. Two totally conflicting story lines have emerged – one from witnesses to the incident, the other from police.
Eventually, we suspect evidence will emerge to justify the one or the other – or some combination of both.
What’s not up for debate? The overreaction of the U.S. police state …
RAPID REACTION
@fitsnews +1 on the Zombie reference
— Cameron Easley (@Cam_RollCall) August 14, 2014
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No doubt in my mind the Police,Judges,Courts,Lawyers and anyone that cant take your freedom away needs more scrutiny but that does not mean they need to be disarmed or pushed in a corner. American streets within the next 10 years will look like a foreign country simply because of the way the US Justice Dept.,The President and politicians circumvent the rule of law!
I notice that they are not giving out the name of the police officer. Totally understandable.
I also notice that they are not saying what his race is…. jus’ sayin, jus’ saying….. Wouldn’t it be funny if………..
He’s white and his name is Bryan P “Scooby” Willman.
There is already reports disputing that. Either way, do you support vigilante justice for him?
His name is George Zimmerman…he was recently hired by the St. Louis PD on recommendation from a certain Wayne LaPierre.
“What’s not up for debate? The overreaction of the U.S. police state”
That is up for debate. The police are trying to protect homes and businesses.
What’s not up for debate? The overreaction of the protesters acting at night and providing cover for looters and arsonist. Unwilling to wait for local, state and federal investigations.
What say you on the press being essentially arrested and detained and bullied?
You don’t have a problem with a local police force, like Cayce for comparison, turning up with armored vehicles, assault weapons, full riot gear, tear gas and the like?
Where is Cliven Bundy in all of this? Where are the while militias swooping down to defend us from an aggressive and threatening law enforcement presence….oh yeah…it’s because the people are black and they don’t give a shit about black people.
They may be waiting until the looting and random gunfire dies down. A lot of them are old dudes…
I suppose you’re right. Better to steal from the Federal Gov’t to the tune of over $1 million dollars by way of illegal cattle grazing than to knock over a few 7/11s
A Quick Trip is easily worth several million.
Does that include scratch offs?
The equipment that scans the lottery winners cost thousands of dollars.
More efficient, anyway.
I said “That is up for debate.” I did not say I approved. Sure the military appearance of the the equipment is possibly inflammatory, but would you want to face that crowd without that equipment? There has been no serious injuries from the use of this equipment. In fact it has probably prevented injuries.
Bringing in another police force may help if they are not seen as protecting the police officer involved in the shooting.
The Clive Bundy protester who pulled a gun should have been arrested. I’m for law and order; left or right; black or right.
Fits said “we haven’t rushed to judgment regarding what happened on Saturday on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri”. He has rushed to judgment when he said “What’s not up for debate? The overreaction of the U.S. police state … ”
A protester was shot and killed, another was critically injured. They have been using both non-lethal and lethal rounds and full on riot tactics against people merely protesting. They have unlawfully arrested and detained individuals who are well within their first amendment rights to film, document and record proceedings.
I am with Fitsy on this one, the police have overreacted to say the least.
I haven’t found any serious injuries to protesters. One person protecting his property was hospitalized by looters.
Also most of the injuries occurred on Saturday night before the riot gear was used.
The article I read said 10 injuries including three policemen.
At what point is burning down buildings and shooting at helicopters “merely protesting”?????
That cartoon says a lot for the situation these days
Now we know the reason for the obscene price of ammunition now days
it’s NOT the jack-booted federal thugs in black helicopters buying up the ammo causing the price increase it’s your friendly local police department!!!!!!!
I jest but there is a kernal of truth to this matter. It is an established fact that police departments are doing more marksmanship training and along with that comes the requirement for more training ammo.
And honestly the MAIN reason for the increase in the price of ammo is due to right-wingnut HOARDING but increased firearms training by law enforcement across the spectrum has contributed to the price increase but it’s hard to figure why the price of .38 Special went up as well (no cop uses .38 Special anymore)
Recently I saw a crawler on the bottom of my TV (via a cable news network program – maybe Fox) that a state representaive in Virginia is proposing that ONLY law enforcement be authorized to possess body armor.
it is already illegal (in most states) to wear body armor while in the process of committing a crime (which is perfectly understandable). But banning body armor for anyone EXCEPT law enforcement will send the wrong signal and further the percepton that civilian law enforcement is now a para-military organization.
The way things are going these days, wearing kevlar might not be a bad idea!!!!
The police do need the practice, remember the guy in NYC the cops shot nineteen times, they fired 41 rounds and the farthest of the four cops was approximately 30 feet away.
Sometimes it’s hard to take youur finger off that damn trigger………………………
In all honesty, when the adrenlin gets going and you have tunnel vision bad shit happens to people who may not deserve it.
Sadly, the country is getting closer to a hair trigger every day.
But like the author of “Black Hawk Down” wrote:
“If you want to see what nonexistant gun control looks like spend some time in Mogadishu”
That’s why I’ve stayed away from management.
Some of us have our sights on management.
The “little people” deserve better.
The NYC trains to empty the magazine if the have to fire. Also, hitting something – or someone – at 30 ft multiple times under stress, is no easy task with a few inch long barrel.
What is scary is how many agencies have dumbed down their qualification courses to only 15 yards as the maximum distance a target is shot from. Geeze, back in the 60’s and 70’s and even into the 80’s, most qualifications had you shooting rounds out to 50 yards.
“(no cop uses .38 Special anymore)”
Depends. SC Dept Of Corrections remains probably the largest Criminal Justice Agency to use .38 revolvers left in SC. Even now, only their SWAT (or like acronym) team and maybe a few privileged characters in that agency carry anything other than .38 revolvers.
A lot of cops carry lightweight 5-shot .38 Spl revolvers as backup and off-duty still, as do a good number of citizens.
snub nose w/ ankle holster is the shit
I’m talking about the service weapon for line duty cops, not prision guards who keep the weapons locked up in the control center.
Back up snub nose .38 are no factor whatsoever for the reason for ammo going out the roof across the board.
i was just using .38 special as an example of what USED to be standard service revolver for law enforcement till the mid-70’s when most went to .357 magnum before going to the semi-automatic pistols later on.
Actually, copper prices going through the roof from China’s industrializing is a big reason. Copper is a component in both guilding metal for jackets and brass for casings.
Unlike the entire “progressive” movement in America, we haven’t rushed to judgement regarding what happened on Saturday…
Oh, but the commenters sure have, with vitriolic comments rife with describing “those people” as “animals” and generalizing everyone there as violent, TV-stealing welfare leeches.
Starting to wonder if Stormfront visitors are starting to come over here in droves.
Have you watched the videos of the people rioting and looting? How would you describe them?
Underprivileged?
Have you watched the videos of the people rioting and looting? How would you describe them?
I would describe the individuals causing problems as lawbreakers or criminals who are turning what should be a peaceful demonstration into something else entirely. I agree the police should be present and should deal with those persons, although I agree with the concerns Will and others have pointed out.
I think a lot of the comments on the other post devolved into massive stereotyping bordering on hate, though, which is what I was pointing out.
“Have you watched the videos of the people rioting and looting?”
Have you watched the video of Michael Brown’s uncle trying to get to his nephew’s body and being stopped?
And a fun fact to know and tell – Ferguson is 67% African American. There are three African American officers on the fifty-three man police force. You do the math.
His nephew’s body was part of a crime scene. I understand that part. As to % of a profession based on race…. THAT I don’t understand. What you are saying is that, in order to AVOID being racist, we must BE racist by mandating a quota? Better question is this: What percentage of applicants are black, and what objective standards are in place to hire the BEST person for the job, regardless of race? By YOUR lights, Blues, professional sports needs to set quotas, too.
” By YOUR lights, Blues, professional sports needs to set quotas, too.”
I did not say that anyone was racist. I did not say I was in favor of quotas – all I did was stated a fact.
Excellent Point.
Countdown to Fox News’ saturation use of the word “thug” in 3, 2, 1………
German Police Fired 85 Bullets All Year in 2011, 49 of which were warning shots. US Police Use 90 on 1 Person
We’re obviously more thorough…
We have our eye on the ball.
…and, too, there are whole swaths of our culture here that are eleventy times more broken than in Germany. Cops aren’t ambushed and shot at lunch in Germany, nor do they die at the rate of 100+ per year. The US that produces 54,000 assaults on officers annually (and almost 15,000 injuries) is a markedly different scene than Germany. Apple, meet orange, Krazy Kat.
Main thing though….let’s not talk about any sort of gun control whatsoever.
I, for one, would rather talk about CRIMINAL control….
Cops aren’t ambushed and shot at lunch in Germany
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Not as many guns.
True enough, but without going down the gun control rabbit hole my point remains- apples…oranges.
No, they haven’t. That’s a Lefty MYTH. Ask the Turks and Rom. In many respects, Germany and most European countries (esp. France) are MORE racist than the US.
And most of Europe is ethnically homogeneous. That has a LOT to do with things. Increases in immigrants to Great Britain have DRAMATICALLY increased the violent crime rate there.
Germany (is) more racist than the US
link?
The kid had it coming – they were going to loot and protest, they had to shoot them before they did. And even then, they did anyway.
The kid had it coming – they were going to loot and protest, they had to shoot them before they did.
The Bush Doctrine : Domestic Application
Let’s not talk about “persons of interest” who are regularly outed by the police to get the public to help find dirt on the “suspect.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFl1tiwnAuk
If we don’t machinegun teenage TV looters, next thing they will explode weapons of mass destruction at the Port of Charleston.
Some kids just need killin’
American cops are wimps. The Japanese cops used to meet the Zengakuren rioters by the hundreds to settle matters mano y mano, both sides equally armed with clubs and shields and helmets. Ah, when men were men.
Folded arm flag standers.
Funny how so-called “small government” conservatives rush to embrace police militarization.
I hate the militarization of the police.
And I also hate the rash, race-baiting sensationalism and looting and rioting over this incident that — as it is most likely turning out — wasn’t about race at all. With the news that Michael Brown is almost assuredly the guy who strong-armed an old shop owner and stole cigars just minutes before the shooting, it seems plausible (if not likely) that this big aggressive criminal was very much complicit in the initial shooting that happened in the police car. Whether the subsequent shooting was justified is debatable, but it certainly was not an incidence where he was shot simply for being black.
Even criminals can be shot for being black.