RACIALLY CHARGED RIOTS COLLIDE WITH THE NEW AMERICAN POLICE STATE
For a fifth straight night, the St. Louis suburb of Ferguson, Missouri resembled a third world country – with protesters clashing violently with militarized police units. Molotov cocktails and other projectiles were lobbed at riot police, who have been accused of over-responding to the protests and violating the participants’ right to assemble.
That has, in turn, sparked a long-overdue debate over the excessive militarization of local law enforcement – which has been flooded with war equipment (432 mine-resistant armored vehicles, 435 armored trucks and cars, 533 aircraft, 45,000 night vision optical pieces, 94,000 machine guns, 180,000 magazines and an undisclosed number of drones).
The violence stems from the shooting of an unarmed 18-year-old black man – Michael Brown – by a local law enforcement officer. Witnesses claim the shooting was unprovoked, while police say the officer involved was assaulted and sustained injuries during the attack.
Police have yet to release the name of the officer – or elaborate on their version of events. An investigation overseen by the U.S. Department of Justice (USDOJ) is underway – although the story has morphed from the aftermath of the disputed incident to the police response.
According to libertarian-leaning author Michael Snyder, what’s happening in Ferguson is a sad preview of what’s to come in the rest of the country.
“Ferguson, Missouri is under military occupation right now,” Snyder wrote. “And the entire world is watching in horror as militarized police fire tear gas and rubber bullets at unarmed protesters. Yes, the rioting and looting in Ferguson needed to be stopped. If order had not been restored, more stores and businesses would have been destroyed. However, there is no excuse for the brutal tactics now being employed. At one point, police snipers were even using laser scopes to target protesters that were obviously unarmed. Sadly, this is just a preview of what is coming to America in the years ahead.”
Snyder added that “as the economy falls apart and people become even more angry and even more frustrated, there will be a lot more incidents of civil unrest like we have just witnessed in Ferguson. And in response, the federal government and our overly militarized police will seek to crush those uprisings with overwhelming force.”
And you wonder why governments everywhere are trying to take our guns? And limit our ability to defend ourselves?
Additionally two reporters – Wesley Lowery of The Washington Post and Ryan Reilly of The Huffington Post – were detained during their coverage of the riots.
“The worsening situation in Ferguson is deeply troubling, and does not represent who we are as Missourians or as Americans,” Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon said in a statement. “While we all respect the solemn responsibility of our law enforcement officers to protect the public, we must also safeguard the rights of Missourians to peaceably assemble and the rights of the press to report on matters of public concern.”
Amen to that …
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@fitsnews Well-put.
— Gerald Leach (@geogerry) August 14, 2014
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FINALLY.
A conservative warning about our police state aborning. >:(
— Susan Roubaix (@SGFuthey) August 14, 2014
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“While we all respect the solemn responsibility of our law enforcement officers to protect the public, we must also safeguard the rights of Missourians to peaceably assemble…”
No problem with that, however I would not consider rioting, looting, and wholesale vandalism and other acts of damnfoolery to be peaceful assemblage.
You mean Tyrone stealing a flatscreen isn’t a valid form of protest against jackbooted cops shooting kids?
Nope, I don’t believe it is. Regarding the “jackbooted cops”, I will be among the first to call out stuff like was done to citizens in Boston following the Marathon bombing incident, with their door-to-door forced warrantless searches of peoples’ homes and the like, but it appears this sterling, faultless, youth who bit the dust may have been involved in a theft at a nearby store, causing the initial police contact with him. It also appears from various reports, that he assaulted the cop, causing unspecified injury to the officer and bringing about his own demise.
But if Obummer had a son, he would look just like……
“But if Obummer had a son, he would look just like……”
I wondered how long it would take for someone to disparage President Obama in regards to this . . .
Did he or did he not use those words in regard to Trayvon Martin?
Why should the animals in Ferguson respect the law when the animal in the White House doesn’t?
Let me guess, you aren’t racist, you have friends who are black?
Don’t worry, 0bama will weigh in soon and do it for himself.
I don’t think 0bama has the genes to father a son like that man.
Possibly, but the fact remains that the police in the US are now militarized and eager to shoot over the most minor offenses.
Regardless, Tyrone getting a flat screen over it in “protest” is a bit much as well.
I concur that a lot of this militarization with the MRAPS, uniform designs, and use of SWAT for any and every little thing is troubling.
That’s the cause of all the daily riots in Tokyo, right?
That is a good point, CNSYD. There are factors in that equation which probably skew things a bit from the norm. Japan’s culture is one of honor, integrity, and generally doing right by your society as well as your family and yourself. Can you imagine the wholesale rape, looting, vandalism, and murder, that likely would have occurred if the Fukushima disaster had occurred here? I don’t know what the crime rates are in Tokyo compared to more rural areas of Japan are, but I would imagine them to be higher in the big city. Overall, they are probably considerably lower in Japan when compared to like population density areas in the United States.
The fact that they don’t redistribute income so able bodied people can sit on their ass doesn’t hurt the culture either. They take care of the truly needy and frown on non productive freeloading.
Hear, Hear!
+10 for you today. A person tired from a hard days work is less likely to riot than someone with a full stomach and nothing to do.
And, amazingly, people paid a decent wage have no need to riot.
Ignorance is bliss, and YOU, Taz, are VERY happy….
” . . . . they don’t redistribute income . . . .”
LOL Where is this redistribution of income happening?
Good question. The latest group receiving benefits they don’t earn as freaks of society)are homosexuals and lesbians that get married. My income is being redistributed to pay for your perverted lifestyle.
For one thing the population in Japan is pretty homogenous and have less of “you owe me” mentality.
and have less of “you owe me” mentality.
One man’s “you owe me” mentality is another man’s “we owe it to each other” mentality. Probably why Japan has universal health care instead of decrying government interference in health insurance markets as “redistributing wealth to the takers.”
Only in your fantasy world. The citizenry (including criminals) can be far more “militarized” than the cops.
Example: http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_3/124_New_AR_Products.html
Not anti-gun, but THIS kind of gear is what is commonly Available to EVERYONE. There shouldn’t be an issue with cops having access to the means to deal with well-armed suspects. Don’t forget, gangs today are pretty well organized. Lots of prior service with nothing to do coming home to the streets.
So where are all the kids with AR-15’s blasting away at cops in MO?
“Lots of prior service with nothing to do…..”
That is plain bullshit and an insult to those who have served.
Go steal some “blunts”, fag.
Police are becomming too militarized. Yes.
Some are too eager to shoot. Yes.
Was the Ferguson incident an example of someoen too eager to shoot over minor offenses? No.
Broken jaw, trauma to face, may lose an eye. I think that qualifies as “serious injuries”.
I concur fully. When I made my post, I had not read any elaboration on the injuries. I was making the comment just to illustrate that contrary to what we have mostly seen in the media, the shoot may have been justified. Apparently is was.
Waiting for the pics of the dead kid when he was an innocent 9 year old to start showing up in the media.
Not a kid, he was 18 = man, and apparently not a small one either.
6’4″, 220+#. Not small at all.big enough to kill with his bare hands.
“Waiting for the pics of the dead kid when he was an innocent 9 year old to start showing up in the media.”
I was not aware that you had to be a certain age to be innocent.
You didn’t get the memo about “the unborn?”
Hey liberal dumbass.Your inncocent 6’4″ 290 POS hero was stopped for a strong armed robbery they have him on video commiting.
Hey Shit for Brains – No he was not stopped for a strong armed robbery – he was stopped for walking in the street – and he was not even carrying skittles either and got shot!
I just remember the crap the media did with Trayvon, posting pics of him for quite a while when he was this cute little kid next door who looked like he never had an evil thought, much less an evil deed, in his life. They conveniently left out those pics of him much closer to when he died, showing him with is gang tats, grille, and looking very much like the thug he wanted to be and apparently was.
“. . . .much less an evil deed, in his life”
So what evil deed was he doing that got him killed? Buying skittles?
That “tea and Skittles” bullshit played out, long ago.
” . . .with is gang tats, ”
So if you have tats you deserve to be killed???
Of course not.
It has to do with the false image the media was intentionally portraying of him, trying to stir shit up. They show pics of an innocent, cute kid, like that was who got shot, not who he really was on the night of the shooting, a defiant, undisciplined, young man who embraced a criminal culture and look, if not lifestyle.
“Broken jaw, trauma to face, may lose an eye. I think that qualifies as “serious injuries”.”
Not as serious as being dead .. . .
True that, but those kind of injuries can lead to death and permanent disability. Someone attempting to inflict such on another without good reason is taking the risk that they will be removed from the gene pool. Decedent played that hand and he lost. It was his decision.
If one knew the extent of injuries, when the assailant would stop, ahead of time one could make the decision to just lay there and take it. However, when someone is pounding on you there is no way of telling when they will stop. You gotta do what you gotta do.
No tazer? No billy club? No rubber bullets? Just go straight to emptying a full clip into an unarmed person.
Nice.
When an aggressive criminal who outweighs you by about 100 pounds is pounding on your face and reaching for your service weapon, it’s quite reasonable to unload a few rounds in him. The most reasonable interpretation of the evidence suggests the officer was in a fight for his life.
Whether subsequent shots were justified is still debatable, but it’s hard to argue against the first shot(s) being justified.
Exactly! Just a week or so ago, a man was killed in Orangeburg when a thug on his payroll flipped out and punched him in the face (possibly multiple times) killing him. That is why it is so stupid when someone tries to make an issue about a person, be they cop or citizen, who uses deadly force in an attack by someone “only” using their fists. Real life is not TV, where a bare-handed assault only results in bruises and a little soreness that goes away in two minutes.
Those of you who want to make an issue with the word “thug”, have at it. The dictionary definition says something about people who have a predisposition to violence or criminal behavior. I grew up thinking of “thugs” as mostly being white. If you want to make it a racial thing be my guest because both definitions fit in that case.
” Decedent played that hand and he lost. It was his decision.”
Where is all of this info on the injuries coming from when they refuse to release the officer’s name? Why all the secrecy?
“Broken jaw, trauma to face, may lose an eye. I think that qualifies as “serious injuries”.” = Justification of deadly force in aggregate, broken jaw and the possibility of losing an eye qualify on their own.
Thug had a choice. He chose to attack the cop. Bad choice.
Were you there you racist piece of shit?
How do you like them FACTS now?
Thug is generally defined as a “brutal ruffian.” Do you deny that this sweet, innocent “child” was a brutal ruffian?
Were you?
So they should have waited until the officer was killed before shooting the MAN (18 is a man)? No thanks, I know I wouldn’t wait, won’t ask others too either.
I’ll bet that he has beat up on his last cop.
“The rumors of my death are exaggerated.”
That’s odd. In the photos of the cop standing over Brown’s dead body, he looks just fine.
Link?
Not the same officer, from what I understand. The PD just released info on the officer who was attacked.
Is that fact?
That lie has been proven to be false by every media outlet on the planet. The picture is that of a moto cross racer Jim McNeil. Do you live under a rock?
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/fauxphotos/fl/Photo-of-Darren-Wilson-Injuries-Is-a-Hoax.htm
So you’re an expert on the case now are you? You’ve got all the facts it seems. I wasn’t aware. I hadn’t seen your reporting in any of the major news outlets. I suppose this case is open and shut.
Just commenting and sharing thoughts, insight, and observations about this like any other story. Please, tell us about your personal experiences in Ferguson during the last week or so and your observations. I’ll be waiting.
“I would not consider rioting, looting, and wholesale vandalism . . .”
I agree that the hooliganism needs to stop. Still does not excuse the fact that an unarmed teenager about to enter college was shot and killed – witness reports do not match the police reports. I say let all the facts come out.
I believe they are, albeit somewhat slowly.
In West Africa, in numerous clinics treating Ebola sufferers, the doctors and nurses are ignoring the sick as they, according to Michael Snyder, are watching TV of Ferguson, MO. They must be, Snyder said,“And the entire world is watching in horror”.
lol…that is a GREAT point…the countries media is so incredibly out of touch and narcissistic.
“. . . . . according to Michael Snyder . . . ”
Michael Snyder – LOL. Isn’t he that crank who has been predicting the end of the world for years now?
Now your posts all make sense.
And you all jumped in before the facts came out. The officer who shot the 18-year-old suffered a severely broken jaw and massive trauma to his face. If someone was trying to beat me to death in my cruiser, I’d shoot them too.
And as to the “protesters”, how would you suggest they be addressed? Flowers and chocolates?
Thank You, CNSYD!
Wasn’t me but thanks anyway.
“Flowers and chocolates?”
lol…might actually work, who knows.
if they were flinging chocolate in my direction I would stop whatever I was doing, sit down and start eating.
lol, me too. I’m in the Andy Griffith camp, I think 95% of the time things can/should be handled without force.
Call me naive, I understand, it doesn’t change my opinion. Not that I wouldn’t have a gun outside my business, I just think that would be enough 95% of the time and would hope I never have to use it. Many cops sign up to use their gun.
Actually, having known a lot of cops over my lifetime, very, very, few, want to use the gun. Most that I know and have known really hope they never have to use it. A lot have actually taken risks they probably shouldn’t have to avoid having to shoot someone.
I’m trying to read about these injuries. Could you share a link please. I have not really formed an opinion yet as no real facts have been available.
Link.
We had a thing in Vietnam called a “quad fifty”. Four 50 cal machine guns mounted on a two and a half ton truck electrically fired . Fine piece of crowd control.
Is that what all those hundreds of Korean civilians were “controlled” with during their war, in the massacre by US troops admitted to only 50+ years later?
BTW: what do the whiners over Waco and Ruby Ridge have to say about this Ferguson matter I wonder.
WACO and Ruby Ridge; people in their homes and minding their own business attacked by Federal agents intent on invading their homes.
Ferguson: person(s) suspected of recently committed crimes accosted by police and goes violent, causing serious injury to officer, winds up getting shot for his efforts. More people, in public venue, become violent, looting, stealing, vandalizing, and random acts of violence. NOT in their own homes minding their own business.
“And the entire world is watching in horror as militarized police fire tear gas and rubber bullets at unarmed protesters.” What a laughable statement in light of the true tyranny going on in Ukraine, Iraq, and Syria.
They just don’t expect it on the streets of the ‘exceptional’ USA.
I wonder if these past few nights are that much worse than any other night in St. Louis.
It would probably be a peaceful night in East St Louis.
Animals … looters, arsonist, rioters, thieves, drug users, drug dealers … Animals.
This is no different than any other “riot” that has struck the nation. With advancements in technology, there comes advancement in law enforcement weapons to combat the “animals.”
Remember the civil rights marches of the 60s? Remember the ones in Charleston with the National Guard lining the streets where protesters were? Helicopters flying overhead?
Lets get one thing straight;
This hardware is NOT a result of an advancement of law enforcement weapony
The majority of this hardware is pipeline from the DOD (Department of Defense) via the Department of Homeland Security.
I’m just wondering why the microwave system (energy directed system that will sting/slightly burn the shit out of you) developed a few years back has not been utilized in this environment. It would seem like a logical device for just this type of situation (crowd dispersal)
Maybe it is because it might fry pacemakers is the only reason I can think of.
Sonic weapons would seem to displace water hoses too.
The VAST majority of soldiers,Marines, airmen or coalition forces from other nations that I flew around in Gulf I, Bosnia or Gulf II NEVER had as much hardware as this cop is sporting. Some did but not too many.
Prior to being aircrew I was a “grunt” in the 82nd Airborne and we did not have nowhere this shit when we headed to the Middle East during the Yom Kippur War alert in October 1973. All we had prior to getting on the planes on the “Green Ramp” at Pope AFB were our issued weapons,gas mask and a couple of boxes of “C” rations (no MRE’s back then!!!) and we were going to counter Soviet Airiborne forces for crying out loud!!!!!
Yep, the militarization of police officers has truly gotten out of hand but it is kind of hard to turn down these “toys” when Uncle Sugar’s Dept of Homeland Security (via the DOD) is giving the shit away to every police department in the country.
Once you don this type of gear/hardware and insert the magazine into the weapon you naturally want to kick some ass.
They had a story at WaPo with vets talking about just that.
Between this shit and the mess in Iraq and seeing the similarity with the fall of Saigon in 1975 (I had been out 6 months when Saigon fell), I am not having the best of summers.
A lot (not ALL) of these SWAT types are young caucasian males who are not veterans. They are pumped up on testerone and pray for an excuse to kick ass.
I know, I was in a shooting competition with the Lexington SWAT team back in June at Ft. Jackson. With all their gear and hardware a lot of them still couldn’t shoot for shit. They had a 5.56 mm assault weapon I’ve NEVER seen before (FN maybe?). They had a fucking armored vehicle resembling a MRAP painted black with “Bad MoJo” painted on the top.
Maybe some of y’all have seen it.
Maybe the answer is to only allow veterans to be cops (and female at that).
I bet this guy is proud to have his picture on the screen. The next thing that will happen is they will start wearing black ski masks. All people have to do stay the hell away from thugs trying to take advantage of an incident. Chill out you know Obama will find someone to blame. So people don’t be stupid stop acting like a gang and things will be ok.
It’s a Battlestar Galactica quote, but it works well enough here:
“There’s a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the
enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the
military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the
people.”
Damn good point……
Or maybe to “tweak” the quote a bit:
“When the police become militarized, then the enemies of the state become the people”
Well, it is going to be alright now! The NAACP has asked the UN to
send a peacekeeping mission to Somolia, Iraq, Ukraine, Syria, Libya, Gaza? No,no,no,no, and no, instead we need UN paratroopers in the suburbs of St. Louis.
Just remember what happened when the citizens of Columbia wouldn’t listen to the lawful orders of the Union Army – whoops!!!!
The Al Jazeera reporter walked right into the tear gas. It was a small cloud of about 12 foot diameter.
Based on the non-Al-Jazeera video I saw, they had cameras and lights set up on the sidewalk, not in their hands, and the tear gas landed right in front of all 3-5 of them. One was closer to where it landed than the others and it looks like the idiot might have thought he could take a couple of steps, walk up and kick the canister away. It rapidly became clear to him he couldn’t and they all turned tail and ran. They left their equipment, which the cops later walked up to and turned over and put on the ground.
“while police say the officer involved was assaulted and sustained injuries during the attack”
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“The IDF is investigating.”
proportional force
Now we know where all those federal grants (450,000,000 since 2000) are going. In return, our police departments will kiss the ass of the US DOJ/DHS and do to their citizens what they are told to do…fuck them over.
How else do you stop it?With force.Its pretty simple.
Nothing but racist assholes on this page. This is S.C. folks…and you wonder why we’re last at everything. What a shit hole!!!
From one racist asshole to another, glad you could join us!
just echoing a bit here…
this teen is definitely a big guy and that might be an understatement. His size makes it difficult for me to envision a seated police officer pulling him into his car window, as per the account of Dorin Johnson. There’s a lot of info missing, but i’m guessing that both Brown and the officer are culpable, that Brown assaulted the officer and the officer’s use of lethal force was excessive. the reactionary looting and violence is a no brainer…dumb!
Michael Brown was at fault. Cops do not have time to psychoanalyze defendants before taking action to protect themselves and others in the community. The people of Ferguson are jackasses. They should be working and going to school but I guess it is more fun to fart around and loot.
My momma did not raise me to be that way.