National Politics - 2016

Hillary Clinton The Neocon, Anti-Obama

DEMOCRATIC FRONTRUNNER SEEKS “HAPPY MEDIUM” BETWEEN BUSH AND OBAMA With U.S. president Barack Obama’s approval rating at record lows, presumed 2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton is doing her best to put some distance between herself and an increasingly unpopular administration. The only problem? She’s running from the arms of Obama –…

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DEMOCRATIC FRONTRUNNER SEEKS “HAPPY MEDIUM” BETWEEN BUSH AND OBAMA

With U.S. president Barack Obama’s approval rating at record lows, presumed 2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton is doing her best to put some distance between herself and an increasingly unpopular administration.

The only problem? She’s running from the arms of Obama – whose foreign policy she (mis)managed from 2009-2013 – and into the arms of the warmongering neoconservatives like U.S. Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham.

In an interview with Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic , Clinton lays out her argument for a more aggressive U.S. presence overseas.

Specifically, she highlighted her role within the Obama administration as an advocate greater American involvement in the Syrian civil war.

“The failure to help build up a credible fighting force of the people who were the originators of the protests against Assad—there were Islamists, there were secularists, there was everything in the middle—the failure to do that left a big vacuum, which the jihadists have now filled,” Clinton told Goldberg.

Really?  Last time we checked America was heavily engaged in the effort to defeat Assad – supporting the very Islamists she now seeks to cast in the role of bogeyman (see HERE and HERE).

The former First Lady/ U.S. Senator also blasted Obama’s self-proclaimed  “Don’t Do Stupid Sh*t” foreign policy mantra.

“Great nations need organizing principles, and ‘Don’t do stupid stuff’ is not an organizing principle,” Clinton said.

Ouch …

Clinton said there was a “happy medium” between Obama’s foreign policy and the ultra-interventionist approach adopted by former president George W. Bush.

“You know, when you’re down on yourself, and when you are hunkering down and pulling back, you’re not going to make any better decisions than when you were aggressively, belligerently putting yourself forward,” she said.

Clinton also inched ever closer toward the “if we don’t go there, they’ll come here” logic employed by McCain and Graham.

“One of the reasons why I worry about what’s happening in the Middle East right now is because of the breakout capacity of jihadist groups that can affect Europe, can affect the United States,” she said. “Jihadist groups are governing territory.  They will never stay there, though.  They are driven to expand.  Their raison d’etre  is to be against the West, against the Crusaders, against the fill-in-the-blank—and we all fit into one of these categories.  How do we try to contain that?  I’m thinking a lot about containment, deterrence, and defeat.”

Sheesh …

Look, if there is indisputable evidence of a credible threat to the American homeland we absolutely support the use of overwhelming force to eliminate that threat.  We also support armed neutrality to protect our vital national interests – which consists of a well-trained, well-equipped military force (one in which projects are driven by need and effectiveness, not pork barrel politics and special interest pay-offs).

But that’s not what McCain, Graham and now Clinton are proposing.  They want to go into these countries and “nation build,” using any and every new toy their military-industrial complex masters want to build.  Oh, and if you oppose them – they accuse you of being anti-American.

We get that Clinton wants to distance herself from Obama … but running into the arms of the “neocons” is not the way to do it.

 

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Smirks August 12, 2014 at 12:13 pm

Obama’s not a neocon?

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southmauldin August 12, 2014 at 12:44 pm

I agree. Not unlike the bottom half of the ACC. Obama at first had to deal with Bush’s shitty Iraq folly, so I gave him a pass. Now, he’s playing right into the hands of the chickenhawks who can’t wait to fail in their attempts to nation-build.

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euwe max August 12, 2014 at 12:44 pm

It’s starting to look that way, isn’t it?

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Bible Thumper August 12, 2014 at 1:03 pm

No matter who is running our foreign policy, we are headed down a “Rocky Road”.

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Tisk Tisk August 12, 2014 at 3:16 pm

Don’t hate on the Peace Prize winning Drone Strike king, he’s just hasn’t had enough time in office to do “his thing”, though the golf trips aren’t helping.

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MashPotato August 12, 2014 at 7:08 pm

Bill Kristol proudly declared Obama to be a “born again neocon”. That’s pretty clear cut to me.

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Gotta Turn This Country Around August 12, 2014 at 12:22 pm

Clinton is insane, just like Graham and McCain.
More voters are catching on to all of them. And it can never be refuted, that FITSNEWS is playing a role in the same.

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nitrat August 12, 2014 at 12:45 pm

Hillary has connections to the same religio-business-political-military cabal, The Fellowship/The Family/C Street, that has been around since the 1930s and messing in American foreign policy since post WWII…bringing us many of our worst foreign policy/CIA debacles. Some of its members have included Mark Sanford (P&C reports he’s off to China, AGAIN), Sam Brownback, David Petraeus has connections, Billy Graham, and on and on…

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/09/hillarys-prayer-hillary-clintons-religion-and-politics

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Dazed and confused August 12, 2014 at 12:49 pm

“…into the arms of the warmongering neoconservatives like U.S. Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham.”

Sheesh. I thought Fits liked warmongering. The rest of the GOP likes warmongering…

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Bible Thumper August 12, 2014 at 1:06 pm

Fits only likes warmongering when ISIL or Putin are doing it.

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? I'm with stupid August 12, 2014 at 4:15 pm

lulz…not true but funny anyway.

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? I'm with stupid August 12, 2014 at 4:15 pm

lulz…not true but funny anyway.

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easterndumbfuckistan August 12, 2014 at 1:24 pm

If we are going to fight WWIII let’s do it and get it over. Stop it with the long, drawn out conflicts that never accomplish stated goals. If we are going to fight Iran, Russia, North Korea, let’s get on with it. Hit fast, hard, and with will to win.

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don't wake up August 12, 2014 at 2:29 pm

You must be under the impression that those nations are actual threats, not boogie men conjured up to keep you scared. How cute!

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easterndumbfuckistan August 12, 2014 at 2:33 pm

Nope, quite the opposite actually. I know they aren’t threats but if the goal is to fight a war, let’s fight it, kill all the brown people in sand, etc and get it over with. All wars are bankers wars and if fighting WWIII will fix the economy, can be used to invalidate the foreign owned portions of the national debt and other things and that’s what “they” want then let’s do it and get it over with.

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don't wake up August 12, 2014 at 3:27 pm

That ‘a boy!

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easterndumbfuckistan August 12, 2014 at 3:39 pm

Personally I think it’s all a sham, and would prefer to avoid it all together, I just don’t know if the Atlantisists/NWOs/Globalists whatever they are called this week are going to let that happen. Fight it all in one big push is better than perpetual war and fear-mongering.

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Nölff August 12, 2014 at 1:41 pm

Hillary, Obama, McCain and Graham all have cooties.

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ThreePalms August 12, 2014 at 1:50 pm

Iraq. What a colossal mess. The “You break it; you own it” remark seems hauntingly prescient.

And before you reply with the flippant, “it’s all Bushes fault? right.” Please remember that the denial or willful ignorance of the impact of Bush, et. al., on our economy, the national debt, and taxes will only undermine your understanding of our current situation.

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Buz Martin August 12, 2014 at 2:23 pm

“She’s Satan.”
— Don Imus

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Bible Thumper August 12, 2014 at 3:01 pm

At least Satan understands ISIL’s true intentions.

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The Colonel August 12, 2014 at 3:09 pm

There’s a deep theological debate right there…

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shifty henry August 12, 2014 at 10:00 pm

An interesting book (which has many interesting points – some of which I agree with) is THE WHITE FLAG PRINCIPLE: HOW TO LOSE A WAR AND WHY (1972).

Here is a link with some highlights—

http://deuceofclubs.com/books/158_white_flag.htm

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shifty henry August 12, 2014 at 9:56 pm

She also has fat ankles….

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idcydm August 12, 2014 at 8:26 pm

Is this another reset button, the last one didn’t work either.

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Krazy Kat August 13, 2014 at 10:57 am

Haven’t we always been at war with Eastasia?

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Mary August 13, 2014 at 3:01 pm

Stop worrying. it will all be fine. President Clinton will do an excellent job. Can she bring world peace, no. But she will do far better than the whoever the GOP decides to run would have done..

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