OBAMA ONCE AGAIN FIGHTING THE “DUMB WAR”
American F-18 fighter planes dropped 500-pound laser-guided bombs on suspected artillery sites in Northern Iraq on Friday, escalating a conflict that began late Thursday with “coalition” airstrikes.
The artillery sites – reportedly operated by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) – were targeted one day after U.S. president Barack Obama authorized the use of military force in Iraq.
Obama – who did not receive congressional approval for the airstrikes – has previously referred to America’s eight-year engagement in Iraq as a “dumb war” and the “wrong war.” In fact he campaigned for president in 2008 on removing American forces from Iraq, a goal which was accomplished in December 2011.
Since then, Iraq has descended into chaos – which Obama believes he must correct with military action.
“Today, America is coming to help,” he said in authorizing the airstrikes.
Huh?
What about the millions of Americans who need help as a result of his evisceration of the middle class? Oh right … they’re the ones Obama will stick with the bill for these airstrikes.
Look, we fully understand that terrible things are going on in Iraq between Sunni and Shiite Muslims (thanks to Western-drawn borders). We’ve all heard the horror stories about tens of thousands of refugees trapped on Mount Sinjar with no food or water. And about the ISIS soldiers lurking at the base of the mountain waiting to kill them.
We get it: It’s terrible. But it’s also not our problem .
More to the point: What evidence is there to suggest our intervention is going to do anything to help?
These people are going to kill each other, pure and simple. Same thing in the Israeli-Gaza fight. There’s nothing we can do to stop it. In fact the more we meddle in their affairs, the more they want to kill us , too.
The U.S. government utterly and completely fabricated the basis for its 2003 invasion of Iraq – a conflict that cost thousands of American lives and trillions of our tax dollars. Now faced with the abject failure of this intervention – notably the emergence of an al-Qaeda-led rebellion against the U.S.-backed “democratic” government in Baghdad – our politicians want to tell us “something must be done” in the country.
Again.
Sheesh …
Two months ago, Obama sent military advisors to Iraq. Now U.S. planes are bombing ISIS targets – ostensibly to avoid a “humanitarian catastrophe.”
And of course Obama is vowing that “no combat troops” will be sent to Iraq – a promise we’ve all heard before.
“I will not allow the United States to be dragged into fighting another war in Iraq, so even as we support Iraqis as they take the fight to these terrorists American combat troops will not be returning to fight in Iraq,” Obama vowed.
If that’s the case, why get involved at all? Especially seeing how American tax money being used to bomb ISIS in one country and support it in another?
Perhaps U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham could answer that question …
Here’s the bottom line: No matter how bad things are in Iraq, the situation on the ground there is proof positive that American intervention does not help .
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Obama may be doing it…but this is the result of RonPaul ‘Bury-Your-Head’ foreign policy. Liberals and Liberal-tarians are united in non-intervention, until it becomes too barbaric to ignore…They the Liberal-Tarians run and hide, instead of answer.
The “ignore-evil as it festers” crowd will be A-OK w/ anything their soul-mate, Obama does…while they wanted Bush-Cheney executed as War Criminals for doing what Congress told them to do…
PS: We have a good read on it, on our site.
Will check it out.Paul is dangerous.
This just in…Muslim Obama bombed a Toyota pickup truck with a gun on the back.
Obama is just doing this because the slaughter of 40,000 Christians would have confirmed to even his followers his disdain for Christianity.
If it wasn’t for the mid-term elections he wouldn’t be helping the Christians in Iraq and would have stood beside Hamas.
I’d like to believe it is that…but its other Muslims he’s worrying about….
So Emily got her peepee slapped and now has to just suggest we go to her site rather than post a direct link. Well since nobody knows where your site is off-hand, you’re kinda shit outta luck there aren’t you sweetheart.
Ever stop to think I don’t need the boost anymore…Dumb@$$…LMAO…
Finally, hits in the triple digits!
Better than you IQ. Isn’t it still in single digits?
Ever stop to think I don’t need the boost anymore…[?]
No.
Oh, that’s right, I forgot, you’re an @$$-Kisser for the liberals…you stupid Mother-F*#kers would rather die than THINK…My bad…
Ohomo lied, Christian children died. All Ohomo is good at is taking it from the First He/She…up the popper.
I have mixed feelings on this one. On one hand ISIS could be a threat on the other hand Iran is a threat. I wonder if we wouldn’t be better just letting ISIS fill the power vacuum rather pushing them out and letting Iran get a foothold in Iraq and Syria. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, right?
something to think about for sure……….
Wow after recreating my account twice, I’m out of Disqus Jail. I can post again!!!!!!!
Welcome back, again. I experienced a problem for a week where my comment would show as posted — and then vanish! A few of them then reappeared several days later. At first I thought I was being “moderated” but then, again..?
Same thing here. After going deep in my Disqus profile I found all the comments marked as spam. I gave up and created a new profile, same thing happened. I finally created a new email address and used it to register. That seemed to fix the problem.
I fixed my problems by always … always… always.. did I say always? clicking on the little red circle… not just the notification balloon… and keeping it up to date – grayed out.
I always do that because I’m OCD about notification icons, My email is inbox, social media accounts, work email, etc. all have to be inbox zero or I flip the fuck out.
Your first mistake was using Disqus.
Heard a very interesting discussion on this situation this morning. ISIS is a threat to everybody!
The questions though is ISIS more or less of a threat than Iran. In the long run Iran is a greater threat and if ISIS really believes they are the new caliphate they are going to have to fight Iran at some point which will leave both of them weakened. As long as they make no direct threat to US interests let them conduct their affairs as they see fit. If they become a threat to Israel or other US interests wipe them off the map.
From what I heard, ISIS is even more of a threat than Al Qaeda ever was, especially since it has more of an organized military operation, and if it gains traction and followers, it could definitely be a threat to us and other countries. They were even too extreme for Al Qaeda and were kicked out. It has about 10,000 men and “has all the trappings of a state, with courts, schools and services.” Sounds very organized and scary.
“10,000 men”? Shit. Over a 1,000,000 WOMEN a year murder their own child via abortion in this country. ISIS don’t wanna fuck with the abortion crowd in this country.The abortion gang in this country are worse than ISIS if you have ever watched a video of ‘partial birth’ abortion.
…the trappings of a state, with courts, schools and services.
Scary stuff, right there!
OTH, We also have courts schools and services….. and the capability to bomb, invade, and occupy countries anywhere in the world.
ISIS, of course, doesn’t have this capability.
Not even close.
And won’t.
Ever.
No matter what we do or don’t do……
Tonto the Democrat Party has destroyed the “courts , schools and services” in this country.
They have “bombed, invaded and occupied” every community in this country with the same goal as ISIS…destroy America , from within.
Give Karolyn a break. She is on too something here, in my opinion.
…the same goal as ISIS…destroy America , from within.
ISIS’s goal is to establish a Sunni Caliphate in the Levant.
They are not…and never will be, the threat to America that the Democratic Party represents. Or today’s GOP, for that matter.
They can grow bushy eyebrows, sweat a lot and wear funky clothes!
We shouldn’t allow that… at all!
The problem is that we have elected too many dumb@$$#$….who have mixed feelings on what it is to be American…leaders cannot afford to stand around w their head up their @$$#$…but they do….
I’m guessing that you agree we should side with Iran then and fight ISIS who would be their most potent enemy in the Middle East save for Israel but we know DC isn’t going to take the leash off that dog.
Where’d you get that Dumb@$$?…I’m just saying Obama’s irresponsibility and neglect means he wasted all of the lives sacrificed to do the job, Congress (Hillary and Kerry) obligated us to do.
cough, hack.
Cough,,,,like in the intro to Sweet-leaf by Black Sabbath.
Cough.
Lindsey Graham must be so excited that bombs are being dropped, that he has an erection and is masturbating as he watches CNN.
ISIS has threatened to attack the homeland. Well …. everybody knows it’s pretty easy now to do that, right? Just look at how wide open the border with Mexico is. Just look at how easy it is to walk right on in.
When ISIS commits terrorist acts on US soil at most any hour now, who you gonna call? Ghost Busters? Who you gonna call when 1000s of Americans are laying dead from ISIS militants shooting up a town? Poisoning drinking water, etc?
Obama has set us all up to be killed. And Graham helped! He lies and flips flops so much, anyone who has a keen mind and follows what he says and does can easily see, that he is wacked out in head. A very sick man, indeed.
And yes, the invasion of Iraq was in fact fabricated because of the Billions that the war machine could make. And that sack of shit Graham HELPED!
Thank you for the info T-Rav. Now go do another line.
When IS hits the US proper it’ll be with US citizens and US visa holders.
This is to help the tribe that helped the US during its occupation of Iraq. They should not have to be wiped out when we can help them. Also, Isis is a group that needs to be destroyed, as they are one of the worst terrorist groups existing today. They are the first truly military Mideast terrorist group.
“they are one of the worst terrorist groups existing today”????
Worse than the one occupying the ‘people’s’ House and terrorizing Americans?
Really? smh
How does any of this “fight Terrorism” or ,in any way, deter a terror attack here in the United States?
Because ISIS is a very large organized group and is recruiting men from many countries, including the US.
Ok.
How does bombing them in Iraq stop that.
Because once they have taken over Iraq and half of Syria, establish an Islamic caliphate, and capitalize on the world’s fifth largest oil reserve to fund their activities, they’ll be headed the great infidel’s (that’s us) way.
We should try to stunt them now before they can consolidate their power. Not to mention we should at least try to support our “ally” Iraq.
Didn’t Glenn Beck claim there was some conspiracy for an Islamic caliphate? So are Obama and Beck exchanging tweets now? Or swapping addiction stories?
You have to bomb them… that’s how it works.. That’s how we won in Viet Nam.. and in Iraq the first two times.
If you don’t bomb them, they get away with it, and are “emboldened.”
It’s like beating your children – you just have to!
Obama is trying to salvage something from the steaming pile of manure left in the Middle East by G. W. Bush. The Middle East rested in a precarious state of political and social equilibrium until Bush’s needless invasion upset the balance. The status quo ante bellum may not have been to our liking, but it was roughly stable. The only winners in the region have been Iran, ISIS and U.S. defense contractors. Bush wanted to bring democratic values, and he did so, with the elections of Morsi in Egypt and Hamas candidates in Gaza. The Iraq blunder is the greatest national security disaster since we stumbled into Viet Nam. The unfolding of events has made the days of Saddam Hussein look good.
So we are now bombing the same people Obama wanted to help just a few short months ago in Syria, right? and this is Bush’s fault?
Read what I wrote. The destabilization of the ME allowing for the rise of ISIS and Iran belongs at Bush’s feet. Obama now has to deal with it because a triumphant ISIS undermines our policies throughout the region. It was stable before Bush.
We do that a lot. Remember when Saddam was the Republicans’ buddy?
Obama is trying to salvage something from the steaming pile of manure left in the Middle East by G. W. Bush.
You aren’t going to salvage anything there without perpetual occupation.
It may be decades before we are quit of Iraq.
It may be decades before we are quit of Iraq.
We can’t even save the South!
Speaking of a “steaming pile of manure”.
Look for Kerry to surrender to ISIS next week just like he tried to get Israel to surrender to Hamas.
Hey Hey dont you go “swiftboating” John Kerry, he is better than Hillary. She would do nothing, blame it on a video and bump her head so she wouldnt have to talk about it, cause really “What difference does it make?”
LMAO!!!!
Nobody’s trying to get Israel to surrender to Hamas.
Not anymore. BeBe told muslim Obama to fuck off.
Only in some Limbaugh/Fox News alternate reality.
IT’S ALL BUSH’S FAULT. IT’S ALL BUSH’S FAULT. WHEEEEEEEE. Bush left a stable democracy in Iraq. Obummer pulled our peace keepers out and returned Iraq to “his people”, now we see the results.
If you think that even Bush thought Maliki was a good idea to ‘lead’ Iraq, you need to do some more research. He is and was a tool of Iran.
And, I’m sorry you would have preferred that American troops stay in Iraq after 2011 (the deal Bush signed in 2008) with NO immunity.
Unfortunately, factual information is not a recognized treatment for Obama Derangement Syndrome.
“Bush left a stable democracy in Iraq!” In which alternate universe? Did you see this on Fox News? U.S. forces were required to keep the lid on. As soon as we left, it started down the toilet because the decades old balance of power within Iraq and within the region for senselessly destroyed.
“I will not allow the United States to be dragged into fighting another war in Iraq, so even as we support Iraqis as they take the fight to these terrorists American combat
troops will not be returning to fight in Iraq,” Obama vowed.
“We are not about to send American boys 9 or 10 thousand miles away from home to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves.” Lyndon B. Johnson
Sound familiar?
Mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, where we have the ability to prevent genocide we should do so. On the other hand, Muslims killing Muslims might tend to pre-occupy them and prevent them from killing us. And you know those Air Force guys love flying planes and bombing.
ISIS is more all-encompassing and worse than Al Qaeda ever was.
Muslim Obama created this group.
You are such a fucking idiot.
You are too generous
No reason to worry. ISIS is just threatening to hang the red flag of ALLAH in the White House.
They did that in 2008.
Relax. Go out and have a pizza tonight.
So how long till they bring down some more skyscrapers here?
Time for another peace prize!
I like an idea I heard on TV. The prime job of the USA in this should be encouraging an Arab League version of NATO to get up and running.
We have trained the air forces of Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia and it’s time they showed their stuff against a bunch of Sunni extremists that everybody hates.
Then, let them negotiate the redrawing of the map of Iraq along ethnic lines, which seems to be the only way to solve those problems.
f the US is really serious, send in the c-130,s with all those mini-guns poking out of it!
Puff the Magic Dragon 2.0 . They were a welcome sight in Vietnam. I’ll bet those Christians on that mountain would like to see one about now.
As deplorable as it might be, what is going on in Iraq is not a case of terrorism aimed at the US. It’s religious warfare between Muslim sects. ISIS is Sunni and the Iraqi government is Shia. They have been at each other’s throats for centuries…long before the British created Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc. Look at Ireland. The Brits divided the island and the Catholics and Protestants fought forever. The current situation is another example of what can happen when governments cross politics with religion. Unless, we are willing to redraw country borders in the Middle East to accommodate religious and ethnic groups, the US should not get involved. I do not believe there is any other political or diplomatic solution here… and military force will only help in the short run.
At the very least (and probably no more) we should support our allies the Kurds and not backstab them as one of the Bushes did the Marsh Arabs.
The Kurds… Middle Eastern Mafia.. they have no qualms at all selling rockets to Iranians, or buying them from Iranians, and selling to Turks, or Syrians.
Everybody’s dumb except FITS and Ravenel. They have the arrest record to prove it…
…and you have the comments section…
What dumb@$$?
Thanks for removing all doubt…
Let ISIS take it over, then bomb the whole place into the stone age, and take the oil when there isn’t anyone left to claim it.
It’s been the Republican Party and its cut taxes on the rich as the solution to everything policy, aka trickle down, that has resulted in the ‘evisceration’ of the middle class since 1981 and you know who.
And, my question is why weren’t average Americans insulted by the concept that all they deserved in life was what trickled down some rich man’s leg?