“EYE FOR AN EYE” IN GAZA?
More than fifty children have been killed in the latest round of violence between Israel and Hamas … including four children who were playing soccer on a beach in Gaza when they appear to have been deliberately targeted by Israeli forces.
Israel, of course, relies extensively on American military aid … even though they said fifteen years ago they no longer needed our help.
In Israel’s defense, two Hamas members are suspected of orchestrating the abduction and murder of three Israeli teenagers last month – which is what prompted the Israeli attacks (a.k.a. “Operation Protective Edge”). Through its first nine days, this operation has killed more than 200 Palestinians – 77 percent of whom were civilians.
That makes this the most deadly Israeli offensive in more than five years …
Israel continues to insist it does not target civilians, but its government spokesman Mark Regev appears less than convincing in this recent interview with Channel 4’s John Snow …
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“How does killing children on a beach contribute to your purpose of protecting Israeli civilians?” Snow asks Regev.
Later, after rattling off some of Israel’s sophisticated American-subsidized weapons systems, Snow tells Regev “if you couldn’t tell these were four young Palestinian children playing football on a Gaza beach, you need better equipment.”
Wow …
“Not the kind of interview one is likely to see on US TV,” the website Zero Hedge opines.
Exactly …
Israel says “jump” and the American media respond “how high?” While our politicians reply “how much?”
Don’t get us wrong: Israel has every right to launch preemptive or retaliatory strikes against any nation it wishes. And in so doing, it has every right to target civilians – even children – if it wants to.
Just don’t expect American taxpayers to foot the bill … or American soldiers to ride to the rescue.
Prideful Israeli leaders have repeatedly stated they do not need American help, that they can “defend themselves.” It is well past time we start taking them at their word.
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I will have to call BULL SHIT on this one. Hamas puts their rocket launchers in schools, and private homes to make it look like Israel is doing what this article says. The Israelis have actually pulled up their fighters from attacking to prevent harming civilians. They are better people than I am. Kill them all and let Allah sort them out is my way.
Totally agree. While the death of children is an unfortunate outcome of warfare in urban areas, this fight was started by Hamas who routinely launches missiles from occupied housing areas, stores weapons in mosques and school and even uses children as soldiers and suicide bombers. If they want the “killing of children to end, the solution is simple – stop launching rockets into Israel.
Israel’s response has been very measured – Iron Dome is strictly defensive and was built at great expense (by the US and Israel) solely to defend Israel from Hamas’ (and the various other Israel haters in the region’s) rockets. They have targeted missile launch sites only when they can confirm the targets.
Hamas may well over play their hand and the death toll will be substantially greater and Israel will still be blamed.
“Kill them all and let Allah sort them out is my way.”
Others share your view. The several innocents in the pancaked 100 stories each of the WTC 1 & 2 probably got to Heaven after all.
Oh really this is proof that there targeting civilians. What an evil race
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry…
This is just as dumb here, no matter how many times you post it…
(See prior rebuttal)
Zero Hedge should stick to financial gloom and doom; they may know even less about foreign policy and the Israel / Palestinian problem than Ravenel and FITS. The article was right about one thing- we surely won’t see such a silly, pro-Palestinian interview on an American media outlet. Even MSNBC or NPR would blush a little over the clown conducting that interview. Anyone who’s worked over there knows precisely how Hamas works- they intentionally hide behind kids and under women’s skirts. They lob non-precision rockets into neighborhoods (even while Israel observed the ceasefire, by the way), but Snow accuses Israel of targeting children with a straight face. The Israel thing really brings out the stupid in people.
Oh really this is proof that there targeting civilians. What an evil race
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2711977/
Wow; so much fail in such a short post.
I would start with the fact that you opened with “Oh, really?” I used to do that too, until about the 5th grade or so.
Did you actually read the article? The content pretty much kills your “proof.” The sniper says he found the random photo on the web, and the IDF immediately condemned it in very certain terms. Forget that it was on HuffPo; it still didn’t contain anything indicating that Israel was intentionally killing kids.
Finally, there’s your “What an evil race” comment. Anti-Semite, much, do you?! You appear to have some issues, amiga. As I said above, the Israeli / Palestinian issue really brings out the stupid in people, and you, ma’am, are State’s Exhibit A.”
The way to eliminate a group of people is to take out women and children, the US government did it to Indians years ago. If you take out their ability to reproduce or grow into the next generation, they will eventually disappear.
Hold on there, pardner, — don’t be hasty! You don’t want to get Cherokee blood boiling. Some of my uncounted cousins (to the nth degree) might rise up (from their Scrabble and Domino boards) — but ya’ better wait until AFTER football season!
It even has a name, it’s called “culling: reduce the population of by selective slaughter”.
Would culling work on the Grand Rube-esser?
She’d just come back as someone else. On her blog she comes back as a man to make it appear someone is actually reading her articles.
M-o-o-n.. that spells culling!
Anyone care to offer up a Nation that would be more tolerant of rocket attacks? If someone in Fairfield County Virginia was firing rockets at the White House from a crowded pre-school does anyone honestly think we would care about our Army being stronger and more advanced before destroying a 1/4 mile radius where a school once was?
Fairfax County.
When the IRA fired a mortar a Thatcher, did she level a suburb of London? When the OAS tried to assassinate de Gaulle (was it once really with a bazooka?) did he level part of Paris? Nope. Civilized people can respond less like Taras Bulba.
Poor analogies, those.
If the Israelis had done in 1948 what God told them to do when they entered the promised land : kill every living thing, destroy their buildings and start from the ground up. We wouldn’t be having this conversation.
I thought one of the 10 commandments was: Thou shall not kill? and obey the commandments!
The Commandment in question actually translates “Thou shalt not commit murder” – there is a difference.
kill every living thing, destroy their buildings and start from the ground up.
Walk into an area that you don’t live in, kill all the inhabitants, destroy their shit, and build on top of it? That sounds like murder to me.
Then explain the flood and Noah.
“Well, let’s see. First the earth cooled. And then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died and they turned into oil. And then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes. And Prince Charles started wearing all of Lady Di’s clothes. I couldn’t believe it”
Ever hear about the Native American Indians ?
You mean the immigrants who got here via the Bering Strait land bridge?
That is probably the worst joke I’ve ever read.
Explain the difference!
To busy for a lecture on Just War Theory right now, tune in later today.
Okay, here’s the reader’s digest version:
Soldiers acting within the orders of lawful command authority do not commit murder – they do however kill other human beings. The basic concept is that murder is an unjustified taking of another human life while killing a human may involve accidents, intentional justified acts (warfare, capital punishment, abortion if you roll that way or euthanasia) or “acts of God”.
Who decides whether the soldier is/was operating under lawful command – usually the winners but occasionally, international
courts and public opinion
I thought one of the 10 commandments was: Thou shall not kill? and obey the commandments!
Fuck religion.
Not without a King James condom..
In the movie “Munich” (which depicts Israel hunting down and killing the ones responsible for the murder of the Israeli athletes) several times it is mentioned why Israel was doing this. It was so people would learn “don’t fuck with the Jews”. Apparently the Palestinians and others have a hard time understanding that.
If you do in this country, they’ll mess up your taxes on purpose and you’ll bet in for an IRS audit. Or they’ll make one sleeve longer than the other.
I’m just checking, bro…are you using a movie / pop culture reference to buttress the case that Will, Zero Hedge, and the BBC nutcake Snow are right about Israel intentionally killing little kids?! Wow…
No. The movie is based on actual events, Israel (read Mossad) does not screw around. They would not intentionally target kids but they are not going to let the possibility of co-lateral damage risk their country.
I’m stunned that you even ran this piece of propaganda. Did you miss the Egypt brokered cease fire that the Qasaam brigade immediately broke by firing rockets on Ashkelon? Hello? Never occurred that HAMAS have always hidden munitions and rocket factories and firing positions in civilian apartment buildings, which Israel actually take the time to call the people inside to evacuate? Imbecile.
And in so doing, it has every right to target civilians – even children – if it wants to.
I’m guessing (hoping) that this was just poorly written. No country has a “right” to target innocent bystanders and kids.
This applies to Israel blowing up kids playing on a beach just as much as it applies to America blowing up wedding parties with drones.
If God doesn’t stop them, doesn’t that make it a “God-given” right?
Don’t get us wrong: Israel has every right to launch preemptive or retaliatory strikes against any nation it wishes.
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Yeah, and Iran does too!
As did Japan.
Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.
If Israel was purposely targeting civilians there would be 100,000 dead already. Instead, it is about 200, most of whom were militants. The thing speaks for itself, hundreds of thousands of pounds of ordnance, 200 dead, most of whom were specifically targeted. Obviously care is being taken to avoid civilian casualties.
Bingo.
Don’t bring facts into a debate on this site- it confuses some of our friends here…
If Israel was purposely targeting civilians there would be 100,000 dead already.
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Not if it were targeting a few score or few hundred for a purpose.
Really what do you say about the soldier that took a photo of aiming a sniper at a Palestinian boys head
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2711977/
Who cares? They are muslims, followers of satan. Kill them all before they kill you. Killing non-muslims is the directive that all muslims follow. Any you leave alive will just come after you some day.
Little rock-throwing, suicide-bombing, terrorists just grow up to be big rock-throwing, suicide-bombing, terrorists.
There I fixed it!
Little rock-throwing, suicide-bombing, terrorists just grow up to be big rock-throwing rocket launching, suicide-bombing, terrorists.
i have an odd feeling that most people would agree that US favoritism is not helpful to the israeli problem but are cowed into silence. similar to 20 years ago when Irish americans were sending money to the IRA out of a sense of nostalgia and cultural self-identity. american christians need to get over their end-of-days fables and stop holding US policy hostage.
Didn’t Congress just allocate $600 million plus to upgrade Iron Roof (or whatever they cal lit)?
Derp. http://www.timesofisrael.com/20-missiles-found-in-un-run-school-in-gaza/
Children make wonderful shields. Ask any politician.
The line in Hunt for Red October says it all…”I’m a politician, when I’m not kissing babies, I’m stealing their lollypops”.
Love it!
Complete crap to say Israel is targeting kids. You’re just playing into the tactics of Hamas. They do things like shoot rockets from mosques and schools for this reason.
If Mexicans were shooting rockets into the US every damn day, we’d be occupying their country right now. Get real…
Conservatives condoned and defended grandma- and baby-murder Calley. They see no sin in the murder of “enemy” civilians. Never have. “Nuke’em” “Kill’em all” We read this blather weekly and have for decades.
This is a b/s article. The Palestinians need to get Hamas out of Gaza. We need to stop US Foreign Aid to the Palestinians in Gaza. Israel has two terrorist groups trying to destroy them, Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon. What would we do if Canada started firing rockets at us? In the meantime we don’t know how many terrorist are crossing the Mexican border right now. I agree with RogueElephant, kill them all. If I was Israel I would flatten, destroy the whole Gaza strip and stop Hamas from terrorizing Israel once and for all. Israel warns the Palestinians to get to a safe place but Hamas uses them as shields.
I’ll bet these “kill’em all” brayers howled and bitterly cried “Terrorists!” when Lebanese fighters blew up all those US MARINES in LEBANON.
There is not a shred of principle any more. No honor among warriors. Now, “It’s OK, nay heroic, for me and mine to kill your innocent civilians, but you are a foul terrorist for killing our heavily armed soldiers who have invaded your nation.”
“DIZZY: My mother always says that violence never solves anything.
RASCZAK: Really? I wonder what the city fathers of Hiroshima would have to say about that.
CARMEN: They probably wouldn’t say anything. Hiroshima was destroyed.
RASCZAK: Correct. Naked force has settled more issues in history than any other factor. The contrary opinion ‘violence never solves anything’ is wishful thinking at its worst. People who forget that always pay… They pay with their lives and their freedom.”
– from Heinlein’s Starship Troopers (the book, not the movie)
Their child murders just horrible people full of so much aggression and hate I don’t know who’s worse the terrorists or them.