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Ron Paul: What’s Missing In Immigration Debate

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Liberty_NC July 14, 2014 at 9:09 am

Ron Paul is considered brilliant by many simply because he is willing to address problems head-on and assess cause and effect. This is the only was problems get fixed in the real world. Sadly for America, the rest of the bunch just want to spin every bad situation for their own gain…

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idiotwind July 14, 2014 at 9:54 am

“liberals argue that we need to provide more welfare and assistance to these young immigrants, while conservatives would bus
them to the other side of the border, drop them off, and deploy drones to keep them out.” never heard these arguments made by anyone. ever. arguing against a fabricated position is a cynical and weak strategy. and what a shame Paul never did anything about the drug war while in congress.

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The Colonel July 14, 2014 at 11:31 am

Funny, “….what a shame Paul never did anything about the ____________ while in congress….” can be applied to his entire “public life”.

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Zach Martin July 14, 2014 at 11:08 pm

1 against 434. How likely was it that anything was going to get done?

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The Colonel July 14, 2014 at 11:17 pm

That’s kind off the point, his goofiness prevented “the smartest guy in the room” from ever building any coalitions to offer any really meaningful legislation with any real chance of getting passed.

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Zach Martin July 14, 2014 at 11:08 pm

Do you live in a bubble?

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ICE on his penis July 14, 2014 at 1:31 pm

Caption Contest:

“…and my penis is really this big, but I still need this cod piece.”

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idcydm July 14, 2014 at 2:55 pm

“What’s Missing In Immigration Debate”…enforcing immigration laws???

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Zachariah Wiedeman July 15, 2014 at 3:56 am

While I support the idea of open borders and zero immigration restrictions, I think using an OpEd that is arguing policy to toss in an attack the President’s emergency $3.7 billion funding request (he was only $300 million / 8% off) is NOT helpful at all.

The argument that this “…will do very little to solve the problem because it treats the symptoms instead of the cause,” is not really a good argument against the funding. Ron Paul loves medical analogies.

In medicine treating symptoms – especially painful and harmful symptoms – is also important. Good medicine treats causes while also alleviating symptoms. Telling someone to not take a pain reliever for their migraine because their migraine was caused by bad lighting in their workplace isn’t helpful. Yes, the patient does need to change their work environment to bring about a long term solution, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t also seek symptomatic relief!

So, while it is all fine and good to argue policy (in a very vague and abstract sort of way too – notice there are no practical, politically feasible steps of action outlined here), none of Ron Paul’s policy arguments are going to do anything to help the thousands of unaccompanied minors in detention centers who need to be dealt with now. Maybe Ron Paul should put the philosophizing aside for a moment and for once offer a real solution to a real problem instead of bloviating about how the problem wouldn’t exist if everyone would have listened to him in the first place.

You are not being helpful, Dr. Paul, and if you aren’t helpful then people will be less inclined to listen to anything you have to say – even if they might be inclined to agree with what you have to say. Please stop shooting yourself and your causes in the foot.

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Zachariah Wiedeman July 15, 2014 at 4:27 am

Also, as much as I want to like him, Ron Paul makes some pretty ignorant statements sometimes…

(1) “Over the past several weeks we have seen a significant increase in illegal immigration.” – There is virtually zero fact-based evidence to support this statement. What we HAVE seen over the past several weeks is media attention all of the sudden being drawn to a problem that has existed and been building towards a tipping point for a couple of years now.

(2) “In fact much of the problem can be directly traced to the U.S. drug war, which creates unlivable conditions in countries that produce narcotics for export to the U.S.” – While I am all for ending the “War on Drugs” that isn’t really the problem. For someone who likes to preach about treating causes and not symptoms, it is intellectually dishonest for Ron Paul to completely skip over the real problem here: Poverty. And, I’m sorry, but the U.S. drug war is not all that responsible for poverty in Latin America. There is actually no direct link at all. It is simply much more complicated than that. These unlivable conditions Ron Paul is referring to are all ultimately symptoms of poverty.

Now, we could have a lively discussion about the U.S. role in creating poverty in other countries, but is it reasonable to think that even if the U.S. “got its act together” and created a Libertarian Utopia in line with Ron Paul’s purest political philosophies (many of which I support to varying degrees) that global poverty would all of the sudden go away and no one would want to leave their countries to come to the United States? Now look who is focusing on symptoms rather than causes…

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PostSurgeOperative July 15, 2014 at 2:44 pm

Excellent comments. Ron Paul’s blaming the current on US drug policy is entirely predictable, as is his completely ignoring the effects that his investments in Goldcorp have on the environmental, social, and political conditions in Guatemala and Honduras, among other places. A lot of these kids are coming from those countries.

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lolohthor July 15, 2014 at 1:36 pm

Why is Dr. Paul only being featured on some fringe websites? None of the major news outlets are covering him at all. Shameful.

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Supernevadasmith July 15, 2014 at 5:40 pm

I would like to extend Dr . Paul ’ s Blowback analysis in Foriegn Policy to The War On Drugs / People ; And this Drug War / Holocaust – Yes , a Crime against Humanity – has debased The Bill Of Rights so US All are in a State of Constitutional Default .
The War On Drugs / People has corroded the complete structure of society in more expected , but especially unexpected ways then can be enumerated in this post .

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mathew idicula July 20, 2014 at 2:28 pm

“We live in a society healthare is provide”, wrong again asshole, how about the Reality is we all have human fralities, and the artificial cost of that is sometimes the cost to an individual is to much, and therfore millions are thus priced out of the heatlthcare market. Now why don’t you and Peter Sciff go gangbang a bar of gold.

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