LONE STAR STATE’S GOP ESTABLISHMENT EMBRACES ANTI-GAY PLATFORM
“Neoconservative” U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) has vowed to lead a GOP revolution in 2016 unlike anything America had seen since the days of Ronald Reagan.
“Something incredible is happening, something is sweeping the state of Texas, it’s sweeping every state,” Cruz told delegates to the Lone Star State’s Republican Party convention last week. “In 1980, we saw the Reagan Revolution, we saw in the face of stagnation, in the face of feckless, naive foreign policy, in the face of America getting weaker and weaker, we saw a grassroots movement that turned the country around … that same thing is happening today.”
Is it, though?
And if it is … who is being left out of this “movement?”
According to Texas Republicans – who cheered Cruz’s rhetorical flights – gay people are not invited to the movement. Unless of course the “gay” in them is somehow “straightened out.”
In fact the Texas GOP passed platform language endorsing “reparative therapy” – or experimental psychological treatments aimed at turning gay people straight.
Unreal …
This website does not condone the homosexual lifestyle, but we don’t condemn it either … and we explicitly reject any effort by government to meddle in people’s private lives (including the institution of marriage).
Whether “Republicans” like it or not, people have a right to be gay … and government should have absolutely nothing to do with the free exercise of decisions related to sexual orientation. In fact it baffles us that so-called “limited government” Republicans believe our bedrooms ought to be regulated – gay or straight.
The longer such short-sightedness endures, the longer homosexuals (and those who eschew discrimination) will steer clear of the GOP … and the longer such constituencies steer clear of the GOP, the longer its electoral drought will endure.
Funny how that works …
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Ted Cruz looks like such a whiny little pussy. I hope the Republicans put him up as their poster child for the next ten years or so. They will spin their wheels and fall further into the abyss that the Tea Party helped them create. With an assist from Palin, of course.
You must be a damnable liberal. I can tell by your pansy name calling. Opps I called you a pansy. Suck it up ,,, you’re used to sucking anyway!
That’s right! Cruz is Reagan with a tan. These pansy asses better pray to their lord-god Obama for help come ’16.
These pansy asses better pray to their lord-god Obama…
Pre-op “T”?
Yep, o ne and the same. GT loves cross dressing.
Why does FITS go after Cruz yet posts article from that racist,gay hating lunatic Ron Paul?
Rand Paul is certainly proving the ‘apple don’t fall far from the tree’.
Why does FITS go after Cruz yet posts article from that racist,gay hating lunatic Ron Paul?
Why do you suck?
Rafael Edward “Ted” Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada; a place with two pussy names in another country. Cruz’s loyalty is to Queen Elizabeth. How is a Canadian carpetbagger going to be elected President of the US? Oops, I guess he can’t be.
Yeah only a Kenyan can accomplish that feat.
Charlie Bowe Ervin is a ‘carpetbagger’ Republican? How can he be elected Gov of SC?
Oops, I guess he can’t be.
He looks a bit like a young Pat Buchanan.
what the fuck does it mean to “not condone the homosexual lifestyle”? in fact, what the fuck is “the homosexual lifestyle”? am i living ‘the heterosexual lifestyle’? Fits why do you insist on dropping reminders that you are a baccy chawin hayseed?
To quote an old and prolific poster from one of the local mainstream news sites a few years ago, “I support gay marriage as long as both chicks are really hot.”
“I support open gay marriage as long as both chicks are really hot.”
Fixed it for ya!
That’s another thing that burns my buns. Since when did people start calling themselves and what they do in their bedrooms a “lifestyle”. It’s a label that gay people have put upon themselves because they feel so unaccepted. And guess what? Gay people have been around since the beginning of time. I see a lot of census records during the course of my day. For instance, why did Uncle George never marry? Why did Aunt Mitty never marry and was a school teacher all of her life? Why did Aunt Ida run a boarding house and never married? I’m not saying these ancestors were gay, but do you know how hard people back then fought to hide it?? They would have been burned as witches in Salem’s heyday.
C’mon idiotwind. You know why that phrase is in this article. It’s to separate one’s self from the naysayers.
Actually, the whole “lifestyle” label was something the anti-gays dreamed up to emphasize homosexuality as an insane choice rather than a physical condition of being. I’m gay – a homosexual person. I do not engage in a specifically “homosexual lifestyle”. My lifestyle is decidedly traditional, in fact. The label you righteously decry is just another slander hurled at LGBT folk to stir up hostility, fear and contempt against us.
This is why the GOP is steadily eroding into nothingness. They keep non-issues like abortion and gays stirred up, while aiding and abetting things which take money out of our pockets and deprive us of more and more liberty.
It really is no skin off of my ass if the alternate-lifestyle couple down the street gets married. It really is not degrading my quality of life if a woman who choses not to bring a child into this world that she cannot care for adequately, either emotionally or financially, terminates the pregnancy. If anything, it is probably an improvement for society in that a child raised without the love and support that any child deserves, will have very good odds of winding up incarcerated in various facilities and/or victimizing people because of their lack of upbringing and love shown them in their early years.
I wish these twits would focus on real issues and quit with these they conjure up out fo a pot of shit they found on the side of the road.
Yep, you have to wonder what strategic genius deciding to make gay hate the rallying call that pushes the GOP over the edge in terms of electability with the general population.
It’s an amazing non winner…the GOP likes punching itself in the face aside from its own hypocrisy in regard to all the “limited government” talk
* deciding to decided
They keep non-issues like abortion and gays stirred up
It’s because the GOP are slaves to the religious right. If they don’t harp on these issues that drag them away from moderates, they don’t drum up the crazies in the voting booths.
I am religious and was raised, and still vote as a Conservative, if I feel the candidate is in line with my views. More and more, I keep leaning elsewhere (never to the current Democrat party which I loathe equally). However, don’t confuse ALL Republicans with the “religious right” (whatever that means because people have a right to express their beliefs and opinions, and there’s MANY Democrats out there who are religious too). Here’s what my God means to me: I was taught to love everyone equally. Love thy neighbor as thyself. Treat everyone like you would want to be treated. Am I gay? No. Do I hate someone for being gay? No. Do I understand what it means to love and cherish someone? Yes I do, and so do gay people. They have the right to be with the one they love and share the same benefits as heterosexual couples.
Abortion: I believe in a woman’s rights, if it does not interfere with the man’s rights as well. A “baby Daddy” has no rights in this state, and neither do grandparents. What if he, or the grandparents on either side, were able to adopt and care for the child? My nephew went through that. Luckily the child was born and he fought for him, but he lost because they weren’t married. I believe that a woman has the right to have an abortion. I actually approve of our state’s current law regarding that, and wish it could be stiffer. The young woman needs time and education to understand what will be happening to her body, and the understanding that it could result in not being able to bear children in the future. When all is said and done, and the young woman agrees to go ahead with the procedure, then I believe she has the right to make that decision.
And that’s my crazy “religious right” opinion.
Were your opinions uniform across Conservatives our national politics would be much improved. Furthermore, while you overstate the risk of sterility associated with an abortion procedure (by stating it at all – the chances are statistically insignificant), I can respect your personal stake. You have a more enlightened approach to politics than many of your fellow Conservatives. It must be very frustrating for you.
No offense, but if we are using the current political vernacular that is not a religious right opinion. That is a religious left opinion. As you said there is a religious left. There are even religious moderates, like me who are somewhere in between. I believe a woman should be allowed an abortion for rape, incest, or if the pregnancy is a threat to her life.
However, I also recognize that women will likely have abortions whether its legal or not. The “religious right” accepts no responsibility for this even though they are the cause of our current system. Their preference for the hell fire and brimstone of the Old Testament over the love preached by Christ led them to shun and deride women who became pregnant out of wedlock driving the into the alleys for abortions and forcing society to deal with a health issue.
——-It really is not degrading my quality of life if a woman who choses not to bring a child into this world that she cannot care for adequately, either emotionally or financially, terminates the pregnancy.——
It really is not degrading my quality of life if a woman/man who chooses not to raise their child to an adult that she/he cannot care for adequately, either emotionally or financially, terminates the child’s life.
Life is also degraded by poverty, poor education, neglect, and lost potential. These sins are further visited upon the rest of society as unwanted children grow up to add their greater contribution to crime and dependency. The reality of personal economics ultimately defeats the anti-abortion arguments.
So you support infanticide? Does the economics defeat anti-infanticide arguments?
We can decide on the value of the poor and if their value is not greater than expenses we can dispose of them. Even the poor want to live. They just don’t know any better, but we do.
I don’t doubt your simplistic savagery could arrive at that conclusion. Fortunately, our leadership is considerably more sophisticated.
The more you talk, the more obtuse you appear. The adults are talking. Either keep up or be silent.
In TBG’s lifetime, Texas was given us LBJ (Viet Nam War), Bush “Read my lips, No NEW TAXES!” Bush (Gulf War I), and “W” (Gulf War II, Afghanistan…)
PRO TIP:
When it comes to electing the POTUS…
Don’t mess with Texans!
Excellent points, TBG!
How’dat work out with Perry in the last election? Oh, and I think your parentheticals are the perfect reasons to begin ignoring that state. God forbid they put up another candidate. Who is left to go to war with?
Have you checked out Texas GDP growth, unemployment, or per capita income growth lately? Only frack gas North Dakota is doing better.
Have you checked out Texas GDP growth, unemployment, or per capita income growth lately?
Saudi Arabia does pretty well economically (for the same reason). Doesn’t mean TBG wants POTUS Abdullah bin Musa’ad bin Abdul Aziz.
Although he would probably be better than BHO and may already wield more influence in Washington.
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Shocked that no one has called out TBG for *hypocrisy* for his hating on all Texas POTUSes and wannabes: while at the same time fervently supporting former TEXAS congressman, Ron Paul…..
The exception that proves the rule, BEETCHEZ!!!
And Canada does better than the entire US in those categories so maybe we should open up the POTUS and allow Rob Ford to lead us in the right direction. Texas is lucky because of the natural resources and their willingness to use them as is North Dakota. If SC would drill for natural gas and oil we could be in the same bracket with no regard to whom is in office.
I don’t know if we should despise Texas or Dillon, SC more…both have contributed mightily to misery.
fucking funny it is
The GOP remains confident old white men and their Stepford wives is the voting block that will give them victory. Who are we to argue.
That’s why I’m sooooo sick of politics in general. Everyone has a right to their opinion and to express their views. However, if one is TELLING their constituents HOW they should feel, that goes completely against the right to express. It’s like yelling fire in a crowded theater. And ALL parties do that. Granted, the GOP has every right to express their opinions just as Democrats and we all do, but don’t shove it down peoples’ throats and claim there’s a fire in the theater.
Well, I don’t know – I had to get rid of my Stepford Wife when she became unplugged.
Women young and old who realize they are equal without having to act like a man will vote Republican.
I don’t know many lib women who act like men, thank god. Most lib women believe they are equal, even though the “right” thinks they can’t decide without a man’s input. You, sir are an idiot to post that.
——“thinks they can’t decide without a man’s input. You, sir are an idiot to post that.”—-
Garbage!
Liberals think women can’t decide without the government’s input. You ma’am are and idiot to post that.
Women can take care of themselves.
FU. Women make their own choices. The GOP tries to limit those choices. Women do take care of themselves, without the limits of the right wing bible thumpers.
Well! I’m for protecting those who can’t take care of themselves. Preborn boys and girls are unfortunately the most in need of protection. They can’t make their own choices.
And you can’t make the woman’s choice for them either. Period, and they aren’t preborn boys and girls, they are masses of cells, parasitic to the woman. Bless your heart.
I’m going to shower in three weeks. It is not for parasite’s host or for parasitic mass of cells. Your comment is viscous ignorant and unscientific.
I don’t blame women. It a choice we make as a society, not to value life. No one who can’t take care of themselves are parasites. Children, disabled or the mentally ill are not parasites.
I believe human life is inherently valuable and it’s value is not base on age, education or dependence on others.
Human life is not inherently valuable. The value of any life is the value it generates for those around it. That’s the essence of community. None of us “take care of ourselves”. We are all beholden to those around us who contribute to our quality of life as a nation. Contribution is our moral measure.
Sorry, but human life is inherently valuable. That is one of the pillars of our society. If you don’t believe that, liberty is valueless.
I’m not sure you are being honest with you beliefs here, and if you are you have an odd philosophy that doesn’t really match up with anyone I know, left or right. You actually sound more like Ayn Rand; but don’t tell the right that, they like her until someone tells them she was not a Christian.
In our system of government, the government is charged with protecting life. The problem I have with bible thumper and members of the so called religious right, is for them that obligation ends when the doctor cuts the umbilical cord. Life seems to lose value when you are outside the womb.
That’s rhetorical clap-trap (“one of the pillars of our society” “liberty is valueless”). The pillars of our society are based on an order for protecting our own lives via cooperation with others and maximizing the value gained through individual self-determination. Our liberty is measured to the degree that we can pursue our own happiness while leaving others to do the same. Furthermore our government is charged with keeping order and protecting our resources/territories, over and above any protection it offers to an individual life.
Your statements are a nonsense. Also, perhaps my views do not correspond to either extreme left or right because our national reality falls somewhere in the middle.
Actually I would not describe your views as in the middle at all. I would say they are ultra far right. You seem to believe the value of human life is measured by what a person produces for others to consume. Frankly that makes you sound like a potential monster. Your philosophy would easily justify killing the elderly,disabled and mentally ill.
Only if you’re into sci-fi fantasies. I suggest that you grow up and TRYYY to remember that running around killing people is neither popular, nor easy, nor cost-effective.
Not so. I just differ on the role government plays. Government is a protector, but only a provider of last resort. Obligation begins with the parents, then family, then local community, then charity and only finally with the government. When the government provides it creates more and more demand, making the problem worse.
That is the Nazi ideology. First they killed the mentally ill, elderly and infirm.
You have a childish idea that measure by merit somehow equates to killing people. (Perhaps that’s your solution to dealing with moral differences. Somehow I’m not surprised.)
Any comparison to the Nazis is just silly. The Nazis were racists who took advantage of local nationalism and their own religious narrative to ignore the value and contribution of minority groups living in Germany. You contrive a comparison to drive a false point. Perhaps you can write off whole communities as having no value. (Gays, referring back to the original article, would rate lower by your standard.)
You ask why those around you have value. That should be obvious. You create value for them and they for you. So long as that occurs consistently in an orderly, secure, safe, and sufficiently amiable/respectful context, we call it a community. Communities exist for the mutual and respective benefit of each contributing member.
Finally, I don’t care what you hold sacred. No person, belief, or system is above objective scrutiny. Much of what you hold sacred may have value – so either define it or defer to someone who can (and I don’t mean your imaginary being in the sky). Some of what you hold sacred nets a cost which you want others to pay on your behalf. That’s immoral on your part and stupid on theirs. You spew rhetoric like “life based on utility creates horrific societies”. Well the USA is one of those societies and is far from horrific.
At the end of the day, your lot isn’t whining over our fall from grace as a nation, but merely your own loss of undeserved privilege.
You have a childish idea that measure by merit somehow equates to killing people. (Perhaps that’s your solution to dealing with moral differences. Somehow I’m not surprised.)
Any comparison to the Nazis is just silly. The Nazis were racists who took advantage of local nationalism and their own religious narrative to ignore the value and contribution of minority groups living in Germany. You contrive a comparison to drive a false point. Perhaps you can write off whole communities as having no value. (Gays, referring back to the original article, would rate lower by your standard.)
You ask why those around you have value. That should be obvious. You create value for them and they for you. So long as that occurs consistently in an orderly, secure, safe, and sufficiently amiable/respectful context, we call it a community. Communities exist for the mutual and respective benefit of each contributing member.
Finally, I don’t care what you hold sacred. No person, belief, or system is above objective scrutiny. Much of what you hold sacred may have value – so either define it or defer to someone who can (and I don’t mean your imaginary being in the sky). Some of what you hold sacred nets a cost which you want others to pay on your behalf. That’s immoral on your part and stupid on theirs. You spew rhetoric like “life based on utility creates horrific societies”. Well the USA is one of those societies and is far from horrific.
At the end of the day, your lot isn’t whining over our fall from grace as a nation, but merely your own loss of undeserved privilege.
Gays are just as valuable as any one else. I OPPOSE the Texas GOP platform.
——–“Well the USA is one of those societies and is far from horrific.——-
In USA it just as much crime for Einstein to kill a bum as for a bum to kill Einstein. The same punishment applies because they equal before the law.
The USA is not one of those societies, is not fallen from grace and has better days ahead. We are bless but not greatful.
The USA has only what grace and blessings that it creates for itself. “Equality before the law” was introduced to enhance stability for our fledgling fragmented society where corruption at the top was assumed (quite correctly, in fact). That concept remains because of the value it creates in stabilizing our politics across a now multicultural society. We are very much a utilitarian society. Your inability to measure value and cost systemically is where your confusion lies.
The country has many roots. Some originate in Greece, some Rome, but Christianity one of the deepest. We finally share a value. Equality before the law. But I believe mine comes from a deeper source less likely to be shaken.
Yet I’ve already witnessed those steeped in Christianity where it is clearly nonexistent. You either have a sense of justice and integrity or you don’t. The Christian label doesn’t provide good character but it is certainly used to obscure bad.
Human rights develop over time. The speed of their development is greater in historically Christian countries. Hardly any non Christian countries are democracies. Japan…?
So what? The spread of Christianity follows political, economic, and social changes already present in a particular area. Religious narratives become popular in reflection to and support of where development is already heading. As mentioned before, Christianity is a tool and a flexible one at that. Nor is it the only one of its kind. It’s here for how we use it.
You are asserting your own ego and nothing more. Those pregnancies aren’t yours to protect. They are are the purview of their maybe-parents and you can keep your nose out of their business and on your own.
——Those pregnancies (children) aren’t yours to protect.——-
The same argument can be made for children who are born, yet our laws are supposed to protect them. Butting your nose in to protect a child is our business and is supposed to be the purpose of DSS.
No it can’t because a child once born is no longer part of his mother. Once again, you contrive an argument on a false premise to assume authority. Well, you don’t have it and we’re better for it.
FU.
Hell, yeah.!!
THE PALADINS!!!
Sure, they can decide without the government’s input but also without the government’s interference.
Yea, right, but as I said, who am I to argue.
A bunch of idiotic activists are writing the platform. No one pays any attention to platforms since the nation moved to primaries over conventions and caucuses.
Please name one prominent Republican that supported this platform possition.
TBG is going to say ….Michelle “GT’s Belle” Bachmann. … ITBGRC, for the most “Republican” of reasons. Doesn’t her husband own a business that claims to do just that?
I support Christianity. That doesn’t mean that l support it as government policy or want it in the party platform.
Somebody has to be voting for it. Otherwise it would not be “the Platform”. So if you voted for it you supported it. In fact I think that is the definition of support, in this context at least. If they register the votes openly, we could look and see, but I’ll bet no major GOP leader who could vote voted against it.
But do I think really think the Republican Party is anti-gay, anti-immigrant, and anti -women who want to be equal with men? ….Yes.
“No one pays any attention to platforms”
Correction:
“Most” participants in conventions are extreme elements, but unfortunately volunteers often come from convention participants(not all extremists). So legitimate candidates can’t ignore them.
“Republican Party is anti-gay, anti-immigrant, and anti -women who want to be equal with men? ….Yes.”
By Republican if you mean elected or electable candidates and Republican voters(of course there are some bigots in every group including Democrats) they are none of the above. Our Republican governor is a woman and child of Immigrants and there are many others.
Ah, the old look at Nikki, look at Jindal ploy. The GOP deals with issues this way. If the poll say they are trending anti- Hispanic, they look for an Hispanic to run for something. If the polls say trending anti-women, they look for a woman to run for something. It does not change anything they are doing or believe; but hey, if the governor of SC is a woman, our platform can’t be anti-working women.
Republican policies are bad for gay people, bad for minorities, and bad for women who think they are equal with men.
———“Republican policies are bad for gay people, bad for minorities, and bad for women who think they are equal with (White/straight)men.”———
The way Democrats garner their support is by convincing and believing that they are unequal and the only way they will be equal is the government tips the scale in their favor. Republicans believe they are created equal.
Democrats believe some government policy treating certain groups differently is going to balance the scale for those born inferior. It won’t work because the group receiving the favorable benefits will always suspect they are inferior.
Actually, I don’t care whether democrats as a party are supported or not. I vote for people not parties. That said as best I can tell Republicans don’t give two hoots about whether people are equal or not. They support favorable benefits for rich people and corporations over poor and middle income people.They only want poor and middle income people to believe they give a crap about them. Remember the 42% of people Romney talked about ignoring, because they are worthless takers.
So its not a question of whether one side favors policies that support one group over another, both do to some degree. Its just that the Republicans want a lot more for their group and a lot less for everyone else. That is why they are fighting campaign finance laws. The ability to bribe politicians favors rich people. That is why the oppose transparency for political contributions. Rich people want to give politicians a lot of money in secret. That is why they favor sales taxes over income taxes. Sales taxes benefit rich people. That is why they want to get rid of social security and Medicare. Those are programs that benefit middle income people. That is why they want to cut public education. It primarily benefits poor and middle income people. That is why they oppose equal pay for women. That is why they oppose family leave policies. That is why they oppose expanded Medicaid to help the working poor afford health care. I could go on and on, but you have already drank the Republican cool aid.
That said as best I can tell Republicans don’t give two hoots about whether people are equal or not..
Surely,even dumbass GOPers recognise that people aren’t equal. Yet they seem to understand that all people should be treated equally under the law…something the Democrats don’t seem to get….
Obviously you did not read my post. No, they don’t recognize that, and make no efforts in that regard. They believe people with a lot of money and corporation should be given preferences over everyone else, on some theory that if we make the rich richer the money will fall out of their pockets and the rest of us can pick some of it up. Actually I don’t think they really believe that, I believe they are paid to say that and vote that way.
So you don’t believe it is self evident all men are created equal?
So you don’t believe it is self evident all men are created equal?
Equal, inalienable, God given rights that we established a government to secure….yes.
Equal abilities?
Please?
Yet they seem to understand that all people should be treated equally under the law
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except returning soldiers.. [think about it]
gays, islamo fascists, atheists, Goldman Sachs [the person], the Koch brothers [one dollar, one vote], hoodie wearers…
On the contrary. The county committee people have the power to establish the pot luck menu for the Thursday evening complain about everything dinner. Some weeks they go with roast pork, but always they like the yams with the marshmellows on top.
Rocky, now you’ve opened the door to the best secrets of church socials that Southerners have spent generations hiding in an effort to stall the migration of Yankees and carpetbaggers! The roll call of the best cooking—–
1] – Methodists….. string beans
2] – Baptists….. fried chicken
3] – Church of Christ….. cornbread
4] – Presbyterians……rolls
5] – Episcopalians……hams and roasts
6] – Catholics……anything spicy, smells of garlic, but tastes great –for days
7] – Free-Will Baptists……chocolate layer cakes, lemon pies, and banana pudding
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The common denominator regarding denominational cooking is in the iced tea, sweetened with real sugar. If you like your iced tea unsweetened, you better get right with the Lord because based on the evidence in question you’re in a bunch of trouble.
The list seems incomplete without “real” macaroni and cheese (Assemblies of God), brown rice (Lutheran), potato salad(Southern Methodist) and deviled eggs (?).
Deviled eggs (Satanism)…
Deviled eggs (Satanism)…
TBG played a nice setup there, yes?
Anyone know what became of Shifty Henry??
His humor is direly missed …
A change in Disqus disabled his browser in Windows 8 on his bread and butter machine. He bravely limped along for a few more days with an old XP machine he duct taped together… but, alas, he finally succumbed to the steep physical and mental cost of switching machines…
There have been sightings…. dusty threadbare top hat… stubble… shuffling… slouching… darkness…despair..
Devil eggs – heathen Episcopalian.
4] – Presbyterians……rolls
Southern Baptists ……. biscuits made with lard. That is why we can’t get along.
biscuits made with lard.
*Homer Simpson voice*
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…… lard…..momp momp…..
Is Teddy planning to double the national debt like Reagan did?
Oh, but I remember on the old TV show Soap the lady saying – “We don’t have gays in Texas.”
Actually the biggest thing out of this unmentioned – in a state were (ready for this) 35% of the voting population is Hispanic – they’ve decided to include in the Texas GOP platform that they stand against legalization for undocumented immigrants. Odd, but with a sleeping giant of Hispanic voters – don’t ya think that’s a bit dumb. But then everythings bigger in Texas, including the stupidness of their state GOP (and the guys running around Targets, Chili’s, Sonics and Wal Marts with AR-15s loaded and slung over their shoulders. Man, Texas and Georgia – two states I now will fully avoid.
My brother joined the Republican party to show he wasn’t really gay. The boy was flamng out so hard I thought that closet of his was going to burn the house down.
Yeah, some of us do some really silly things along that vein. It’d be worth a chuckle if it wasn’t so pathetic.
WTF does this have to do with Ted Cruz? So now Cruz is a neocon so you can play up Rand Paul? Please ask Rand to grab a breath mint when he finishes blowing Mitch McConnell. Just curious if Mace comes in no where near 2nd place tomorrow will you call her out for being a liar.
I don’t understand how this so called “reparative therapy” can be considered “hateful” if a homosexual person wants therapeutic help with their sexual identity. This article is nothing more than an attempt to slam the GOP and to get the hate filled minions who are a part of the forum to join in the angry mob. Everybody grab your pitchforks and torches.
But as part of a political platform? That actually is just part of their insanity of late. Did you notice last week the Texas GOP wanted to abolish the development of critical thinking skills in schools, as such skills undermine parental authority?!!!
Can critical thinking even be taught? The root of opposition to the ‘critical thinking” agenda, is to stop a lot of the very questionable methods public school administrators are adopting to teach sex education. Would you want your child to be taught that “real men love their women every day of the month” juxtaposed with a picture of an adult male who’s face is covered in blood. Is that the type of critical thinking skills we need pushed on our children?
Critical thinking skills are at the very core of an education. That is why so many right-wingers are terrified of education. They know that if they have to admit they are wrong about one thing, they might be wrong about another (i.e, the good Lord above, the earth being 6,000 years old, etc). Life in a bubble is much more tolerable for many people.
I see your point, but do you think a photo of a man who’s face is covered in blood, alongside the sentiment “real men love their women every day of the month” is appropriate for a sex education class?
Not sure about that. Sounds like it might be too graphic for a class, though.
… a photo of a man who’s face is covered in blood,…
CAPTION:
Although, “real men love their women every day of the month”; real women don’t want to *make* love every day of the month. Be glad if you get it once a week….now quit bothering me… or I’ll wack you up side the head again!!!!
*picture of Roseanne Barr holding a bloodied cast iron skillet.*
Do you think the average IQ of children will ever be high enough to understand reproduction, love and sexual desire as subjects that can be discussed seriously, or with humor, as appropriate? Or will children forever be trapped in a shallow, prurient universe, completely beyond anyone’s control?
Will a well-groomed vagina ever be appreciated on its own merits, as a grand symphony – rather than a dangerous indulgence?
Will our fear of the word “fuck” last out this century?
PRO TIP:
The proper way to prepare kidney is to cook the piss out of it.
Because in the process of the “therapy” the “therapists” quite often demonize the sexual preference of the individual, usually with religious doctrine, and refuse to accept that what someone is sexually attracted to is not at all a choice and is essentially hard-wired into each and every person.
This “therapy,” at best, merely enables one to not act on their attractions; it doesn’t eliminate the attraction whatsoever. You can’t make a gay man not find some men attractive just as you can’t make a lion not like the taste of meat.
This “therapy,” at worst, makes a person hate themselves for something they can’t change, even if they don’t act on their attractions, to the point where they become depressed and/or suicidal over it. When it involves heavy religious overtones, it only exacerbates the problem because then the person feels they are failing whatever god by their inability to suppress something they can’t suppress, or rejecting whatever god by stopping.
You should seriously Google victims of such therapy and the kind of stuff they endured, or when their attempts at heterosexual relationships created high amounts of anxiety and depression over forcing themselves into something that just did not work for them.
I also find it extremely disheartening that parents send their kids to these kinds of “therapy” because of actions perceived as “gay” or “too feminine/masculine.” If there is any group that is at risk of suicidal thoughts it is teenagers who are just starting to experience their attractions for the first time.
I was purely speaking for “patients” 18 year old and older. I actually hadn’t really thought about guardians forcibly involving their adolescent children in the therapy, something I am wholeheartedly against.
A lot of Quackery involved with this type of work, but if a doctors and insurance companies are willing to provide sex reassignment surgery with life long hormone treatments they should at least research the possibility of reassigning their preferences and gender identity, but such research has not been promising. I believe the medical profession considers it politically incorrect.
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Yeah, nothing like a good bit of electro shocks to the head…and a lobotomy.
Yes, men used to request that for their wives when they went through menopause. Institutionalized their wives for “therapy” all the while shacking up with a newer model.
Yes, men used to request that for their wives when they went through menopause. Institutionalized their wives for “therapy” all the while shacking up with a newer model.
Maybe the “older models” had become *gasp*… ” parasites”?
*Sometimes, TBG just luvvvvvs to throw gas on the fire….*
If my ears could roll like my eyes.. they would have when I heard “Sex after menopause doesn’t have to hurt”… as though someone thinks it must.
SCBlueWoman, you just made that up.
Electroconvulsive therapy is still used today, effectively.
It is not a lobotomy, turn you in to a zombie or Stepford wife/husband. It is used on men.
I’m expecting you to respond with an joke belittling those who have benefited from it. You liberals so ignorant.
Everybody grab your pitchforks and torches.
TBG starts searching for a lighter…..
Aha!!!
TBG starts looking for a lighter that works…
Meh.
Wrong team anyway.
“ok, any of our gay members who were moved by our altar call and wants to be baptized, meet with the man in the sunglasses [raises a finger, flashing capped teeth] after church and sign up for sexual reassignment. Financing is available and there are still some grants available.”
“don’t forget – hell is forever!”
If you listen to Cruz, Paul, etc. they are constantly saying the majority of Americans support their extreme conservative agenda. If that is really true, why are they making it more difficult to vote, gerrymandering districts and using questionable organizations to hide their donors? Are “conservatives” really more American than “liberals”?
Texas wedge issues are a bit different than other states. People from Texas act macho and like to remind everyone they are from Texas all the time.
Are liberals more American than Conservatives? I don’t think so. I think we have millions of people in this country on both sides of the aisle that feel just as passionate about our America as I do – equally. Unfortunately, politics and childish rhetoric get in the way of a common sense approach to the problems we face today.
If common sense is so common, why is it so highly prized?
You know what people in the Navy say, right? “It’s OK for a man to suck another man’s penis… as long as you love him.”
It’s hilarious that you act like the enlightened voice on this issue and use phrases like “gay lifestyle,” which, in your generous open-minded way, you don’t “condemn.” What’s next, you pompously refrain from condemning the blue eyes lifestyle?
What’s next, you pompously refrain from condemning the blue eyes lifestyle?
The blue eyes lifestyle was gangsta cool before gangsta was cool, Chief.
Gay Hate?????….I just don’t think what you do in your bedroom is a how you define an American…
Yet FITS is a Liberal Tarian…and he thinks sexual preference…is a civil right…
You are one ignorant mothetf#*+er if you you take this idiot seriously…
You still honkin’?
You still Brain Dead???…LMAO..
I was thinking Obama had handed the White House to the Republicans in ’16.
But, it looks like the Republican Party is going to allow their ultra right wing “haters’ to put Hillary in office.
The only bright spot in the whole mess?
Old SLICK WILLIE gonna be back up in the BIG HOUSE
YOU BETCHA!
YOU BETCHA!
“Pray that Devil’s gay away!” — what a political stance.
Fits, this your second worst post of the year. People do not have the “right” to be gay. They possess the proclivity to be a homosexual.
Citizens elect representatives that can criminalize these proclivities. Representatives in our state can appoint judges to rule on such proclivities. Same applies at the federal level. Judges can be appointed to affirm decisions stare decisis or break precedent by a simple majority ruling.
The only rights we have are enumerated in the Articles of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. If you look at an organizational chart of the three US Federal Branches of government, the Constitution is placed ABOVE any federal branch. Our Rights are protected by the oaths our military swears or affirms to, elected officials swear or affirm to, civil or public workers swear or affirm to.
The problem we have in our Republic is buffoons like you who are brainwashed products of pop culture, pop psychology, and pop education.
A proclivity brought about by early childhood trauma or indoctrination
TBG’s GAYDAR operates on the assumption that much of it is genetic, also….
You can hormonal imbalances during gestation expressing as opposite sex characteristics to one’s gender. There is nothing genetic about female on female copulation and fellatio or male on male copulation and fellatio. The former is possible in nature the latter is all about deeply disturbed psyche from trauma or indoctrination.
Thanks for the edit.
TBG read your original 4 or 5 times last night …..
Though we disagree on the nature/nurture thing we are in total agreement that the government and the gay lobby inflate the number of gays.
Your estimate is probably pretty low based on the fact that a number of gay couples are not interested in marriage and according to Justin Raimondo the concept of “marriage” is an anathema to the male gay lifestyle.
Once again, both sides wander off, scratching the itch **metaphor alert!**. There really is nothing more to say that hasn’t already been said by CinC (below), although I think I would say it in a SLIGHTLY different way.
But our side, conservatives & libertarians who believe there is place for everyone in America – even Democrats, except Obama – needs to understand that there are waves upon waves of Americans who will not stand to have unfamiliar mores substituted for their own. It is becoming more possible every day that these people are willing to fight to keep what they believe to be right. These are the people, and there are millions of them, to whom Ted Cruz speaks. And they are EVERYWHERE.
Don’t think you are clever by dismissing them. These people need to be convinced gently and slowly. Why? Because there are far more of them than there are of us.
There is a wonderful science fiction book, now out of print, in which the people rise up and burn down all the schools, all the factories, all the churches, all the laboratories, etc., because the clever few forced ideas on the people they were not ready for. In the end, a few scientists saved the knowledge and even went far beyond, but they had to do it in secret, convincing the now agrarian society that they were magicians and witches and that healing the sick and so forth was magic.
In the end, the protagonist of the book comes to realize that scientific goals must be achieved with humility, and the agreement of the society it serves.
PRO TIP:
There is danger inherent in setting oneself up as a magician or witch to the rubes.
*You guys at the Federal Reserve should really take this “Pro Tip to heart.
Democrats and Rhino’s are not evaluating their push for immigration reform beyond the short term. Cruz was educated in America. He was immersed in our culture through the calender and the media. His is the moment with which he identifies. There are several misnomers they have applied to Mexican/Central American immigrants. One is that they are very bigoted towards Blacks and homosexuals, not the other way around. Secondly is they are not educated in what liberal runs schools pass off as knowledge. They have their own calendar and beliefs. Third, they are catholics. If you think there are waves and waves of Americans slow in accepting the homosexual/atheist culture being pushed on them…wait a while. Mexicans will be the force multiplier for Buckley Conservatism. My only concern with the current amnesty bills floating around is the shock in expenses to be accrued versus the current state of our economy. Money will be scarce and any trend to fix the gap in wages for immigrants will tip towards conservative not progressive candidates at the polls. Mexicans are not wanton to sit around on welfare. They are creative and hard working people who will work for their goals. Get ready, the GOP will be the beneficiary of immigration reform that being the Buckley Conservative wing.
It takes high-minded leaders with a vision to drive change. The GOP can effect no meaningful change so long as it’s held hostage by these low-minded religious interests.
Low-minded, yes. Didn’t see religion mentioned in the article. Perhaps one of your low-minded stereotypes.
They go hand-in-hand, actually, as you personally demonstrate.
Low-minded: inclined to vulgar or unworthy things.
High-minded: Having strong moral principles:high-minded notions of what good persons want to be.
Since you espouse a version of Christianity that seeks to excuse prejudice, subjugate women to pregnancy, and promote a magic book as the standard for morality over measured value, virtue, and contribution, I daresay that your beliefs constitute vulgar and unworthy things.
—–“Christianity that seeks to excuse prejudice,”——
Never!
Childbirth would be subjugation only in the case of rape, in which case the law should allow abortion.
——“morality over measured value, virtue, and contribution—The greatest morality is often seen in those society least values and whose contribution is not measure able in dollars or any other way.
That magic book inspired the development of science, colleges, hospitals, the abolition of slavery and Martin luther King. It still inspires today.
Bull. The sciences, colleges, hospital, and anti-slavery concepts were established long before the magic book and were driven by necessity, human ingenuity, and our common sense of justice. Your magic book, like many others, is a culturally convenient communications tool. I quote scripture where poetically appropriate. I also quote from a variety of other texts.
You are dining history if you deny the contributions of Christians. There have been slave rebellions before, but you will have to provide evidence that slavery was opposed on principle by free people before Christians did. It is not a coincidence that gay rights movement originated in a Christian culture.
Nor was it a coincidence that American Christian culture as we now know it became established among our people in the first place. Nigeria and Uganda also have Christian cultures – significantly different from ours. Christianity is a cultural tool. It live or dies within our culture on the value it creates as a shared context for communication, not the so-called truth it reveals.
I’m embarrassed by my spelling on my phone. Autocorrect:-(
There is a lot in the bible besides magic. The magic is good, but it is for the kids,milk. There is plenty of meat for the adults.
Indeed – at the moment gay men are the red-meat for the Nigerian and Ugandan Christians. Good job.
I watched the POV program “God Loves Uganda” about that.
Well, Uganda is not unique in its disdain for gay folk and Christianity is not the cause of it. It’s simply part of the method used to communicate and focus existing antipathy for political advantage. The Texas GOP is attempting the same thing, albeit American-style. Both the Ugandan gov’t and the Texas GOP are throwing an unpopular “other” to the dogs for the entertainment of the howling mob.
These policies cost a few lives – a few more murders in Uganda, a few more suicides here. Our additional body-count will contain the younger, more morally conscious, more emotionally sensitive sort. Many years ago, in the parking lot of a gay club in Charlotte, NC, I helped remove the body of a very young man from his mother’s car with a garden hose stuffed in the exhaust pipe. Never mind how you’ll spin yours (and his) faith clean of any role in that tragedy. It’s enough to say that I’m not a fan of simplistic fairy-tales that give license to anti-intellectual savages to socially torture the “different” into hating their lives. That’s your bible and every other. That’s you and your “sacred” dogmas. (Don’t give me any “love the sinner, hate the sin” crap.) Now, I don’t give a damn what nonsense you use to stabilize your emotional self but you and yours continue to legitimize these xenophobic myths via our law. Fine for you, toxic to us.
You want it it both ways. You blame all the bad things on Christianity, but dismiss all the good. I’m no defender of fundamentalists views, only their right to have them.
When a faith, Christianity or otherwise, teaches you to despise the different and to codify that prejudice into law, it’s a pretty bad thing. Sure enough, faith and the communities of faith, mine included, do many great things and help many people in need. These good works do not excuse them when their power turns toward bigotry and sadism.
Christianity never seeks to excuse prejudice? LOL. I’ve met plenty of your “inspired” witch-doctors who went out of their way to condemn, insult, attack and degrade LGBT folk at our own pride festivals – the one event when we tell our own that they are not alone and forever subject to your sadism. I’m glad to have lived long enough to see your favorite chew-toy taken away.
Furthermore you don’t define when childbirth becomes subjugation. That’s up to the maybe-mother. It’s her body, not yours.
Finally, the development of the sciences and the concepts of university education, hospitals, and the abolition of slavery were all driven by necessity, human ingenuity, and a common sense of empathy and justice. If your magic book hadn’t been available, another would have been used, most likely with similar values expressed in the narratives. We make these magic books for our own consumption, after all.
Aren’t there gay Christians? Did any Christians March with you? If not that is a shame.
There are many gay Christians with my husband among them. The casual observer might call me one. They simply do not ascribe to the fundamentalist interpretation of their Christian bible or revelation. Of course, you’ll find these few and far between in Texas. Many of them refugee here to Atlanta.
Once again, author, don’t use the term “gay lifestyle” unless you can define what that lifestyle is. We don’t live our lives any differently from the majority of Americans. We have jobs, pay taxes, pay mortgage or rent, raise kids, shop for food. There’s yer gay lifestyle.
Fabulous response. Just fabulous.
actually, there is one area where gays have a ‘lifestyle’ different from hetrosexuals…. we tend to have much better taste and very nice homes