FUNDRAISING SCANDAL REVEALS UGLY TRUTH ABOUT AMERICAN POLITICS
Sant Singh Chatwal – a major donor on Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign – pleaded guilty this week to making more than $180,000 in illegal campaign donations to three unnamed candidates.
The hotel magnate was also caught on tape vocalizing what everyone already knows about American politicians: That they don’t give a damn about you unless you’re giving them money.
Without big dollar political contributions “nobody will even talk to you,” Chatwal said on a 2010 recording made by a U.S. Justice Department (DOJ) informant.
“That’s the only way to buy them, get into the system,” Chatwal said.
Oh say does that star-spangled banner yet wave …
Chatwal raised more than $100,000 for Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential bid, although it’s not yet known whether Clinton was one of the recipients of his illegal largesse. The DOJ said there was no evidence that the three recipients of Chatwal’s illegal donations were involved with – or even aware of – his scheme.
In addition to Clinton, Chatwal has donated money to numerous Democratic politicians including Senate majority leader Harry Reid, U.S. Sen. Mark Warner (D-Virginia), U.S. Sen. Jon Tester (D-Montana) and former U.S. Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Connecticut).
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The DOJ said there was no evidence that the three recipients of Chatwal’s illegal donations were involved with – or even aware of – his scheme.
Well, of course not!!
These people just give tens of thousands of dollars to them for perfectly innocent reasons.
For example….
Uhhhhh…
TBG needs a litle help….
Because….Koch Brothers….Because George Soros
One dollar one vote!
it’s altruistic – you know, like libertarian contributions… it comes from the purity of soul and selflessness that identifies you as a true patriot.
That’s what Nancy Mace says. Give her money and you are a patriot.
I’m still trying to figure out how Nancy Mace’s campaign got my email address – I receive regular emails from her – never signed up for anything – never contacted her or her campaign – and not a snowball’s chance in hell that I would vote for her . . .
Two words for you. Sic Willie.
Same here. I think she got mine because I had her do some business for me a couple years ago…big mistake, but she was recommended by a “friend”. She didn’t get it from this site, since I obviously don’t use a real address here…
Maybe FITS is coughing up the emails of registered commenters…
God *then* country
give your money to Benny Hinn.
Reminds me of the Koch Brothers – minus one and minus the turban of course. And who cares anyway after the Supreme Court’s latest campaign finance ruling – and weren’t you shocked that the Republican National Committee joined McCutcheon in bringing that case to the Supremes . . .
Exactly. This guy committed a crime that would be allowed, even encouraged, under the last Supreme Court ruling.
You are truly an idiot.Can’t you put your socialist talking points away for just ONE day?
Koch Brothers?They gave away a billion dollars to charity last year alone.
Now go ask mommy for the EBT card and get some breakfast.
You are blind fool. You have let those idiots convince you they are not paying off politicians for economic gain and political gain. Maybe if you took your Fake News Network, Limbaugh and Beck blinders off for one minute you would see what his happening to this country.
I see what is happening.Redistribution of wealth (Cato Institute has stated that Obamacare is exactly that-with an unaffordable health care policy attached).Perversion of traditional marriage.A million abortions a year.Obama has now made Israel our enemy while he supports the muslim brotherhood in arab countries.Iran is being allowed to build the bomb and Putin rolls on like Hitler did in the 30’s.It is almost like Obama is TRYING to destroy this country.Guess that is why 61% of the American people believe Obama to be a liar.
Hey rebell,
What perverts traditional marriage more? Allowing gays to marry, or divorce among straight people? Is one worse than the other? What if you are on your 4th marriage, like your hero Limbaugh? Is that worse than one gay marriage? Please explain.
If a man wants toooo marry another man or a cow or a fly or a tomato,I don’t care.It is indeed a slippery slope.Why couldn’t someone marry their own mother or father?The Bible says Adam and Eve,NOT Adam and Steve however none of my business in what someone else does in their own personal life.
Personal life, no, but when it is recognized by our laws and courts, it is no longer just personal.
Bible Thumper – But you still do not get it – our laws and our courts are not governed by your religious beliefs. Our laws and our courts recognize heterosexual marriage – so that is not longer “just personal” either, huh?
Thumper is correct.It crosses the ‘personal’ line when it is recognized by our laws and courts.
Say I got an apartment upstairs I want toooo rent.Say I got small children/grandchildren living with me.Why should I have tooooo rent that apartment to a same-sex couple if I don’t want my children/grandchildren exposed to this living arrangement,based on my religious beliefs?
If forced to do so my religious rights have been violated and it is no longer just ‘personal’.
In that situation, no one could force you to rent to anyone that you did not want to. All of the Housing discrimination laws exempt someone from Fair Housing regulations when they are renting part pf their residence or just 1 or 2 units. An apartment complex would be subject to Fair Housing regs.
Correct. Marriage is an interest to the state.
Isn’t this thread about illegal campaign contributions? So why aren’t we arguing about racism?
…because South Carolina is…. nah..
Jim Crow laws were recognized by our courts.Did that make it right?30,000,000 million taxpayers have been aborted since Roe v.Wade was recognized by our laws and courts.Does it make it right?Obamacare is recognized by our laws and our courts.Does it make it right?
10,000,000 illegals in this country.Many are receiving government subsidies despite what our laws and what the court says.It is always personal.
“If a man wants toooo marry another man or a cow or a fly or a tomato . . .”
If you do not understand the difference between one human being marrying another human being as opposed to a man marrying a cow or a fly or a tomato, then kindly please stay away from my farm animals and my unwelcome house pests and my salad . . .
What percentage of people think Congressional Republicans are liars?
ME! ME! ME! ME!
what percentage of people are in the reality-based community?
You may be raising the bar a little bit too high for all of us who frequent FitsNews . . . .
I wonder if the reality-based community isn’t just disenchanted with the whole process, and ceding it to the nutbags by default.
I hope all the girls are wearing dresses.
I guess you haven’t been paying attention, there HAS ALREADY been a redistribution of wealth. From the poor and middle class to the Upper class, The income concentration within the the top 10 percent, and especially the top 1 % has never been higher than since just prior to the Depression.
Trickle-down has obliterated the middle class to the benefit of the ones at the top, like Koch, Limbaugh, Hannity, Howard Rich, etc. You are their brainless pawn asking for more of the same.
Vic, you missed the last step- “from the Upper Class to the politicians, regardless of party”, since it is a lot easier to get giant garbage bags full of money from one rich dude than a bunch of Ziplock bags half-full of nickels and dimes from a bunch of poor people…
+10
LOL Big T/GT/Grand Tango/ rebellozit strikes again!
aka-Will Folks
We should hack this board and harvest the IP addresses of the sock puppets and publish a tree with the puppet master’s handle… or real name.. at the top.
If only TiG… maybe I can get rabbit to help.
They give charity to rich-people prestige institutions, like the ballet in New York and major museums that are already rolling in dough from “philanthropists” who just want to see their name in the programs when they hob nob with their pals.
Koch Brothers?They gave away a billion dollars to charity last year alone
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Satan pets dog.
So Hillary accepted a campaign contribution… the nerve!
The problem is that Democrats that run for public office often accept money from people or groups that not only hate this country but also seek to destroy its moral and cultural foundations.
The Democrat Party is NOT the Democrat Party my grandfather belonged too.It has become an American hating,generational welfare producing bunch of thugs that has infected our public institutions with corruption and perversion.
I am not a grammar maven and am all for idioms and colloquialisms and such especially on these types of forums where folks should not take themselves so seriously – but couldn’t help but notice that you regularly confuse and misuse “to” and “too” – is that by accident or is that on purpose? If you do it to many times you muddle the point that you are trying too make . . .does that make sense??
Always keep the enemy confused!
No, you have never made ‘sense’. :-)
Please don’t confuse me to much or I won’t know what too do!!!
lol
touche!
Why is it that Rebellozit and Tango can’t fucking write? Lol.
“Why is it that Rebellozit and Tango can’t fucking write? Lol.”
Spittle clouds their vision maybe?
The problem is the republican party is dominated by up of a bunch of self serving corrupt ass holes who pay off politicians to make themselves rich at the expense of average americans, and who get their paid off politicians elected by manipulating a bunch of teanuts who are too dumb to see that they are being manipulated into hurting their country so these jerks can get richer and more powerful. Take off the Fake News, Limbaugh, Beck blinders. Come out of the echo chamber. You are being played.
You appear toooo have a problem with people that have money.Why are dems/socialists always worried about what others in society have yet invoke a ‘right toooo privacy’ when advocating abortion?
Seems tooooo me that how much money I have is a ‘right tooooo privacy’.
No I have a problem when people with money bribe politicians to make themselves more money. You make the assumption everyone who has money agrees with you. But not everyone who has a little money is as gullible as you. We don’t all live in the echo chamber, and we can see when we are being manipulated in to paying to make someone else rich.
Like Obama and his jewish friends on Wall Street?
I just can’t figure out why ANY jew would vote for Obama or a Democrat now that Muslim Obama has turned his back on Israel and sided with the muslim brotherhood (etc…Egypt,Libya,Iraq).
Jewish guilt. It’s like white guilt or rich guilt.
Please proceed with your explanation.
Whites historically oppressed blacks.
l am white, therefore guilty.
Blacks predominantly vote Democrat.
Therefore, in solidarity with blacks I vote Democrat.
Palestinians are perceived as victims of Israel. Israel is a Jewish state. Therefore, Jews share the guilt and support pro Palestinian candidates. That is why the term Palestinian was coined. Arabs or Jordanians were not perceived as victims but as belligerents.
It is called collective guilt. I don’t believe in it. I believe each is guilty for their own actions.
Whites historically oppressed blacks.
l am white, therefore guilty.
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No shit Sherlock – the Father eats the sour grape, and his children’s teeth are set on edge.
Ezekiel 18:20 – …The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
You are right about the consequences … your father’s sins can’t make it through the blood of Christ, where you hide… but they can cause you grief… guilt, however.. let’s talk about guilt a little bit – if guilt does not travel through the sins of your fathers, how do you square that with the sin of Adam? Or Moses’ flock wandering 40 years in the desert?
guilt isn’t simply “a feeling” it’s a family responsibility brought about by the concept of honor.
…and arrogance is not one of God’s favorite responses from his children to the grief they’ve caused.
The Catholic Church apologized for their support of Jewish persecution.. Southern Baptists for their support of slavery… while racists recline in smug satisfaction that they did nothing wrong.
euwe max, you and SCBlues are aways pushing me.
Breifly, we are not guilty of Adams sin, but sin entered man’s nature through Adam.
God made covenants with Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and David.
While their examples were instructional, these men failed where one man, Jesus, succeeded.
The apologies are good and should followed up with actions, but it will fail to help the victims without them offering forgiveness.
Which do you believe will bring greater progress? ‘Guilt and entitlement’ or ‘forgiveness and brotherhood’.
euwe max, you and SCBlues are aways pushing me.
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Republican bible thumper… hmmm… blindsided. :) Mark it down to Christian naiveté.
Briefly, we are not guilty of Adams sin, but sin entered man’s nature through Adam.
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If we aren’t guilty, why do we have to atone for it?
The apologies are good and should followed up with actions, but it will fail to help the victims without them offering forgiveness.
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I know that. If someone’s dad burns down my house, it’s more important that I forgive his dad, than for his son to say he’s sorry… and make amends. People focus too much on the harm to the victim, and not enough on the victim’s acceptance of harm… you know, like the death penalty.
Which do you believe will bring greater progress? ‘Guilt and entitlement’ or ‘forgiveness and brotherhood’.
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depends on your definition of “conscience” and “brotherhood.”
I doubt there are many people who vote Democrat for the reasons you think. Most white Democrats _hope_ they would have been anti-slavery and anti-Jim Crow if they’d been around in those days. Maybe they are dreaming and they really wouldn’t have been able to swim against the tide of society. But they certainly don’t think that they are the sort of people who would have committed the sins in the first place. Why should they feel guilty for what racist assholes did and still do?
Maybe they feel a little guilty when they become adults and realize the breaks they were handed as kids because they are white, but that is dealing with present society, now long-ago history.
What do ‘racist assholes’ still do today?Only ones I observe in politics today are the Clyburns’,Cummings’ etc…Holder,Obama etc…
I agree with you on the guilt issue…this country has just had two generations of childen/grandchildren brainwashed by state controlled public schools and universities.
No worries.We will get a majority of them back when they figure out by ages 28-32 that liberalism/socialism/communism does not work and LEGALLY smoking dope and aborting children ain’t a lifestyle plan.
Democrats/liberals – My intentions were good. If the consequences are bad, I am still a good person. My guilt is relieved.
Republican/conservative – The more attractive a solution to a problem is the more people claim to have the problem. The less desirable the solution the fewer people who claim to have it. They are more likely to find their own solution to their problem. Clinton and the Republican Congress actually did this with welfare reform.
Libertarian – It’s not the government’s problem.
Uh-huh. All of those rich “jewish” [sic] people and those “jews” [sic] voting for Obama – please keep posting – sure opening a little window into your mind . . .
Sorry – meant “window into your little mind” . . .LOL
the window would have to be small… at any rate.
Hey dude.I support Israel.Most that live in my gated community are jewish and are friends.Play the race card on me and I will continue toooo expose you as the intellectually bankrupt fraud you are.
I also don’t appreciate you calling jewish people ‘sic’.Jesus was a Jew.
You are the one babbling on about Jewish people in a disparaging way – show your posts toooo your gated community “friends” and see what they think. And I’ll just bet you have a Black friend tooooo, huh?
I am?I did.They laughed.I do. Fuck you!! You gettin way “deep” into me loser.
LOL Read the names you’ve called me and the insults you’ve hurled at me. Go fuck yourself. There isn’t any “deep” to get into with you.
Too funny. Of course you live in a gated community. What a sad little symptom you are of the decline of American democracy.
Sorry ‘Native Ink’.We choose toooo protect ourselves from a nut like you! Don’t be angry.
I know this discussion is taxing your brain, but since you have said you can’t figure out why Jewish people would give money to Obama, obviously they are not bribing him so that they can make money. Unlike the Koch Brothers and Congressional Republicans.
It isn’t that they have it, but how they got it. You can be honest and fair in your dealings, and still be successful. The problem is, too many “businessmen” take the shortcuts and lie/ cheat/ steal from others to make it big. THOSE are the guys who we take issue with. And if you support their actions as being acceptable, then you shouldn’t have a problem with my using other methods to even the playing field. You bought the court…. but I bought a lead pipe.
You so blatently miss the point. Please explain why Hillaryaccepted the money.
Did not miss the point at all. I assume Hillary accepted the money because it was offered. I have never seen a politician turn down a campaign contribution. Did she personally know he had contributed more than he was allowed. I don’t know, but I doubt it. I doubt it because there are plenty of ways to get around contribution limits and still get credit for the contributions.
I assume this person hoped he was buying the ear of a future President. But Hillary is in no position to do anything for him at this point. Unlike Congressmen who take money.
What is the surprise here? Does anyone think that people who contribute thousands of dollars to a politician don’t think they will get something in return. Do you think when Howard Rich gives money to a Republican in Columbia he does not expect a vote in favor of School Choice in exchange. Do you think for one minute he would give money to someone if they did not vote his way. If so, I want you as my customer.
This is why we need to be fighting to get money out of politics, and not into politics like the Supreme Court.
BOTH parties. ALL politicians. I don’t claim either side. Neither party resembles their former selves and BOTH parties are harming this country.
I don’t see a solution to this other than picking up the pieces after the damage is already done and “parties” are no longer in control.
The problem is that Democrats that run for public office often accept money from people or groups that not only hate this country but also seek to destroy its moral and cultural foundations.
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accepting money is a Republican Sacrament – Abramoff notwithstanding.
The problem is that Democrats that run for public office often accept money from people or groups that not only hate this country but also seek to destroy its moral and cultural foundations.
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Of course, by this, you mean the ultra rich… that are buying the votes in this country, and controlling congress in the name of material wealth.. using what should be the engine of American growth to move production overseas, and hide their income from taxation.
The guys the Republicans *always* support. They treated Jamie Dimon like he was a rock star for basically repeating the same behavior that brought our economy to the brink of total collapse.
Reuters reports that HIllary was one of the individuals to whom he was making the illegal contributions.
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/04/17/politics-usa-contributions-idINL2N0N91SR20140417
Well that certainly ought to end her chances of running for POTUS, huh? LOL
This is only a big story in certain small minds . . .
Not that specifically, but her many other shady and possibly illegal activities should and likely would if she had a R by her name.
Radical Socialist Elizabeth Warren has a book coming out (she repeats the same lie about being 1/1,000,000,000 Indian) and will end up as the nominee of the doomed Democrat Party in 2016.
Hillary has apparently had some health issues(stroke?) that will make it impossible for her toooo run.
doomed Democrat Party
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPD2NG5r748
Liawatha? Please let her be the nominee, please. Two words: Michael Dukakis.
Well by all means please get the info on those activities to Darrell Issa and Trey Gowdy as they have NOTHING TO DO but waste taxpayer money on partisan, politically-motivated “hearings” and “investigations” . . .
Because we all know the House OVERSIGHT committee has no legitimate, non-political role in holding hearings.
That’s a wide stance you have there.
Democrat Jim Marzilli:”The sex is sweet, you want it, and you want to go with me.” “Oh baby, you are so beautiful – your butt is perfect.”
On February 13, 2008, the Senate Ethics Committee sent a letter of admonition to Craig, stating that his “improper conduct” reflected “discreditably” on the United States Senate. The Committee held that Craig had indeed committed the actions for which he had pleaded guilty, and that his efforts to withdraw his guilty plea were intended to evade the repercussions of his actions. Noting that Craig had tapped campaign funds to spend $213,000 for legal fees and public relations fees on the case, the Committee argued that this showed his disregard of ethics.Campaign funds may only pay legal bills when they are related to the Senator’s official duties.
The stall (second from right) at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport bathroom in which the incident occurred has gained notoriety
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2007/09/16/159879/tourists-flock-to-minneapolis.html
It is hard to pick which Democratic deviant to talk about, as one is spoiled for choices. Marzilli was attacking women on park benches. Bill Clinton has been accused of raping a woman and sexually assaulting at least one other woman.
Or how about Bob Filner: “19 women had publicly claimed that Filner had sexually harassed them, including a retired admiral,a Marilyn Monroe impersonator who appeared at one of his fundraisers, a 67-year-old great-grandmother who worked for the city, a nurse who said Filner demanded a date in exchange for helping a Marine who had suffered a brain injury and PTSD during service in Iraq, and several female members of the U.S. armed forces who had been raped during their service.”
This list of the top 53 sex scandals has Democrats securing 9 of the top 10 spots, and holding a solid majority overall. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/13/americas-top-53-political_n_91325.html
Republicans hold offices to protect those they victimize…. because they’re *real* Christians.
Oh goody, more lectures on Christianity from noted Biblical scholar Euwe Max. Are you ready to publish your research?
Why? Have you learned to read?
More school yard rhetoric. If I couldn’t read, I certainly wouldn’t be missing anything from your analysis.
There’s a difference between reading and moving your mouth phonetically when you see a word.
Again, wouldn’t miss much in your posts with either approach.
The House OVERSIGHT Committee – with Darrell Issa at the helm and lapdog Trey Gowdy skipping along and dominated by Republicans – is wasting millions and millions of taxpayer money for partisan, political purposes.
What a joke. As the old saying goes Republicans never leave office unless they are caught with a dead girl or a live boy, and even that last one is behind the times.
Hell dems don’t do bad.Kennedy kills a girl and served another 40 years until thank God he died and Barney ‘loli-pop’ Frank served about 50 congressional terms despite his boyfriend running a male prostitution ring out of his basement.
“You know that old children’s tale from the sea. It’s like you’re dreamin’ about Gorgonzola cheese when it’s clearly Brie time, baby.”
Hilarious that you cite a quote from a Dem talking ABOUT HIMSELF to attack Republicans. The party of Boss Tweed and Daley preaching about corruption. What a joke indeed.
“What difference, at this point, does it make?”
Holder’s DOJ always seems to conclude innocence of all democrat circumstances well before any investigation. The IRS, Philidelphia voter fraud, Ben Gazi, fast and furious. So much for law enforcement.
Please provide links to the WorldNetDaily reporting on those investigations – thanks in advance.
Does NIMRATA have these “dot-heads” private number?
Nikki’s people!
Another reason to believe that first generation Indian Americans have no business in American politics: their concept of how politics should work is just a trifle warped.
I will have to disagree with you. They come from a country were that is how politics works to a country where that has become how politics works. Those of us who expect otherwise are behind the curve. There is a new world order and its decidedly 19th century in style. Thanks to the Republican Party. After all isn’t that what they wanted.
So this man spoke the truth we all know. Our democracy is defunct for anyone who doesn’t have thousands or millions of dollars to buy admission into the system. Now what do we do about it? I tend to agree with John McCain (for once). Americans won’t do anything until the campaign finance scandals get so bad we can no longer ignore the stink.
Thank goodness Citizens United and McCutcheon won’t make this kind of stuff exponentially worse, amirite?
No. You are wrong.
Sant Singh Chatwal – a major donor on Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign – pleaded guilty this week to making more than $180,000 in illegal campaign donations to three unnamed candidates by using straw donors. Guilty faces up to 25 years in prison.
Former lobbyist and developer Harvey Whittemore was convicted this week of illegally funneling $138,000 to Sen. Harry Reid’s re-election committee in 2007 using straw donors.
Democrat Super-lobbyist Paul Magliocchetti of Arlington, Va. He was sentenced in 2011 to 27 months in prison for using straw donors to funnel funds to campaigns.
William Danielczyk of Virginia was sentenced to more than two years in prison and fined $50,000 for using straw donors to donate money to Hillary Clinton’s political campaigns in 2006 and 2008
The use of straw donors, the Democrat “A” game to fund candidates illegally, is still illegal.
Citizens says that as long as the groups (PACS now on equal footing with labor unions) were not directly connected to the candidate, their spending would not corrupt that person, so they can spend unlimited amounts to support or oppose candidates.
McCutcheon simply restricts solicitation from candidates or parties for donations while leaving intact the 5200.00 individual cap on any two year cycle for any single candidate. However, individuals can donate (uncapped) money to 501(c) organizations, to other candidates in the same party (capped), party committees (uncapped), PACS (uncapped).
They follow the law…you are a criminal…you democrats are a corrupt gaggle of cretins…
Why do you think liberals should be allowed special privileges…based on party ID…
“Congratulations to Rush Limbaugh, who got married for the fourth time on Saturday. It was so romantic — so romantic. First, the couple wrote their own vows and then they wrote their own prescriptions.” –Jimmy Fallon
Because you attack means you don’t have to follow the law…you’re smarter than that…I hope…
Limbaugh has been attacking addicts and women while he can’t keep that family values ideal in check himself. If there’s a druged out whore, it’s Rush Limbaugh.
From what I understand, Rush repented for his sin, and turned his life around….He no longer uses the pain-killers that he was addicted to after medical use..
That’s what we pray for all sinners…including ourselves…I believe in forgiveness for those who turn from their sin…as God tells me…Don’t you?
You would have thought the IRS would have caught this.
That’s Sikh!
y hillary for president. http://prorev.com/connex.htm
Funny how FITS so quickly tries to indict American Politicians…when this crook is the Clinton’s, and a Devout DEMOCRAT!!!…
Like I said: The D brand is Filth…so Liberal-Tarians, like FITS, know the only way they can keep the corrupt democrats in office, is by sullying ALL leaders…so you’ll put Ds back in, based on the idea, they are all the same…
Candidates are NOT all the same…not one Republican voted for Obamacare…for instance…
There is a BIG difference in parties regarding: freedom to worship; the 2nd Amendment; taxes; treatment of terrorists; The First Amendment; extra privileges for homosexuals; spending; spying; racial equality; immigration; gender respect…and on and on…. Most of the time, the Ds side w/ Stalin or Hitler on the issues…Not Americans…
Notice how the pantsuit hag’s eyes are bugging out in the photo. That is because the turban-headed puppetmaster has his hand up her ass, controlling her every move.
So Hilary is P*WNED by friends of Nikki…