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The Ravenel Bridge: Revisited

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21 comments

Elfego February 20, 2014 at 5:26 pm

Just drill a hole in the bottom of each ship that wont go under it. Install a plug,let enough water go into the ship until it sinks enough to get under the bridge and plug it back up. Obama Democrat solution!

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PrackTcal February 20, 2014 at 5:38 pm

Or just fold down the radio/radar antennae as the “nice” ships used to at several of the Charleston draw/swing bridges… Or, we could do as the “smallest drawbridge in the world” does in Bermuda – have a three-foot “draw” in the middle to accomodate masts, antennae, etc.

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jimlewisowb February 20, 2014 at 5:54 pm

Few years back fella down the road bought a new fifth wheel. He is a fan of taking the scenic route through the backwoods. Came face to face with a railroad overpass with a sign declaring “Low Clearance”

After studying the situation for awhile he decided if the let air out of his tires he could get under the overpass. He did and sure enough the truck and trailer managed to go under and he was on his way

Later on that day he and his wife arrived at their destination. While he was setting up outside she went inside to get supper ready. Just when he thought everything was OK his wife yelled out,” Honey I didn’t know the trailer had a skylight”

Somewhere in the Upstate there is a railroad overpass with a roof top AC hanging on its side

As for the shipping companies they will probably take the OJ Defense when they declare Charleston a no go port – if it don’t fit, we will not ship

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euwe max February 20, 2014 at 6:27 pm

Was it a Republican that approved the plans for this bridge?

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The Colonel February 21, 2014 at 10:46 am

The Governor at the time was none other that James Hovis Hodges (D) 1999-2003. Construction on the bridge began in 2001.

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euwe max February 21, 2014 at 10:47 am

Well, that was one dumbass Democrat!

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The Colonel February 21, 2014 at 10:48 am

Yes, yes he was. Nice guy, politically dumb as dirt.

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vicupstate February 21, 2014 at 11:40 am

At the time no one knew what he future would hold. Would you want to make a decision today that still works for 2027? Besides, any Bridge that started construction in 2001 was in design years before. This isn’t a partisan issue.
That said Hodges didn’t have the best political instincts, I will agree.

The Colonel February 21, 2014 at 12:47 pm

The Panamax max air draught is 58 Meters (190 Feet). That has been the max air draught for years due to the Bridge of the Americas in Balboa Harbor. What we’re really talking about here is New Panamax standards (12,000 TEU) and post Panamax ships (15-18,000 TEU).
Just like the designs for the Ravenel bridge, post Panamax designs have been on the drawing board for years. The New Panamax and Post Panamax ships are causing problems all over the world. In shipping time is money and the more you get on one boat the more you make.
Wilmington could make a fortune if they could get their act together – there ain’t a bridge between the Cape Fear River entrance and the terminal.

Smirks February 20, 2014 at 6:30 pm

So we won’t be the most competitive, but we’re still in the game? Well, that’s not too bad.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein February 20, 2014 at 7:08 pm

“(Charleston) maintains the largest under keel clearance safety margin in the United States – ten percent of the draft,” the source said.

TBG thinks that this “source” could solve the NFL’s problem of extra point kicks being too “routine.”

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Norma Scok February 20, 2014 at 7:53 pm

I’m not sure how the post panamax ships are coming into the Charleston harbor when at mean low tide our fine, skinny (1000′ wide) has an average depth of 45′ in the channels.

The post Panamax ships draw about 60 feet.

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Merchant Seaman February 21, 2014 at 11:17 am

Norma Scok, please note that at 18,340 TEU, the Maersk Triple-E class vessels are the largest in the world. Maximum draft = 48 feet. See, e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maersk_Triple_E_class

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The Colonel February 21, 2014 at 12:48 pm

You still have a three foot difference and no master in his right mind would enter a harbor with less than a 10 foot margin for error – that’s where the 60 foot number come from.

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Pull The Tape February 20, 2014 at 9:24 pm

When it comes to clearance a foot might as well be a mile.

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scotty February 21, 2014 at 11:06 am

It is my understanding the clearance problem is connected to the dredging funds that have been tied up in Congress for years.

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Merchant Seaman February 21, 2014 at 11:15 am

As for the Don Holt Bridge, it appears the North Charleston Container terminal will eventually become an automobile terminal and displace the container ships that call there now, as the air draft of containerships increases. The design of the Pure Car/Truck Carriers (a/k/a “Ro-Ros” for “roll on- roll off cargo”) that carry cars and trucks in and out Charleston have had a fairly constant air draft over the years, and one that fits well beneath the Don Holt Bridge at any tide. Accordingly, the box-like car carriers will likely transition above the Don Holt Bridge, to the North Charleston Terminal in years to come.
On the other hand, the air drafts of post-Panamax containerships are definitely increasing. As such, look to these ships to stay below the Don Holt Bridge in years to come, at which time they will likely call the new container terminal now being built at the south end of the old Navy base, and continue to call the Wando Welch Marine Terminal in Mt. Pleasant.

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jockstender February 21, 2014 at 1:14 pm

An accurate understanding of this important bridge air draft issue requires documents from the SC Dept. of Transportation.

I requested these documents two days ago (Feb. 19th) from Christy A. Hall, SCDOT Acting Secretary of Transportation.

http://www.scdot.org/inside/administration.aspx

I’m still waiting for this information and will post it along with my comments when I receive it.

The last time I spoke with SCDOT, I was told that I must request it pursuant to the FOIA.

Now that doesn’t seem very transparent or forthcoming, does it?

— Jock Stender, Charleston

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Hungryneck February 23, 2014 at 11:32 am

There is a smoking gun somewhere. the original plans for the bridge called for heating coils in the roadbed – were they removed because local mayors held the project hostage until bike lanes were added?

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nitrat February 23, 2014 at 2:52 pm

The only really absurd part of the mega-ship mess is that a few shipbuilders have convinced/conned every country on the planet that they should spend trillions, i.e. waste trillions, modifying their ports and canals to accommodate ships that aren’t needed to get the job of transporting goods done.
Probably the most amazing example of tail wagging the dog and the person walking the dog, ever.

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ELCID February 24, 2014 at 1:50 pm

These larger ships could just use the regular Charleston Harbor docks that are located right in front of the Bridge. They can handle any size ship, as there are no bridges. But, they better tie up strong. Because, in WW2 a Liberty Ship got lose in a storm and knocked down the old Cooper River Bridge killing several motorists.

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