SCDOT Chief: Lawmakers Are Being “Emotional”
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“They are petulant, petty, vindictive and generally every bit as incompetent as St. Onge and his vast bureaucracy.”
As my late Grandfather, a 24 year veteran of the General Assembly, would say: they are “representative” of the state as a whole.
Sometimes, the representative group spawns a “leader” that rises above his or her peer group in the GA and the citizenry. Sadly, SC has had no such luck since Richard Riley and Carroll Campbell. Anxiously, I await the next “leader.”
State funded roads are absolutely NOT a core function of state government. Federal highways I can buy into as a national security line item, but the state should not be administering construction or maintenance. Let the feds do it themselves.
Actually, providing roads is a core function of government. Roads are used by all AND vastly increase everyone’s standard of living.
Now, I agree the interstates should be a federally built and maintained item, but look at what a mess they are. It is really choosing the lesser of two evils.
I disagree. Providing federal roads at the federal level would save billions if the feds did it themselves (theoretically). Right now the feds design it, tell the states how they want it, provide the designs, and give the states the money to build it.
When the states get the design they go to engineering, who proceed to completely redesign the road (at the cost of millions) and submit for bid. At which time the road builders take the bid documents, try to properly design the roads and submit with there bid. etc. etc.
As to state roads, I don’t think there should be any. Locals want roads, tax the locals and let them build them. They know what they need. If they want freeways, let the state offer up the land for toll roads. User pays. Simple simon EZ PZ.
Have to disagree Frank. We’d all still be living in the original square of Columbia proper if it weren’t for state and local government building roads. Concur that the system is broken but state and local gubamint absolutely must be involved. Allowing disjointed counties to build roads cause you to end up with a disjointed network that serves no one efficiently.
Re read that colonel. I said Local yes. State no. I consider county to be local. Other than that, 1st amendment allows you to be wrong. :-)
Just sayin’
I got ya, I’m making the case that the state has to be involved – can you imagine what would happen without someone providing a general frame work for the county to work in? For instance, Hwy 11 across the upstate or 9 headed east, you know how you have to twist and turn through some of the little towns where no one thought to lay the whole road out before the counties actually started building?
Without state involvement you don’t get I-285 or GA 400 in Atlanta, just 85 and 75. You’ve got to have someone providing the over all framework.
I pray to God that Counties are never tasked with this. Could you imagine counties like Jasper given this task? This place just needs to be napalmed.
The Jasper county road to Myrtle beach would go through Elloree….
If one would cancel all traffic rules and switch off all traffic lights, watching city traffic on TV would be so awfully interesting!
Having worked for the feds in the past, your theoretically is 100% discordant with reality.
Working for them right now, I’d agree…
99%
Tax the locals
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Blasphemy! heretic unbeliever! Stone him!
The end user pays ALL taxes.
you… you… you… pro-taxer!
Just sayin’. No business anywhere pays taxes. The business may front money for the taxes, usually not, in any given year, but a good business man loans the government that money and collects interest on the loan by increasing the prices of his goods the next year. Wouldn’t you?
When prices are fixed by a “free market”- like milk or coffee you don’t change the price to cover your taxes. The oil companies do, because they are bigger than the government, and can’t be taxed. That will never change – libertarian or no. They decide what profit they will make, and they will make that. If it destroys the goose, they’ll back off ten cents.
However, businesses adjust to taxes the same way people do, and it stabilizes. The economy is malleable.
You will definitely not get a break if they are taxed less.
Wrong again brother. Keep reading. Keep trying. Good Luck.
Just say “libertarian” and click your heels three times.
Beware. The mayor of North Charleston, Keith Summey, is now saying we need to raise the state gas tax so he can get his wish list of new roads in his city. Some of the proposed roads make sense, others are only meant to further development in areas in which his son, Elliot, has a stake. The gall of it is that Keith Summey and his proxy voters on the Charleston County Council are the biggest advocates of the I-526 Extension, which will hoover at least $556,000,000 out of the DOT budget. The actual cost will undoubtedly be many millions higher. Opponents have been saying for years that the waste of money on the I-526 Extension will delay or prevent infrastructure improvements that our state actually needs, Thank goodness Mayor Summey has a solution. Just raise our taxes!
No more roads until they fix what we have! D.O.T. says they do not have the money to fix what we have,so how the hell are they building more roads? Where is all the money going? Look around ,its sure not going into road repair. If you talk to anyone at D.O.T. they tell you that gas tax will have to be increased before they have any money. I think that the politicians are hoarding the money to use as an excuse to push up the gas tax! if not where is all the money? When voting time comes around i bet the same crooks are voted right back in office to screw the people again!
Highway money is one reason why Bobby Harrell is in trouble. With him out of the way hundreds of millions of road dollars is available for Leatherman to SCAM to his friends, businesses and crony’s.
And we still have I-73 boosters like Alan Clemmons selling the lies about 29,000 new jobs to the Feds.
“They are petulant, petty, vindictive and generally every bit as incompetent as St. Onge and his vast bureaucracy.”
That’s the money shot right there, nicely done Sic.
“Unlike some libertarians, this website believes the construction and maintenance of a system of roads and bridges are core functions of government.”
Yea, well you’ll come around.
Yeah, he’ll bat his wife on the head with a club and drag her into the catacombs under the bridge with Bez and I, eating rats and cockroaches as god and the founding fathers intended… enlightened at last.
He can use my publishing empire (described elsewhere)
Good one, not cliche’ either.
I’m a tower of humility, head and shoulders above the rest!
” data compiled by the Reason Foundation shows the Palmetto State led the nation in tax money spent per mile of state-maintained roads in both 2008 and 2009. And led the nation in taxpayer disbursements per mile of bridges from 2007-09 – the latest years for which data is available.”
I think I’m going to scream if I see someone post one more time how SC govt needs to raise the gas tax or give the SCDOT more funds.
It’s good to have such complete trust in a Koch group with an agenda.
What makes you think they understand their numbers any better than Mark Sanford and Will Folks understand theirs?
Robert St. Onge is one of Haley’s worse appointments, and that says a lot considering her other appointments. He is a fine military person, but had no experience to justify leading the largest Department in SC State Government: dollar wise. He has been a total disaster, with little or no knowledge of DOT operations, or how to manage such a large work force or budget. He’s just another idiot appointment form the Governor and Idiot in Charge.
What makes people take jobs they know absolutely nothing about?
They must be way more narcissistic than the average politician.
Exactly, plus greedy and over rating their skill set.
If I wanted to take that hill (military wise): St. Onge would be my man.
But, to lead the DOT: NO!
And has a “Chief of Staff” who used to be…a Senate secretary. Good grief. No wonder that place is a mess.
Extra sad facts:
1. St. Onge couldn’t even pay the contractors on time. So, now we have to pay extra to cover their interest, carrying, late payment, and unknown charges. Which they have to add to their bills because they don’t know when, or even if, they are going to get paid.
2. When appointed: he had no knowledge of Clemson’s CU-ICAR Advanced Vehicle Research Campus, or USC’s Fuel Cell Research Program. These are programs that are tops in the nation, bring research dollars, save SC Citizens money, and create jobs. He didn’t even know they existed, or how to work their research into SCDOT projects.
3. Tony Fox, past mayor of Charlotte, was just appointed head of the US DOT. He’s in a position to help research in NC and SC. I seriously doubt whether St. Onge even knows who he is, ever met the guy, or plans on going to DC, or Charlotte, to help get funding for SC projects.
St. Onge is just another reason Haley should be run out of office on a rail.
here’s the basic problem: South Carolina administers the nation’s fourth-largest highway system – a whopping 41,613 miles of state-maintained roadways. That’s absolutely ridiculous for a state that ranks No. 40 nationally in terms of size (and No. 24 in terms of population).
Read more at https://www.fitsnews.com/2014/01/22/scdot-chief-lawmakers-emotional/#WE7Op0LixQkvfQCR.99
here’s the basic problem: South Carolina administers the nation’s fourth-largest highway system – a whopping 41,613 miles of state-maintained roadways. That’s absolutely ridiculous for a state that ranks No. 40 nationally in terms of size (and No. 24 in terms of population).
Read more at https://www.fitsnews.com/2014/01/22/scdot-chief-lawmakers-emotional/#WE7Op0LixQkvfQCR.99
Almost, Thou persuadest me.